Re: Organizing the Work on the Weed Project

2003-02-20 Thread Merla Barberie
To Tony, Gil, Steve D., Frank, Lloyd  Allan (from past posts) and others,

Thank you for all your help with conceptualizing for our road IPM project.  I'm
going to call Brad, the Weed Supervisor, today and have a talk about this
year's work.  The help you have given me is invaluable.  I have gathered all
the posts on my word processor and will print them out to have them together.

Best,

Merla



Rambler Flowers LTD wrote:

  Tony -
 
  Nice integration of BD preps with a mulching technique
  to achieve vegetation control, worm action, soil biology
  and a clean bed to transplant into.   also getting the
  muck and magic benefits of the BD preps all at the
  same time.
 
  Steve Diver

 Thanks Steve the worm activity is amazing.
 I have been thinking of developing this further as i have a particularly
 dirty block that i want to plant into  in about 18 months.
  After a soil test I am going to sheet compost with grasses, sawdust, lime ,
 animal manure , Steve Storchs sequential spray programme using Glens
 Potentised preps and what ever organic fertilisers i need to balance the
 soil according to Albrecht and Reams ie 60-70% Calcium, 12%Magesium 3-5%
 Potash, 1-2% sodium  aiming to achieve a CEC level of 25%  and a pH of
 between 6-7,  and then cover with weed mat until worms have done their
 magic.I will follow with a quick green crop and repeat  as above missing out
 the soil test this will take 12 months  to next autumn. Before it becomes
 too wet final raised beds will be set up . Aftera further check of nutrient
 levels, the beds will be mulched with  compost and covered with weed mat,
 every 6-8 weeks weed mat will be removed for 10 days to encourage weed seed
 germination weed mat is then replaced until spring planting
 I will also be monitering brix  pH and erg levels  and making any
 adjustments as i see fit.
 The aim is have well balanced soil that is pest, disease and weed free for a
 crop of gentians that will be planted for 5-6 years.
 Thanks Steve for your inspirational reply it triggered off the above idea
 siutable for intensive cropping . The area covered will be 50 by 7 metres
 and will be planted with 2000 plants. I will also do a similar area next
 door with out the weed mat to compare results .




Re: Organizing the Work on the Weed Project | Weed Barrier extravaganza

2003-02-20 Thread Steve Diver
Tony -

That's a nice system you have in mind.  It is practical,
it integrates, and it links the fundamental practices of Steiner,
Albrecht, and Reams along with your own farm-ready
insight.

One of your ideas is worth repeating.  Let the weeds come
up, then put them back down under the weed mat.  Worms
like to feed on decaying organic matter, they stir the soil,
and they excrete their castings, soil-binding glues, and
growth-promoting enzymes, nutrients, and bioactive
substances.

Weeds function like a cover crop.  The roots and leaves
provide living biomass; the rhizosphere and phyllosphere
serve as a brief home for microorganisms, the weeds
further the cycle of life, and then they decompose
and release their plant-available nutrients and provide
food and shelter for soil microorganisms.

Yet, you create a clean and weed-free bed to raise
your vegetables, flowers, and herbs.  One of the
remarkable aspects of the weed barrier method,
is the realization that you are spending time
enjoying the garden. walking around,
smelling fragrant flowers, observing Nature,
hand-picking a few bugs, harvesting and tending
to your plants  instead of dealing with weeds,
weeds, and more weeds on a weekly or bi-weekly
basis. Once you plant your transplants into the
weed barrier, you more or less just walk away.

The BD preps have their work and their influence.

How do I find out the details on Steve Storch's
recipe for sequential spraying?

There is a grower who used the weed barrier method
in market farming with permanent raised beds, tractors,
spading equipment, composting, BD preps, and the
works.  It seems to me worth repeating, it serves as an
example of the weed barrier in action.

Paul Sansone, a biodynamic flower grower in Oregon,
used the DeWitt Pro-5 Weed Barrier on 5-15 acres
of raised bed production. His farm has been featured
in Growing for Market and one of the greenhouse
trade magazines, like Greenhouse Grower.

As I recall from the Growing for Market article:

*Permanent raised beds
*Tractor straddles the bed
*Cover crop established in the fall
*Mow and incorporate cover crop in spring
*Tractor with fertilizer buggy straddles bed and lays
  down compost + organic fertilizer blend
*Drip irrigation tape set out on bed
*DeWitt Pro-5 Weed Barrier laid down and tucked in
*Weed barrier has pre-burned holes for 6 and 12
  transplant spacings, other spacings as neeed
*Hand transplant and water in
*Turn on drip irrigation
*Watch plants grow, tend to plants, irrigate plants

--
*But no fuss over weeds, mechanical cultivation,
  wheel hoes, or hand hoeing
--

I'm not sure how the BD preps were integrated
into the Sansone system, but you get the idea from
the summary above how the sequence works.

OrganicBoquet.com is Paul Sansone's web page

OrganicBoquet.com
http://www.organicbouquet.com/sansone.shtml

Of particular interest is the sub-section on biodynamics

Secular Biodynamics - Agriculture Beyond the Organic
By Paul Sansone
http://www.organicbouquet.com/biodynamics.shtml

And further within...

The Seven Essential Elements of the Biodynamic Method
By Paul Sansone
http://www.organicbouquet.com/biodynamics4.shtml

Interestingly, Paul Sansone and Susan Vosburg have
this website, Here  Now Garden

Here  Now Garden
http://www.hereandnowgarden.com/

Especially see Grower's Corner:

Grower's Corner
http://www.hereandnowgarden.com/growerscorner.html

It has useful notes on BD practices for fungus and botrytis
control, fertilization, soil and cover crops, tillage. .

Perennial plants should be top dressed each spring with
1/4 - 1/2 of ripened Biodynamic compost.

An organic plant food is banded into the bed under where the
cut flower plants will be planted when the bed is being shaped
or it is worked into each planting hole for the plants as they are
being planted. This balanced plant food is 4 parts seed meal,
1 part rock phosphate, 1/2 part kelp, and 1 part greensand.

The Green Beam website is the online gateway for
Branch-Smith Publishing.  Branch-Smith publishes Greenhouse
Manager-Pro (GM-Pro), as well as Nursery Manager-Pro
(NM-Pro) and related trade magazines. The following online
article features Paul Sansone.

The Dynamics of Biodynamic Growing:  Lean how
Here  Now Garden Uses Sustainable Agriculture
to Produce Fresh Cut Flowers
http://www.greenbeam.com/features/tour062899.stm

Now, I switch to the work of the late Dan Wofford who
influenced me in relation to weed barrier production
methods.

It is a long story to relay all the integrated approaches
we took in our various plantings:  weed barrier, hydrogels,
organic fertilizers, composts, mycorrhizae, special plug trays,
Booth tube plugs, Chapin bucket irrigation kits (gravity-flow)
in remote sites, etc.

Allow me to post the library where Dan Wofford's
work resides.

HydroSource @ Castle International Resources
http://www.hydrosource.com/

Library on 

Re: Organizing the Work on the Weed Project | Weed Barrier extravaganza

2003-02-20 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD

 How do I find out the details on Steve Storch's
 recipe for sequential spraying?

 Hi Steve Diver  The following are post i have kept from S Storch, the one i
used i have lost due to a computer failure. I have it on hard copy it should
be in BDNOW archives as
SFW Compost Tea for Fertility dated Wed  Jan 16 2002
I am not as advanced as SS in prep making so i have adjusted the ingredients
a little to what is available to me .
All the evening sprays I add worm pee [aka Worm leachate] The worm farms get
alll the BD preps and organic fertilisers, molasses etc this gives me a
smell free material that i can safly use on flowers , since we pick 6 days a
week  this is an important factor.
I start  my spraying the week of full moon and spray every 2 months
Cheers Tony R

 North American Barrel Compost Recipe

1.  501

2.  Barrel Compost

3.  508

4.  505

5.  horn clay

6.  500

7.  501 / 508

This is my spray sequence that I feel is most suitable for the  North
American continent.  I start it off with a silica based barrel compost, I
then proceed through the sprays asap, any questions???
This is  a freebee that took me years to develope, use it or lose it.
Stephen Storch
In a message dated 6/2/01 7:36:08 AM, SBruno75 writes:

 From mid April to the third week in May we had zero rain.  Our new
planting of strawberries looked fantastic with no irrigation.  Cloudy
weather
and rainy the last two weeks, a few sunny days.  Our strawberries have
ripened and we are already picking a week.  Fantastic color, luster, and
flavour.  So good the birds risk stealing them from the trays at the back of
the store.  I spoke to a chemical farmer yesterday, they won't have
strawberries for two more weeks.  Do you think they will catch on???

spray program

1.  My silica barrel compost recipe (previously posted)...sprayed end of
March, mid April
2.  followed by 501 - basalt spray
3.  500  first week of May
4.  Silica bc - basalt - clay second week of May
5.  501- basalt - clay
6.  pickin' strawberries, boy I wish you guys were here!!!
7.  raining today, 501 - basalt spray this morning

Try it.  SStorch 




Organizing the Work on the Weed Project

2003-02-19 Thread Rambler Flowers LTD


 If you are trying to establish wildflowers, then you
 should think twice and then three times about the
 DeWitt Sunbelt Weed Barrier.  As I said, I can
 guarantee that you will have a successful planting.

Hi Merla  I have been using this method of weed control for about 5 years.
It has been especially  effective  on couch and  grasses. I spray 500 and
barrel compost before placing weed mat and sit back and wait for all the
worms to gobble up the decaying green matter.
After  removing the weed mat I cover the ground with sawdust and plant up
using plugs.
I have also used black plastic sheeeting It is cheaper but does not last as
long.

Cheers Tony





Re: Organizing the Work on the Weed Project

2003-02-19 Thread Steve Diver
Tony -

Nice integration of BD preps with a mulching technique
to achieve vegetation control, worm action, soil biology
and a clean bed to transplant into.   also getting the
muck and magic benefits of the BD preps all at the
same time.

Steve Diver


Rambler Flowers LTD wrote:

  If you are trying to establish wildflowers, then you
  should think twice and then three times about the
  DeWitt Sunbelt Weed Barrier.  As I said, I can
  guarantee that you will have a successful planting.

 Hi Merla  I have been using this method of weed control for about 5 years.
 It has been especially  effective  on couch and  grasses. I spray 500 and
 barrel compost before placing weed mat and sit back and wait for all the
 worms to gobble up the decaying green matter.
 After  removing the weed mat I cover the ground with sawdust and plant up
 using plugs.
 I have also used black plastic sheeeting It is cheaper but does not last as
 long.

 Cheers Tony




Re: Ramial Wood Chips, Paramagnetic Rock and Organizing the Work on the Weed Project

2003-02-17 Thread Merla Barberie
Steve, you're so nice to spend the time to do this.  I will ponder.  I
can't imagine finding enough ramial wood chips in this land of fir,
larch, pine, cedar  hemlock.  They cut the softwood and leave the
hardwood--birch, alder, cottonwood and others.  I just wanted to
establish the benefits of hardwood chips.

What I was looking at wood chips for was for a special area which is
parking for The Falls,  a place where you climb down stepping stones
from the road level to a very turbulent rapids-like falls that goes into
a pool.  People often stop there and look and also fish.  The edge of
the parking area is a rampant common tansy bed.  The Weed Supervisor has
made noises about having a dump truck load of cedar chips put there.
What I actually wanted to do was divide the area into at least two
parts--one cedar and one ramial wood chips and watch it long term for
growing something instead of tansy.  I thought that the cedar area
wouldn't grow anything at all and that the ramial chips would also kill
the tansy, but would encourage mycorrhizal fungi and eventually grow
local native forest plants, etc.  This comparison might be valuable.
I'm trying to teach the Weed Committee and our world here to think in
terms of a forest community--plants and soil biota rather than only in
terms of the absence of 'noxious' weeds mentality that leaves bare
disturbed soil that will be even more weedy.  We are going to do a weed
education project with 4-H with a cash prize for the group that hands in
the best weed herbarium. I'm trying to get them to have an alternate
project on the soil food web.

I probably wouldn't buy plant starts.  I like to grow starts myself and
I'm always transplanting 'weeds' from our garden to the road
right-of-way, a mile and a half down the hill from our place where they
have become a small native ornamental garden around a 'NO SPRAY' sign.
I have $923 left in the cost-share grant this year.  I have gathered
native grass seeds from our meadow and looked into buying some mixed
native grass seed which I would probably germinate in flats and plant
out, especially since Idaho fescue is a spotty, slow germinator.  Clover
is a great germinator and drought survivor.

In thinking about a county-wide, cost-effective IPM weed control
strategy, I'm thinking about the addition of clover, microorganisms,
micronutrients (on a gross scale--you can't test the soil every mile),
then a very thick stand of low growing grass that won't need mowing at
all and maybe sow some yarrow and Rocky Mountain penstemon seeds (They
came up wild on my private right-of-way patch when I pulled out the
knapweed over a long period of time.  Now I have a strong stand of
penstemon.)  Our original vision statement said wildflowers, but this
is so hard that I'm willing to settle just for grass, but I still dream
of having wildflowers that come up all season.

We are testing 20% vinegar this year and had good luck with urea on
hawkweed.  In the fall we laid out a test plot in a thick solid knapweed
stand and hand dug up all the knapweed except the little rosettes and
sprayed Bruce Tainio's micronutrients from a soil test + his
microorganisms (very expensive) + his enzymes, then sowed clover seeds
in that.  It was late, but it was warmer a much longer time than usual
after that.  We had some snow, then rain.  I'm very interested in how
this looks this spring.  It should be very dramatic.  Our flame weeding
is done with our own weed torch which is just a metal tube with a
butterfly valve at the handle hooked to a propane tank in a back pack.
It set tansy back, but didn't kill it all.

Your DeWitt Sunbelt Weed Barrier sounds too expensive.  The newspaper
under the hardwood chips sounds excellent.  Steve, I'm not above digging
weeds in rainy weather.  We do have to get rid of the weeds.

This road and the whole area is glacial till.  We have wind blown laos
coming off western grain fields in eastern Washington.  This was a
forest next to an agricultural area.  There used to be a railroad in
here to take logs out, long, long ago.  There were only several
pioneering families living here with a short road.  Now it's an 8-mile
road that gets more primitive the farther in you go with 300 families.
At the beginning are four ranches, then a bridge over a river, a
wonderful store with laundromat and showers, followed by houses close to
and facing the road, then we have private roads off the feeder road and
people mostly living off road, but still some on the road. One old
family that owns a whole section of land on the road are pro-chemical
and they sprayed 2,4-D on their right-of-way, so we are truly IPM.  We
have three miles where the county ditched several years ago but didn't
reseed.  It's just sand with a few weeds starting.  It's mostly open to
the sun, but the couple of miles has forest right up to the road and is
shady--bare on one side and with various mixtures of moss, kinnickinnick
(bearberry), native grass mixed with tansy, knapweed,