Re: [Ankur-core] [Proposal] Changing the assignment of ZWNJ in Probhat
Jamil Ahmed wrote: On 4/30/07, das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 15:18 +0600, Jamil Ahmed wrote: [ `] = ZWNJ [~] = ZWJ +1 Anyone else? DS/SDG/RunaB/Golam/Others?? I guess I had proposed this..mostly for the ra-japhala issue as mentioned by sayam. [~] = ZWNJ [ `] = ZWJ I'd still go with this. The ZWJ is currently on shift+= (or +) and it'll be easier to write, if it doesn't need a shift key. regards Runa - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
Re: [Ankur-core] [Proposal] Changing the assignment of ZWNJ in Probhat
das wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 14:43 -0400, Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: Since, usability is the main issue, I also agree with Deepayan on relocation of 'hasant'. [ \ ] intuitaviely resembles more like actual hasanta than current [ / ]. This point has occurred to me too, time and again. If [\] does anything, that should be 'hasanta'. But there is a problem. While typing, all the more used things should always be within the three main rows. Use of 'hasanta' is not at all that common in modern Bangla, but the other job that is done by [/] now is conjoining, and that is pretty common, almost once every word in average, or even more than that. And moving just the little finger of the right hand helps in keeping up the speed, that will not be true for [\], every time for a conjoined letter right palm will get physically moved, when the bases of both the palms are fixed on the table, that is the natural position of the palms, and the healthy one for typing for long periods of time (ergonomic too). By just stretching the right little finger you cannot get [\]. You have to move it. This is true for both the keyboards I use, the TVS-Gold (it is a quite reputed one) and even the cramped keyboard of the Acer Aspire 3002 laptop. So, I think it will be true for any keyboard. This speed thing is so very important for the heavy bulk Bangla writers. So, I think, in no way it will be prudent at all to give the conjoining function to the [\] key. I absolutely support Dipankarda's views here about the hasanta. Moving it to \ is an inconvenient way of writing conjuncts. Secondly, about DS' query regarding (in)frequent usage of ZWJ: Sayam's blog entry regarding the matter is pretty much conclusive http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/2007/04/09/ra-japhala-in-bengali-bn-and-unicode-50/ Unicode rules prescribe the usage of ZWJ (and not ZWNJ) for writing ra-japhala. quote-from-blog/book ” …Unicode Standard adopts the convention of placing the character U+200D ZWJ immediately after the ra to obtain the ra-yaphaala…” /quote-from-blog/book Since ZWNJ is also used by Uniscribe's older versions perhaps the following scheme can be adopted to keep both on non-shift keys: [`] ZWJ [\] ZWNJ regards Runa - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
Re: [Ankur-core] bugs in pango
Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: On 4/6/07, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have recently noticed a fairly bad bug in Pango w.r.t. the handling of ZWNJ; in fact I'm surprised no one has mentioned it before. Anyway, I've put up a test page with screenshots at snipped QT 4.2.3 seems to have the bug fixed, as Khanda-ta is defined as a consonant. question for Deepayan: whats the qt version used. tia runa - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
Re: [Ankur-core] Re: website in Bangla
Excuse me for intruding... but are we connected in this in any way? Runa Amartya Kumar Bhattacharya wrote: Dear Nandita, This is very good. I shall ring you in evening. I am hard -pressed for time today as I have Invigilation Duty plus a Departmental PhD Committee meeting. The Bengali portal will enable us to reach out to many more students. With best wishes, Amartya */nandita bose [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: GNOME Bangla Translation Project http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/18/29/KDE Bangla Translation Project http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/19/29/Mandrake/Mandriva Linux Bangla Translation Project http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/20/29/Redhat/Fedora Linux Bangla Translation Project http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/21/29/SUSE Linux Bangla Translation Project http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/22/29/OpenOffice.org Bangla http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/24/29/Bengali Google http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/25/29/Bengali Dictionary http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/26/29/Free Bangla Fonts Project http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/27/29/Lekho http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/28/29/Archive of Bengali literature http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/29/29/Ankur Bangla Live! CD http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/view/30/29/ www.bengalinux.org http://www.bengalinux.org/ contact add: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Amartya, I have send my query reg translation from English to other Indian languages like Hindi,Bengali others. I have referres Ur Name with mail Id to send you favourable reply reg this matter. I have asked whether they are ready to translate any Article from English to other Indian Languages or not/ Hope to get their reply. With best wishes, Nandita. Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman10/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39663/*http://messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! India Answers http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/in/mailanswersshare/*http://in.answers.yahoo.com/ Share what your know-how and wisdom Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Yahoo! Messenger Download now http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/in/freesms/*http://messenger.yahoo.com/download.php --- All the advantages of Linux Managed Hosting--Without the Cost and Risk! Fully trained technicians. The highest number of Red Hat certifications in the hosting industry. Fanatical Support. Click to learn more http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=107521bid=248729dat=121642 ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
[Ankur-core] Re: May I know, why I am removed from this BUG's CC list?
hmm... i was of the impression that i had removed myself and sankarshan from: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284578. anyways that done now. Runa Jamil Ahmed wrote: RunaB? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: [Bug 305596] Registration of Firefox Bengali INDIA (bn-IN) Do not reply to this email. You can add comments to this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305596 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| --- Comment #9 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-19 22:05 PDT --- (In reply to comment #8) Hi, Thanks a lot. During the intitial stages i guess it would be nice to work on CVS commits under your guidance. Currently no communication has been received regards the cvs account creation. The Bengali India (bn_IN) language pack for 1.5.0.x is currently available in .xpi format at: http://runa.randomink.org/Firefox/bn-IN-1.5.xpi. If this is not the required structure then i would be changing it accordingly. thanks Runa -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
Re: [Ankur-core] What is Unicode
Omi Azad wrote: Baishampayan Ghose wrote: IMHO, the correct pronunciation of _Consortium_ is _কনসোর্শিয়াম_ and not _কনসোরটিয়াম_. So I guess that should be changed accordingly too. I found the attached reference in a dictionary. Please check. bhaskar is right: http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/consortium you can also check on the audio pronounciation guide. and imho-checking bengali dictionaries for pronounciation of english words is not a good idea. runa --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
[Ankur-core] shortcut key combinations
As this has become a major policy decision am moving the thread to core. Progga wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:24:07AM +0530, Runa B wrote: Any updates on these two issues. cc-ing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. regards I have said many times that I have absolutely no problem with bn shortcuts. Can you share more details about the distro and any other patches that you might be using, so that this option can be explored further. There's been no decision in this regard in Ankur either. So please clarify this through further discussion in the core list. There have been ***numerous*** mails sent about this issue over the past 2 years hoping that after discussing it thoroughly a consensus would be reached. Links follow. 1) http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=5540743forum_id=12023 2) http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=11008260 3) http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=13195504 4) http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7531311forum_id=24633 #1 was sent by me sometime in 2004. No answer till date. In the link #2 jamil had specifically requested for everyone on a consensus on this issue. same for #3.The minutes of the ankur meeting had been posted about a month back and no comments have come in so far about any of the issues, barring one reply from jamil this morning. If there's a decision then I'll update the GTK+ and gtk+-properties POs immediately. But let the decision come first. As I have said in my last mail gtk+* files override some of the important menu items in Gnome appilcations e.g. file, new, cut, copy, paste etc. etc. which results in nearly 40% of the menu items picking up bn shortcuts from the gtk+* files, even though the shortcuts in that particular application use english shortcuts. in the case of gtk+* files..shortcut keys are not the only issue. even the menu entries get overridden. It would be quite confusing to the users if GNOME uses en shortcuts and KDE uses bn. agreed. and even more confusing if half of the interface of a single application in either of the two desktop interfaces do not match. generally it is considered that languages using non-latin scripts should stick to the original english shortcuts for the sake of consistency. Especially languages which use half-form conjuncts. A nice link for this: http://listserv.acm.org/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0502bL=chi-interculturalF=S=P=645 Given that important issues like this come up in fits and starts and raise their heads like ghosts from the past with people reluctant to talk, the only solution i see is throwing issues open to vote and then going by that decision. Runa --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
[Ankur-core] Re: [ooo-bn-trans] Why RH always goes for IN only??
i suggest file a bug and/or write to Caolan McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] with all the details. runa Jamil Ahmed wrote: Hello, As we had worked hard for BN for OpenOffice, Red Hat/Fedora released language pack for bn_IN only? Any thoughts? Ref: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/4/i386/openoffice.org-langpack-bn_IN-2.0.0-3.2.1.i386.rpm Best, `Jamil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628alloc_id=16845op=click ___ Bengalinux-core mailing list Bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bengalinux-core
