Suma Rock Powder
Steve (everyone!) What are you paying for your Suma product? Do you get it locally, or do you have freight charges also? _Allan
baby animals born...
Yes, kidding and foaling season is finished here. I had some very early (or late) foals last year, one very pregnant mare was sold. But the buyer was afraid to foal out so paid me extra to midwife her for her. For some reason, I knew it would be a stud colt, and didn't want to try to get it to weaning, market it and/or get it under saddle then market it. Didn't want to invest 3+ years in a crossbred colt with a 19 yr old dam. So, selling her with the foal inter-utero was ideal for me. (Midwifing farm animals seems to be my forte after all.) She foaled first of November and they took the pair home (I chipped in imprinting and halter training on the foal) before Christmas. The woman totally ignored my work, started doing things that terrified the baby, and had to have someone start him all over. But that was after they left here. I'd never tell anyone to throw a baby horse to the ground to 'show him who's boss'. If I'd known she was going to be stupid about it, I'd have charged her more! My other 2 pregnant mares foaled Nov 24 and Dec 10 with fillies. Again, I have no idea why, but I 'knew' these would be fillies. The oldest is approaching weaning age at the end of this month, and she's enormous for a 4 month old baby. The other one, Encanta, is from my favorite mare and is a living doll. Loves to be around me, comes nickering up whenever she sees me outside, and thinks I belong solely to herself. Going to be small, and a 'dirty dun' like her Mom, so I suspect I'll sell Mirada, the other one and keep her. I find I really like these dun horses, they seem to have much less hoof problems, hard hooves, and they always look dirty, no matter how much you polish them. So, a quick brush and a rag ran over them, and they're good to go. then there's the goats. I had made the decision to leave all kids on their dams if at all possible this year. I was there for the births, making sure kids knew which end was important, otherwise, the goats are raising their own offspring. First time in 20+ years, but I just don't have the 'oomph' anymore to pasteurize milk, bottle feed and make sure I'm out there milking twice a day. I milk once a day, or at least get the moms on the milkstand and check their udders, making sure they're being nursed out evenly, and take a little for the house when I need it. Except the kids are really drawing the does down, it seems to be working ok this way. Out of 7 kids, four are doelings. I had a waiting list for the doe kids, but I still may keep 2 of the very best ones. I know this has nothing to do with biodynamics, but it's farm life and Christy DID ask!
Re: Suma Rock Powder
I pay about $450-500 per ton, we usually split up a trailer
Re: Suma Rock Powder
I pay about $450-500 per ton, we usually split up a trailer Do you bring it in direct or do you have a middle man in that area? Can you recommend a source? Are you quoting delivered prices? -Allan
Basalt
Allan all, With BC on the mind I've been thinking about acquiring some basalt myself. Agrowinn (888-794-3674) is selling the Suma, $4800.00/10 ton load (without shipping) and 50 lbs bags for $20. Nuthin But Rock (616-674-3078) (recommended by JPI) is selling basalt fines for $10 / 25 lb box with a reduced frieght charge if you buy 10. Hugh C. uses this and says that these fines need to be sifted for use in BC. It's the shipping that's the killer...especially for those of us who live far from the mountains (any mountains!) Had a number for a basalt mine in North Carolina a while ago, but I've misplaced itwill have to go through some stacks to find it again. Talked with a company that was mining green 'meta-basalt in Virginia, but never got a call back with more information... Good to see more 'local' posts on the list... Ed
Re: Basalt
Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?
Re: Basalt
Luck Stone (1-800-898-LUCK) Talked with someone about sending me more information about the metabasalt...but never recieved a response. If you find out more info...let me know (Virginia is closer to me than Canada) Ed on a side note...if one does locate a source of rock close to home, how would one go about checking the paramagnetic qualities of such a material?? (where can it be sent?) Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?
Re: Basalt
Allan Steve, Are you concerned that basalt from a source near an airport might be contaminated with lead and other undesirables? What about town leaf litter for compost in terms of pesticides? Will that burn out in a pile? Jane From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:23:55 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Basalt Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?
Re: It's a beautiful day file
Steve, On both my mac and windows machines, I get a message which says file not found when I try and access your beautiful day! (Each one of the links you sent say this.) I'd love to see it. Jane S. From: Steve Diver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:03:36 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bob Cannard Wes Jackson Audio + RealSlideShow Here is the RealSlideShow sampler I put together. It's a Beautiful Day http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/ The music goes for 2.4 minutes, then the images continue to 3.3 minutes or thereabouts. RealSlideShow offers this ability to weave sound and images together. Well, sometimes life really is a beautiful day. Peace, Steve Diver
Re: my nettles
Nettles are easy to dry because they are so light. Just harvest on a dry day just after dew has dried. Lay on screens or hang in bunches. I wouldn't bother with the dehydrator unless you don't have anything but humidity. (which of course, is possible where you are). Another and favorite thing to do in spring when they first appear is make soup!! Make copious amounts of fresh leaf tea and dry the rest. JS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:18:33 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: my nettles Funny how we get possessive over something we actually have a use for. 2 years ago, I was griping about the nettles and now I consider them my earliest crop yet nothing has changed with the nettle itself, only my attitude toward it. They're anywhere from a foot tall to 18 inches in places. When would be a good time to dry some of them? I'd planned on laying them on screens in the haybarn but we've had such a wet year so far, they'd probably mold before they dried. I'm going to have to use the dehydrator and just watch how far I let them dry (will shatter if they're too brittle).
Re: Spring news
Title: Re: Spring news Chris Christy, Thanks for the advice. Do you have the latin names for these clovers? Christy, you wrote: and the fact that we don't quite have the interest in managing a staff, our latest revelation is that the small percentage of organic farms (8000 certified farms in the US- 90,000 farms in Kentucky alone) is not going to turn around agriculture, its really going to take everyone raising a garden AND buying from the farms. Hugh Lovel said this many years ago to his customers 'Please! Go ahead and put me out of business'. The reality of this is, (from the perspective of someone who is learning how to garden, grow plants for medicinal and culinary use, emphasis on Learning) is that it would take a huge sea change for this culture to grow into one of family subsistence farms urban cooperative farms. First of all, the price of land alone would stop many from realizing this dream. However, I also think even if we were all landowners, thered be a lot of education needed to help folks like me realize a dream of growing all their own food. So there really is a need more than ever, for small community based farms to feed most of the population, even as they learn to grow some of their own food. I think, ideally, we would expand on the csa concept and urban gardening concepts to guild out many of the needs of the community from dairy to clothing to medicine so that communities eventually could become more self sufficient, changing the very markets themselves. Its a good thing there are already good folks out there like you and Chris, to offer the educational opportunities to see how these ideals can be realized. Or like Jean-Paul Courtens, who consistently turns out not only great food, but great farmers who go off and continue bd or organic farms of their own for over a dozen years. Must be a huge change for you and the farm. Keep us updated on your progress. Because we are still going to need the Hugh Lovels with market gardens, the large csas like Roxbury Farm and the small self sufficient homestead providing educational outreach (on whatever scale) for quite some time in the future, or forums like Bdnow, I find it hard to imagine that a surge in home gardens will put Hugh out of business. (or you guys!) Gardening is already Americas number one hobby, (I just read that somewhere last week!) so now if we can only change the food distribution system by getting more folks to grow their own! Blessings, Jane From: The Korrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 16:44:21 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spring news For a ground cover Chris suggests Strawberry clover, or New Zealand white clover. Add some calcium or rock phosphate since the clovers will really thrive in this. Plus violets might indicate some soil acidity.
Re: Bob Cannard Wes Jackson Audio + RealSlideShow
OK, I see what you're talking about. The web page pulls up, but when you click on the RealSlideShow file called It's a Beautiful Day, there is a RealPlayer error message. When I logged on to a friend's computer it didn't work; it seems the RSS program has an embedded link pointing to a file on my C:/drive. Will try some FTP and HTML techniques and figure out the correct way to load the RSS files onto a remote web page. Will post the link again when it works OK from several different computers. Fyi, Steve Diver Also try the index page http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/index.html Or go directly to the RSS page http://www.ipa.net/~steved/audio/rss_beautiful_day.htm
put me out of business!
Anyone who grows open pollinated vegetables or other seeds is saying the same thing: (Please, put me out of business!) The few times I've sold to Brazos Natural Foods or The Farm Patch (one is a health food store, the other is a produce vendor only), I've always given them signs to put up, Open Pollinated Crop: Save Seeds For next Year!! Ok, they can't do that with much of it, not if they're going to eat it (like fresh corn), but giving named varieties helps anyone research finding the seeds to grow their own. The owners always wondered at my sanity (well, I do too most of the time, but another topic) But it seems to me, in my own experiences, the more different types I grow, the more I want to trial next year. I may save seed from only one type of tomato this year, (probably the Mongolian Tartar), and one corn (definitely Peace Seeds Martian Tricolor), but next year, I may want to try something totally different, so I'm constantly ordering things I haven't grown yet. I'd think everyone would want to do the same thing, once they are educated about the fact that there are so many differences in the strains of our food crops. The key is educating the sellers, and in turn, they'll (hopefully) 'trickle down' some of the knowledge to their consumers. If the food tastes better than it's common counterpart, and the consumer is a bit healthier for eating it, even if they may not know it, but they'll be there to be back for more next season. Oh, I wanted to ask the Australians here, a lady on another list (heirloom seeds), commented that ya'll can't import corn seed. Is that true? What types do you grow for yourself, and is anyone doing similar work to Hugh Lovel and Alan Kapular with corn genetics?
me either (beautiful day file access)
Steve, I couldn't get it to come up either. I have RealPlayer and that program came up fine. It searched for a moment, then gave me a 'file not found' note. I clicked on more info, and found: Requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or inaccurate. RealOne Player was sent an address (URL) that does not connect to an available file. Simply put, RealOne Player was given the wrong address of the file you requested. This is typically the result of a broken link on a Web page or a mistyped URL when using the RealOne Player Open dialog box. You will also receive this error message if you try to access content that has been removed from the Internet by the content provider. If you receive this message when clicking a link on a specific Web page, but are able to play content from other Internet sites, send email to the Web site manager. Be sure to include the address of the broken link (or Web page description) so the site manager can locate the problem. *** Martha note: I have this problem with my (new) website also. I've created a folder within the site and when my pages upload, they go to that folder instead of the main site. So it looks like I have broken links to either pages or photos. I haven't fixed it yet, I need to delete the folder and just upload directly to the site itself, but since it'll mean redoing about 10 pages, I just haven't done it yet. Maybe this is part of your problem? (You yourself will be able to access the page since you have it in your cache, but viewers outside your own computer can not.) Let us know when the problem is solved, I'd really like to see your slideshow!
beautiful day link
Steve, I don't know much about RealPlayer files, how they're uploaded, but the link shows: file:c:%5caudio%5crss_beautiful_day.smi Wouldn't you have to have a web address for everyone to access this file rather than on your C drive itself? On the other hand, you probably could send the file itself as an attachment to anyone who requests it in private.
Re: Off topic posts
Tony why is it that the poor country bumpkin gets the blame Lloyd - not blaming the good ole boys, just reporting that the impression we get is that the pseudo-president and his henchmen are behaving in the same way. Tony N-S. _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk
On topic: physical and etheric bodies of plants15
At 12:00 PM 3/9/2003 -0500, Christy wrote: So a really basic question (s) - The etheric body of a plant is its own, along with the physical body, but it has no astral body (otherwise it would have mobility and what else? Organs. Little bits of the outside captured inside the physical body. Like when the developing embryo forms an invagitation, then rolls in a bit of the outside skin. That first capture becomes the neural tube, the beginnings of the nervous system. From that grows all the sensory organs and brain -- that which has the ability to reflect the outer world because it starts by capturing a bit of it. The organs develop as astral centers, internalizing some of the outside -- while for plants, all that astral stuff stays outside. Then because the animal has it's own astral centers, it can be mobile. So, the astral body that hovers around it does that belong to the plant? Yes, tho I think it is more of a group astral. It reaches into the plant for flowering/ fruiting processes but the plant is always reaching for it. Think of those hollow center diagrams where the plants reaches toward the focal point but never gets there. David Robison Stellar Processes 1033 SW Yamhill Suite 405 Portland, OR 97205 (503) 827-8336 www.ezsim.com
Re: baby animals born...
I know this has nothing to do with biodynamics, but it's farm life and Christy DID ask! For me this is the pillar of biodynamics.Christy
Re: Suma Rock Powder
We can deliver a trailer, 22 tons, to you for about $8000... sstorch
Re: Basalt
Re the basalt from Nuthin but rock.. I got 8 tons from him (Gary Wilson) last fall, one of the last loads of 3/16 average, before there was a change of ownership at his quarry source. I'll be seeing him in a week or so to find out if the new owners are still planning to allocate the desired grit size for ag use. Incidentally, Gary tells me that larger pebbles have a significantly higher reading on his instrument, but i dont know firsthand if there are enough smaller finings in a load to glean a significant quantity for finer/ seedling work. If anyone wants, i would be happy to shuffle any communication with him if it saves telephone costs. I'm still waiting to see test results this spring from his dust spread on a local BD dairy farm's pasture in alternate strip application. For what it's worth, i have leftover pieces of drywall under my seedling flats, imagining that its composition would be complementary to the radiant rock dust in the trays sitting on it. My original reason for the drywall was as a heatsink to gradualize any temperature fluctuations. I guess i should do a test comparison, but my space is so limited. ..manfred - Original Message - From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Basalt Ed - Got more info on that VA Basalt? There is also supposedly a paramagnetic basalt dust source near Dulles Airport, but I've never located it/ (Anyone?) -Allan Which reminds me: how paramagnetic is Suma?
Running Out of Gas
Dear Friends, According to Jay Hansen and a number of oil industry experts, petroleum production will peak in this decade. (Some say it has already peaked.) Some experts also say that the energy cost of delivering the oil to the end user will equal the energy in the oil at around the same time. Jay Hansen's web site is at: http://dieoff.com/ Here is a quote from: http://dieoff.com/synopsis.htm Abstract: Petroleum geologists have known for 50 years that global oil production would peak and begin its inevitable decline within a decade of the year 2000. Moreover, no renewable energy systems have the potential to generate more than a tiny fraction of the power now being generated by fossil fuels. In short, the end of oil signals the end of civilization, as we know it. The problems that Jay Hansen and others are talking about are illustrative of larger problems that might well be discussed and resolved by folks on this list. We build structures to serve us. These structures may be corporate, governmental, religious, scientific or physical. In order to make these structures more efficient and enduring we often empower them to persist beyond the normal human life span and to accumulate more wealth and power than an individual can accumulate. For example, a corporate structure is formed to generate power for a community without power. The investors empower this structure by insisting that it be organized in such a way as to endure forever and to maximize profits. They hire a director and board of directors who are sympathetic to these goals. If their director or board of directors is successfully able to lobby the community to pass regulations which discourage competition, the investors, board and director are rewarded. Over the decades the regulatory advantages promoted by this structure will multiply because it is able to apply consistent pressure in promotion of these advantages while individuals or small groups of people, who may oppose these corporate advantages for a few years, eventually move, change their values or die off. Over the decades the unliving structures which provide us with energy, food, transportation, entertainment and other things we need, gain a monopoly or near monopoly on the particular thing that they provide. All of the resources that these structures have accumulated, through providing what we need, can also be used to prevent mere individuals from objecting to their accumulation of wealth and power. In order to survive, these structures must become adept at recognizing and suppressing any threats to their dominance. The corporate, religious, governmental and scientific structures, which provide us with the things that we need, are necessarily and uniformly opposed to any scheme which might allow an individual to fulfill their own needs by their own direct efforts. Folk remedies are discounted by federal regulators and pharmaceutical companies. Conservation and wind power are dismissed as viable options by nuclear energy promoters. And biodynamic farming is attacked by biotech firms. The structures we built to serve us eventually end up as our masters. Their control over us is exercised through economic and legislative monopoly. Most of us on this forum are interested in figuring out ways to free the individual from command and control structures. I think we need to expand our discussion to strategies that will give the individual the greatest independence in terms of energy, health care, and food. What triggered these thoughts was the discussion of shipping costs for rock dust. The real shipping cost is the energy expended in extracting, crushing and shipping the rock. Regardless of the economic cost of doing this we need to keep this fact in mind. I think the survival of our culture depends on the establishment of local and individual autonomy. If we look at the history of city-based cultures we can see a pattern to their collapse. As they depleted the area around the city their supply perimeter expanded. This expansion required the conquest of nature and the indigenous inhabitants of each new expansion perimeter. Soil was mined of nutrients for growing food and trees were mined for the energy to provide heat. As one expansion perimeter was depleted a wider expansion perimeter was required. Eventually the supply lines became so long and tenuous that any small disruption could shut them down. In some cases, the disruption was a drought. In other cases it was a war with those who were threatened by the next expansion perimeter of the city. Sometimes it was a deliberate disruption of these supply lines by siege. In every case the result was the same; those who were most dependent on the structure for their source of supply starved or were killed at the hands of those outside their expansion perimeter. Structures are not alive. We generally create them to maintain a static condition. We build a house to
Re: Spring news
Title: Re: Spring news Hey Jane, Here's a link for some clovers info, http://www.groworganic.com/a/a.html?sCategory=101On some of the clovers. Happy planting. Chris Chris Christy, Thanks for the advice. Do you have the latin names for these clovers? For a ground cover Chris suggests Strawberry clover, or New Zealand white clover. Add some calcium or rock phosphate since the clovers will really thrive in this. Plus violets might indicate some soil acidity.
Vinegar spray research (2) Fritz Haber
Two things from CBC radio today - 1. Ag Canada will be conducting research in Saskatchewan this season with vinegar spray for pre-seed burn-off. Tom Wolf of Ag Canada was interviewed on a general interest show - he is looking at concentrations of 5-10-20%; said that, at applications of hundreds of litres per hectare, farmers would have to make the vinegar themselves for it to be economical. Unfortunately, no trace of this research project at the Ag Canada site. 2. The story of Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel prize for his work on N fixation, was presented by playwright Vern Thiessen (Einstein's Gift is the play about Haber). What I found interesting from the BD/spiritual farming point of view was that Haber changed his religion from Jewish to Christian to further his career; he was instrumental in developing the large scale use of nitrogen fertilizers; his work with fertilizers led to his development of chlorine gas as a weapon (used on Canadian soldiers in WWI at Ypres) - then he changed back to Jewish faith, was killed by Nazis and his work was further used to develop Cyklon gas. It wasn't just the interweaving of chemical weapons and chemical fertilizers that was interesting, but the spiritual confusion I expect he may have gone through with the religion changes. I'm not saying that you have to be confused to change religions - but wonder if Haber was suffering spiritually from his work, or did his work emerge from a spiritual wasteland? Haven't read/seen the play, but Thiessen seems to regard Haber as a tragic hero, heroic for helping to feed people by increasing soil fertility. I wonder if Steiner knew Haber and what he might have had to say about the man. __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
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Re: put me out of business!
Oh, I wanted to ask the Australians here, a lady on another list (heirloom seeds), commented that ya'll can't import corn seed. Is that true? What types do you grow for yourself, and is anyone doing similar work to Hugh Lovel and Alan Kapular with corn genetics? We are unable to easily import anything that has a remote chance of being alive! Very strict quarantine laws - Aussie light horsemen (cavalry) had to shoot their mounts before returning home from the boer war and ww1 because of these rules - in theory you cannot bring in a good western saddle because of the rawhide covered tree (spose most of em are degenerated to fiberglass by now). There is a small company in northern NSW called Eden seeds who have a good catalog of open pollinated seeds, mostly they sell below the cost of comparable sized packs in the supermarket, and the seeds I have had from them have been good quality, vigorus, and true to description. Much of the stock is biodynamically grown, they also sell some bd and eco farmer books at very reasonable prices. Probably have at least twenty tomato varieties and ten or so of corn and sweet corn - we grew the multi colour aztec sweet corn two years ago - these people have plenty of genetic base material available for anyone that wanted to do the sort of thing that Hugh Lovel is doing - but we are different - corn for grain is not a very important crop in our country - our confinement livestock industry is built around small grains, wheat, barley, instead of corn and lupin, faba beans replacing soy for protein. Most corn grown goes either for canning under contract or is grown close to large feedlots for green chop silage. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Basalt
Ed on a side note...if one does locate a source of rock close to home, how would one go about checking the paramagnetic qualities of such a material?? (where can it be sent?) I have sent this out to a couple of others on the list it may help you When you are looking at rock dusts you can do a simple test for paramagnetism that will let you sort some of them out. I use a stack of little strong magnets on a string - the magnets that people use in healing patches are ideal. These are about a quarter inch round (called neo dimium I think) and you use them for pain relief - stuck on the skin in a little circular bandaid patch - I bet you know somebody that uses these - anyway about four used ones of these in a little stack (or anything similar) - tie a cotton or light string around the middle so you can hang the magnet down about a foot - now this is a sensitive scientific instrument so we need to calibrate it - get a sample of paramagnetic rock that you know the test reading of and keep it for reference (about 3000 to 4000 cgs is ideal) - use 35mm film canisters for the rock samples (or a paper envelope) - hold the canister in one hand on its side and the magnet on a string in the other - contact the magnet to the end of the canister then slowly move the string hand away - keeping just enough tension so there is no slack in the string but not pulling either - with reasonably good rock you find the string on about 45 degree angle before the magnet comes away - this is a good and quite accurate test IF you have a known rock for comparison and it lets you take a preliminary look at anything you find without spending any money - only thing is you need a strong little magnet - the sort they use for fridge ornaments are not good enough. This method lets you test local rock any time you see it and once you have a known sample to compare with I think its a good enough test for paramagnetic activity, once you get that far then I think that testing money is better spent looking at what is the mineral makeup of the rock - some rocks have good paramagnetism but lousy trace mineral analysis. Your prices for rock seem high unless this is a special fine grind for farming - we can buy the best rock in Aus for around 50bucks a ton ex the quarry - but we only can get crusher dust grade this goes from about 3/16 down to powder most of its like sand. Cheers Lloyd Charles
Re: Bob Cannard Wes Jackson Audio + RealSlideShow
When I logged on to a friend's computer it didn't work; it seems the RSS program has an embedded link pointing to a file on my C:/drive. Thanks, Steve, for the best laugh I've had all day! ;-) What a great example of the limitation of bench testing with mentation and the inestimable value of sharing our experiences with our friends!! ;-) -Allan
Electronic homeopathy for plants. Was Re: late winter farm
Dear Lloyd, I agree with you that a commercial farm is not really the place for doing chromas. How many BD farms or CSA's supply food with a certificate of quality backed up by chromas. To me they are only of intellectual interest to check how your farm is going overall. but really how do you define quality without a standard to measure it by. it seems to me that the nebulous thing which Alan defines as quality is best decided by the farmer themselves first, then by their peers and also by the customer. My guess is that if a farmer of any persuasion had to supply a certificate of compliance with their produce very little of the food produced would get to market. I believe that to simply use the preps and compost as defined by RS will only lead to depletion of soil mineralisation. There is more to cropping than that. In ancient soils as we have in large areas of Australia minerals are very low to start with, so any chance you have to add to mineralisation or to increase microbial growth will give a great return. Bruce Copen from Copen Instruments developed a fertiliser which was prepared radionically which he called Cosmo. it is a mixture of homeopathic Schussler tissue salts, radionically prepared BD preps, a substance called Agrospon which feeds bacteria and other microbes plus a couple of other remedies such as Lachesis ( a great anti viral ) and Lycopodium (to strengthen the archetype of the plant). I have been broadcasting this out during the drought as well as Copen's Nutritional spray # 5. Each of these have been broadcast for 24 hours at least once a fortnight since last spring when I realised that we were moving into severe drought.. People who come to our place all comment on the speed which the pasture and bushland has recovered, compared to surrounding farms. If you would like a phial of each to try in your broadcasters I would be pleased to send them to you. The use of electronic homeopathy for plants has a great future in overcoming mineral deficiency problems in plants and this combination of mixtures seems to be a valuable tool to have in your arsenal. have had eleven and a half inches of rain since the Albury workshop so we are well and truly out of the drought for the moment although much more rain is needed to replenish sub soil moisture. will be planting forage oats next week. It is amazing what a few weeks can make on a farm. Conditions can change so fast. Have you started planting yet? Kind regards James - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: late winter farm I dont expect the traditionalists on the list to go into raptures over this but I believe that we need to know if these things can work. It could be useful to use some radionically prepared prep water in any making of BD preps - Lloyd - What I'd like to see is chromas comparing crops (carrots, for example) grown in radionically prepped soils and in conventional BD prepped soils. We can have good physical appearances but still not have everything that we are looking for in BD food. Are you up for doing something like this? Allan The way I understand this type of comparison trial its difficult to do because of the crossover effect of physical preps? 500 will spread its influence over the general area treated? We 'd assume that the other preps do likewise. I know Hamish says its not necessary to cover every square yard when you spray the preps - so to move away from this influence for a comparison we then introduce the change in soil types as a variable? I'll talk to Cheryl maybe they can do chromas on the actual BC, I think one of the members in the Bellingen area is up to doing chromas, its beyond me at this stage (and outside of my interest) there are more basic problems need attention. I think I've said to you before I like to come at things from as many different angles as I can, I'm certainly not advocating giving up making proper preps and doing it all off cards, but why not use the radionics to add some extra? I think Steve Storch is doing stuff like this now - maybe not radionically. Any of these easy things we should do any chance we get - it may not be ideal but if it gets done easy and cheap it must add to the overall effect. With my potentiser, cards and ash samples, anytime I put anything liquid out I can add some preps or pepper weeds to bolster the effect of the broadcaster, its easy and there is no cost. Will let you know if anything develops Cheers Lloyd Charles
