Re: Histio Roll Call
Dear Jean, What an absolutely gorgeous site. You have really out done yourself. It is obvious that you produced this site with all the love, care and concern that is in your heart for all of these Fallen Heroes. I am sure that I am not the only one who views it with tears present when we see just how devastating this horrendous disease is. It will be a site that I am sure will be visited often and over and over again. As part of the natural grieving process it is also beneficial for those directly involved to have a place to go and remember, visualize and focus on their precious companions, whether it be a recent loss or a loss long ago. Also, I so appreciate your page that you set up for Stevie's tribute on your Friends pages. I actually go there often as well. It serves as a reminder for me as to just how fortunate I am to still have my sweet Stevie here with me and how lucky I am to be so well supported by so many. Stevie's story touched so many and it is indeed lovely to share it with others. Thank you so very much. Big hugs and gentle kisses from Karen and Stevie
Poopy story
Okay , if you're the least bit offended by excrement stories , delete now ! We had a goofy thread on the L a year or so ago relating the way some of our dogs poop. I believe someone said the trailing method was Hawiian Island , LOL ! Well , I have a snow poop anecdote :-). As most of the U.S. knows , the East Coast got slammed last week by a big snow storm. We got 2 feet ! Then it sort of melted and then got rained on , so of course it's all frozen again. Our dear Hannah is rather offended by her downloads (except for a snack, gross dog) and is very fastidious about getting any on her. Well , she went out tonight and decided she was going to use the snow drifts as the ladies room. (we DID shovel a spot for the dogs) She slipped and slid across the top and managed to stop just long enough to start the process. Then she started slowly sliding down the ice. She was HORRIFIED !! Since she didn't want to get any on her , she was trying her best to stay ahead of the pile. To watch my dog sliding down the hill , keeping away from her poop , looking back constantly to see if it was chasing her , was absolutely priceless !!! I wish I had the video camera out , HAHA !! Laurie Montoya w/ Horrified Hannah (I LOVE this nutty dog)
RE: Histio Roll Call and eating plants
Hi Jill, Can't help you with the plant issue! BUT I do have something to say about you thinking he knew he was in the wrong:-) His slinking off into the other room was his reaction to your angry outburst, he did not make the connection between eating the plant and dirtying up the new couch with your mood. He just thought she's having a looney moment and scaring me and I'm outta here Unless you actually catch them in the act and reprimand within a milli second the moment is lost. Oftentimes petowners will walk in the door to some disaster and react in a negative if not angry manner and the dog reacts to that. Guilt is not in the equation, if a bored dog continues to do things and the owner continues to react in a loud or hostile manner the dog will associate the homecoming with this unpleasant person and will continue to slink away at which point the owner starts to think the dog has a behavioural problem when in fact its the owner. Its only a plant and a dirty couch:-) If he continues to amuse himself then you must busy up his life with work before you go out for the day:-) Rose T.
vacuum
Yup, I vacuum my dog, Lolita (Great Pyr - traveling salesman mix) and cat, Jesse (angora fur bag) - our Berner we had, Annabelle would lay on her back with all fours in the air so I could vacuum her tummy. My question - does anyone make an attachment - brush - like or comb-like that is meant to use to get the dead fur out? And... if it's made - does it work? I would like to know.
RE: vacuums
the best vacuum for berner hair, allergy control, and overall cleaning air freshening is the Rainbow by Rexair...all dirt, dust, dander, hair and pollen are filtered through a water tank -- you would not believe how great your house smells after using this vacuum... we have off-white berber carpet throughout the house and a berner and a black lab who live indoors...the Rainbow keeps the carpet looking smelling great! expensive ($1200 - $1500), but worth it and they last about 30 years! and they will save you on doctor bills since allergies are so much better... here's a link -- you can't buy them in stores. http://www.rainbowsystem.com/index.html Jennifer, Mabel (lab) and Rex (berner -- and no he's not named after the vacuum--LOL) -Original Message- From: david sandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:00 PM To: Rhona Vantine; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: vacuums Our current girl, Charisma comes running over when Paula brings out the vacuum. She makes it difficult to vacuum the house, since she is right in front of the attachment, waiting for more suction! Our last girl, Eureka! also loved the vacuum. The strange part was that our black cat, Goblin, would fight Eureka! for the vacuum's attention! Go figure. David Paula Sander and Charisma .- Original Message - From: Rhona Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:44 AM Subject: vacuums Does anyone else vacuum their dog? I did Louis on Sunday, he lay on his side and then rolled over for his tummy to be done! It just seemed a natural progression from doing the stairs to doing the dog at the bottom of the stairs! :) Rhona and Louis who was 2 years old on Sunday __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
re:musings of things lost and fortunately found
I had a similar experience last week and can emphasize the need for an I.D. tag. Han and I have been traveling between Gainesville Fl and Atlanta on a much too regular basis helping my mother move to the other side of town. I had misplaced Han's rabies tag, and he had just been microchipped (not registered yet) but I had ordered an ID tag with both home and cell numbers on it and had just installed it on his collar before the last trip. The new house has a tiny stretch of dirt in back surrounded by walls and fence and I had let him out there while I enjoyed a second cup of coffee (I had put him there before but didn't realize that the termite inspectors had not secured the gate). My peace was interrupted by a signal that I had voice mail and my heart stopped when a voice said I have your dog Han, he was at my front door. He was right down the street in a small kennel (Mom I was locked up!!) but it could have been so much worse. She lives near some very busy streets. Thank goodness that my numbers were right there easy to read and the neighbor was nice enough to take the trouble to shut up Han and call me (they have dachunds). Beverly Arnold Gainesville Fl
Questionnaire
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Re: Sterling is 9
Mary, Thanks for sharing my joy for Sterling's 9th birthday and his continued health. It has been an honor these past 5 years to care for him, be responsible for his upkeep and vet care. and to give you your girl Valentine as a gift. What is her full name? Her name is Swiss Stars Bern-Heart and she is also a joy as she is Sterling's daughter, a stud fee puppy. I had high hopes for her, a Versatility dog. It was so disappointing when her OFA results came back with a dysplastic elbow (degenerative joint disease.) Although she can't run without pain, she is the perfect couch potato. With accupuncture and meds she's doing well. She's my wonderful little Swiss Miss, no matter her elbows. Her litter back agreement could not be fulfilled as it turned out she had cysts on her ovaries. I was quite naive 7 years ago and would not enter into such a contract now. Guess I shouldn't be surprised though, I've always known Bobbie to be a very generous person. : ) How good that you have found a mutually beneficial partnership in your breeding efforts. Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA Thanks for being 'Bernerly.' I'll be happy to share how Sterling is doing, should anyone inquire. Marjie
Vacuums
Dear Rhona, Morgan loves to be vacuumed. It has been suggested by others that it should be a stupid pet trick on Letterman. I started out trying to cut down on ticks, fleas and hair and now she really loves it and comes running. I use an Electrolux canister with no attachments. Bonnie Brown
Copper Cookie Cutters and Oz. Cha.
I am desperately trying to locate Bernese cookie cutters to make dog biscuits for the dogs at our draft test in April. Would be better than doing Easter bunny ones. Anyone have any leads. Would appreciate it please. You can email me privately My cousin in Oz sent me a picture on the cover of Qld. Dog World.this month. It is Bernese Australian Ch. Zeigen Impashioned Prince. If anyone wants a look at him just email me privately please. Coral.
Re: Elbows
In a message dated 2/26/2003 8:15:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please advise the breeders of affected dogs and where possible the stud owner as well. I'd second that (along with the rest of Rose's excellent post!), but add the request to please enter the data in BernerGarde, and if possible...OFA's Open Registry. Also, for pain mediation...consider acupunture in addition to the supplements and NSAIDs. -Sherri Venditti
Re: Sterling is 9
It has been an honor these past 5 years to care for him, be responsible for his upkeep and vet care. I think as dog owners we all accept these responsibilities willingly. It is easier on the pocketbook though when the dog you accept from someone is already an adult, has had all health certs. done, and a AKC Championship in addition. When you took him into your home and heart did you believe that in addition to him coming at no cost, all his health care, dog food, and upkeep would be paid, for the rest of his life? She's my wonderful little Swiss Miss, no matter her elbows. Her litter back agreement could not be fulfilled as it turned out she had cysts on her ovaries. I was quite naive 7 years ago and would not enter into such a contract now. Again, if the dog was given to you for nothing, in a breed where HD and ED are almost a 40/60 chance I think you came out pretty good. No, she can't have puppies, but a lot of people pay full price for puppies with high hopes of breeding only to find out that the hips, elbows, eyes, teeth, or other things do not pass. If they do pass, and are bred, and if they do get pregnant, a c-section for a litter of 2 dead puppies, or a bitch that dies as a result of the pregnancy can be a real heart breaker. I think I'd be happy that both my dogs are alive at 7 - 9 years of age and I had been given at least a $3000.00 credit (2 x $1500.00 purchase price.) toward their care upkeep. I still think that was pretty generous. As far as Bobbie I , we've never had any sort of partnership. I have used some of her males in the past for breeding. I've never had to sign a stud contract. She let me know up front what the terms were, and nothing ever changed. I've never purchased a puppy from her, she has never purchased one from me. I do co-own a male with Bobbie, he lives here with me. I paid nothing for him. Bobbie has only used him at stud 2 times in 3 years. I gladly pay his upkeep expenses and Jeff I are very grateful to have him to enjoy in our lives, a nd sleeping on our bed nightly. If heaven forbid he came down with cancer and died tomorrow I would not be mad at Bobbie. Where is the sense in that? I would still be grateful for the time I was given with this beautiful guy. Question to all listers: If a breeder gave you a puppy free of charge, and it came up with health issues later on, would you feel that the breeder should be responsible to pay all the health costs? Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners http://snobear.freeyellow.com California, USA
Re: Sterling is 9
In a message dated 2/26/2003 2:30:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question to all listers: If a breeder gave you a puppy free of charge, and it came up with health issues later on, would you feel that the breeder should be responsible to pay all the health costs? This sounds to me like a question with so many variables that one couldn't possibly explore it thoroughly enough in this venue to comment intelligently. ~ Sherri Venditti
A free lunch.....err puppy!
Hi Sherri, I disagree. If someone offered to give you a house, free of charge and you looked at the house and said, yes! I'll take it!! Then, 4 years down the road after you'd enjoyed the home, part of the roof blew off and caused water damage inside, would you go back to the person who gave you the house and demand they pay for everything? What about a car? Someone gives you a nice car free of charge. A year later the engine blows up, after thousands of miles of carefree driving. Do you expect the gift giver to pay for repairs? So, now we talk about a puppy. You go to a breeder's house. You see a puppy you like, they say, Here, you can have her, free of charge. you say, Oh my goodness! Thank you! You take the puppy home, raise it up, and at age 3 years old the puppy comes up with lets say kidney failure. Do you then call the breeder and ask them to pay for medical costs? Sherri, I think in today's world too many people expect someone else to pay the dues for things they have fully accepted responsibility for. It's all good if you are given something and never have problems and enjoy the gift, but if the gift that you accepted, because Wow!!! I can't believe I don't have to pay for it! is an animal dog, cat, horse, pig, etc. and it comes down with a medical condition that may cost you some then the person who gave you the gift IE: breeder, should now also on top of giving you the animal, pay for it's health costs?? I say, If you don't want the responsibility of the animal, or unforeseen future medical costs, don't take the gift. If you do take the gift and are unhappy paying for vet bills, food, etc. For goodness sake, give it back! Why do people in today's world feel that the world owes them? Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com
Re: Sterling is 9
NO ! I don't think that would be very fair to the breeder. You take a dog into your home , you're responsible after that. If my daughter came up with a health problem , I sure wouldn't ask the powers that be to pay for it ! However , I think the breeder should be upfront about any KNOWN health issues in the lines. And that goes no matter if you paid for the dog or not. No flames , please , I answered this question in good faith :-). Laurie Montoya w/Horrified, Sliding Hannah S. Central PA Question to all listers: If a breeder gave you a puppy free of charge, and it came up with health issues later on, would you feel that the breeder should be responsible to pay all the health costs? Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners http://snobear.freeyellow.com California, USA
berner-garde form
i just got a berner garde form. i must say i have not been so confused in a long time. do i fill in the details for my dogs. i did not even know it had to be returned until i went to file it and saw the second side. are others as confused? andrea
Brag -- sort of...
Tomorrow I leave for Arizona where Maize will be competing in a 4 day agility trial. I was all set to earn that last OA leg, and mentioned this to Kris Osojnicki. Well, Kris does the agility records and just called to tell me that Maize already has three OA legs!!! So Maize earned her OA in Denver a couple of weeks ago (along with her NAJ) and I did not even know it. How dumb is that?? (Don't answer!) In my defense, the other legs were earned last fall before Abra's litter so I have had a lot going on but still... Thank goodness Kris is keeping track of my dogs' agility titles!!! So my brag is that Maize earned her OA today even though we weren't even in a trial. Guess we will be moving up to Excellent in Arizona -- not sure if I thank Kris for that ;) Mary-Ann Bowman U-CD Emma, CDX, DD, CGC, retired Abra, VCD1*, OA, CDX, DD, CGC Maize, VCD1, OA, DD, CGC Halo, 4 months *VCD1=CD, TD, NA, NAJ
door bells
Does anyone know where I can get bells to hang from my door knobs? My girl Sallie has a bad habit of scratching the door to go out or come in. I can't seem to train her to bark, like her brother Jackson, but I think she'd easily learn to ring the bell! A catalog or online site would be best. Thank you, Kendra, Jackson, and Sallie
Re: door bells
Hi Kendra, Here is the address of a website that sells Swiss Bells etc. http://www.shopswiss.com/26.html On other sites, without the straps, these bells run about $4.00 less. Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com
Re: writing
Dear List, I think Rhona's idea is a grand one! But since we are both relatively new listers we would need to know if this subject has ever been broached before. I have been approached by several individuals about writing the Stevie Saga for a couple of publications and I would be very pleased to donate his story. Could someone please let us know if this is a possibility. I have begun the story but as some of you may have realized from many of my previous postings, I tend to write epistles. It is difficult for me to write Readers Digest Condensed versions, mainly because I have so much to say and write, but I am working at it. Stevie has had a bit of a rough day, he has had several bouts of vomiting (mostly bile) today and has been a bit more unsteady on his feet. He has slept away most of the day. He has a vets appointment on Friday and hopefully but hopefully he will show some improvement before then. I will keep you posted as to any further developments for those who are interested. Berner hugs and gentle kisses from Karen and Stevie - Original Message - From: Rhona Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: writing I've only been reading the List since last August so not sure if this idea has been approached before but I thought this morning what a wonderful idea it would be to capture some of the stories people send in about their Berners . and get them printed! All proceeds to go to a Berner cause! It would be wonderfully informative, have gorgeous pictures and of course be a bestseller!!! Any thoughts on this??? Rhona (English) and Louis (Belgian) in The Netherlands __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Repost - Histio Roll Call and eating plants
Sorry, I am reposting this item in plaintext. I've had a few people point out that most likely Benny didn't know what he did - or even that he was the one who did something, but only that he didn't like me yelling and grumbling. Thanks for that insight - I can see in retrospect that he was having the same reaction he's always had to any arguement or loud noises in our house - which is usually a reminder to us to chill out or calm down. I guess it was just wishful thinking to think that he could read my mind. Also, some suggestions were made re keeping him occupied. He does have lots of toys, kongs, and balls that he plays with often. He was fine today - so maybe this is just one of those bad days he had. (Of course today - he was barely only for any time since I went in very late and with school getting out early for more snow!) Jill Kramer - and Benny (who was quicklky back in my good favor - I can't be made at that face for very long at all) Baltimore, MD - Original Message - From: Jill To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Histio Roll Call and eating plants Wow, Jean! You should have included a kleenex warning with your posting of this site. What a beautiful site and what beautiful dogs and tributes! I was moved to tears and I'm sure others will be too. On another topic, if I HAD a dog house, Benny would be in it tonight. Today, I came home from work to find that Benny had eaten a small plant on the windowsill behind my new (a couple months old) expensive couch and pulled the remaining pot of dirt and the bare stalk of a plant down onto the couch. My first worry was (besides my couch) that the plant was poisonous. I'm embarrassed to say that I have no idea what type of plant this was (I don't have a green thumb and it was a gift.) and it seems almost impossible to track without leaves. I know it wasn't the ones I am positive of being poisonous (like poinsettas) because I know better and would never have one of those, but I remember a pretty long list posted not too long ago of non-edible plants for dogs. Can I assume if he's had no reaction yet that he's ok? It had to be before 3:45 pm that he did this and it's 10:30 pm now. He seems absolutely fine, so I hate to take him to the emergency vet. How long do you think I need to keep a close eye on him in case of some reaction? Second, though I cannot believe he did this. He's had a few episodes where he's eaten things he shouldn't have - a doll, a stuffed animal, cookies, etc. But, that plant has been in the same spot for 2 years and he's often been staying inside all day with the run of the house for a couple years now without getting into ANY trouble during the day (the other incidents occurred when someone accidently left something on the floor or right under his nose at night while we slept - it was always obvious why he thought he could eat the item when we thought about it). What made him suddenly eat the plant? Could he be sick? Could he have cabin fever due to not having the space to run in the yard due to the snow? When I reacted loudly and in shock, he definitely seemed to know right away that he was the one who had done something wrong - he ran into the other room very quickly, slinking low to the ground and looking ashamed. He does know that on top of that couch is the only place in the house where he's not allowed. We do have another couch that he's free to lay on - and he knows that, too. Also, there are certainly other plants he can easily reach - should I be moving them out of his reach (as if there's anywhere in the house that's really out of his reach)? I'll be doing a search on archives to find that list and triple checking to be sure none I have are poisonous (even though I THOUGHT I'd given it a cursory check before when I first saw the list). Any other ideas/advice? Jill Kramer and Benny (3 years old) Baltimore, MD
Re: door bells
Here is another site that sells bells... http://www.alpenschatz.com/bells.htm : ) This one has some really nice things and cute stuffy Berners too! Thank you for sharing the link. : ) Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners California, USA
Re: Copper Cookie Cutters and Oz. Cha.
Hi Coral, I got wonderful Berner cookie cutters from Patt Wiegand.Here is her web site http://www.canterbury-tails.com Patt has a lot of great Berner things. This is the site for the cookie cutters: http://www.canterbury-tails.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGYStore_Cod e=cantailsCategory_Code=CC Joye Neff and Nick (Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
Re: writing
What a wonderful idea! We should all put our stuff together and write a book! We could have a whole chapter on poop. sara - Original Message - From: Rhona Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: writing I've only been reading the List since last August so not sure if this idea has been approached before but I thought this morning what a wonderful idea it would be to capture some of the stories people send in about their Berners . and get them printed! All proceeds to go to a Berner cause! It would be wonderfully informative, have gorgeous pictures and of course be a bestseller!!! Any thoughts on this??? Rhona (English) and Louis (Belgian) in The Netherlands __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
