[Blackbelly] Pricing

2011-09-25 Thread Curtis
I tried this before and am unsure if it went through

I was wondering how y'all priced you rams for sale, especially those that have 
really nice horns. Any and all help would be much appreciated

Thanks,
Curtis
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Re: [Blackbelly] Pricing

2011-09-25 Thread RAY DE SA
Depends on your area and the general demand.  I'm in central California and 
they vary quite a bit.  I have bought some nice young rams (that are now 
beautiful) for as little as $50.00 each and sold some nice young ones for 
$150.00.  I do see them nice older rams listed from around $80.00 to $250.00 
around here. I guess you just have to check your area and see if you can get 
what you think they're worth.  If you are happy with what you get for them, you 
priced them right.
Ray
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From: Curtis cyesc...@peoplepc.com
Subject: [Blackbelly] Pricing
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Date: Sunday, September 25, 2011, 8:31 AM


I tried this before and am unsure if it went through

I was wondering how y'all priced you rams for sale, especially those that have 
really nice horns. Any and all help would be much appreciated

Thanks,
Curtis
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Re: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe

2011-09-25 Thread RAY DE SA
Hi Natasha, Couldn't open the link, any chance you could send some pics?
I'm always curious and usually pretty good about determining the genetics in 
Blackbellies and Barbados and their crosses.
Thanks,
Ray
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From: Natasha Lovell rubystargo...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2011, 1:16 PM


I was called about rehoming a sheep recently (I have dairy goats, and I'm the 
local petting zoo goat supplier  livestock expert). I went to visit the 
animal, and she had some intriguing characteristics. ..which prompted a search 
online and an inquiry to my goat Yahoo groups about her ancestry, with 
suggestions of Jacob, katahdin, St. Croix or Barbados Blackbelly crosses or 
Soay. The Soay people says she has no Soay breeding, but definately looks like 
she's at least 1/2 Barbados.

Pictures:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2153859638484.2108237.1006225420

She is about the size of a pygmy goat, with a long tail (bushy on the end), a 
wiry overcoat and wool undercoat (has been clipped sometime after July, grown 
back to ~1-2). Four teats (two are likely non functional). She has two horn 
stubs (or polled? I'm not familiar with sheep heads), and a dished, very dainty 
face (and legs). Her coloring reminds me of the Barbados Blackbelly, with white 
patches. A vet suggested her age to be less than 3-4yrs; I'm pretty sure she's 
a 2011 lamb, due to general appearance and hoof growth.

She is tame, and seems to have been well handled previously, as she responds 
well to a head rub. She was purchased from the Enumclaw Sales Pavilion in July 
from a group of goat-like sheep including a white/cream ram. Her only tag is 
from the sale barn. I was hoping, since she appears to be a rare/minor breed or 
cross, that I might be able to trace her origin. If anyone knows her breed(s), 
approximate age or maybe even a place of origin, I would be delighted to know. 
I will be bringing her home, if her CL and Johnnes tests are Neg, in Oct.

If the FB link won't work for you, I can send the pictures upon request.

Thanks!
Natasha Lovell
Rubystar Nubian  Guernsey dairy goats
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Re: [Blackbelly] Need help with identifying a ewe

2011-09-25 Thread Michael Smith
first off: hair sheep. so only a few breeds could be in the mix. 

Definitely Barbado or American Blackbelly- mix with something else. My AB girls 
mostly have horn scurs, I would think a true barbado would not.

On the west coast, the most popular hair-sheep mixes with ABs are Painted 
Desert, and then plenty of ABs show up with some wool, and are mixed with wool 
sheep as well. 

here's an example of some lambs I believe are both mixed with Painted Desert 
and a bit of wool. The two white lambs are what I am talking about here, but 
you can see the parents, who are probably half and half.

https://picasaweb.google.com/105444895914121009228/NikkiS_Sheep827081028AM

The Painted Desert can be responsible for the white splotches in places they 
would not belong on a normal AB.   I bought the female lamb, and she grows an 
extra- thick layer of very white and curly hair for winter. All my other more 
barbie looking sheep have thinner, and more cream-colored winter wool.

these are three of my most barbie-looking ABs I got from one ranch, Great 
markings.

https://picasaweb.google.com/105444895914121009228/New_Barbados10308857PM#5284927325580751586

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies





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On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Natasha Lovell rubystargo...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was called about rehoming a sheep recently (I have dairy goats, and I'm the 
 local petting zoo goat supplier  livestock expert). I went to visit the 
 animal, and she had some intriguing characteristics. ..which prompted a 
 search online and an inquiry to my goat Yahoo groups about her ancestry, with 
 suggestions of Jacob, katahdin, St. Croix or Barbados Blackbelly crosses or 
 Soay. The Soay people says she has no Soay breeding, but definately looks 
 like she's at least 1/2 Barbados.
 
 Pictures:
 
 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2153859638484.2108237.1006225420
 
 She is about the size of a pygmy goat, with a long tail (bushy on the end), a 
 wiry overcoat and wool undercoat (has been clipped sometime after July, grown 
 back to ~1-2). Four teats (two are likely non functional). She has two horn 
 stubs (or polled? I'm not familiar with sheep heads), and a dished, very 
 dainty face (and legs). Her coloring reminds me of the Barbados Blackbelly, 
 with white patches. A vet suggested her age to be less than 3-4yrs; I'm 
 pretty sure she's a 2011 lamb, due to general appearance and hoof growth.
 
 She is tame, and seems to have been well handled previously, as she responds 
 well to a head rub. She was purchased from the Enumclaw Sales Pavilion in 
 July from a group of goat-like sheep including a white/cream ram. Her only 
 tag is from the sale barn. I was hoping, since she appears to be a rare/minor 
 breed or cross, that I might be able to trace her origin. If anyone knows her 
 breed(s), approximate age or maybe even a place of origin, I would be 
 delighted to know. I will be bringing her home, if her CL and Johnnes tests 
 are Neg, in Oct.
 
 If the FB link won't work for you, I can send the pictures upon request.
 
 Thanks!
 Natasha Lovell
 Rubystar Nubian  Guernsey dairy goats
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