Re: Overseas Visitors was Re: Search function
It's allright, Allan, we know all about Freudian slips. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: What they usually have in their suitcases are a bunch of little koala beers that have spring loaded arms that will let them grip pencils, much to the delight of North American children. -Allan Thanks Allan - nice save LCharles Charles, I swear I meant to say 'bears' BEARS. It was not my intention to add fuel to the stereotyping that the Foster's ads have created!! -Allan
Wendell Berry and others
I went to the Orion Society link and read Berry's essay. I think what I have a hard time with this is that yes, he's been writing 'agrarian' for over 25 years. Now his writings have been more (it seems to me) : 'I told you this was going to happen. You didn't listen now I'm tired and we're worse off than before.' I actually enjoyed Barbara Kingsolver's article a bit more. (The she- bear who stole a baby and allowed him to nurse.) It seems to have the bitter mixed with hope.
Re: Wendell Berry and others
Thanks for your input, Martha. It's a profound question: Why would anyone listen to Wendell Berry? What does it matter what he says? Who does he think he is, an so on. I think these thoughts every time I pick something up he has written. Ineveitably, however, he resonates with what I know to be true, with those basic values or truths that I feel come before enculturation. If nothing else, he reminds me of what will happen to all and everything if I give up my grassroots organic movement sensibilities and allow my self to go with the flow. What I find in this particular piece is as strong a delineation of the values of the industrial agriculturist and those of the true agrarian, one who senses that there is more responsibility owed to life than acquiring money and what it can buy. This paragraph Everything that happens on an agrarian farm is determined or conditioned by the understanding that there is only so much land, so much water in the cistern, so much hay in the barn, so much corn in the crib, so much firewood in the shed, so much food in the cellar or freezer, so much strength in the back and arms -- and no more. This is the understanding that induces thrift, family coherence, neighborliness, local economies. Within accepted limits, these become necessities. The agrarian sense of abundance comes from the experienced possibility of frugality and renewal within limits. for me is the most elegant expression of why agrarians cannot farm in tandem with industrialists and why industrialists become so disgusted by agrarians. The difference between working with Nature and taking from Nature. I'd like to hear more thoughts on this. -Allan I went to the Orion Society link and read Berry's essay. I think what I have a hard time with this is that yes, he's been writing 'agrarian' for over 25 years. Now his writings have been more (it seems to me) : 'I told you this was going to happen. You didn't listen now I'm tired and we're worse off than before.'
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard
It was Goethe who said that the problems or weaknesses of an age exist only for the faint-hearted. Today we stand on a threshold. People like Wendell Berry, Steiner, Rodale, Pfeiffer, Albrecht, Balliett have provided humanity with incredible inspiration. To hear a swansong from Berry is sad. It is the media that oppresses the good work that is going on. Yes, the media owned by corporate scum, having their way yet again. There exists a huge movement of people caring for the Earth Mother, putting back more than they take. Somebody please tell Wendell all is as it should be. In the end the people will win. The corporate military industrial complex is dying, almost dead. The Earth will go on in a new paradigm, it will become a star in the cosmos and a model for the cosmic environment. Social-Economic- Cultural economy is waiting in the wings with the kind of ethics that will make Wendells heart swell in his chest. We will go on, the corporate economy is on its death bed...sstorch
Re: Transplanting remedies ?
Hi All Can some one explain the transplanting function of this rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut I'm familiar with rescue remedy, but have no information abut :Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut: Normally Walnut inhibit growth of other plants ?? Thanks Per Garp/NH - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 08:22 AM Subject: Transplanting, my best answers Dear Will, et. al., Yes the planting of trees, bushes, vines, etc. in the same north-south orientation is a key to good transplanting. Lorraine Cahill, who works with me, has also showed me the effectiveness of using homeopathics in the water used to mud the transplants in and give them a good reunion with the earth. She uses both rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut. This seems very successful even with transplanting such annuals as pepper, tomato and basil. We run our beds north-south so we know without thinking what that orientation is. Tiny seedlings no more than a foot tall tend to put their roots out to either side of the tap root, rather like an inverted, flat Christmas tree, so how do I determine from looking at the plant which way to orient the roots so their original orientation is preserved. Actually I haven't paid attention to that yet, so I will start looking more closely at this. Possibly the roots allign north-south to begin with. That would make their original orientation very easy to see and transplanting must proceed apace. Formerly I transplanted my summer crops without concern for this. It is true that some plants did poorly with no clear reason why, and some plants did outstandingly well. Since we don't hype them up on speed and steroids like the chemical growers who often seem to have a near uniform field all going at the same rate, I ought to be able to tell when I hit the nail on the head. I feel sure there is something to this from my experience transplanting trees and shrubs. Also there are nature spirits acting in union with plants. Call some of them elementals if you will. These are Salamanders (fire) and Sylphs (air) in the atmosphere, and Undines (water) and Gnomes (earth) in the soil. Plus there are more complex beings that associate themselves with certain trees or groups of trees, cultivars, crops, fields, special locations, homes and even people such as artists, craftsmen, surgeons, you name it. These seem to generally be beneficial, though that's not necessarily true. But the hidden world of unseen energies is far and away more highly organized and ordered than our science and culture currently acknowledges. We apprehend only a small segment of the spectrum with our five senses, and we have to learn to use our nervous system as the antenna it was designed to be if we are to tune in to these beings and the organization of things which we cannot see with our eyes but can only see with our mind's eye. Dowsing is one route to doing this, of course. It's pretty easy to dowse. To fast, pray and meditate requires a lot more discipline and dedication. And just read a biography of Rasputin. I think you'll see that the rules for attaining adept status are not necessarily what we may be told or may believe. Asceticism isn't key, though the discipline that usually goes along with it is. But what is discipline? Certainly it is not punishment or denial. It is something far more profound. Actually asceticism commonly involves judging others, rejection, pride, etc. all of which are hindrances. In any event to work with unseen forces so that their joyful, exuberant assistance is enlisted in the transplanting of something so important as a tree or a field of peppers or wheat might require paying a lot more attention to what is really going on beyond the visible, in-the-moment phenomena. One might start by dowsing, but some people just do this sort of thing intuitively and subconsciously, so you might keep an eye open for such folks and see if you can tune in to what they are doing. There's no telling what you may find out. Green thumb? If you don't have one, don't despair, you could develop one. As for the astrologically best dates, this is quite complex, though it was a good question that has been avoided in the responses I've read. First you need to consider what kind of a plant a pear is. It is a fruit, of course. Often the trees are grafted, and we chould ask why? To get good fruit there have been centuries of emphasis on the fruiting characteristics of the plant while the roots were neglected. We can do a lot for a fruit tree if we bring together the fruiting and root sides of the tree to a fuller union. The best excample I've seen of doing this was in Mark Fulford's nursery and orchard in Maine, where he sprayed compost tea with some kaolin every two or three weeks. Another effort in this direction was Peter Escher's biodynamic tree paste, which incorporated such
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard + FRESH AND LOCAL
Hi Allan, Part of what I'm doing with the Estancia Valley market is expanding those very items. We have been invited to the Santa Fe Family Farmers co-op, which wholesales members produce at a very comfortable price. We are also setting up a co-op for going after DOD contracts as there is an intiative to displace the big corporate entities and allow the producers to provide fresh produce to their own local schools. Part of what I've planned will include all aspects of farm and value added products for our markets. From seed saving to seed sales (local and internet); baking of all types; jams and jellies; off season fruits,veggies and greens; GH forage for dairies and feed lots;and much more. My goal is to keep this valley rural and turn around the local economy from one falling into the great black abysss to one highlighted in the state as being a rural success model within the sustainable movement. Can I do this? You bet your bippy! Years worth of contacts in the Farmer's Markets, knowledge of groups such as Food to Table that are leading the movement for farmers to get those big contracts from DOD, membership on a panel promoting rural ag business and a strong ability to network. What I do is only limited by my own ability to create an awesome group of opportunities and then follow them up and get them done! So is it possible for Local and Fresh? My answer is a resounding YES!!! Pat
Re: Getting Worried
Title: Re: Getting Worried
Wow, thanks for putting that back up RIGHT IN OUR FACES! Something to hang on the wall!
Hope you and Linda are well in this time of Light!
Love Blessings,
Jane
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Subject: Re: Getting Worried
Allan you wrote:
What I can't help but be concerned about is that I posted a
phenomenal essay by Wendell Berry to this list last night but have
heard not a comment on it..
Jane posted: Sarah Ruth van Gelder interviews Vandana Shiva
Sarah: Let me wrap up with a personal question. Every time Ive heard you speak or met you, youve had so much energy, not only intellectual energy, but personal or spiritual energy. Im just wondering, what keeps you so alive?
Vandana: Well, its always a mystery, because you dont know why you get depleted or recharged. But, this much I know. I do not allow myself to be overcome by hopelessness, no matter how tough the situation. I believe that if you just do your little bit without thinking of the bigness of what you stand against, if you turn to the enlargement of your own capacities, just that in itself creates new potential.
And Ive learned from the Bhagavad Gita and other teachings of our culture to detach myself from the results of what I do, because those are not in my hands. The context is not in your control, but your commitment is yours to make, and you can make the deepest commitment with a total detachment about where it will take you. You want it to lead to a better world, and you shape your actions and take full responsibility for them, but then you have detachment. And that combination of deep passion and deep detachment allows me always to take on the next challenge because I dont cripple myself, I dont tie myself in knots. I function like a free being. I think getting that freedom is a social duty because I think we owe it to each other not to burden each other with prescription and demands. I think what we owe each other is a celebration of life and to replace fear and hopelessness with fearlessness and joy.
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In Love Light
(and thats the truth {] *{() )
Markess
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard + FRESH AND LOCAL
Pat - What's a DOD contract? -Allan
Fwd:(from SANET) call for papers on 'Good Food'
Alternatives JOURNAL ***Please circulate widely*** **Apologies for Cross Postings** Call for Proposals for a Special Issue on Good Food We all know we should eat good food. But good food isn't just what's recommended in the Canada Food Guide - good food isn't just healthy for people, it is healthy for our environment, for non-human species, for our communities and for a just society. From the farm to the truck to the store to the table to the garbage bag, our food choices have significant social, economic and ecological implications. Thousands of Canadians - and millions of people worldwide - are working to bring us all good food. The Fall 2003 issue of Alternatives will be dedicated to sharing the stories of these on the ground efforts and to exploring how different people define good food. For this special issue, Alternatives is seeking feature articles (max. 3000 words, including endnotes) that will be subject to formal refereeing, shorter reports or commentaries (750-1200 words) and sidebar notes and profiles (up to 500 words). Topics of interest: - good practices: Community-shared agriculture, small businesses, food co-operatives, community kitchens, bioregional restaurants, etc. What are some of the most promising on-the-ground practices in the transition to a sustainable food system? Will these initiatives be able to substantially replace conventional agriculture? - organic food production: Is the presence of large agribusiness and food retailers in organics a sign of mainstream success or co-optation? Does scale matter? How does one compare locally grown, conventional food to imported, organic food? Are there advantages to integrated pest management (IPM) over organic agriculture? Will organic food become broadly accessible? What role do labels play in ensuring choice - or greenwashing consumers? - food movements and coalitions: Slow food movement, anti-globalization movement, land reform movements, food security networks, etc. What are the key successes of these food movements? How is food a catalyst for building coalitions among different groups, such as labour, feminists, cultural organizations, etc.? - justice, access and food security: Should food be considered a human right? What is food sovereignty and how does it differ from food security? Why are labour regulations for agriculture different from other industries? How are food and justice issues approached differently in the North and the South (e.g., around access, patenting, genetically modified organisms)? - overcoming barriers: What are the key barriers to developing a sustainable food system in Canada (e.g., subsidies and research funding, monopoly control)? What should be the key strategies or policy recommendations for overcoming these barriers? We would also be interested in short (max. 1000 words) commentaries on some of the key controversies in the field, such as hog farms, food irradiation, GMOs, etc. Alternatives is a quarterly journal dedicated to in-depth analysis of environmental issues and, in particular, to the connections among ecological, social and economic dimensions. It combines the learned rigour of an academic journal with the accessible style and format of a general audience magazine, making a unique hybrid. The journal has been published continuously in Canada since 1971, making it the oldest environmental journal in the country. Prospective authors are encouraged to submit proposals by 10 January 2003. Proposals should include a one-sentence summary of the focus; a brief outline of the topic, essential argument, length and intended approach; and full contact details (phone, address, email). Feature manuscripts must be submitted by 1 March 2003. Report submissions will be accepted until 1 April 2002. A detailed style guide, Alternatives' Guidelines for Contributors, is available from the office or our web site at http://www.alternativesjournal.ca. Proposals and draft manuscripts should be sent in electronic form to Executive Editor Cheryl Lousley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If electronic communication is not possible, mail to: Executive Editor, Alternatives Journal, Faculty of Environmental Studies, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, ON, N2L 3G1. -- Richard P. Haynes Editor-in-chief Agriculture and Human Values Executive Secretary Agriculture, Food, and Human Values Society Department of Philosophy PO Box 118545 University of Florida Gainesville, FL 32611-118545 Phone: 352-392-2084, ex. 316 Fax: 352-392-5577 or 352-379-1382 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/rhaynes/afhvs http://web.phil.ufl.edu/afhvs
FW: [globalnews] Arctic to lose all summer ice by 2100
Title: FW: [globalnews] Arctic to lose all summer ice by 2100 NewScientist.com Arctic to lose all summer ice by 2100 10:02 04 December 02 NewScientist.com news service The Arctic Ocean will be completely devoid of summer ice before the 21st century has ended, a NASA study predicts. The new work shows that the permanent ice cap over the ocean - the cover that survives through the warm summer months - is disappearing far faster than previously thought. Between 1978 and 2000, 1.2 million square kilometres of apparently permanent ice melted away. That is an area five times the size of Britain and represents a loss of nine per cent per decade. At this rate, permanent ice will have disappeared before the end of this century, says NASA ice physicist Josefino Comiso. Trebling up Past satellite studies of ice cover have looked at the average ice cover for individual months during the year. They found an average retreat of around three per cent a decade. But the minimum ice cover, which represents the ice that lasts through the summer, occurs at different times in different regions of the ocean. So to get a clearer estimate of the amount of ice that survives, Comiso reanalysed the data. He measured the minimum extent of sea ice in each region - and that revealed the much higher rate of loss. The trend is continuing. This past summer, we had the least amount of permanent ice cover ever observed, says Comiso. If the permanent ice cover disappears, the entire Arctic ocean climate and ecology would become very different, says Comiso, at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. It will give an extra kick to global warming and polar bears, which live by hunting on the sea ice, will have nowhere to go. Point of no return The ice loss coincides with a summer warming trend of 1.2 C a decade in the air above the ice. The biggest disappearance of ice so far has been over the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas, north of Canada and Alaska. This is also where air temperatures have warmed most. Comiso agrees that some of the ice retreat could be due to short-term fluctuations in climate or ocean currents. But he warns that the rate at which ice disappears is likely to accelerate in future. As the ice disappears, it will speed up the warming of Arctic waters. This is because ice reflects most of the Sun's rays back into space, while the dark-blue oceans absorb much more heat. Warmer water will delay autumn freezing, leading to a thinner ice cover in the winter and spring. In turn this will make the sea ice more vulnerable to melting the next summer. This positive feedback is propelling the Arctic ice to a point of no return beyond which, says Comiso, the melting will be become irreversible. Journal reference: Geophysical Research Letters (DOI: 10.1029/2002GL015650) Fred Pearce - An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. A fight is going on inside me, he said to the boy. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. He continued, The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too. The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, Which wolf will win? The old Cherokee simply replies, The one you feed. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- End of Forwarded Message
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard
Dear Friends, At 06:56 AM 12/8/2002, you wrote: It was Goethe who said that the problems or weaknesses of an age exist only for the faint-hearted. Today we stand on a threshold. People like Wendell Berry, Steiner, Rodale, Pfeiffer, Albrecht, Balliett have provided humanity with incredible inspiration. To hear a swansong from Berry is sad. It is the media that oppresses the good work that is going on. Yes, the media owned by corporate scum, having their way yet again. There exists a huge movement of people caring for the Earth Mother, putting back more than they take. Somebody please tell Wendell all is as it should be. In the end the people will win. The corporate military industrial complex is dying, almost dead. The Earth will go on in a new paradigm, it will become a star in the cosmos and a model for the cosmic environment. Social-Economic- Cultural economy is waiting in the wings with the kind of ethics that will make Wendells heart swell in his chest. We will go on, the corporate economy is on its death bed...sstorch Here is a Seth quote which resonates with much of what has been said on this subject so far: First of all, as a race, in the context of normal usage, you have considered yourselves as apart from the rest of nature and consciousness. Your own survival as a species was your main concern. You considered other species only in the light of their use to you. You did not have any true conception of the great sacredness of all consciousness, nor of your relationship within it. You were losing your grasp of that great truth. In the present circumstances you are carrying that idea forward--of racial survival regardless of the consequences, the idea of changing the environment to suit your own purposes; and this has led you to a disregard of spiritual truths. In physical reality, therefore, you are seeing the results. Now those personalities who are returning are doing so for various reasons. Some of them are drawn to physical life again because of these attitudes. They are those who in the past, in your terms, strove for physical existence without consideration for the rights of other species. They are driven to return because of their own desires. The race must learn the value of the individual man. The race is also learning its dependence upon other species, and beginning to comprehend its part in the whole framework in physical reality. Now: Some individuals are being reborn at this time simply to help you understand. They are forcing the issue, and forcing the crisis, for you still have time to change your ways. You are working on two main problems, but both involve the sacredness of the individual, and the individual's relationship with others and with all physically oriented consciousness. The problem of war will sooner or later teach you that when you kill another man, basically you will end up killing yourself. The over-population problem will teach you that if you do not have a loving concern for the environment in which you dwell, it will no longer sustain you--you will not be worthy of it. You will not be destroying the planet, you see. You will not be destroying the birds or the flowers, or the grain or the animals. You will not be worthy of them, and they will be destroying you. You have set up the problem for yourselves within the framework of your reference. You will not understand your part within the framework of nature until you actually see yourselves in danger of tearing it apart. You will not destroy consciousness. You will not annihilate the consciousness of even one leaf, but in your context, if the problem were not solved, these would fade from your experience. The crisis is a kind of therapy, however. It is a teaching method that you have set up for yourselves because you need it. And you need it now, before your race embarks upon journeys to other physical realities. You must learn your lessons now in your own backyard before you travel to other worlds. So you have brought this upon yourself for that purpose and you will learn. --Jane Roberts - Seth Speaks. SESSION 550, SEPTEMBER 28, 1970 -- With kindest regards, Barry Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2319 Balm Baker City, Oregon 97814 Phone: 541-523-3357 Web Pages: Forest - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/bmnfa/index.htm ORMUS - http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm What you think upon grows. Whatever you allow to occupy your mind you magnify in your life. Whether the subject of your thought be good or bad, the law works and the condition grows. Any subject that you keep out of your mind tends to diminish in your life, because what you do not use atrophies. The more you think of grievances, the more such trials you will continue to receive; the more you think of the good fortune you have had, the more good fortune will come to you. --Emmet Fox
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard
With the Pentagon being the largest source of bureaucratic waste, abuse and corruption in the federal government, having maintained a military tax-fueled budget which has averaged 300 billion dollars a year since 1948 and considering the administration of George W. Bush is requesting $396.1 billion for the military in fiscal year 2003 ($379.3 billion for the Defense Department and $16.8 billion for the nuclear weapons functions of the Department of Energy), this is $45.5 billion above current levels, an increase of 13 percent, also 15 percent above the Cold War average, to fund a force structure that is one-third smaller than it was a decade ago, I am concerned that the aforementioned "death bed" is an insidious crypt frighteningly more undead than dying. In all, the administration plans to spend $2.1 TRILLION on the military over the next five years. The budget plans, if approved by Congress, would lead the nation back into deficit spending in FY'03 - for the first time in four years. With aerospace/defense contractors such as Boeing, Lockheed Martin and General Electric usurping some half a Trillion dollars in sales since the mid-eighties, all of which are among the world's most powerful companies, I am uncertain of this impending mortality. With mega multinational corporations based right here on American soil generating revenues such as Walmart's 219 Billion dollars in 2002 and Philip Morris with 73 Billion dollars as well as Citigroup's 112 Billion dollars and Merck's(pharmacueticals) 47 Billion dollars, I am alarmed that if corporate economy is nearing the pearly gates, US spending citizens are largely unaware, unconcerned and irrefutably aloof to that speculation. Yes, there is a reason for the media's repressive slant on the economic viability of responsible associative economics and the valuable contributions made from our conscientious cottage industry sector as well as grassroots social and political movements-$$$. The profits are alive and well and as long as mainstream media works for their advertisers/patrons such as Ford Motor and General Electric and as long as medical doctors remain hypocritically-oathed pharmaceutical reps and corporate farmers continue the rape and humiliation of our planet by doing the industrial, war-based, economically incestuous government's bidding to produce depleted, demoralized garbage to fill our decaying bodies with (this includes the so-called organic industry which caters to the small percentage of the upper pyramidal populus of this country and further more the world who can actually afford the stuff.) I am not convinced that Microsoft nor Exxon nor Boeing nor AOL/Time Warner nor Pfizer (not to be confused with Pfeiffer) nor the 495 other inappropriately economically endowed machines on Fortune's hall of shame are dutifully lined up to meet and greet St. Peter just yet. Collapse is imminent, however. what we do now will prepare for the fall. If not in this lifetime then the others... Peace be with all, Caine Rose
Re: Wendell Berry and others
Martha, Allan and all, I was lucky enough to get to see Wendell Berry give the talk that you have quoted from. An audience of about 400 was captivated. I see Wendell Berry occasionaly, he is not a personel friend, but since we live in Kentucky, and are active in agricultural and environmental events, we do see him, and are certainly aquainted with him. I have found him to be a beautiful combination of a true country person, mixed with a wise philosopher. His daughter and her family have become one of the leading role models for local, orgainc agriculture in KY, and the county where Wendell is from is also the leading county in our state in regards to developing a local food economy. This tells me that all of his philosophies are much more than just words on paper, he is part of initiatives to develop local meat markets, he is very invloved with the the Sierra Club and is helping them to understand that protecting wild places does not just include natural spaces where people only go to visit, but must also include the space where people are every day; farms, urban natural spaces, etc...His tireless efforts to promote local, and develop this sense of place beyond the written word are extremely visible in KY. He does much more than just write about it. I am sure he is tired, he has seen this coming for so long, and people are so slow to wake up to it! I have found his latest lectures to be very new and contemporary. I just saw him on a panel debating GMO's. The last time I saw him I had the chance to talk to him some about my concerns relating to our KY Organic Certification program and the NOS. In so may words, he said it didn't matter, because it all has to be based on trust. In his talk that afternoon, he went on to speak about the USDA takeover of the word orgainc. Some of the point he shared: (In my own words!!) *Organic as a word is no longer useable- it has now been co-opted by the government. Once a word becomes legally defined, we know longer have to think about what it means, it ceases to be alive. *There is still hope for the word 'sustainable'-but 'through careful conversation', we have to 'continually re-define' what these words mean. Because the meanings change, farms are living things. *He then went on to present a definition of sustainability (he did not call it as such) Nothing is Wasted Diversity Perenniality- (People making long term commitments to the land, and also agriclutural perenniality, such as grassed based management that physically preserves land.) Lastly, another profoundly simple point he has made on more than one occasion, as a short but concise argument against the industrialization of agriculture- 'You have to farm to the farm'.This means that each farm is unique, and that we can't apply a cookie cutter ago-corporate-paradigm across the board. Allan, the quote you gave below is the economy that dictates most of what we do on the farm here. Christy
FRESH AND LOCAL
So is it possible for "Local and Fresh"? My answer is a resounding YES!!!Pat Pat, Your enthusiasm is GREAT!!! This what we're working on here... I also have a word file with the project description, goals and activities. Let me know if you'd like to read it. I'd appreciate anything you have to share Pat. This was written for Simply Living magazine. Perry The Greater Columbus Foodshed Project By Noreen Warnock (With assistance from Laura Ann Bergman and Shannon Kishel) A 58-year- old farmer contemplates, "Who will be the next person to farm these fields? How will they deal with increasing land prices and other expenses to keep the farm in business?" Not thirty miles away, in Columbus, a single mother with two children, sits at the kitchen table and wonders, "How can I stretch my paycheck even further to buy food? How can I keep my 15-year-old daughter off the streets and gainfully employed?" Low-income rural and urban households, though living in "separate worlds," face similar challenges. Youth, often considered a communitys greatest wealth, are exported. Many members of low-income families in Columbus and of farm communities near Columbus are among the working poor, are generally underserved, and are suffering from insufficient opportunities to get ahead. The 58-year-old farmer and the single mother have another poignant link -- the food they eat. It is a common bond that can be built upon to create opportunities for individuals and to help build sustainable communities. In order to help forge these opportunities and common bonds, a coalition of Ohio Citizen Action, Innovative Farmers of Ohio, Stratford Ecological Center, Ohio Ecological Food and Farm Association, and Denison University, in partnership with Head Start, Perry Clutts of Pleasantview Farm, Franklin Park Conservatory, and Ohio State University, recently received a USDA Community Food Security grant. The $200,000 grant is to be used for the first phase of The Greater Columbus Foodshed* Project. In this phase, the Project will focus on working with farmers and Head Start families. Over the next 2-1/2 years, 27 community gardens will be established with Head Start families. The grant will enable the coalition and its partners to develop nutrition materials and cooking classes and outfit a local Food Wagon to provide educational programs and locally grown food for inner city neighborhoods. The Food Wagon will also transport urban youth to local farms. Designing and implementing a Beginning Farmer Program that teaches interested inner city youth about urban and rural farming opportunities is another part of the project. The coalition will be establishing a local Foodshed Council for the greater Columbus region. The work to be covered in this grant is one piece in a complex and beautiful "foodshed quilt." Other pieces will include such things as a Buy Local Foods Campaign that could be implemented at Ohio State University, local public schools, and other institutions; school garden projects; establishing an incubator kitchen for developing products from local foods; a local foods festival; and workshops on entrepreneurial opportunities related to a healthy and vibrant local foods system. Securing a local food system for Central Ohio is a complex task, but the USDA grant gives the Greater Columbus Foodshed the ability to start in a meaningful and significant way. The term "foodshed," borrowed from the concept of a watershed, was coined as early as 1929 to describe the flow of food from the area where it is grown into the place where it is consumed. Recently, the term has been revived as a way of looking at and thinking about local, sustainable food systems. (Wisconsin Foodshed Research Project). HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED The Foodshed Council will provide a meeting place where representatives of the community can come together to survey the assets of our food system. The assets we will be looking at include everything related to food production, distribution, consumption, and waste management. The Council will then develop local programs and policies that build on these assets. A diverse membership will be required to make the Council a success. Representatives from urban and rural communities such as organic and conventional farmers, local elected officials, economic development experts, corporate leaders, community garden coordinators, nutritionists, parents, etc. will be sought to join the Foodshed Council. If you are interested in joining the Council or in working on any other project covered by the USDA grant, please call Noreen Warnock, Environmental Campaigns Director, Ohio Citizen Action, at 614-447-2868. Noreen Warnock is the Environmental Campaigns Director for Ohio Citizen Action. Laura Ann Bergman is the Director of Innovative Farmers of Ohio. Shannon Kishel was on the staff of Stratford Ecological Center when she contributed to the development of the
Disney cruise please
Dear Allan I shuddered when reading about small pox immunisation being brought back in. Having been part of the mandatory immunisation in Canada in the 60's I still remember vividly how ill I became after the small pox jab. My mother vowed never to immunise any of her children after I spent 9 months in bed with a shoulder the size of a football, which could not be touched as the pain was excruciating. To this very day I still feel the vibrations of that time inside of me. It is something I have had difficulty in explaining to practitioners, but relate a specific tingling inside, to the time I was ill from the small pox jab. The bright side of this one incident has me a consciencious objector to immunisation, and my children will never have to go through such babaric methods in the name of healing. I am totally against live viruses and animal syrums for human immunisation. Also believe that ingestion should be through the mouth rather than straight into the blood stream, allowing the body more time to ready for the incoming invasion. Regaining responsibility for the health of myself and family through herbs, homoeopathics, oils, water, massage and balms has all stemmed from those 9 months in bed, and for this I am thankful. When issues like these arise, I can't help but wonder where healing would be today if the church hadn't taken over??? Seems like many other aspects of our society, it is lacking the feminine balance. Had to have my say on a topic that is close at heart. LL Liz
Re: Transplanting remedies ?
Hi All Can some one explain the transplanting function of this rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut I'm familiar with rescue remedy, but have no information abut :Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut: Normally Walnut inhibit growth of other plants ?? Thanks Per Garp/NH Dear Per, You are right on the money that walnut inhibits the growth in almost everything except one or two grasses and black raspberries. That is precisely why it is used. Homeopathy is the treatment of conditions with materials--taken out to dilute potencies--that would otherwise cause the same condition in healthy organisms. Thus to treat cancer, the usual treatment is homeopathic Iscador (mistletoe) which amounts to a cancerous growth when it occurs naturally on oak trees. In this case to get the transplants over their shock, use rescue remedy; to send them off into growth give them walnut, a Bach Flower Remedy. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: FW: [globalnews] Arctic to lose all summer ice by 2100
Dear Jane, The trouble with a study like this is it fails to take into account the acceleration of change. At the present rate of acceleration the arctic could be completely unfrozen by 2020. Moreover, the ice ON Antarctica, not just the ice already in the water, could have melted in significant amounts, and who knows if that would accelerate the process even more? I wouldn't invest in sea front property if I were you. Actually I welcome the changes as it will be a massive wake-up for all to see the bankruptcy of our present economic and political order. Steve Storch seems to think that our present governments are on their way out. I say not without causing much more devastation. They simply have too much momentum to stop even though the handwriting is clearly on the wall for anyone with his eyes open. But once they shatter and deluge the world as we have know it, their time truly will have come. As far as I'm concerned the faster the better. Look at the people who support Bush and you will know why we need this to happen. They voted to get just the right medicine for our situation, and now it will come to pass. Yea, Bush! Isn't he a better friend than you realized? Best, Hugh NewScientist.com Arctic to lose all summer ice by 2100 10:02 04 December 02 NewScientist.com news service The Arctic Ocean will be completely devoid of summer ice before the 21st century has ended, a NASA study predicts. The new work shows that the permanent ice cap over the ocean - the cover that survives through the warm summer months - is disappearing far faster than previously thought. Between 1978 and 2000, 1.2 million square kilometres of apparently permanent ice melted away. That is an area five times the size of Britain and represents a loss of nine per cent per decade. "At this rate, permanent ice will have disappeared before the end of this century," says NASA ice physicist Josefino Comiso. Trebling up Past satellite studies of ice cover have looked at the average ice cover for individual months during the year. They found an average retreat of around three per cent a decade. But the minimum ice cover, which represents the ice that lasts through the summer, occurs at different times in different regions of the ocean. So to get a clearer estimate of the amount of ice that survives, Comiso reanalysed the data. He measured the minimum extent of sea ice in each region - and that revealed the much higher rate of loss. The trend is continuing. This past summer, "we had the least amount of permanent ice cover ever observed," says Comiso. "If the permanent ice cover disappears, the entire Arctic ocean climate and ecology would become very different," says Comiso, at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. It will give an extra kick to global warming and polar bears, which live by hunting on the sea ice, will have nowhere to go. Point of no return The ice loss coincides with a summer warming trend of 1.2 °C a decade in the air above the ice. The biggest disappearance of ice so far has been over the Beaufort and Chukchi Seas, north of Canada and Alaska. This is also where air temperatures have warmed most. Comiso agrees that some of the ice retreat could be due to short-term fluctuations in climate or ocean currents. But he warns that the rate at which ice disappears is likely to accelerate in future. As the ice disappears, it will speed up the warming of Arctic waters. This is because ice reflects most of the Sun's rays back into space, while the dark-blue oceans absorb much more heat. Warmer water will delay autumn freezing, leading to a thinner ice cover in the winter and spring. In turn this will make the sea ice more vulnerable to melting the next summer. This positive feedback is propelling the Arctic ice to a point of no return beyond which, says Comiso, the melting will be become "irreversible". Journal reference: Geophysical Research Letters (DOI: 10.1029/2002GL015650) Fred Pearce - An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replies, "The one you feed." Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . -- End of Forwarded Message Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: FRESH AND LOCAL
This may not sit with some people well Many thanks Perry,Pat You're welcome Pat... I've sent the outline. I am also used to having things I believe in not sit well with those that I work with. And it looks like you have some of the same folksinterested inyour dream. Several things have been mentioned in recent posts that I think pertain to projects such as these. Markess re-sent part of the Vandana Shiva interview that spoke of detachment. I can relate to this... Burn-out is easy when you become too close toa project or when others do not see what you can see clearly. Hugh L. just mentioned to Merla about Jimmy Carter's style of "appreciate his good points and simply acknowledge his short comings". These are great things to think about when working with agencies and people that you have partnered with. There are lots of great ideas and projects being developed, but I feel that one of the biggest hurdles will be changing the philosophy of how and why people make the food buying choices they do. Today, trends are more important than conviction. While the Head Start garden initiatives will not directly help established local growers directly, Allan, they will indirectly help as these gardens are successful and are publicized... hopefully other stakeholderswithin the foodshed will want to buy locally and receive the same fresh locally produced food. And yep!! this could very well be a fad too!!! We do not have all the answers... but hopefully we can learn and be able to help otherssee that there are better ways of growing food than the conventional system! Change will likely be slow unless something or someone helps it along as Hugh just mentioned... Perry
Re: Transplanting remedies ?
Hi Hugh Opposite cures ? Interesting, what dilution of remedy's are you suggesting, and can you recommend a more economic source than the city organic food place. How do you apply this solution ? Rescue remedy is English do any one make it the USA ? Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut who ?? Is it know what grasses walnut remedy promotes ? Do's walnut remedy inhibit growth of grapes ?? Why would you select a homeopathic remedy's rater than a BD prep 501/or ?? in addition to BD prep ?? (I have not yet understood all BD preps and function of them, I'm a slow reader) Thanks Per Garp/NH - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 02:50 PM Subject: Re: Transplanting remedies ? Hi All Can some one explain the transplanting function of this rescue remedy and the Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut I'm familiar with rescue remedy, but have no information abut :Bach Flower Remedy, Walnut: Normally Walnut inhibit growth of other plants ?? Thanks Per Garp/NH Dear Per, You are right on the money that walnut inhibits the growth in almost everything except one or two grasses and black raspberries. That is precisely why it is used. Homeopathy is the treatment of conditions with materials--taken out to dilute potencies--that would otherwise cause the same condition in healthy organisms. Thus to treat cancer, the usual treatment is homeopathic Iscador (mistletoe) which amounts to a cancerous growth when it occurs naturally on oak trees. In this case to get the transplants over their shock, use rescue remedy; to send them off into growth give them walnut, a Bach Flower Remedy. Best, Hugh Lovel Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard + FRESH AND LOCAL
Hi, Depart of Defense is DOD. They handle the food supplied to public schools as well as bombing other countries. Pat Pat - What's a DOD contract? -Allan Are you serious? When did this happen? I thought it was USDA or some education department that handled school lunches. (Where have I been?) -ALlan
Re: Disney cruise please
Also nterested in what people have heard about the Disney cruises that have resulted in much illness. Right after 9/11 i heard that the Bush family was heavily invested in the small pox vaccine. I don't doubt this is true. Again, can anyone tell me more? -Allan
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard + FRESH AND LOCAL
Hi Allan, Alas, tis true. I don't know when this took place, but that's how it is now. I know from what my boys tell me how bad the school food tastes, smells and appears that something had to be done and now I'm doing it. I'll fight tooth and nail to make it happen for the farmer's of this area and at the same time improving my(and everybody elses here) children's diet by eating good healthy local food. Pat Hi, Depart of Defense is DOD. They handle the food supplied to public schools as well as bombing other countries. Pat Pat - What's a DOD contract? -Allan Are you serious? When did this happen? I thought it was USDA or some education department that handled school lunches. (Where have I been?) -ALlan
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard + FRESH AND LOCAL
G'day: In Washington state we have:: "From the Heart of Washington - support your local growers, buy Washington products." http://www.heartofwashington.com/pressroom/farmkt.html contact: Pam Perry Parsons Public Relations 206-789-5668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Penelope Hugh Lovel wrote: Fresh and Local! Anyone have a FRESH AND LOCAL initiative in their area? (LOCAL HERO is a similar program.) Dear Allan, This we have in Georgia. Contact Gary Brown of Georgia Grown, 770 786 1933 or cell 404 213 8470 Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org .
WENDELL BERRY: The Failure of War
from RESURGENCE #215 http://resurgence.gn.apc.org/home.htm THE FAILURE of WAR by Wendell Berry IF YOU KNOW even as little history as I do, it is hard not to doubt the efficacy of modern war as a solution to any problem except that of retribution - the 'justice' of exchanging one damage for another. Apologists for war will insist that war answers the problem of national self-defence. But the doubter, in reply, will ask what extent the cost even of a successful war of national defence - in life, money, material, foods, health, and (inevitably) freedom - may amount to a national defeat. National defence through war always involves some degree of national defeat. This is a paradox: militarisation in defence of freedom reduces the freedom of the defenders. There is a fundamental inconsistency between war and freedom. In a modern war, fought with modern weapons and on the modern scale, neither side can limit to 'the enemy' the damage that it does. These wars damage the world. We know enough by now to know that you cannot damage a part of the world without damaging all of it. Modern war has not only made it impossible to kill 'combatants' without killing 'noncombatants': it has made it impossible to damage your enemy without damaging yourself. That many have considered the increasing unacceptability of modern warfare is shown by the language of the propaganda surrounding it. Modern wars have characteristically been fought to end war; they have been fought in the name of peace. Our most terrible weapons have been made, ostensibly, to preserve and assure the peace of the world. All we want is peace, we say as we increase relentlessly our capacity to make war. Yet at the end of a century in which we have fought two wars to end war and several more to prevent war and preserve peace, and in which scientific and technological progress have made war ever more terrible and less controllable, we still, by policy, give no consideration to non-violent means of national defence. We do indeed make much of diplomacy and diplomatic relations, but by diplomacy we mean invariably ultimatums for peace backed by the threat of war. It is always understood that we stand ready to kill those with whom we are 'peacefully negotiating'. OUR CENTURY OF war, militarism and political terror has produced great - and successful - advocates of true peace, among whom Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr., are the paramount examples. The considerable success that they achieved testifies to the presence, in the midst of violence, of an authentic and powerful desire for peace and, more important, of the proven will to make the necessary sacrifices. But so far as our government is concerned, these men and their great and authenticating accomplishments might as well never have existed. To achieve peace by peaceable means is not yet our goal. We cling to the hopeless paradox of making peace by making war. Which is to say that we cling in our public life to a brutal hypocrisy. In our century of almost universal violence of humans against fellow humans, and against our natural and cultural commonwealth, hypocrisy has been inescapable because our opposition to violence has been selective or merely fashionable. Some of us who approve of our monstrous military budget and our peacekeeping wars nonetheless deplore 'domestic violence' and think that our society can be pacified by 'gun control'. Some of us are against capital punishment but for abortion. Some of us are against abortion but for capital punishment. One does not have to know very much or think very far in order to see the moral absurdity upon which we have erected our sanctioned enterprises of violence. Abortion-as-birth-control is justified as a 'right', which can establish itself only by denying all the rights of another person, which is the most primitive intent of warfare. Capital punishment sinks us all to the same level of primal belligerence, at which an act of violence is avenged by another act of violence. What the justifiers of these acts ignore is the fact - well-established by the history of feuds, let alone the history of war - that violence breeds violence. Acts of violence committed in 'justice' or in affirmation of 'rights' or in defence of 'peace' do not end violence. They prepare and justify its continuation. The most dangerous superstition of the parties of violence is the idea that sanctioned violence can prevent or control unsanctioned violence. But if violence is 'just' in one instance as determined by the state, why might it not also be 'just' in another instance, as determined by an individual? How can a society that justifies capital punishment and warfare prevent its justifications from being extended to assassination and terrorism? If a government perceives that some causes are so important as to justify the killing of children, how can it hope to prevent the contagion of its logic spreading to its citizens - or to its citizens' children? If we give
Allan, you old sneak!
Allan, when did you join Homesteader's Work group? There are some people asking about biodynamic gardening and I haven't seen you say anything about it. Anytime you want to post something about BDNOW or about your website, or anything about biodynamic in general, it would be well received on that group too, I think.
fad?
Perry wrote: hopefully other stakeholders within the foodshed will want to buy locally and receive the same fresh locally produced food. And yep!! this could very well be a fad too!!! Good taste good heath is never a fad. (Should be someone's motto.)
Re: fad?
"Good taste good heath is never a fad." This is a great motto...!!! What I should have said is I worry about how long the general population can hold interest in anything!!! Grants are great if they can be used to make a change that will continue to have an impact after the money is gone. Wehave the first big meeting on Tuesday which will bring all the players of the foodshed project together for the first time. This has all be done, up to now, in smaller working groups. Should be interesting to see how well this group can work together and make that lasting change!! Perry
Re: fad? /foodshed project
Perry, please keep us informed after your Tuesday meeting. I'm picking up on your excitement and feel that others are probably energized by it also. Good Luck!
Re: Allan, you old sneak!
Allan, when did you join Homesteader's Work group? Ahh, come on, Martha, you know, wherever two or more are gathered..
Re: fad?
This is a great motto...!!! What I should have said is I worry about how long the general population can hold interest in anything!! It's also interesting to know that herbalist Jim Duke refers to this and the preceding year as 'the great herbal depression.' His point is that less money is flowing towards the true bastions of herbalism than at any time in recent memory. This is because after 50 years of fighting for recognition of the value of herbs as medicine, Duke and other pioneers were over run by cheap, shallow competition. Consulting contracts were cut when companies saw their gross profits strong enough to support hiring 'college trained herbalists,' and so on. The real movement, the founding movement, the sustaining movement, didn't really share this wealth. Herbalgram, the publication that has done more than any other publication in establishing herbs as safe effective medicine is on the verge of bankruptcy. My point: popular acceptance doesn't necessarily bring financial security to essence practitioners.
Re: Allan, you old sneak!
Where's the group? Perry Allan, when did you join Homesteader's Work group?Ahh, come on, Martha, you know, wherever two or more are gathered..
Re: WENDELL BERRY: The Agrarian Standard + FRESH AND LOCAL
And also in Western Washington, there is Puget Sound Fresh program: http://dnr.metrokc.gov/wlr/farms/___Barry Lia \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Seattle WA On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:08:30 -0800 BP Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: G'day:In Washington state we have:: "From the Heart of Washington - support your local growers, buy Washington products."http://www.heartofwashington.com/pressroom/farmkt.htmlcontact:Pam PerryParsons Public Relations206-789-5668[EMAIL PROTECTED]Cheers, PenelopeHugh Lovel wrote: Fresh and Local! Anyone have a FRESH AND LOCAL initiative in their area? (LOCAL HERO is a similar program.) Dear Allan, This we have in Georgia. Contact Gary Brown of Georgia Grown, 770 786 1933 or cell 404 213 8470 Best, Hugh Visit our website at: www.unionag.org .
