Re: [Bibdesk-users] Move from Dropbox to iCloud
Yes, you understand this correctly. Be aware though that after syncing between different computers the aliases probably won't work, so moving the file behind BibDesk may lose the link. Christiaan Op ma 12 okt. 2020 17:52 schreef Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users < bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net: > Hi everyone, > > I have a follow-up question to this discussion. > Following Christiaan’s explanations about how to best go about moving > files, am I understanding correctly that as long as *either* the relative > file path *or* the file identity is kept intact, BibDesk will correctly > be able to figure out what the string in Bdsk-File-1 points to? > If this is so, does that mean it is possible to have two separate > databases (i.e., .bib files plus folders with files) synced by a cloud > service and the two .bib files continuing to file files correctly in each > local directory? Since the relative paths will be the same? > So let’s say I have a .bib file in a folder X which auto-files pdfs in > subfolders of folder X, and folder X is synced to another computer and I > make sure the BibDesk auto-file settings on that computer are exactly the > same, and I also make sure that I never open both at the same time, will it > be able to correctly keep things in sync? > So that I could add entries to the .bib file with associated files on > either computer? > > Thanks > > Jan > > > > On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:21 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > > Are all of the directories on the same volume (dropbox, iCloud, and > database)? > > First make sure Dropbox has not replaced any file behind your back while > the database was open. Probbaly it is best to just freshly (re)open your > database in BibDesk, to make sure the aliases and relative paths are > updated. Then you can move the files (perhaps by moving the containing > folder) to the new location. Then check a bit whether BibDesk still finds > the files, and save the database. After that it is probably safest to close > and reopen the database again. > > If you want to move both the database AND the files together, keeping a > fixed relative path, you can also do the following. Close the database, and > just move both the files and the database (e.g. by moving the containing > folder). Then open the database, check a bit whether BibDesk finds the > files, and save the database. > > What is important is when you move you either keep the file identities > fixed (i.e. make sure you files are movemoved rather than copied, note that > moving between volumes is really a copy operation, and also that Dropbox > has a habit of copying files behind your back). Or you keep the relative > path fixed. And consolidate your changes afterwards by saving and reopening > the database. > > And of course you may have to udate your auto file settings. > > Christiaan > > On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:25, Simon Spiegel wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > for years I have been relying on a setup where BibDesk would autofill all > my publications to a Dropbox folder; this has worked well, but now my > Dropbox is reaching its capacity limits and I am considering to move > everything to iCloud where I still have much space left. > > Now the question is: Is there an easy and secure way to move the > autofilled files to a new place so that BibDesk will update all paths > correctly? Since we are talking about hundreds of files, it’s not something > which I can do by hand. The alternative would, of course, be to buy more > space for Dropbox. > > Thanks in advance > > > Simon > > > > > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Move from Dropbox to iCloud
Hi everyone, I have a follow-up question to this discussion. Following Christiaan’s explanations about how to best go about moving files, am I understanding correctly that as long as either the relative file path or the file identity is kept intact, BibDesk will correctly be able to figure out what the string in Bdsk-File-1 points to? If this is so, does that mean it is possible to have two separate databases (i.e., .bib files plus folders with files) synced by a cloud service and the two .bib files continuing to file files correctly in each local directory? Since the relative paths will be the same? So let’s say I have a .bib file in a folder X which auto-files pdfs in subfolders of folder X, and folder X is synced to another computer and I make sure the BibDesk auto-file settings on that computer are exactly the same, and I also make sure that I never open both at the same time, will it be able to correctly keep things in sync? So that I could add entries to the .bib file with associated files on either computer? Thanks Jan > On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:21 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > Are all of the directories on the same volume (dropbox, iCloud, and database)? > > First make sure Dropbox has not replaced any file behind your back while the > database was open. Probbaly it is best to just freshly (re)open your database > in BibDesk, to make sure the aliases and relative paths are updated. Then you > can move the files (perhaps by moving the containing folder) to the new > location. Then check a bit whether BibDesk still finds the files, and save > the database. After that it is probably safest to close and reopen the > database again. > > If you want to move both the database AND the files together, keeping a fixed > relative path, you can also do the following. Close the database, and just > move both the files and the database (e.g. by moving the containing folder). > Then open the database, check a bit whether BibDesk finds the files, and save > the database. > > What is important is when you move you either keep the file identities fixed > (i.e. make sure you files are movemoved rather than copied, note that moving > between volumes is really a copy operation, and also that Dropbox has a habit > of copying files behind your back). Or you keep the relative path fixed. And > consolidate your changes afterwards by saving and reopening the database. > > And of course you may have to udate your auto file settings. > > Christiaan > >> On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:25, Simon Spiegel wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> for years I have been relying on a setup where BibDesk would autofill all my >> publications to a Dropbox folder; this has worked well, but now my Dropbox >> is reaching its capacity limits and I am considering to move everything to >> iCloud where I still have much space left. >> >> Now the question is: Is there an easy and secure way to move the autofilled >> files to a new place so that BibDesk will update all paths correctly? Since >> we are talking about hundreds of files, it’s not something which I can do by >> hand. The alternative would, of course, be to buy more space for Dropbox. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Simon > > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Move from Dropbox to iCloud
Are all of the directories on the same volume (dropbox, iCloud, and database)? First make sure Dropbox has not replaced any file behind your back while the database was open. Probbaly it is best to just freshly (re)open your database in BibDesk, to make sure the aliases and relative paths are updated. Then you can move the files (perhaps by moving the containing folder) to the new location. Then check a bit whether BibDesk still finds the files, and save the database. After that it is probably safest to close and reopen the database again. If you want to move both the database AND the files together, keeping a fixed relative path, you can also do the following. Close the database, and just move both the files and the database (e.g. by moving the containing folder). Then open the database, check a bit whether BibDesk finds the files, and save the database. What is important is when you move you either keep the file identities fixed (i.e. make sure you files are movemoved rather than copied, note that moving between volumes is really a copy operation, and also that Dropbox has a habit of copying files behind your back). Or you keep the relative path fixed. And consolidate your changes afterwards by saving and reopening the database. And of course you may have to udate your auto file settings. Christiaan > On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:25, Simon Spiegel wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > for years I have been relying on a setup where BibDesk would autofill all my > publications to a Dropbox folder; this has worked well, but now my Dropbox is > reaching its capacity limits and I am considering to move everything to > iCloud where I still have much space left. > > Now the question is: Is there an easy and secure way to move the autofilled > files to a new place so that BibDesk will update all paths correctly? Since > we are talking about hundreds of files, it’s not something which I can do by > hand. The alternative would, of course, be to buy more space for Dropbox. > > Thanks in advance > > > Simon ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Move from Dropbox to iCloud
Hi everyone, for years I have been relying on a setup where BibDesk would autofill all my publications to a Dropbox folder; this has worked well, but now my Dropbox is reaching its capacity limits and I am considering to move everything to iCloud where I still have much space left. Now the question is: Is there an easy and secure way to move the autofilled files to a new place so that BibDesk will update all paths correctly? Since we are talking about hundreds of files, it’s not something which I can do by hand. The alternative would, of course, be to buy more space for Dropbox. Thanks in advance Simon -- Simon Spiegel Maneggplatz 18 8041 Zürich Telephon: ++41 44 451 5334 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 6039 http://www.simifilm.ch http://www.utopia2016.ch „In a world getting more and more democratic, film directing is the last resort for dictators.“ Francis Ford Coppola ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
