[Blackbelly] Aggressive Rams

2010-01-16 Thread rexesandroses


Hi Everyone,

I  rarely post but have  learned s much through this list.  Thank you 
to everyone for  sharing.  I have had AB's for almost 5 years  feel that I 
have  something of interest to share with everybody.  

I, too, have had my fill of rams with bad attitudes through the years  (I 
used to raise woolies ages ago).  Over time, I've carried a 2 x 4,  a 
pitchfork, I've used ram shields,  have learned to jump a fence rather  
quickly 
(the fences are getting taller as I age though :-) .  
 
This past fall, quite by chance, I found an alternative method that my  
current ram has no idea how to respond to.  I have a Old English Mastiff  
teenager (she's 1 1/2) that loves to use the buffet as I'm cleaning out the  
rabbit barn,  keeping the door shut while cleaning isn't an option.  I  got 
tired of chasing, scolding  hollering at her, so I was using a spray  bottle 
set on stream to get her attention  to try to break her of the  habit.  
It's only got water in it, so no harm, no foul,  she doesn't  think that I 
can touch her from 15 feet away.  Guess again. it's  working.
 
I was in the barn,  right after shooting her with the water, I had  to 
dump the wheelbarrow which was right in the vicinity of where my ram  was.  
He'd never tried me before, but I guess he was feeling a bit frisky  (he was 
coming 2 at that time).  He looked at me, backed up a couple of  steps,  
got 3 quick shots of water in the face.  I've never seen a ram  so bewildered 
in my life!  He shook his head, backed up  tried again,  but to no avail.  
He still can't comprehend how I can touch him from  a distance!  Now I 
just carry a spray bottle whenever I go out in the  field,  it works great 
(although it doesn't look near as classy as a  shepherds crook).  I also use 
this when I grain the girls in the evening  (I've only got 7 total,  they get 
just a small amount),  have trained  him to keep to his own grain bucket, 
 he's not pushing the girls out of  theirs.  Most of the time, he is very 
polite now,  usually finds  something to keep himself busy when I have work 
to do out in the  field. We've had to go 'round a couple of times but it 
seems to have helped him  decide who is dominant, without causing him, nor 
myself, any harm ( he's  even learned a dance step or two!).
 
This is something that I only use when I have to, but I keep it with me in  
case I may need it.  I hope that this has been of interest  may help  some 
of you.
 
Karen
Spokane, WA
 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Aggressive Rams

2010-01-16 Thread Cecil Bearden

An Excellent Idea!  It also works great on Dogs chasing Cars..

Cecil in OKla

rexesandro...@aol.com wrote:


Hi Everyone,

I  rarely post but have  learned s much through this list.  Thank you 
to everyone for  sharing.  I have had AB's for almost 5 years  feel that I 
have  something of interest to share with everybody.  

I, too, have had my fill of rams with bad attitudes through the years  (I 
used to raise woolies ages ago).  Over time, I've carried a 2 x 4,  a 
pitchfork, I've used ram shields,  have learned to jump a fence rather  quickly 
(the fences are getting taller as I age though :-) .  
 
This past fall, quite by chance, I found an alternative method that my  
current ram has no idea how to respond to.  I have a Old English Mastiff  
teenager (she's 1 1/2) that loves to use the buffet as I'm cleaning out the  
rabbit barn,  keeping the door shut while cleaning isn't an option.  I  got 
tired of chasing, scolding  hollering at her, so I was using a spray  bottle 
set on stream to get her attention  to try to break her of the  habit.  
It's only got water in it, so no harm, no foul,  she doesn't  think that I 
can touch her from 15 feet away.  Guess again. it's  working.
 
I was in the barn,  right after shooting her with the water, I had  to 
dump the wheelbarrow which was right in the vicinity of where my ram  was.  
He'd never tried me before, but I guess he was feeling a bit frisky  (he was 
coming 2 at that time).  He looked at me, backed up a couple of  steps,  
got 3 quick shots of water in the face.  I've never seen a ram  so bewildered 
in my life!  He shook his head, backed up  tried again,  but to no avail.  
He still can't comprehend how I can touch him from  a distance!  Now I 
just carry a spray bottle whenever I go out in the  field,  it works great 
(although it doesn't look near as classy as a  shepherds crook).  I also use 
this when I grain the girls in the evening  (I've only got 7 total,  they get 
just a small amount),  have trained  him to keep to his own grain bucket, 
 he's not pushing the girls out of  theirs.  Most of the time, he is very 
polite now,  usually finds  something to keep himself busy when I have work 
to do out in the  field. We've had to go 'round a couple of times but it 
seems to have helped him  decide who is dominant, without causing him, nor 
myself, any harm ( he's  even learned a dance step or two!).
 
This is something that I only use when I have to, but I keep it with me in  
case I may need it.  I hope that this has been of interest  may help  some 
of you.
 
Karen

Spokane, WA
 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Breeding twice in a year

2010-01-16 Thread RBMuller

Hi all from TX,
What I do is flush the ewe.  That means that I feed the ewe real well for 
about 6 weeks before putting the ram in.
But, I have found it actually better to have 3 lamb crops in 2 years.  Much 
easier on the ewe and the human.  Here in Central TX, fire ants become a 
concern if lambing in late spring to summer.

Have fun!!
Rhonda
- Original Message - 
From: Dave Andrus andruscompan...@netecin.net

To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Breeding twice in a year


My primary question is...If you want to lamb twice in one year how soon 
after lambing should the ewe be exposed again?


The secondary question is what advice and experiances has everyone had 
breeding twice in one year?


TIA,

Dave

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