Re: [Blackbelly] a question regarding lamb deaths

2010-01-07 Thread Cecil Bearden
Sounds like enterotoxemia.  There is a site for goats that has a great 
treatment and also good descriptions on enterotoxemia.  I have brought 2 
out of it.  the sweet feed is too sweet for them.  At that age they 
cannot digest the sweet feed so it goes on through the gut until it 
causes the native clostridium bacteria to flare up and create the toxins 
of enterotoxemia.  Overeating vaccinations help somewhat, but I have 
found that just keeping them away from the good stuff works best.


Cecil in OKla

Crystal Wolf wrote:


Dear Fellow Breeders,

In November I sold 2  three month old lambs a ewe and wether to a 
neighbor. On Tuesday they called and said something was wrong with their 
lambs.  They had the scours and the little ewe seemed to have pneumonia 
because her breathing was labored.   They both quit eating and the 
little wether was just laying around.  They called the vet and he said 
I know it worms and sold them a pour on wormer to be administered 
orally.  They opted not to use what the vet sold them and instead used 
SafeGuard and gave the ewe a pencillin shot.  Wednesday morning they 
reported that both lambs had died. However, later that afternoon when 
they were going to remove them from the barn, they called and said the 
wether was still alive.  They gave him electrolytes and he seemed to 
want to get up.  We went over and he was trying to get up so we gave him 
4 ounces of lamb milk replacement mixed with the electrolytes and a bit 
of yogurt.  He got up several times while we visited and would rest in 
between.  2 hours later he did not want to eat and then he too died 
about 10:30 pm.


From what I can gather, their diet consisted of hay ad lib and sweet feed 
once a day, the ability to graze and fresh water everyday.  Has anyone 
experienced anything like this before..alive one day and dead 
the next?  They were with a few goats but were fed in a separate area 
and I gave them a 8 way vaccination when they were 3 months old.


I have 9 lambs that are of the same age and they are all doing great and 
although I am a newbie at this (less than 4 years) we have never 
experienced anything like this.   Could undected mold in the sweet feed 
cause this..or was feeding sweet feed for their grain ration the 
culprit? They did find a bit of mold in the hay but removed it from 
their feed.  This is tragic and the couple feels really bad and I am at 
a loss as to why this may of occurred.  They did everything they could 
to try and save them to no avail.


any ideas?

Cathy Mayton
Leap'N Lambs

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Re: [Blackbelly] a question regarding lamb deaths

2010-01-07 Thread Cecil Bearden
I might add that worms can play a big role in this.  moving lambs to new 
environments causes stress and the parasites then quickly grow.  I worm 
any animal that leaves here to go to new surroundings.  So far none have 
been lost.   I use oral and feed based panacur  religiously .


Cecil in OKla

Crystal Wolf wrote:


Dear Fellow Breeders,

In November I sold 2  three month old lambs a ewe and wether to a 
neighbor. On Tuesday they called and said something was wrong with their 
lambs.  They had the scours and the little ewe seemed to have pneumonia 
because her breathing was labored.   They both quit eating and the 
little wether was just laying around.  They called the vet and he said 
I know it worms and sold them a pour on wormer to be administered 
orally.  They opted not to use what the vet sold them and instead used 
SafeGuard and gave the ewe a pencillin shot.  Wednesday morning they 
reported that both lambs had died. However, later that afternoon when 
they were going to remove them from the barn, they called and said the 
wether was still alive.  They gave him electrolytes and he seemed to 
want to get up.  We went over and he was trying to get up so we gave him 
4 ounces of lamb milk replacement mixed with the electrolytes and a bit 
of yogurt.  He got up several times while we visited and would rest in 
between.  2 hours later he did not want to eat and then he too died 
about 10:30 pm.


From what I can gather, their diet consisted of hay ad lib and sweet feed 
once a day, the ability to graze and fresh water everyday.  Has anyone 
experienced anything like this before..alive one day and dead 
the next?  They were with a few goats but were fed in a separate area 
and I gave them a 8 way vaccination when they were 3 months old.


I have 9 lambs that are of the same age and they are all doing great and 
although I am a newbie at this (less than 4 years) we have never 
experienced anything like this.   Could undected mold in the sweet feed 
cause this..or was feeding sweet feed for their grain ration the 
culprit? They did find a bit of mold in the hay but removed it from 
their feed.  This is tragic and the couple feels really bad and I am at 
a loss as to why this may of occurred.  They did everything they could 
to try and save them to no avail.


any ideas?

Cathy Mayton
Leap'N Lambs

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