Re: BERNER-L - time to take drastic measures

2003-09-04 Thread Bernersrit
Always hard to say goodbye to old friends.  Thanks to everyone at Prairienet 
who kept us online all those years.

Yahoogroups has its problems, but looks like those of us that use AOL can 
finally upgrade (geesh, I'm still running 5.0) since we won't have to worry about 
html posts.  Also, the archive search at yahoo is good so you can go back and 
find posts you may want to read again fairly easily.

Thanks Pat and team for your continuing efforts to keep us together.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD



Puppy in Annapolis Pet Store

2003-09-03 Thread Bernersrit
A friend was able to check out the Annapolis mall pet store.  Look at that 
price!  If anyone wants the name of the breeder, e-mail me privately.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD

Your sources were correct, they had a poor leggy Berner puppy in the pet 
store.  He looked very sad  not in the best of health.  He definitely had 
Berner markings, but he had a very awkward looking head  some very long 
legs.

They were asking $2395 for him  someone had already put a deposit on him.

He came from a breeder in Fairview, Missouri.



Re: carting clinic

2003-08-31 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 8/31/2003 6:27:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yes the carting clinic is on Oct 12 at Jerry and Nan Pixtons home in
 Strasburg Va.
 This is the 4th time they are having it and our 3rd. I don't have all the
 information in front of me,  

The information about the PVBMDC Draft Workshop/Match is available on the 
Club's website at www.pvbmdc.org.  Go to the Calendar page and click on the link. 
 Just got it up this morning.

Carol Lingley
PVBMDC Web Editor



Re: Virus Warning W32.SoBig.F@MM

2003-08-20 Thread Bernersrit
And a similiar message was posted with my address this morning, but I've just 
completed a scan and we're clean.  We run McAfee and it's been updating as 
much as twice a day for the past week.  

Please take the time to scan your computers, everyone.  

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD

In a message dated 8/19/2003 10:07:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 A new virus is making the round and it appears that a
 lot of people are infected. 
 
 I've have been getting swamped with email infected
 with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] worm. I have seen one copy
 that has gone to Bernese list. One message was
 addressed from Pat Long (although I'm sure Pat didn't
 send it).  The virus fakes the senders address.
  



VetGen vWD Clinic

2003-03-21 Thread Bernersrit
Here's information on another clinic for DNA testing for vWD.  Cost is $41 
discounted over individual test kits -- $99 vs $140.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD

The Pembroke Welsh Corgi Club of the Potomac is having a vWD clinic in
conjunction with our specialty April 17th-18th.
http://www.infodog.com/prm/1118/prm1118.htm

The clinic is open from March 25th-April 25th.
The deadline for ordering on the RSVP page is April 2nd, however you can
send it directly to me by April 25th or give it to me at the specialty.

I will be sending the order FedEx to VetGen on April 26th.
Make checks payable to PWCCP $99.00 per kit.

We need a minimum order of 25 kits in order to get the discounted price.
There has been a lot of interest so I don't think this will be a problem.
If by chance we don't make the minimum, we will return everyone's money on
April 26th.

VetGen will send the kit(s) directly to you.
You swab your dog and send it back to them.
They send you the results.
We are getting the discount for ordering a minimum of 25 kits at one time.
There is no time limit for when you use the kits.

The clinic is open to any breed currently being DNA tested by VetGen for vWD; 
Bernese Mountain Dog, Doberman Pinscher, Kerry Blue Terrier, Manchester 
terrier, Papillon, Pembroke Welsh Corgi, Poodle, Scottish Terrier and 
Shetland Sheepdog.

You may contact me with questions at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OK to post this message to other lists.

PWCCP Public Education Coordinator
Kathy Hash
532 East Mountain Road
Knoxville MD 21758



Re: MH Questions

2003-03-02 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 3/2/2003 12:45:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How many Berners are diagnosed with MH just on a vet's best guess and not
 confirmed with
 testing supporting this guess? 

Good point, Cathy.  When Arrow died at 22 months we pursued pathology through 
Antech, DOD's Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, the University of 
Wisconsin and UCDavis.  Before he died tissue was sent to UPA.  The U of WI 
found histio in his lung tissue, but could not be definite about the eye.  
UCDavis, the last to receive tissue samples, said the eye was a beautiful 
specimen of MH.  All the other labs could not name the disease.

When our 5 1/2 year old Stretch became seriously ill with thrombocyptopenia 
in the fall, I was convinced he had MH and almost lost hope.  Fortunately the 
vets didn't give up and he has recovered completely.  Obviously not MH, but 
had he died it would have taken a lot of convincing for me to believe it was 
anything but.  

What you don't know, you don't know.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD



Pennsauken Shows

2003-01-18 Thread Bernersrit
Anyone have the results?

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Re: Suckling Pup

2003-01-14 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 1/13/2003 10:11:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a 2 year old BARC rescue dog who has to suck on a pillow to fall
 asleep.  He is about 100 pounds and the bigger the pillow the better.  I
 have tried to figure out why he does this.  He was taken away from his mum
 at about 3 weeks. (!)   

I've had two from two different litters develop the habit of sucking on their 
toys and getting that we're in la-la land expression.  Both were with their 
moms and littermates for at least eight weeks, so I don't think it comes from 
early separation.

Maybe it's just a form of thumb sucking that comforts them.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Thankfully, a Very Merry Christmas

2002-12-25 Thread Bernersrit
We have been doubly blessed this Christmas with the presence (presents!) of 
our Santera Lillehammer, CD who turned nine this Christmas morning, and our 5 
1/2 year old Stretch (Caroling's Octave Above).   Lille was diagnosed with 
adeno carcinoma last December and had a second surgery in March for a 
metastasized tumor.  I call her my quintessential Berner, so am not surprised 
that she has given us the full measure of the Swiss saying.  Bonus years will 
be much appreciated, but we feel ever so lucky to have her with us today.

Stretch was very close to leaving us in October with what has turned out to 
be idiopathic thrombocytopenia.  He's made it through some pretty tough 
times, including a splenectomy, but he is looking great and has his full 
energy back.  He continues on immunosuppressants, but his dose has been 
halved and his bloodwork is looking great.  He is our Miracle Man!

To all of you, our best wishes for a Happy Christmas  Bernerful New Year.  
Enjoy the presence of all your dogs!

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Re: Ehrlichiosis

2002-11-29 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/29/2002 8:54:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I know here in the states there is a new test kit that tests for both 
Ehrlichiosis  Heartworm  called SNAP  not sure what the accronym stands 
for. 

I recently had a very sick Berner boy whose SNAP came back high positive for 
Lyme when he first entered emergency care.  His symptoms were more like 
Ehrlichiosis, bleeding gums, high liver enzymes, etc.  Blood was sent to NCSU 
for full titers which all came back negative.  Took about a week for the 
results.  The doxycycline treatment didn't hurt him, but fortunately the ER 
vets were thorough and continued to search for the cause of his illness which 
at best guess at this point is a bacterial infection.  

In the future I will treat if the SNAP is positive and the dog responds 
quickly to the doxy, but if I get repeated positives and don't have a 
symptomatic dog, I may invest in the full titer, and based on the 
recommendation of the ER vets, NCSU has the most reliable results.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Looking for VetGen vWD Clinic

2002-11-27 Thread Bernersrit
Anyone have a vWD clinic running or coming up?  Someone asked me about it at 
the show the other day.  Just missed one that closed in FL.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Re: Berners Horses

2002-11-25 Thread Bernersrit
 I began to wonder how many Berner folks were also horse people?  How about 
a
 new poll? Name your horse and riding style  

Gave up my English pleasure mare, Caprice, when I got married about a zillion 
years ago.  I occasionally remind my husband that I'm still not quite sure 
about that trade.  Ü

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Philadelphia Show on NBC Thanksgiving

2002-11-23 Thread Bernersrit
The National Dog Show Presented by Purina®, which spotlights the KCP's 
conformation judging as the centerpiece of a celebration of the world of 
canines in a multi-faceted look at America's most beloved pets. This two-hour 
family special, hosted by John O'Hurley of Seinfeld fame, will be broadcast 
on NBC10 at noon on Thanksgiving Day, November 28, immediately following live 
coverage of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. 

You can get more details at www.purina.com, www.Philadogshow.com or 
www.NBC10.com/dogshow

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Re: cancer roll call celebrating seniors

2002-11-20 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/20/2002 9:45:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why is that?  Is it a no-no to mention kennel names when
 dealing with the dreaded diseases? 

Not for me.  I think it's just the way that list got started.  

Arrow (2/14/97 - 12/8/98) is Caroling's Pierced Arrow, bred by me, and so 
far, the only case of histio we've experienced.  Parents are in their ninth 
year, one littermate died at about the same time from improper medical care 
for an intestinal blockage from a foreign object, five other siblings alive 
and well at 5 years, 9 mos. and 3 years, 10 mos.

Nothing to hide when it comes to histio.  It's everywhere.

Carol Lingley
Caroling Bernese
Ijamsville, MD




Re: Berner-L Histio RollCall

2002-11-19 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/19/2002 4:09:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you're interested, add yours to the List.
 
 
 Hannibal, 7/29/88 - 5/23/93, loved by Pat Long, Berwyn PA
 
 Toby 6/29/97 - 6/30/00, loved by Sid  Liz Steinweg, Colorado 
 Springs CO
 
 Ria, 2/4/98 - ll/4/02, loved by Mary and Lou Norris, Manassas, VA
  

Arrow - 2/14/97 - 12/8/98, loved by Carol  Ken Lingley, Ijamsville, MD




Re: Berner home needed

2002-11-18 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/18/2002 4:58:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm trying to help a friend place an older Berner boy.  His owner (her
 sister) is dying, is in a nursing facility and Sam is currently being
 boarded at a vet clinic.  None of the family involved is able to take
 Sam and his situation is adding to their already substantial stress.
  

I just got an update from Nancy Jenkins on Sam last week and heard he was in 
a lovely home.  What happened?


Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Re: Female Incontenence

2002-11-17 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/17/2002 5:24:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We discussed age/spay related incontenence and she prescribed
 Proin.  My understanding that this is the same product (formerly names DES I
 believe)that was given to pregnant women years ago and whose daughters
 developed cancer. 

Proin is Phenylpropanolamine or PPA.  It is the drug that was in over the 
counter cold medicines and diet pills.  I believe Dexitrim was one of the 
popular diet ones.  PPA was pulled by the FDA a year or so ago for human 
consumption, as I recall because of some stroke consequences.  It has not 
been a problem in animals.  I remember we had difficulty obtaining it at the 
vets at the time because the market dried up quickly.

My spayed Irish Setter took it for years for incontinence under the name 
Propagest, and so did one of my Berner males who is plagued with post nasal 
drip.  It is an anti-histamine.  My vet told me I could use the Dexitrim 
pills if I ran out of the prescription.  Both of these dogs now do without 
any drugs.  The Irish turned 13 last Thursday and I'd rather not give her any 
more meds than necessary.  The boy isn't much different on the drug than off, 
so he's off.  

There is a hormone-type drug that can be given to spayed females for 
incontinence.  Perhaps it is the one with DES.  

You can read more about Phenylpropanolamine at 
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/ppa/default.htm.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD




Re: BERNER At Rockville Md Garage Collapse

2002-11-16 Thread Bernersrit
In a message dated 11/16/2002 11:07:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just saw CNN footage on the Rockville MD garage collapse.  In that
 footage, the cameraman/woman caught what looked to be a Berner running
 through the building debris as if he/she had been in a car an escaped in
 terror.  Does anyone know about this?
 Nancy Melone 

I haven't seen any of the tv coverage, but from the story in the Washington 
Post is appears this was an unfinished parking garage, so no one would have 
been parking there as yet.  They did have rescue dogs working last night 
trying to locate the one missing construction worker.

You can read the Washington Post story at 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62973-2002Nov16.html

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD (about 40 mins north of Rockville)




Re: Two young Berners needing homes (NOT)

2002-11-13 Thread Bernersrit

 In a message dated 11/13/2002 12:16:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi everyone,
  
  There are 2 Berner siblings, born in March 2002 needing new homes.  They 
  are currently being fostered for the Northern Virginia SPCA  can be seen 
at:
  Look at Max  Zoe at:  http://www.spcanova.org/
   
 
 As posted yesterday, the NOVA SPCA has requested that no one else call on 
these dogs.  They have been swamped with calls and have more people wanting 
them then they can interview.

Thanks,
 
 Carol Lingley
 Ijamsville, MD 




Re: Brother Sister Berners in NOVA Shelter

2002-11-12 Thread Bernersrit
Thanks to everyone who offered to help the two purebred BMDs in the Northern 
Virginia shelter.  They were rescued from a PA puppy mill, so that answers 
the questions about where are the breeders.

Here's a note from the shelter.  Please, no more calls.

Carol Lingley
Ijamsville, MD

Hi Carol,
 Thanks so much for this - but we are being
inundated with people wanting to adopt these
sweethearts. Could you please remove the note - or add
something that says we have enough interest. Thanks,
  Mary




Re: Brother Sister Purebred BMDs in No. VA shelter

2002-11-11 Thread Bernersrit
Another post from the volunteer the shelter.

In a message dated 11/11/2002 1:11:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks! These definately are Berners. Our humane
 investigators rescued them from a puppymill in
 Pennsylvania.
The boy is a big goofball at the moment (as 8 month
 old pups tend to me). The female is a little timid at
 the moment. Both are quick-learners and eager to
 please.
   Mary 


---BeginMessage---
Thanks! These definately are Berners. Our humane
investigators rescued them from a puppymill in
Pennsylvania.
   The boy is a big goofball at the moment (as 8 month
old pups tend to me). The female is a little timid at
the moment. Both are quick-learners and eager to
please.
  Mary

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 11/11/2002 11:04:30 AM Eastern
 Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I volunteer with the SPCA of Northern Virginia
 and we have 2 8 month old 
 Berners ready for adoption. I surfed onto your site
 and am wondering if you 
 could help us advertise these dog. Here are their
 photos and descriptions. 
 Thanks very much!
Mary 
 
 Mary -
 
 I will put links up immediately as well as call our
 Rescue Chair.  She tries 
 to maintain a list of folks interested in adopting
 Berners.  Fortunately, 
 purebred rescues are rare, but these definitely look
 like Berners.  
 
 Thank you so much for saving them.  
 
 Carol Lingley
 PVBMDC Web Editor


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Re: berner for a hospital visit in Virginia

2002-10-16 Thread Bernersrit

The same message came through the PVBMDC web site.  One of our members with a 
therapy dog has contacted this family in hopes of paying a visit.  

Driving around the beltway, however, has added risks these days with the 
sniper still on the loose.

Carol Lingley
PVBMDC Web Editor

n a message dated 10/16/2002 3:02:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I received the message below.  Can't really think of a place where it might
 be as well-received as by the folks here on the berner-l.
 
 Thanks to all.
 
 Hugh
 
  My husband and I have a 5.5 month old BMD who is wonderful!  We're
  having a great time with him and have shown photographs of him to my
  mother-in-law.  Unfortunately, my mother-in-law has had a rough summer