Re: Pet Insurance
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Re: Pet Insurance
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Re: Pet Insurance
ARGH! How true!! I am having SUCH an ongoing headache with Veterinary Pet Insurance! We bought a policy for Zeus when he was 7 weeks old (he will be 2 this month), and have only just recently had cause to file a claim. On November 1, Zeus cut his paw wide open while running and required many stitches, x-rays (etc.) and extensive follow-up. My vet faxed the requested paperwork to VPI and they said they didn't receive it.my vet faxed it again.VPI said they didn't receive itwe mailed it certified AND faxed itVPI finally received it. By now was months later, and now, just TWO DAYS AGO I've received a check for $72.60 reimbursement for a total $829.85 Vet bill!! ARGH Obviously I will be fighting that one. Now he just tore his knee cap out, and I just can't wait to see what they will have to say about THAT.. Antoinette Zeus San Ramon, Ca. As Shakespeare would say, Ah, there's the rub! What is a good one? If your dog has serious problems that the company can claim is genetic or congenital (in their mind they are the same, even though we and the vets know they are not!) the treatment will not be covered, no matter how long you have been a client or how much you paid for the policy or how many independent veterinary specialists challenge the denial of coverage. That eliminates all surgery or treatment due to arthritis, dysplasias and spondylosis. They consider all of those to have a genetic or congenital origin. It does appear from previous emails to the list that our Canadian members have a much better selection of companies or coverage than we do in the States. Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDI, 8 11/12 yrs. old Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yr. old Cavalier) Northern Illinois Annes4, Corr. Sec. BMDCA If one will begin with certainties, one will end in doubts; however if one were content to begin with doubts, one will end in certainties. Sir Francis Bacon
RE: Dogs call names
We were not sure about how to choose a call name for Zeus, because the breeder had not yet given the litter a name (such as the P litter, etc.). Because my daughter is such an avid fan of mythology, she was pushing for Zeus. I was pushing for Romeo, my (then) 5 year old son was pushing for Pokemon, and my husband - looking at this 20 pound furry butterball - was pushing My God how big is this puppy going to GET??? The breeder eventually settled on the Summer litter, and his registered name is Sunshine's Summer Olympiad. His call name is Zeus, which turned out to be very fitting in a comical way. He is the biggest, most docile guy ever. Zeus is happiest when stretched out on the bed or couch, which we have labeled Mount Olympus, home of Zeus (the Moose) But he's still MY sweet Romeo. Antoinette sweet Zeus San Ramon, Ca.
Re: neutering and marking
Zeus was neutered when he turned 6 months (what a birthday gift, eh?), and I also had hip and elbow x-rays taken at the same time, since he was already medicated and out of it. Regarding marking, my big boy Zeus, now 17 months old, still doesn't lift his leg. When he needs to go, he just moves his back paws further apart and sprays straight down. He has still NEVER done his business, either one, away from home. When/if he feels the urge during one of our long daily walks, he will hold iteven if he has to waddle with a worried expression...until he gets home and back to his own spot in the back yard. I'm interested to see what he will do when we go up north for a week later this month. We will be staying in a cottage on 5 private acresdo you think he can hold it that long? ;) Antoinette (camel bladder) Zeus San Ramon, Ca. (near San Francisco) -- Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 17:05:14 -0800 Subject: Re: neutering and marking Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Willemijn Beurskens-Ilcisin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Logan was neutered just before 6 months and started leg lifting at about 18 months. He still does not really know what he needs to do - he lifts his leg and half he time does not pee. If he really needs to go he squats... Will Ilcisin and Logan
Re: berner pup or baby - which should come first???
While I completely agree with Janice, my logic was reversed the temperament of the dog has a lot to do with the acceptance of a new child. While my daughter (now 10 and an aspiring Vet) would have been absolutely fine with a puppy/young dog from the very beginning, my son is something else entirely! Because I already had little ones, I held off on getting a beloved berner because of the temperment of my SON, not the dog. My son was close to 5 before I brought Zeus home. They are completely attached and adore each other, but had I added Zeus at an earlier age, my SON would have - due to his being a healthy and exhuberent little boy - harassed the DOG. I watched my son chase the cat, in spite of being put in constant time-outs, constantly while he was a toddler. That combined with a mouthy puppy is not a good mix! Now that my son is 6, he limits his harassment to his older sister and is always gentle and loving with Zeus. Gee, I guess it's time to have another one! dog! another DOG! Antoinette (the only furchild) Zeus San Ramon, Ca. -- Message-ID: 00fa01c29e55$46dafa40$98cc5b18@OFFICE From: Janice Parky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Berner List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: berner pup or baby - which should come first??? Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:01:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kerry- I think the answer to your question is a very individual one. Hopefully the advice you get will help you and your husband decide what will work for you. For me, personally, it was baby first. It was also a looong time ago. I waited until my first child was 2 years old to add a dog to the family. I believe, and I'm sure some will disagree, that it is easier to add a dog to a family with a small child, than a small child to a family with a dog. Of course, the temperament of the dog has a lot to do with the acceptance of a new child. If you decide dog first, find a breeder who will help you find a pup that they feel will do well when baby arrives. I believe very stongly, that dogs raised with children have a better chance of learning child-tolerance and respect than a dog that has not and then is asked to accept another pack member. I also have know of two beloved family dogs-one rehomed, one euthanized because of it's intolerence of the new child. It is also important that you and you husband, as parents of both the pup and child realize that it is your job to make it work. Small children need constant vigilence amd training around puppies, as puppies and older dogs need socialization, training and viglience around small children. I would also not advise, which ever first happens, that you wait until you are confident you can handle the other. As for the ticking clock, both scenarios will be exhausting. Sorry.G. Of course, you also have no idea of what Mother Nature and the ticking clock will decide, so eventually that may need to be factored in as well Janice Parky Cape Cod, MA.
Fundraiser donation, still time?
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Talking Berners
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Subject: Re: leash training
All of this talk about leash training, or more specifically, whether or not our berners need to exercise freely off leash couldn't have come at a moreironic...time. We have a large backyard that is slightly broken into segments. There is a large grass area, patios and, beyond all of this (behind the gates) is a forested creek. Many OLD oak trees throughout the entire property. Dog nirvana, you think? Well, the wood fences on either side of our property are extremely old and are only standing because of the thick row of shrubs bracing it. Because of this Zeus is clipped to the end of a long tether line, so he cannot leave our property through the fence. To make a long story short, I've always felt so guilty about this tether, thoroughly convinced that he needs FREEDOM to run and play without being attached to anything. So, I finally became serious (after seeing that constantly nagging hubby wasn't gonna do it) and decided to fix the damn fences myself. All of them. This decision inspired me and I announced to everyone that I was not only going to fix the fence THAT SOMEONE ELSE WHO LIVES HERE SHOULD FIX BUT HASN'T AND BETTER BE FEELING GUILTY CUZ THIS IS HIS LAST CHANCE TO STEP IN AND BE A DOMESTIC HERO (he didn't), I was going to make the entire yard Air Tight! Zeus would have absolute freedom to go anywhere his little heart desired, so long as it stayed on Sufi ground. After carefully measuring (with a leashed Zeus excitedly by my side) and budgeting, I made multiple trips to carry boards, beams, and bags of Home Depot goodies home. After spending WHO KNOWS how many hours out there nailing, bracing, cutting (had to get through all the shrubs just to get to what was left of the fences), stringing water misters all along the length of both (Zeus will need something to cool him off since he's going to be speeding through all this, right?), finally I was done. I was so excited to set Zeus free! That was a week ago. He still prefers the couch. Every day, at least a million times, I lead him out on his leash, chirping HAPPY SEE, ZEUS? SEE? and throw toys for him in a HAPPY frenzy. He will run after a toy, up go my hopes, only to grab his favourite one and race back into the house. On the couch. Currently there are treaties thrown randomly throughout the yard to encourage grazing, maybe lure him further out. The cats, squirrels and raccoons love them. The one who's loving this the most? My husband SO, this debate about free range berners, combined with my recent experiences ( expenses) has taught me that some berners are probably very happy receiving their exercise on the leash (hello, Zeus), while others seek more freedom of movement.. Living and learning in the Bay Area, Antoinette Zeus the (very lazy) Moose
