Re: Carob

2002-12-16 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
I haven't seen this answer yet, but I'm not current on all the List
traffic yet.

Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose
it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure?

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berwyn PA




Health Articles, ED, Histio, etc

2002-12-16 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Just to let all you new List members know, there are a number of
articles about health issues:
http://www.jersey.net/~mountaindog/berner1/

The articles explain the health issue, then compile a number of
experiences shared by members of the Berner-L. 

There is also a copy of the article on Histiocytosis on the site, my
goal is to be able to remove it someday in the future. A huge thanks to
all of the people who were willing to share for all the articles, but
particularly the ones for histio - I know how painful those were to
write.

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berwyn PA




RE: Carob

2002-12-16 Thread Andrea Brin
it should be, but it is so closely related to soy that i would not use it.

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Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose
it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure?






Re: dandruff problems

2002-12-16 Thread Emma Goodall
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RE: dandruff problems

2002-12-16 Thread Karen McFarlane
Hi! I too followed some advice from the list and started to give Stevie a
tin of salmon. In less than two weeks I see a significant improvement,
actually when I brushed him yesterday for his picture with Santa I saw no
flaking at all!! Fabulous. He certainly loves his salmon, is it too much to
give him a 6 oz tin every evening with his supper?  Perhaps he should only
have it every other day? What about tuna would he derive the same type of
benefits from it but less fat or is it just the salmon? I also am giving him
plain yogourt every morning approx. 3 or 4 good sized tablespoons. Should I
be giving him the fat free kind or is the regular alright ? I don't want him
to get too fat. He weighs 102.3 pounds last week and he will be a year old
on January 1, 2003. The vet thought that he was fine right now, you can
still feel his ribs, but he has lots of loose skin yet. He is also going to
be neutered on January 3rd  and I understand that weight is sometimes a
problem after they are altered.
Karen and Stevie
NB, Canada



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Poopin' Puppy Problems

2002-12-16 Thread Gregory Clark
Well our almost 6 month old girl was potty trained at around 3 
months...untill now.

Lately, every night she has been pooping in her crate.There has been a 
few times that I believe she may have eaten some of it maybe out of 
embarrassment I'm not sure.So now we moved her into our laundry 
room and blocked off the doorway.   That way if she makes a mess its on the 
floor.  Easier to clean.But no she still has to do her business on 
her bedding.   Our washig and drier have been working on over time lately.


One other thing I may add.   The other night I was watching TV. 
then I smelt that smell.  Sure enough she had gone into her crate and 
went however there was only a bit left which leads me to believe she 
ate it.Any idea on the cause of this.
We have a golden that is 6 years.   I am thinking maybe she is doing it on 
purpose  because she sees the other dog loose in the house.


Thanks for all your help.



Molly is home!

2002-12-16 Thread Martha Hoverson

Just wanted to let everyone know that Molly is home from Tufts, where she 
had a TPO on her right hip last Friday.  She is able to bear weight quite 
well on the leg, which is of course both good and bad!  Good that she is 
healing well; not so good because she wants to do all her normal things 
(chase the cats, climb the stairs, go to the TV room and settle in on the 
couch).  My husband and I are both home today to coddle her, and he is 
taking vacation this week and next.

The only real problem thus far is that she keeps whining to go out; we take 
her thinking she needs to pee, only to realize that she wants to be in *her* 
yard, where she usually spends as much of the morning as we will let her!

Don has been carrying her in and out, but we are hoping to get a ramp set up 
in the next day or two, as some of you recommended--hopefully before his 
back gives out!  75 pounds is not huge for a Berner, but it's a lot of dog 
to hoist!

We are just thrilled to have her home again, although the next 6-8 weeks may 
be rough in terms of keeping her quiet.  Fortunately she likes her crate and 
is very quiet there.

Thanks for all the supportive e-mails in response to my first post,

Martha and Molly




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Dealing with Grief -- Good Book

2002-12-16 Thread Suzanne Hostetter
Hi Everyone,
The BMD Club of Greater Seattle had an information booth on Saturday at
Paws for the Holidays (a pet-oriented craft fair and public education
day in Tacoma, WA)  We were also selling items to support the BMDCA
Lobby Effort.  I met a wonderful woman there who was autographing and
selling her book PARTING WORDS/PARTING WAYS:  Saying Good-bye to Your
Pet.Laura Ritter Carlson runs a feline rescue organization.  Her
book is very touching and full of a variety of ways to help deal with
the painful loss of a best friend.  It has information on understanding
grief, ideas for making the process more meaningful, lovely poems and
quotes and many, many letters written by owners to their special pets. 
Proceeds from the sale of this book go to animal rescue.  You can find
more information at:
http://www.cypresshouse.com/catalog/catalog.shtml

Early in the day, Laura came by our booth and was very interested in the
BMDCA Lobby Effort.  She bought two Lobby lapel pins, 2 wreaths, and
lots of bake sale goodies.  At the end of the day, she came by with a
$50 check to donate to the Lobby Effort!   What a lovely way to end the
day.

My heart goes out to everyone going through the grief of losing a best
friend -- it is part of life and, though very painful, not something any
of us would choose not to experience, given that doing so would mean
choosing to have lived without knowing the joy of that life and love and
friendship. 

Berner wags,
Suzanne Hostetter
Rochester WA




dogs and bloat/torsion

2002-12-16 Thread Bernadette
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Re: Various Berner questions

2002-12-16 Thread Joe Cheer

Dear All,

This is just a short note to thank everybody for their advice; we will
be able to make much more educated choices now. I still have not heard
anything about the insurance, is VPI any good?

Many thanks

Joe Cheer and Bilbo





ED surgury v.s. no surgury

2002-12-16 Thread Krsmith1977
Hello everyone,

I’m looking to the great berner-l for some advise here! I have a almost 9 month old 
berner boy that I'm taking to the vet on thursday and I want to do as much research as 
possible before hand so, please email me privately your experiences with your dogs and 
their elbows. I would love to hear from those of you who have dogs that have had 
surgery (preferably when they were young) and those who chose to go the non-surgery 
route and of course how they are all doing!

Thanks so much in advance!!!
Kelli Smith
Livonia, MI




Re: ED surgury v.s. no surgury

2002-12-16 Thread gwebara
I have had surgery done on 2 of my dogs for ED and have not done it on
several others. Here's my feeling on the subject -
IF your vet can actually see a fragment or chip floating about then
surgery may be successful. The most successful surgery comes from
arthroscopic procedures rather than conventional slash and tear surgery.
It does the least damage to surrounding tissue. 
IF your vet can not see anything the I would wait on the surgery.
IF your pup is negatively affected - meaning, he seems to be in pain and
limits his activity due to that pain then consider the surgery if
indicated
IF your pup limps but it never slows him down and the limp is mild then
let him be a dog and work it out. 
I don't know that there is a right answer. I do know that one of my dogs
that limped had surgery on one elbow and not the other. Both elbows gave
him problems til he died at 11 1/2 yrs. The other girl that had surgery
always limped. Neither had arthroscopic so that may have added to the
problems. I have not done any surgeries on my dogs nor have any been
done. All limping problems seem to have worked themselves out over time. 

Susan Ablon
Gweebarra BMD
Balch Springs, Tx
http://www.pageweb.com/gwebara




Re: Missing Link

2002-12-16 Thread Annes4
In a message dated 12/16/2002 1:29:40 PM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone have any experience using Missing Link food supplement? 

I have been using Missing Link for Flash for somewhat over a year now and he 
loves it!  It was recommended to me by a vet because Flash is quite prone to 
developing hot spots.  While it took quite a while for its full effect to be 
seen, this was the first year since 1996 he did not have a full blown hot 
spot in the fall, even though he has been sitting in fallen leaves.  He had a 
few scabby spots under his fur but they never turned into the typical wet, 
raw sores he has developed in the past.  At 8 + years of age, his coat is 
nice and his body condition pretty good for a couch potato G.  I just had a 
blood panel done on him as he is having surgery tomorrow to remove some skin 
lumps (fingers crossed that they are nothing) and all his values are normal 
for him.

Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC (Berner, 8 1/2 yrs.)  Gypsy TDI/CGC(Rescue 
Cavalier,1 3/4 yr.)
NE ILL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ty's memorial page: http://www.geocities.com/workingyorkie/ty.html
Gypsy's page:http://hometown.aol.com/annes4/Gypsy.html




Re: BERNER-L digest 4183

2002-12-16 Thread DOCKITE
PREPlease remove me from the email list.