Re: Hauschka reprint

2003-01-15 Thread Gil Robertson
Unfortunately, this site is not available from Oz.

Anyone able to help with another address?

Gil

Allan Balliett wrote:

 Great news!
 
 One of my favorite biodynamic books has now been reprinted, Dr.
 Hauschka's The Nature of Substance, and also (one I haven't
 read) Nutrition (same author). Both are available from JPI, or
 http://www.anthroporess.comwww.anthroporess.com
 
 Christy
 

 Thanks, Christy! Important stuff!! -Allan




RE: Hauschka reprint

2003-01-15 Thread zoran
Try https://www.anthropress.com

Zoran

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Gil Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hauschka reprint

Unfortunately, this site is not available from Oz.

Anyone able to help with another address?

Gil

Allan Balliett wrote:

 Great news!
 
 One of my favorite biodynamic books has now been reprinted, Dr.
 Hauschka's The Nature of Substance, and also (one I haven't
 read) Nutrition (same author). Both are available from JPI, or
 http://www.anthroporess.comwww.anthroporess.com
 
 Christy
 

 Thanks, Christy! Important stuff!! -Allan




Re: Greg Willis: Fwd: Fixing Steiner Agriculture #2 The Power OfMyth

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Hi Merla
  There are excellent in depth horn clay articles in the BDNOW
archive - Greg Willis, Hugh Lovel, Glen Atkinson, If you start  2nd June
1999 and go through to mid 2000 you should have all the info you are looking
for.
Cheers
Lloyd Charles


Lloyd - A man asked me the other day if I had a recording of Elaine 
Ingham's presentation at Santa Cruz last year. I had to ask him why 
he would want that because, through experience, what Elaine has to 
say has changed a lot a lot in the past year. How would one feel 
comfortable with ANY of that old information if one knew that the 
science of compost tea was in flux and was that much of what was 
gospel last year is absolute - - or maybe forbidden! - - by this year?

My favorite example of this sort of thing is the New Alchemy 
information. One can read ecstatic reports on the success of their 
composting greenhouses. If one doesn't read ALL the literature out 
there, one would not know that the nitrogen artifacts in their winter 
greens were so high that some european governments would not allow 
their produce to be imported! Subsequent studies found ways of 
avoiding or remediating the nitrogen buildups that come from too much 
nitrogen and too little sunshine. An enthusiastic but careless reader 
could, perhaps, run out and start poisoning more people, convinced 
that they were operting with information from a reliable source.

For me, the same is true of the BD Now! archives. This is an active, 
evolving, experiential group. The body of information we have 
changing daily. Better, with an email, a person has access to many 
active practitioners where one can gather both facts and opinions.

Incidentally, I don't know if this was sorted out, but it was my 
impression that  SS was saying that Courtney was/is working with horn 
clay. I'd like to hear more about this from someone/anyone.

-Allan



Re: Hauschka reprint

2003-01-15 Thread The Korrows
Terrible, I spelled it wrong!! www.anthropress.com

Christy
- Original Message - 
From: zoran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:26 AM
Subject: RE: Hauschka reprint


 Try https://www.anthropress.com
 
 Zoran
 




Maria Thun, Working with Stars, Hauschka reprint, etc

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Working with Stars 2003 is in stock and shipping at JPI. I highly 
recommend using Maria Thun's work with the always fun to use and read 
STELLA NATURA. You want to have a copy Brian Keat's calendar around 
also, because it can help you get things 'just right.'

As usual, be sure to tell JPI that BD Now! sent you.

Thanks

-Allan



FW: [globalnews] How The Economics of SuperSizing Created ObeseAmerica

2003-01-15 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] How The Economics of SuperSizing Created Obese America




Portion Distortion -- You Don't Know the Half of It

By Shannon Brownlee


The Washington Post
December 29, 2002

It was probably inevitable that one day people would start suing McDonald's for making them fat. That day came this summer, when New York lawyer Samuel Hirsch filed several lawsuits against McDonald's, as well as four other fast-food companies, on the grounds that they had failed to adequately disclose the bad health effects of their menus. One of the suits involves a Bronx teenager who tips the scale at 400 pounds and whose mother, in papers filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, said, I always believed McDonald's food was healthy for my son.

Uh-huh. And the tooth fairy really put that dollar under his pillow. But once you've stopped sniggering at our litigious society, remember that it once seemed equally ludicrous that smokers could successfully sue tobacco companies for their addiction to cigarettes. And while nobody is claiming that Big Macs are addictive -- at least not yet -- the restaurant industry and food packagers have clearly helped give many Americans the roly-poly shape they have today. This is not to say that the folks in the food industry want us to be fat. But make no mistake: When they do well economically, we gain weight. It wasn't always thus. Readers of a certain age can remember a time when a trip to McDonald's seemed like a treat and when a small bag of French fries, a plain burger and a 12-ounce Coke seemed like a full meal. Fast food wasn't any healthier back then; we simply ate a lot less of it.

How did today's oversized appetites become the norm? It didn't happen by accident or some inevitable evolutionary process. It was to a large degree the result of consumer manipulation. Fast food's marketing strategies, which make perfect sense from a business perspective, succeed only when they induce a substantial number of us to overeat. To see how this all came about, let's go back to 1983, when John Martin became CEO of the ailing Taco Bell franchise and met a young marketing whiz named Elliott Bloom.

Using so-called smart research, a then-new kind of in-depth consumer survey, Bloom had figured out that fast-food franchises were sustained largely by a core group of heavy users, mostly young, single males, who ate at such restaurants as often as 20 times a month. In fact, 30 percent of Taco Bell's customers accounted for 70 percent of its sales. Through his surveys, Bloom learned what might seem obvious now but wasn't at all clear 20 years ago -- these guys ate at fast-food joints because they had absolutely no interest in cooking for themselves and didn't give a rip about the nutritional quality of the food. They didn't even care much about the taste. All that mattered was that it was fast and cheap. Martin figured Taco Bell could capture a bigger share of these hard-core customers by streamlining the food production and pricing main menu items at 49, 59 and 69 cents -- well below its competitors.

It worked. Taco Bell saw a dramatic increase in patrons, with no drop in revenue per customer. As Martin told Greg Critser, author of Fat Land: How Americans Became the Fattest People in the World, when Taco Bell ran a test of its new pricing in Texas, within seven days of initiating the test, the average check was right back to where it was before -- it was just four instead of three items. In other words, cheap food induced people to eat more. Taco Bell's rising sales figures -- up 14 percent by 1989 and 12 percent more the next year -- forced other fast-food franchises to wake up and smell the burritos. By the late '80s, everybody from Burger King to Wendy's was cutting prices and seeing an increase in customers -- including bargain-seeking Americans who weren't part of that original hard-core group.

If the marketing strategy had stopped there, we might not be the nation of fatties that we are today. But the imperatives of the marketplace are growth and rising profits, and once everybody had slashed prices to the bone, the franchises had to look for a new way to satisfy investors.

And what they found was . . . super-sizing.

Portion sizes had already been creeping upward. As early as 1972, for example, McDonald's introduced its large-size fries (large being a relative term, since at 3.5 ounces the '72 large was smaller than a medium serving today). But McDonald's increased portions only reluctantly, because the company's founder, Ray Kroc, didn't like the image of lowbrow, cheap food. If people wanted more French fries, he would say, they can buy two bags. But price competition had grown so fierce that the only way to keep profits up was to offer bigger and bigger portions. By 1988, McDonald's had introduced a 32-ounce super size soda and super size fries.

The deal with all these enhanced portions is that the customer gets a lot more food for a relatively small increase in price. So 

Re: Northern Star Calendar ?

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Laura - JPI is carrying this calendar. This calendar does not become 
effective until easter, so there is time -Allan


I would like to order a copy, could some please post the URL ?
thanks


   
Laura Sabourin
Feast of Fields Inc
Demeter Certified Vineyard  Farm  http://feast-of-fields.ca
EcoVit Aerobic Compost Tea http://compost-tea.ca
R R # 1
St Catharines, Ontario L2R 6P7





BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Folks -

I haven't noticed a lot of interest in the audio files that are 
posted at www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics

I've agreed to post the rest of the recordings from Sally Fallon's 
2002 Weston A. Price conference, so there's another 7 or so files 
about to go up.

Posting files takes a very long time. One one hour presentation can 
tie my computer up for 3 hours and myself up for almost that long.

Don't get my wrong, I'm excited to make streaming sound available to 
students of biological farming and healthy eating, but I don't want 
to invest any more time and effort into this project if people are 
not able to utilize it.

Case in point: I made a call for other people's tapes and have 
received to replies.

Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll also.



Fw: PANUPS: USDA Sued to Stop GE Grasses

2003-01-15 Thread klebeau
 ===
 P A N U P S
 Pesticide Action Network Updates Service
 ===
 USDA Sued to Stop GE Grasses

 January 15, 2003

 Recently, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) was sued over
its failure to recognize the dangers associated with grasses genetically
engineered to be resistant to herbicides. On January 8, 2003, the
International Center for Technology Assessment (CTA) and the Center for Food
Safety sued USDA arguing that creeping bentgrass and Kentucky bluegrass,
both of which are being engineered to resist Roundup (glyphosate), are
already serious problems in some natural areas and would become super
weeds if herbicide resistance was built in. Monsanto, maker of Roundup, and
Scotts Company, a home garden and pesticide products company, have asked for
USDA approval to commercialize a genetically engineered (GE) variety of
creeping bentgrass popular for golf course greens and commercial and
residential lawns.

 Once released into the environment, the herbicide tolerant grasses could
proliferate at will. Because gasses are wind-pollinated species with pollen
that blows for hundreds of yards, they hybridize easily. Some species' seeds
can remain viable for 10 to 15 years. Turfgrasses are ubiquitous in and near
almost every type of habitat in which the U.S. populace lives, works and
plays, including an estimated 40,000,000 residential lawns and parks, at
least 40,000 athletic facilities, more than 17,000 golf courses, and
countless other landscapes where they have been planted or invaded on their
own.

 CTA's complaint termed the GE grasses a unique, man-made form of
biological pollution with the potential to both out-compete native grasses
and genetically pollute native vegetation. Concerned about the risks of
biotech super weeds, CTA petitioned USDA in July 2002 to list genetically
engineered varieties of these grasses as noxious weeds. Instead, since
last July, the agency has continued to allow open-field testing of the
Roundup resistant grasses on approximately 100 acres in 15 states.

 Turfgrass is the second largest seed market in the United States after
hybrid corn, with annual sales estimated between US$580 million and US$1.2
billion. The U.S. turfgrass seed export market amounts to US$70 million per
year. Scotts Company executives are reported to believe the eventual market
for GE lawn products will reach US$10 billion.

 Prominent organizations including the American Society of Landscape
Architects (more than 14,000 members nationally), the Foundation on Economic
Trends and The Nature Conservancy (the largest holder of private land
preserves in the world) have also submitted comments to USDA urging a
moratorium on release of GE turfgrasses.

 Biotech grasses represent a very real environmental and economic threat
to communities and natural areas throughout the country, said CTA Executive
Director Andrew Kimbrell. Going to court was the only way to ensure that
these 'super weeds are not released into our neighborhoods.

 According to CTA, beyond their impacts as weeds, other potential impacts
of GE herbicide resistant grass include:

 ** increased glyphosate use, misuse, and resultant foreseeable chemical
pollution, damage and injuries; the very purpose of the product being to
allow turfgrass managers and landowners of all types to spray more Roundup
weed killer on a broadcast rather than a spot basis;

 ** increased glyphosate resistance in weeds such that they will be more
harmful in the future; as more and more glyphosate is sprayed the selection
pressure on weeds to develop resistance will increase (see PANUPS, 12/20/02
http://www.panna.org/resources/panups/panup_20021220.dv.html );

 ** economic harm due to genetic contamination of fields of non-GE
turfgrasses intended for conventional markets, and the necessity for the
impacted turfgrass farmers to use more expensive, environmentally damaging,
and even more dangerous herbicides instead of glyphosate to kill GE
infestations; and

 ** economic harm to organic farmers near any GE grass plantings because of
the increased presence of adventitious GE materials in their crops and the
potential for increased herbicide contamination, both of which are rejected
by premium markets for organic products.

 Sources: Press Release, International Center for Technology Assessment 
the Center for food Safety, Lawsuit Filed Against USDA to Halt
Commercialization of Genetically Engineered Lawn Grass, Center for
Technology Assessment's original legal petition is available at:
http://www.icta.org/petit-grass.htm; the legal complaint is available on
line at: http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/.

 Contact: International Center for Technology Assessment, Center for Food
Safety, 660 Pennsylvania Ave., SE, Suite 302, Washington, DC 20003; phone
(202) 547-9359; fax (202) 547-9429; email [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Web site
http://www.icta.org/.

 PANUPS is a weekly email news service 

Distant Dowsing Field Trial

2003-01-15 Thread Roger Pye
Everyone who has applied to take part in this trial has been signed up. 
Also I have two 'applicants' who want to learn more about dowsing 
itself. I hope to get both of these projects off the ground next week so 
I'll be in touch

roger



Re: Greg Willis: Fwd: Fixing Steiner Agriculture #2 The Power OfMyth

2003-01-15 Thread Lloyd Charles

- Original Message -
From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Greg Willis: Fwd: Fixing Steiner Agriculture #2 The Power
OfMyth


 Hi Merla
There are excellent in depth horn clay articles in the
BDNOW
 archive - Greg Willis, Hugh Lovel, Glen Atkinson, If you start  2nd June
 1999 and go through to mid 2000 you should have all the info you are
looking
 for.
 Cheers
 Lloyd Charles

 Lloyd - A man asked me the other day if I had a recording of Elaine
 Ingham's presentation at Santa Cruz last year. I had to ask him why
 he would want that because, through experience, what Elaine has to
 say has changed a lot a lot in the past year.

 How would one feel
 comfortable with ANY of that old information if one knew that the
 science of compost tea was in flux and was that much of what was
 gospel last year is  - - or maybe forbidden! - - by this year?

Allan
 If what you say above is really the case (I dont think so), then we
are running a dangerous game taking any notice of what is said now! I dont
really think Elaine's BASIC message will change that much over time, maybe
fine tuning changes to brewing tactics, and maybe some greater acceptance of
energetics will creep in over time, better application of the technology if
you like, but the basic biology message behind Soilfoodweb is sound - thats
not going to change much?


 My favorite example of this sort of thing is the New Alchemy
 information. One can read ecstatic reports on the success of their
 composting greenhouses.
I bet if we dug deeper into this we would find basic flaws in the biology
and/or chemistry.


 For me, the same is true of the BD Now! archives. This is an active,
 evolving, experiential group. The body of information we have
 changing daily. Better, with an email, a person has access to many
 active practitioners where one can gather both facts and opinions.
 Agreed, but I dont think that changes the value of basic information, such
as how to prepare horn clay or, the Greg willis post explaining how to use
bentonite clay as a soil application in the absence of prepared horn clay, -
maybe I just enjoy dredging through the archive to see what I can find!
 Incidentally, I don't know if this was sorted out, but it was my
 impression that  SS was saying that Courtney was/is working with horn
 clay. I'd like to hear more about this from someone/anyone.

 -Allan






GREG WILLIS: Fwd: Fixing Steiner Agriculture #3

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett

Dear Allan,

In the first two emails, I laid some of the groundwork for fixing
Steiner Agriculture.  In #1, I pointed out that the Anthros and
BDidiots have taken a truly great, revolutionary idea, a world saving
concept and destroyed it.  They've kept it to themselves cloaked in
mysticism, greed and ignorance.  The world has not benefited from
their administration.  Steiner's ideas have not been accepted by
mainstream agriculture.  The same can, sadly, be said about
Anthroposophical medicine.  Both a bust under the current and past
leadership.

I pointed out that in the real world, in the free market of ideas,
anyone who can make Steiner's ideas work will prevail and the rest
will end up in the dust bin of has-beens.

In #2, I made the case, beyond any reasonable doubt, that
biodynamics is swiss cheese.  Full of holes.  These holes make it
unworkable and unsuccessful.  Such lunacy as the agriculture
calendars don't lend any credibility to Steiner's reputation.
Stirring Steiner's remedies by hand is a drag for most people.
There's no hard science supporting what they claim, which, despite
your misgivings, can readably be attained through a local laboratory
(as I do).  Now that we have Glen Atkinson and Peter Bacchus'
homeopathic approach, a resurrection of the work of the Kaliskos,
added to the proper sequencing of the remedies, new and old, we have
the means to achieve even this scientific plateau as we never had
before.  I mentioned how the Kaliskos were denigrated and attacked by
the Anthros and BDidiots to such a point that they gave up their
research, despite the fact that Steiner himself had encourage their
work.

In short, I made the case that, beyond any reasonable doubt,
biodynamics has a well deserved reputation for not just junk
science or pseudo-science, it has a reputation for NO SCIENCE AT ALL!
And, that the blind Anthros and BDidiots are leading the blind
lemmings over the cliff into the ocean of disrespect and unfulfilled
potential.  The result is that untold numbers of people - men, women
and children, as well as animals and plants, all of whom would
benefit remarkably from Steiner agriculture and it's attendant
products, suffer and die needlessly at their hands.  Sins of omission
and sins of commission.  That may come as a surprise to many people.
who never thought it through.  Now would be a good time to do so.

Steiner was asked by farmers to save agriculture.  He gave them what
they asked for.  Then the Anthros and BDidiots squandered it for
their own purposes.  The result, spiritually unenriched food.
Steiner was very clear about the consequences.  He stated flatly
that the chemical food being grown in 1924 would show up as disease,
genetic and mental disorders in three generations.   He said that by
the year 1999, the asylums would be full of lunatics and degenerative
diseases would be pervasive.  He said that if they wanted to stop it,
they'd better get started right away using his remedies.  He said to
spread it all over the world.  They failed.   Miserably.

What do we face today?  All 10 leading causes of death are
degenerative diseases, linked directly to diet.  The world is in
turmoil.  The lunatics have taken over the asylum.  We're facing
World War III.  Korea, Iraq, Iran, China, Libya, Syria, Lebanon,
Sudan, Ukraine, Russia (to a lesser degree) and others have all
fallen into the materialistic trap.  Religions, instead of
individualized expression of Love for God, have deteriorated into
one-ups-manship and terrorism in the name of God.  Just exactly what
Steiner and the Holy Bible predicted.

In Europe, secular humanism has taken over from a Faith/God based
civilization.  Worldwide, some 100,000,000 people were slaughtered in
the 20th Century.  The four cornerstones of the Apocalypse are upon
us.

The center of Anthroposophy and biodynamics are in Dornach,
Switzerland, the center of Europe.  The secular humanists hijacked
the Anthroposophic and biodynamic movements.  They've removed God
from Steiner's ideas and replaced them with their own.  Without
Guidance from The Divine, without the Insight and Love that only our
Beloved Heavenly Father/Divine Mother/Friend can bring to His/Her
children, how can one expect to live a happy, healthy, spiritual
life?  Is it any wonder that the Dornach Anthros and BDidiots backed
registering the trademark in the U.S when they knew, or should have
known, it would destroy biodynamics and Steiner's vision?

Inside Anthroposophy and biodynamics, the forces of evil and
destruction are seen everywhere.  If you don't believe that
statement, I ask you: what have they accomplished other than to
destroy the reputation of Steiner while portraying themselves as the
acolytes and keepers of the secret doctrine?

I ask you and everyone else reading this, what have the Anthros and
BDidiots accomplished that would have changed the course of history
and saved millions of lives and stopped the sufferings of millions of
people, not to forget too many animals 

Re: Greg Willis: Fwd: Fixing Steiner Agriculture #2 The PowerOfMyth

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Allan
 If what you say above is really the case (I dont think so), then we
are running a dangerous game taking any notice of what is said now! I dont
really think Elaine's BASIC message will change that much over time, maybe
fine tuning changes to brewing tactics, and maybe some greater acceptance of
energetics will creep in over time, better application of the technology if
you like, but the basic biology message behind Soilfoodweb is sound - thats
not going to change much?


So, Lloyd - You monitor Elaine's work. I ask you, given changes in 
brewers (as recently as last year pumping water was held on par with 
pumping air as a means of aeration), food for brews have changed 
substantially and there is the e-coli concerns.

Does this mean anything to you? This is not static work. It is not 
only work that is being refined but it is also work in which, 
perhaps, problems have been detected and corrections offered. 
(e-coli) this is an evolving work. How does one know how to evaluate 
a piece of archival data if they are operating in a vacuum. (Reading 
the archive without working with the BD Now! group)

Why avoid the living organization? I really don't understand.



Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Patricia Berg
Wow, Allen!  I've sent people to the site to listen to Percy Schmeiser.
I think you have the makings of a good site if you can get more items.
Even if you can't I hope you leave what you have up.

Patti Berg

Allan Balliett wrote:

 Folks -

 I haven't noticed a lot of interest in the audio files that are
 posted at www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics

 I've agreed to post the rest of the recordings from Sally Fallon's
 2002 Weston A. Price conference, so there's another 7 or so files
 about to go up.

 Posting files takes a very long time. One one hour presentation can
 tie my computer up for 3 hours and myself up for almost that long.

 Don't get my wrong, I'm excited to make streaming sound available to
 students of biological farming and healthy eating, but I don't want
 to invest any more time and effort into this project if people are
 not able to utilize it.

 Case in point: I made a call for other people's tapes and have
 received to replies.

 Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll also.




Notes on the archives

2003-01-15 Thread Steve Diver
Hey, the archives exist.  Use them or don't use them.

Sure, use some discernment as far as what you
come across.   Technology from 2 years ago may be
different today.

Yet, the same can be said printed literature; articles in
magazines and scientific journals.  Yet, if you create
a bibliography and point to these literature citations,
it is considered value-added organization of information.

Why should email postings -- especially the good quality
posts from the thinkers and practitioners present on
BD-Now --be of any lesser value than their printed
counterparts in this Information Age?

I am a big user of Information Technology; i.e.,
all the various web tools and technology.  Archives
are a dynamic tool which help us organize all this
information.  That's my view on the matter.

Here, I'll prove it.

Two ways to use archives:

1. Read about two dozen email lists.  Go to web archives
and read what you want, and don't read the rest.

No sense in analyzing this and insisting that
I take all email directly to my inbox, is there?

2. Create a resource list based on pointers to web archives.

Like this, as one example::

SANET Web Posts on Compost, Humus, Rock Dusts,
Mineralization, Solubilization, Cover Crops, Soil Health
http://ncatark.uark.edu/~steved/SANET-posts.html

Notice that it also contains the thread on electrolyzed water.

Friends, here you can access the complete thread super
fast.  Did you know this thread with Keishi Matsumura
and Hugh Lovel exists in these few web archives only?

The thing that intrigues me about Keishi Matsumura's
post on electrolyzed water is that oxidized water makes
good sense as a fungal and bacterial controlling mechanism.

Many of these pathogens are surface-dwelling organisms on
fruits and vegetables. If you can disrupt their membranes,
throw off their ability to attach to the cuticle layer, or
otherwise 'trip them out' with oxidized water, it apparently
results in an eco-friendly pest management tool for the farmer.

The same thing can easily be done for topical material
in BD-Now, if you catch my drift on the value of the
archives.

Other uses of web archives exist, such as the search
engine methods, but no need to go on and on.

Warm regards,
Steve Diver





Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Steve Diver
Allan -

When you posted the note about htttp://www.ibiblio.org/biodynamics
a short while back, I went and listened to Percy Schmeiser.

He was quite sincere and interesting to listen to.  He struck
a chord in my heart, and the activist spirit got to boiling
about Monsanto police tactics.  Seed is primal.  We
have got to protect farmers' rights to save seeds!!

So I think the compilation of audio materials in a central
location is well worth your effort, and over time the usage
will grow and grow.

In fact, I want to learn more about audio techniques
and blend slides with audio for web-based delivery.

Steve Diver




Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Perry Clutts



Allan,

I've got a tape of Fred Kirschenmann at the IFOAM conf. last summer. Let me 
know if you'd like it.

My connection is slow, so theyare hard to listen to since it keeps 
stopping to reload. I reset the buffering time to a longer time, and that helps, 
butthat just makes it longer when it does stop... Anyone else having 
trouble listening or is it me... Is there a way to save the file? I thought I 
could right click -"Save target as", but it only saves the link and then 
reloads to RealPlayer to open. 

Perry 



Wow, Allen!

I made a call for other people's tapes and have received 
to replies. Let me know, ok? We'll count lurkers in this poll 
also.


Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Lloyd Charles

- Original Message -
From: Perry Clutts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: BD Now! Audio Files


Allan,

My connection is slow, so they are hard to listen to since it keeps stopping
to reload. I reset the buffering time to a longer time, and that helps, but
that just makes it longer when it does stop... Anyone else having trouble
listening or is it me... Is there a way to save the file? I thought I could
right click - Save target as, but it only saves the link and then reloads
to RealPlayer to open.
Perry

 Hi Perry
 I have the same problem - i think my computer is not up to the
job  - i get about one minute play then about four minute reloading the
buffer (whatever that is)
Lloyd Charles




Re: Greg Willis: Fwd: Fixing Steiner Agriculture #2 The PowerOfMyth

2003-01-15 Thread Lloyd Charles


 Allan
I know I'm a stroppy old sod but thats me - one more try OK
  but the basic biology message behind Soilfoodweb is sound - thats
 not going to change much.
- I believe I'll stick with that - Elaine got it right first time

 So, Lloyd - You monitor Elaine's work. I ask you, given changes in
 brewers (as recently as last year pumping water was held on par with
 pumping air as a means of aeration),
most of this info (anti pumping water) came from people selling or intending
to sell brewers - where is the science ? - did any of them do comparison
trials with ONLY the pumping system changed and TEST the numbers of microbes
produced with each method - maybe I missed something but I did'nt see it. (I
have no doubt that brewer technology has improved but there are still some
of us trying to do things with equipment already on hand)
I put this in the same category as the OPINION widely held by BD operators
that a rotary pump is somehow inferior to a diahphram pump for pumping
preps. Nobody ever provided science - such as the G forces involved
internally or accelleration velocities for the various pumps - someone just
decided that one was better than the other - there are to many other
variables involved for this to be a black and white decision.

 food for brews have changed substantially
- mainly because they are trying much harder to get increased fungal numbers
in teas - Elaine talked at length about the type of foods for the different
organisms in her original lectures - people are having a lot of fun
'finding' new food sources - but I'm sure they all conform to that basic
information she gave us in 1999

 Does this mean anything to you? This is not static work. It is not
 only work that is being refined but it is also work in which,
 perhaps, problems have been detected and corrections offered.
 (e-coli) this is an evolving work. How does one know how to evaluate
 a piece of archival data if they are operating in a vacuum. (Reading
 the archive without working with the BD Now! group)
  The archive is a great source of basic information - can we really expect
Atkinson, Willis and Lovel to come back and rehash the detailed discussions
they had about horn clay and the preps - it went on for weeks and would have
taken days of their time to write all that stuff
 Why avoid the living organization? I really don't understand.
I'm living in a vacuum and avoiding the living organisation!!?
and here's me thought I was almost a part of it!!
Lloyd Charles







FW: [globalnews] Experience of vision is mind: This culture iscrazy

2003-01-15 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Experience of vision is mind: This culture is crazy




This beautiful and poignant message was forwarded to me from a dear friend, Dean Janoff, a Buddhist practitioner, graphics designer and videographer who has traveled the world studying with the high lamas.
Curtis
-- 
Life without love is like a tree without blossoms or fruit.

- Kahlil Gibran


Someone just sent this to me and I want to pass it along.

RINPOCHE'S EXPERIENCE OF VISION IS MIND - an edited excerpt from oral
teachings given by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche during the Tenth Annual Summer
Retreat, July 19, 2002

With regard to vision is mind, I'll give this example about one of my
first experiences in America. One of the
culture shocks for me coming to the West was first opening a big
refrigerator. Late one night after just arriving
in the United States, I was with friends
and we were saying to each other, Let's cook something. There was a
huge fridge, the kind you only see in
the United States - and you'll find them even in single small houses! In
most other places in the world there are
refrigerators but none that big.
When they opened the fridge, I saw that there was so much food. Yet, the
person who opened the door said,
Oh, there's no food. We need to go to the grocery store. For a moment,
it was a total shock for me. I thought
maybe I was seeing things incorrectly! How is it possible, I thought,
that we are looking into the same fridge
and somebody is seeing that there is no food, yet I am seeing a fridge
full of food? But, then when we went to
the grocery store I saw that what we bought were just the few extra
things we needed to cook with that were
not there.
Where I grew up in India, though, we made lunch from the leftover
breakfast. And the leftover lunch would then
be our dinner. So it was never an option that if the onion was missing,
we would skip the whole dinner plan
and run out to the store.
So, even if something is missing in the refrigerator, still, you don't
have to run to the grocery store every time.
This is a crazy culture. [laughs] When you continue to live here,
though, you
tend to forget that and not see the different perspectives. But when
you're coming here from other places and
looking freshly from another point of view, it's just amazing.
So, using the fridge as an example, just as you open the fridge, so do
you open up your life. And when you
open your life, what do you see? There is the opportunity to see, Oh,
life is full. We have milk. We have yogurt.
We have this. We have that. You can see it's full, so full! Or, you may
open it and see, The onion is missing;
my life is empty. [laughter] You aren't able to see how full it is
because the absence of the onion is so
powerful.
This is absolutely due to our own vision. Clearly, we have experiences
in our lives of the feeling of abundance
regardless of what we may actually have or not have. It is simply due to
our vision.
One of the greatest experiences of this that I have had, which brought
me almost to tears, was in Dolanji
(India) when a few Tibetans came there from Tibet. The conditions that
we were living in there were very poor,
but the people who came there from Tibet were basically poorer than us.
They didn't have anything. So these
few Tibetans arrived in Dolanji, and one day I went to visit them in
their room where they stayed. They greeted
me, Oh, come in! They were so happy, so happy. As I visited with them
there in their room they said, Okay,
let's fix something! Of course, in that situation, it was the opposite
of when I looked into the fridge in America.
They had nothing. I mean nothing in the sense that they had only one
plate of dried pieces of bread, leftover
bread from maybe a week earlier, and then only boiled water.
When we think about how our vision can create a feeling of abundance,
it's just amazing that someone could
experience it with just this. When they first said, Have something, I
thought there would really be something.
Then, they brought out the dried bread and a glass of water. They had
excitedly offered it, though, and the
amazing thing was their joy. Just so much joy. And this generosity, this
giving of their dried bread and boiled
water. It was a truly amazing experience.
 


Relaxing loosely, letting go ---
original wisdom holds its ground.
In the river of awareness the mud settles down
and the brightness shines!

from - Looking Nakedly, Resting Still by Milarepa









Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
It's my understanding that internal settings in the Real Audio player 
will make it effetive with connections as slow as 48k.

Have you guys set up all those prefs to let the software know how 
slow your connection is? Have you tried doubling the memory allotment 
see how that affects the performance?

And, if the above fails, howabout one or the other of you contacting 
Real Audio to see if we can find a solution.

Myself, when I was doing this stuff on a modem, making those custom 
settings made all the difference.

llan,

My connection is slow, so they are hard to listen to since it keeps stopping
to reload. I reset the buffering time to a longer time, and that helps, but
that just makes it longer when it does stop... Anyone else having trouble
listening or is it me... Is there a way to save the file? I thought I could
right click - Save target as, but it only saves the link and then reloads
to RealPlayer to open.
Perry

 Hi Perry
 I have the same problem - i think my computer is not up to the
job  - i get about one minute play then about four minute reloading the
buffer (whatever that is)
Lloyd Charles





Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Wow, Allen!  I've sent people to the site to listen to Percy Schmeiser.
I think you have the makings of a good site if you can get more items.
Even if you can't I hope you leave what you have up.

Patti Berg


Good to hear of your good work, Patti!

Thanks for passing the word! -Allan




Archives was Re: Greg Willis:

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
I'm living in a vacuum and avoiding the living organisation!!?
and here's me thought I was almost a part of it!!
Lloyd Charles


Sorry, Lloyd. As much respect as I have for you, I don't understand 
your point of view at all. Let me repeat: at all. All I keep thinking 
is A wiseman profits by the mistakes of others and cannot help but 
wonder why you find value in reinventing the wheel.

But never mind.

In response to Steve's points, and perhaps yours:

I'm not looking to remove the archives from use by members. That's 
never been an issue. The archives continue. My issue with the 
archives are that they are used by people who take without returning 
anything. If they came to the list and asked the same questions, they 
would either be referred to the archives because the question is 
often asked or the answer is stagnant, or, hopefully, some 
practitioner on this list would have an answer from their own 
experiences.

In this regard, the archives actually stifle discussion on this list 
and they definitely encourage some people to not bother to join the 
list. Being steeped in AP at the moment, I think it's a crying shame 
to even imagine that there are people working on learning biodynamics 
who think they can learn it without working with a group.

Participation is a function of health.

I find it very discouraging that through our recorded dialogues that 
we are enabling individuals who are avoiding participation and are 
by-passing the sort of exchanges that occur on this list.

When someone like Merla (I hope you don't mind being used as a good 
example) joins the list and asks every question that she needs to 
ask, it stimulates EVERYONE who cares about Merla's circumstance to 
search their own experience for ways to advise her to handle the 
situations in her county. It's a great stimulus.

All I'm 'regretting,' Lloyd and Steve, is setting up a way of short 
changing reciprocation and an effort toward co-evolution while 
enabling those who avoid working in community.

You know, the whole 'bowling alone' thing. Of course want to slide 
with the times. That's luxury cannot befall traditionalists, however.



Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
I've got a tape of Fred Kirschenmann at the IFOAM conf. last summer. 
Let me know if you'd like it.

This w.b. awesome. A copy of your tape is preferred.

Allan Balliett
POB 3047
Shepherdstown, WV 25443




Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
In fact, I want to learn more about audio techniques
and blend slides with audio for web-based delivery.

Steve Diver


YOu mean a recording of a speaker with the accompanying slides?
That's the next step here.

If you mean set up your powerpoint presentations with voiceover, then 
I recommend reconsideration. Everyone wants things to move faster, 
and all that.

Thanks for the feedback.

-Allan



Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Allan Balliett
Steve - It dawns on me that you, of all people, would probably have 
tapes to contribute to this effort. -Allan



Re: BD Now! Audio Files

2003-01-15 Thread Perry Clutts



Allan,

The settings on Real Playergo as low as 28.8... however, I usually 
log on at 24.. sometimes getting to 26.4 if I'm lucky!!!I did see a toggle 
that will allow the whole file to download before playing. I'll give that a try 
tomorrow. That would at leastbe a better way to hear it without 
distraction. I'll write Real and get their suggestions for slow connections 
too.

Perry
internal 
  settings in the Real Audio player will make it effective with connections as 
  slow as 48k.And, if the above fails, howabout one or the other of you 
  contacting Real Audio to see if we can find a 
solution.


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