Organizing the Work on the Weed Project

2003-02-19 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD


 If you are trying to establish wildflowers, then you
 should think twice and then three times about the
 DeWitt Sunbelt Weed Barrier.  As I said, I can
 guarantee that you will have a successful planting.

Hi Merla  I have been using this method of weed control for about 5 years.
It has been especially  effective  on couch and  grasses. I spray 500 and
barrel compost before placing weed mat and sit back and wait for all the
worms to gobble up the decaying green matter.
After  removing the weed mat I cover the ground with sawdust and plant up
using plugs.
I have also used black plastic sheeeting It is cheaper but does not last as
long.

Cheers Tony





Re: towers of power

2003-02-19 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD





  I will put the tower of power on hold for 
  awhile. I have the plans for Hugh's broadcaster and have not had the time to 
  assemble one. Would like sources for plans of other devices, pyramid sounds 
  interesting. All suggestions and info is appreciated.
  Thanks, Dwayne
  Hi Dwayne Try this web site for more info . i 
  went to one of Alanna workshops where we built a paramagnetic tower it was 
  very simple and enjoyablr experience.
  Cheers Tony
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  Australian ALANNA MOORE was a founderof the Dowsers Society of NSW 
  and has 20 years geomancy experience. Her new book "Stone Age Farming" 
  is the results of 8 years research(Website: http://www.geomantica.com/www.geomantica.com).


Re: intelligence?

2003-02-19 Thread Christo van Staden

 Has anyone ever observed guinea fowl that were actually raised by
 parent guinea fowl?  I wonder if they are so apparently dumb because
 they are missing the transference of guinea fowl culture  (as in, how
 dumb would human babies grow up to be if they were raised without
 human adults or access to human culture)/ At least this might be one
 explanation of their apparent idiocy.  How do these birds survive the
 predators in their native Africa? They sure don't last very long on
 our farm in Virginia  (though we do have two who have been around for
 several years while others have come and eventually been eaten by
 various predators.

When I was a child, I hunted these birds a lot (the real wild ones - the
domesticated ones are somewhat different, I believe, plumper, less wild and
wild-tasting - and probably less street smart - or bush wise - too). The
first time you ambush them somewhere, you can shoot a lot before they flee
(if they don't see you, of course). Then it is so easy, it is a matter of
pride to go only for head shots. But after a few times, they wizen up and
you have to devise a new strategy. Of course, they travel in huge flocks in
the wild. Nowadays, they're returning to the cities, and you sometimes hear
them in places. You also often see them grazing along the roads and
highways - never saw a roadkill one, though - they got clever in that
respect. (They love lucerne/alfalfa - always came for a late afternoon snack
in the lucerne fields.) Great tasting, although wild - but you have to ripen
them, else tough as nails.
christo





Re: Violets as Soil Indicators

2003-02-19 Thread flylo
I think Violets will grow anywhere almost. Johnny JumpUps, aren't 
they a type of violet?
Jane, your violets are probably happily marching across your lawn 
as they reseed themselves annually. Can you tell where they 
originally started in at? Would be interesting to detect their line of 
advancement. Would probably let you know which areas of your 
yard has the more desirable elements for them.

 I was weeding a couple of raised beds yesterday when I 
remembered one of them is 'invaded' with Johnnys every Spring. I 
can't remember what the leaf structure is like, strap, serrated? I 
don't think they've popped out of the ground yet, but I wouldn't want 
to yank them along with the henbit.
Speaking of ... (henbit) is that stuff good for anything? I appreciate 
it because it gives up and pulls out so easily. (I almost can't call it 
a weed because of that.) 




Re: Violets as Soil Indicators

2003-02-19 Thread Merla Barberie
I was walking in our garden yesterday.  It was 42ºF outside and sunny.
Two of the fall lettuce beds under row cover were uncovered (of the
snow) and the lettuce was all alive.  We had a mild winter.  I walked
through the snow to the other side of the garden which is much colder,
but the west side of the beds just at the bottom of the mounds was
uncovered and there was a blooming Johnny Jump-Up.  We have Johnny
Jump-ups all over our garden because I don't have the heart to pull them
all out.  I like them.  The pH is ~7 there and I never see them outside
the garden where it is more acidic.

Jane Sherry wrote:

 Hello All,
 I was wondering if anyone could tell me what a preponderance of
 violets within what was once presumably lawn in my back yard? They
 have taken over. I didnít see mention of them in the Pfeiffer ìWeeds 
 What they Tellî. I did see a bit of wild strawberries mixed in so I
 was wondering if the violets indicate an overly acidic soil?

 Please donít advise me to get the soil tested, as I will do that as
 soon as the two feet of snow melts  I can get it to my Ag extension
 agents. Also, I eat the flowers  leaves, make tincture from them
 including the roots, dry the flowers  admire them! Anything yíall do
 with your violet odorata? Thanks for any insights.

 Jane Sherry




Re: intelligence?

2003-02-19 Thread Allan Balliett
I had 13




Re: intelligence?

2003-02-19 Thread Allan Balliett
I had 13


must be hit by the SS virus


Last winter I brought in 150 Guinea chicks for tick control at Blue 
Ridge. I lost 20 to an unknown predator in the brooder. By Early 
August there were only 6 left.

The guineas had a very strange habit of forming in a flock about 20 
ft away from a dog and then sending one out alone to heckle the dog 
up close. My lab, usually good with poultry, killed one of them. And 
then he brought it up to me retriever style, thinking, I'm sure, that 
I'd be pleased.

I enjoyed the racket of the birds. They had a pretty set routine of 
walking the rows each morning, hitting anything that moved. They 
started punching ripe tomatoes, a puncture here, a puncture there, 
ruining a lot of good fruit. We decided they were pecking at moving 
dew drops. Ever been pecked by  guinea? Powerful stuff! Anyway, we 
ran them out of the tomatoes a couple of times and they started 
stayig with the beans and brassicas. The DO NOT eat everything that 
moves, however. But, we did see a fair number of dead harliquins and 
some other usually inedible beetles laying in the garden and decided 
that the guineas had killed them and left them lay.

Last time I saw the guineas ws in November. Still 5 of them. Their 
biggest challenge: the impossibility that anyone at Blue Ridge would 
think to feed them through the winter (although advised to and 100's 
of pounds of feed left there)

-Allan



guineas

2003-02-19 Thread flylo
My old flock of guineas could dodge bullets but not cars. They'd 
play 'chicken' with trucks on the road and I lost them one by one.
I'd inherited that group with a bunch of poultry I bought from an 
elderly lady who was moving in to town. Their racket actually lured 
up several others (guineas, not old ladies) from who knows where.
Those hens would try to nest and set a huge batch of eggs in the 
weedy fence rows. If anything disturbed them, they were off and 
running, never to return so I have no idea how chicks ever hatch in 
the wild.

These 2 new ones are more or less 'chicken trained'. they try to 
roost with the hens and will come to 'chick chick chick'. So when I 
can get them close, I scatter something out they'll like. Two guinea 
hens can make a heck of a racket, i can't imagine how I ever stood 
30+ of them!

By nature, a guinea is somewhere between an always-wild 
pheasant and a pleasantly tame chicken. There are the 
exceptions, those handled a lot from Day 1 can turn into unique 
pets, but they're not common. 

When they peck holes in the tomatoes and peppers and leave 
them, I think they're pecking at the shiny guinea image they see in 
passing. They don't actually eat the fruit but they can ruin it just as 
bad. A guinea's saving grace in the garden is they don't scratch up 
bare dirt (and tender young seedlings) as much as a chicken. 




Re: Violets as Soil Indicators

2003-02-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: Re: Violets as Soil Indicators



Oops, sorry I wasnt more clear. When I moved here, we inherited a lawn and what was long ago an Italian families large flower and vegetable garden which I reclaimed from the weeds and onion grass. That was four summers ago. Now, I have decided to actually try gardening in the sun! The plot I assumed has long been mostly in shade, with some small amount of morning and afternoon sun. Of my several bd farmer  gardener friends who have visited, the consensus is usually, why dont you move it into the sun? So this year, with some extra help, (I am getting Curtis out there!) we are doubling the size of the garden. I love my violets and was secretly happy they were taking over the lawn, which they seemed to do each season! I seriously dislike lawns! I wish the size of lawns were very restricted, especially here in the burbs to reduce sound, air and water pollution among other things. If it were up to me, I would be encouraging fruit trees  shrubs, wild grasses and flowers for the fairies and the fair among us, sprawling vegetable gardens, with huge areas devoted to perennials and wild things. Alas, I am a renter with a very fair minded landlord.

Thanks for your answers,
Jane

From: Peter Michael Bacchus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:46:21 +1300
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Violets as Soil Indicators


Dear Jane,
As it seems that you get enjoyment and good use from your violets why change anything. You are different to your neighbours so why would you want to have the same lawn as them? You must have special elemental beings in your garden. We had one little violet in our lawn too and we all took good care to mow round it until one day my mother decided to rescue it and put it back in the garden. I'm not sure if it survived the rescue. 
Peter.
 








Re: intelligence?

2003-02-19 Thread Tony Nelson-Smith
While we're talking birds and roads (if a little OT) perhaps I can mention 
the behaviour of our peafowl.  We live alongside the road which leads most 
directly from the motorway which runs into South Wales (M4) to the 
beauty-spots of the Gower peninsula most distant from Swansea.  When there 
was a Butlin's Holiday Camp at Barry, one of the excursion-coach routes 
passed us on the way to Rhossili.  Several of the adult peacocks took to 
displaying across the front of our property and, shortly, these excursion 
buses would stop so that the holidaymakers could get a good look (and 
probably photograph them, too).  It got to the point where one cock or 
another would step out into the middle of the road and display across it, 
effectively blocking that lane.  They obviously recognised buses, although 
they'd try to stop service buses, too.  I couldn't figure how to stop them 
but, one day, a peacock-shaped hole appeared in our larch-lap front fence.  
I couldn't find either an injured bird or a corpse, but after that they 
decided to display from the safety of our roof.  Of course, one shouldn't 
seriously apply human values to birds, but I reckon peacocks have what is 
closely related to pride as well as a certain intelligence.

More seriously, everyone seems to think that the cock displays his erect 
back-feathers so that the female can admire the decorative, many-eyed side.  
In our experience, he usually has his back to her (displaying the 
ludicrously fluffy 'underpants');  obviously, the eyed side is meant to 
deter rivals.  They disply similarly when trying to discourage others from 
getting at a tasty bit of food.
   Tony N-S.








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Re: intelligence? (OT)

2003-02-19 Thread flylo
I know this is off topic but I can't resist the tale.
I've had all sorts of birds from everyday chickens to raising the 
exotics (macaws, etc.) I had a trio of peafowl but the hens wouldn't 
set their own eggs. I put some in an incubator and hatched out a 
dozen babies. They followed me like puppies. 
They looked a lot like turkeys with funny little crowns until they 
started getting more adult plumage. They discovered the cat door 
into the house early one morning, we were still asleep. We had an 
old wrought iron bedstead and i was dreaming I'd died and 
beautifully colored buzzards were perched all around me. When I 
woke up, the peachicks were lined up at the foot of the bed, staring 
intently at me, willing me to wake up and feed them. 
I sold them here and there, a man down the road bought several 
but he said those were the meanest birds he had ever owned. 
Maybe he just didn't have a peafowl disposition because they were 
funny, gentle birds around here. 

When the young hens first discover their cry, it WILL raise the hair 
right off the back of your neck!




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FW: [globalnews] Starhawk: The Crisis of Government Legitimacyand What Happened in New York

2003-02-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Starhawk: The Crisis of Government Legitimacy and What Happened in New York




What Happened in New York
By Starhawk

The weekend of February 15 and 16 marks an historic, global uprising for peace. The number of marches is uncounted: the number of marchers estimated in the range of ten million. There were marches and vigils and protests in national capitals and small towns, in the heartlands of middle America and in small Pacific islands, in the freezing cold of Alberta and in the heat of an Australian summer. Palestinians and Israelis marched together in Tel Aviv: in the U.S. everyone from Republicans to socialists to anarcho-punks shared the streets. And most of these hundreds of events took place with, apparently, fairly minimal governmental repression.
New York was an exception.
New York, the largest city in the country that presumably shines as a beacon of global democracy, refused to grant the organizers of the protest a permit for a march. Only a stationary rally was allowed. 
The denial of the march was only one feature in a campaign of harrassment, that included the circulation of a rumor on the day before the rally that the event had been cancelled, a Code Orange terrorist alert that stationed military guards in the subways armed with automatic rifles, the denial of permission to rent portable toilets for the masses expected at the rally, the mysterious rerouting of subways and busses on the morning of the rally, the cut-off of the phones in the United for Peace and Justice office during the rally, and a repressive, heavy-handed and sometimes brutal police presence that penned the official rally behind barricades and prevented thousands from even getting there.
New York has the largest police force in the world: forty thousand strong. When they decide to control public space, they have enormous resources with which to do so, and generally succeed.
But not last Saturday.
On Saturday something like sixty different feeder marches started from various points in the city to march to the rally. Many of them intended to stay within the law by marching on the sidewalkan activity that does not require a permit. 
Some took the streets.
Taking the streets was, technically, an act of civil disobedience, a conscious breaking of a law that is unjust or unfairly applied. In this case, many of us felt that the law preventing us from marching as a unified whole was violating our constitutional rights to freedom of speech and assembly. And that if we did not defend our public and political space at this crucial moment, that space would rapidly be taken away.
The Performing Arts March and the Labor March were able to take the streets and march to the rally without incident. The police simply stood back and let them go.
The students were not so favored. I was with the students contingent that gathered at Union Square around ten in the morning. A march from New York University joined up with us, and together we headed out on Fourteenth Street, on the sidewalk until Sixth Avenue, when we swarmed out into the street.
We marched triumphantly up the avenue, in a fast-paced, exuberant mass that was impossible to slow down, though some of us were trying in order to keep the whole crowd of several thousand together.
Around Twenty-first street, the police met us with a line of cops that stretched across the road. We were ordered to get back on the sidewalk or face arrest. The police were being provocative, pushing and shoving us with their nightsticks, and the students were doing an admirable job of restraining themselves from fighting back. Instead, they turned a corner, swarmed onto a side street, ducked through a parking lot at a dead run and came out onto another street. Some of the march was left behind, but it formed another column to go snake-marching through the side streets.
We met up again on Fifth Avenue, but then got pushed onto Twenty-third Street and trapped by a line of cops in front and back. I saw one young man pushed to the ground with five cops kneeling on him, twisting his arms behind his back to cuff him. 
The street was crowded with masses of students, and the police decided to run a line of horses through in order to split the crowd and push people back onto the sidewalks. The horses, some of which seemed under only very shaky control, trotted through the crowd, and then the cops announced that they were only going to let people out in small groups, about fifty at a time. Our group got splithalf of us were squeezed out and the other half prevented from leaving. The cops forced the groups that left to move on, in order to prevent us massing together again.
Our small contingent marched up to the Main Library, on Forty-second Street, where we met up with some of the lost members of our group, and continued up toward the Rally Zone. The police had barricades on all the streets leading east through the Fifties at Lexington Avenue. People were not being allowed to go through to join 

FW: [globalnews] Irradiated Food Update: New Studies Show DangersGreater than Critics Thought

2003-02-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Irradiated Food Update: New Studies Show Dangers Greater than Critics Thought




RADIATION NATION

Health Sciences Institute e-Alert

February 10, 2003

Dear Reader,

After sending you the e-Alert last week about irradiated beef (Don't Beam
Me Up 2/4/03), I came across a news item announcing that a popular
supermarket chain began selling irradiated ground beef on February 2nd in
six mid-Atlantic states, including Maryland, where I live. These stores are
among some 4,000 nationwide that currently sell irradiated beef.

This alone would be unsettling enough. But in response to that e-Alert, I
received a reply from HSI Panelist Jon Barron with additional information
about the irradiation process that I guarantee will make you think twice
the next time you stop off at your grocery to buy meat products.



Who let the nutrients out?

To briefly recap: Irradiation is a process by which a food product is
exposed to extremely high doses of radiation to kill bacteria, parasites
and funguses that may cause spoilage or disease. And if that were all
irradiation did, that would be fine. But as we'll see, there's much more to
it than that.

Jon begins by describing the process in more detail: Food is exposed to
'hard' irradiation, usually gamma rays from a source like cobalt-80, in
doses of 100,000 to 3,000,000 rads. To give you a sense of how high a dose
this is, understand that a dose of just 10,000 rads will totally destroy
any living tissue.

As HSI Panelist Allan Spreen, M.D., made clear last week, an abundance of
nutrients are also eliminated by this process. Jon agrees, and says, as
much as 70% of the Vitamin A, B1 and B2 in irradiated milk is destroyed,
and about 30% of Vitamin C. Unfortunately, irradiation also accelerates
the growth of aspergillus mold, which produces the most potent natural
carcinogens known to man, called aflatoxins.

I wish I could say that's the worst of it - but we're just getting started.



A radiotoxin by any other name...

Processing food with the extremely high levels of gamma rays described
above results in the creation of some very dangerous molecules, about which
Jon gives this interesting but frightening background: They were
originally called 'radiotoxins' by Russian researchers. Since that word
would be frightening to American consumers, the FDA came up with a couple
of 'softer' terms. They call them 'known radiolytic products' to describe
the molecules that are created such as formaldehyde and benzene (known
carcinogens), and as for those chemical molecules created by irradiation
and that have never before been seen by man, the FDA came up with the
equally soft 'unique radiolytic products.'

Long before the FDA started assigning more palatable terms for these very
unappetizing results, it had already reviewed more than 400 studies about
the irradiation process. But Jon tells us where that review process fell
woefully short: They accepted 226 studies for further review. They then
narrowed their criteria and selected only 69 for in-depth review. Of these,
the FDA itself reported that 32 of the 69 showed adverse effects, and 37
showed safety problems. Then without explanation, they eliminated all but 5
of the 69 (including every negative study) and said they would base their
decision on those 5 alone.

In the FDA's final report approving food radiation, they wrote that when
up to 35% of the lab-animal diet was radiated, feeding studies had to be
terminated because of premature mortality or morbidity. And in one test at
the Medical College of Virginia, rats fed irradiated beef died of
hemorrhagic syndrome in 34 days.



Running from the radura

According to Jon, Foods already approved for irradiation include: fruits,
vegetables, wheat, flour, herbs, spices, nuts, seeds, peas, pork, and
chicken. And to that we can add ground beef - now in a supermarket in my
neighborhood, and very likely in yours as well.

If you don't like the idea of irradiated food (and at this point I can't
imagine how anyone possibly could), you can look for a symbol called the
radura which is required on the packaging of irradiated foods. The radura
is a green circle (broken into four segments at the top of the circle),
enclosing a flower image represented by a large green dot with two petals
below the dot.

But even if you avoid products marked with the radura, you're still not in
the clear. As Jon explains, The FDA requires a label stating a food has
been radiated if, and only if, it was radiated as a 'whole food' and then
is sold unchanged. But, if you process it in any way, if you add any other
ingredients to it, it no longer requires a label stating that it (or any of
its ingredients) were irradiated. To put it simply, an irradiated orange
would require a label; irradiated orange juice would not.



An uncomfortable level of comfort

But even if people see the radura on a package of ground beef, a bag of
Brazil nuts, or a sticker on an apple - do they know what 

Re: Violets as Soil Indicators

2003-02-19 Thread Frank L Teuton
Title: Violets as Soil Indicators



Hi Jane, 

I've seen violets mostly in heavy clay soils (DC suburbs, 
Baltimore, and now here in Montreal. Typically rich in organic matter. Likes 
shade but will take sun if the soil is moist. pH generally neutral to 
alkaline.

Lots of fun and always a pleasure for me to see a violet, 
although some folks agree that they are weeds in lawns, I don't see it that 
way...strawberries don't necessarily mean acidity either, but lots of organic 
matter (which buffers pH 'de tout facon', or as the Quebecois say, 
'anyway';-)and that means some balance between fungi and bacteria, 
driven the way the plant likes it

It's a 'woodland plant'

My two cents, 

Frank Teuton--who has eaten violets more than a few 
times

  Hello All,I 
  was wondering if anyone could tell me what a preponderance of violets within 
  what was once presumably lawn in my back yard? They have taken over. I didn’t 
  see mention of them in the Pfeiffer “Weeds  What they Tell”. I did see a 
  bit of wild strawberries mixed in so I was wondering if the violets indicate 
  an overly acidic soil? 


Re: FW: [globalnews] Starhawk: The Crisis of Government Legitimacy and What Happened in New York

2003-02-19 Thread flylo
This reads a lot like one of Starhawk's early (fiction) books. A 
shame that in this case, truth follows fiction.




Re: Organizing the Work on the Weed Project

2003-02-19 Thread Steve Diver
Tony -

Nice integration of BD preps with a mulching technique
to achieve vegetation control, worm action, soil biology
and a clean bed to transplant into.   also getting the
muck and magic benefits of the BD preps all at the
same time.

Steve Diver


Rambler Flowers LTD wrote:

  If you are trying to establish wildflowers, then you
  should think twice and then three times about the
  DeWitt Sunbelt Weed Barrier.  As I said, I can
  guarantee that you will have a successful planting.

 Hi Merla  I have been using this method of weed control for about 5 years.
 It has been especially  effective  on couch and  grasses. I spray 500 and
 barrel compost before placing weed mat and sit back and wait for all the
 worms to gobble up the decaying green matter.
 After  removing the weed mat I cover the ground with sawdust and plant up
 using plugs.
 I have also used black plastic sheeeting It is cheaper but does not last as
 long.

 Cheers Tony




Re: Violets as Soil Indicators

2003-02-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: Re: Violets as Soil Indicators



Hmm, as usual, you give much food for thought, Frank. The main reason I am asking, is because one of my main advisors, has recommended letting it lay fallow with a cover crop this coming summer. But impatient person that I can be, I am tempted to follow that advice for only half the area (the whole plot is 1000 sq. ft) and amend the whole thing with bd compost, town compost and more preps. The area has received preps now for four springs, summers  falls  the Erbe Three Kings for two winters, plus one of the trees is set up to act as a broadcaster, a la Steve Storch, with many meditations furthering things along. I was wanting to put new medicinal herbs in the ground this season, but was concerned that the violets indicate poor soil. From what you wrote, it sounds like just the opposite. This neighborhood is also a heavily wooded area in general, the garden site is also downhill so it does receive plenty of moisture even in drought years, which certainly wont be a problem after this winter.

Good to eat your violets, Frank, and to hear from you. Soon it will be spring and one can never eat too many of those early spring greens  purples! (well, actually, you could eat too many violets, but it would probably only be a deep purge).

Jane

PS: Did I ever mention those great landlords of ours in the catskills, who made wine from lots of different flowers? We had a glorious wine tasting with them one winter eve, sipping on elder wine  elder port, dandelion wine and the treasures --rose petal wine  violet wine...but just a thimble full!



From: Frank L Teuton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:47:33 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Violets as Soil Indicators


Hi Jane, 
 
I've seen violets mostly in heavy clay soils (DC suburbs, Baltimore, and now here in Montreal. Typically rich in organic matter. Likes shade but will take sun if the soil is moist. pH generally neutral to alkaline.
 
Lots of fun and always a pleasure for me to see a violet, although some folks agree that they are weeds in lawns, I don't see it that way...strawberries don't necessarily mean acidity either, but lots of organic matter (which buffers pH 'de tout facon', or as the Quebecois say, 'anyway';-)and that means some balance between fungi and bacteria, driven the way the plant likes it
 
It's a 'woodland plant'
 
My two cents, 
 
Frank Teuton--who has eaten violets more than a few times
 






FW: [globalnews] Texas Bill Would Outlaw Animal Rights Activists,Journalists, Whistleblowers, Donors -- All Terrorists

2003-02-19 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Texas Bill Would Outlaw Animal Rights Activists, Journalists, Whistleblowers, Donors -- All Terrorists



Here we go...

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:34:58 -0800
Subject: HSUS Asks Texas House To Reject Legislation Criminalizing
Animal Advocacy Efforts
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THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES ASKS TEXAS HOUSE TO REJECT
LEGISLATION CRIMINALIZING ANIMAL ADVOCACY EFFORTS

DALLAS (February 19, 2003) - The Humane Society of the United States
(HSUS), the nations largest animal protection organization with more than
320,000 members and constituents in Texas, is asking the Texas House to
reject H.B. 433, the so-called Animal Rights and Ecological Terrorism
Act, which exploits the climate of concern about terrorism in order to
stifle and criminalize legitimate debate, investigation and discussion
about animal welfare and environment issues.

The American Civil Liberties Union, the Texas Sierra Club, the American
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and the Texas Humane
Legislative Network also oppose the legislation.

If passed in its current form H.B. 433 would add a new class of crimes to
the Texas Criminal Code. Some of the provisions would:

 Criminalize legitimate political and social protests, demonstrations,
civil disobedience and debate by animal or environmental advocates.
 Subject any Texan to criminal liability if he or she donates
money to an
organization that has engaged in non-violent civil disobedience; this
criminal liability would apply only to donors of animal or environmental
groups, not groups working on peace, pro-life or other causes.
 Create a state run website at which certain people advocating
for animal
welfare and environmental protection would be identified, photographed and
stigmatized as terrorists -- much like they now do with sex offenders
and child molesters.
 Bar a journalist from legally entering an animal facility to take
photographs or make a video recording with the intent to defame the
facility or the facility's owner.

H.B. 433 is an embarrassment to every Texan who values the fundamental
freedoms of speech and assembly, stated Lou Guyton, director of The HSUS
Southwest Regional Office located in Dallas.

H.B. 433 is so wide-sweeping in its application it would make terrorists
out of whistle blowers, investigative reporters, and other individuals
seeking to bring animal and environmental exploitation to the publics
attention, said Wayne Pacelle, a senior vice president at The HSUS
national headquarters in Washington. The Humane Society of the United
States has always condemned violence, the destruction of property, and
other types of illegal conduct, and all of these activities constitute
criminal conduct under current law, and rightly so.

The U.S. Sportsmens Alliance, a Columbus, Ohio-based organization backed
by the Archery Manufacturers Association, Cabelas, and other hunting
industry corporations, drafted the model bill in an effort to launch
nationwide legislative campaigns in an attempt to attack legitimate animal
protection organizations.

H.B. 433 masquerades as an anti-terrorist bill, but what it seeks to do
is to limit the right of individuals and organizations to take photographs
and engage in other legitimate conduct if it is critical of animal-use
industries, concluded Pacelle.

The HSUS has seven million members and constituents. With active programs
in companion animals, wildlife, animals in research and farm animals and
sustainable agriculture, The HSUS works to protect all animals through
legislation, litigation, investigation, education, advocacy and field
work. For more information, visit The HSUS Web site  www.hsus.org.


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