Re: Improvements to http://perl-begin.org/

2009-08-14 Thread Steve Fink
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Shlomi Fishshlo...@iglu.org.il wrote:
 We hope you enjoy the new site. If you like it, please recommend it to
 your friends - if you don't - let us know and we'll see what we can do. Unless
 mentioned otherwise, all the material on http://perl-begin.org/ is made
 available under the Creative Commons Attribution Licence (CC-by) for almost
 unlimited distribution and re-use.

How would you like the replies? I'll just reply all until you tell me otherwise.

3-second reaction: what do you have against my monitor? Ok, so I have
some useless windows open much of the time myself, but that's me. If I
want to splurge and buy myself an excessively large monitor, then
please don't judge me by forcing your web page to exactly 780 pixels
wide.

I'm referring to http://perl-begin.org/style.css line 40 (according to
Firebug), specifically this CSS:

  #page-container { ... width:780px; }

Bad!

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Re: Improvements to http://perl-begin.org/

2009-08-14 Thread Offer Kaye
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Steve Fink wrote:

 I'm referring to http://perl-begin.org/style.css line 40 (according to
 Firebug), specifically this CSS:

  #page-container { ... width:780px; }

 Bad!


I have to say, the site looks very good visually - I haven't looked at
the contents yet, but in terms of initial visual impact - it's very
good. You've chosen a good template :)
However I have to agree with Steve, having the fixed 780px width is
annoying. My problem is the reverse of Steve, I have a large screen
and having all the content crammed in a relatively small area in the
middle of the screen doesn't add anything.

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Improvements to http://perl-begin.org/

2009-08-13 Thread Shlomi Fish
I thought the Perl Beginners' Site - http://perl-begin.org/ 
was perfect after the last update, but boy I was wrong. A quick review and 
critique of the site by a certain prominent Perl developer revealed many
issues with it, and afterwards I had found a lot of stuff that was lacking. So 
here's what has changed.

We're now mirroring the public domain Perl for Newbies tutorial on
http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/perl-for-newbies/ as well as the GFDLed book
Impatient Perl by Greg London ( http://www.greglondon.com/ ). Their
presence on the site was done in order to preserve Perl-Begin's common look 
and feel, and to make sure people would be able to access them without
having to go to a different site, which may be blocked by over-zealous
web-filters. We hope to mirror other freely distributable material that
may prove useful to beginners on Perl-Begin in the future.

The call-for-action notice at the beginning was changed to 
Learn Perl Now! and now appears on all the pages.

We also fixed several look and style glitches.   

There are also several corrections to the text and the hyperlinks.

Stack Overflow was added to http://perl-begin.org/web-forums/ .

There are now mentionings of two new topical books at
http://perl-begin.org/books/topics/ - 
Perl amp; LWP and Programming the Perl DBI.

Finally, the About this site page at http://perl-begin.org/about.html 
was updated and made more modern.

We hope you enjoy the new site. If you like it, please recommend it to
your friends - if you don't - let us know and we'll see what we can do. Unless
mentioned otherwise, all the material on http://perl-begin.org/ is made
available under the Creative Commons Attribution Licence (CC-by) for almost
unlimited distribution and re-use.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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