[Blackbelly] microscopes for fecal tests
For those who may be interested in doing fecals, I have 2 Premiere microscopes for sale, each has 4x, 10x, 20x and 30x and 40x objectives -- Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs Winnemucca, NV ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] microscopes for fecal tests
Hi Becky, I paid $800 for them but am askint $450 or make me a good offer. Cathy On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Becky Lannon beckylanno...@hughes.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Cathy Mayton camay...@gmail.com To: blackbelly digest blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: [Blackbelly] microscopes for fecal tests For those who may be interested in doing fecals, I have 2 Premiere microscopes for sale, each has 4x, 10x, 20x and 30x and 40x objectives -- Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs Winnemucca, NV ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info Cathy, What are you asking for them? Becky Lannon Lone Star Farm ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] tanning
Rick, Buck's does mine as well and I am very happy with them. I think there are some in TX as well and once I get settled down there, I'll shop around a bit for us. Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Rick Krach rickkr...@hotmail.com wrote: Cathy, I always get my hides done at Buck's County Fur in PA. Do you have yours done there, too? If not, where, and what is the cost? Rick Krach Auburn California (530) 355-5144 Beth, I responded directly to Carrie. I have a few and another out for tanning now that she may like. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM, GARLAND STAMPER wrote: Hi all, I just received a post from a gal that is looking for a BB hide to buy. We don't have any so thought I'd post her request to the list. I am looking for a summer-coat hide - as dark as possible with BLACK edge lines Contact: Carrie Griffith Thanks, Beth in OR _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Hide Wanted
Beth, I responded directly to Carrie. I have a few and another out for tanning now that she may like. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM, GARLAND STAMPER gstamper97...@msn.com wrote: Hi all, I just received a post from a gal that is looking for a BB hide to buy. We don't have any so thought I'd post her request to the list. I am looking for a summer-coat hide - as dark as possible with BLACK edge lines Contact: Carrie Griffith lak...@crestviewcable.com Thanks, Beth in OR ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] ram lambs for sale
I have 5 ram lambs that were born between Oct 13 and Oct 30 from three different sires. Jingle Farms Zeke (165 lbs), LeapN Lambs Indy (170 lbs) Zeke is Indy's sire and LeapN Lambs Rocky (130 lbs). These ram lambs will be registered, if new owner wants. I am breeding for no wool, longer bodies for more chops and broader shoulders and rumps for higher yield. All ram lambs are mahogany and black in color. One lamb is a repeat breeding that created LeapN Lambs Indy. All my rams have a nice personality. We just had 5 lambs butchered that were born January/February 2008, 2 weighed 90 lbs and 2 weighed 98 lbs live weight with a yield of 34-38 lbs of wrapped meat. One ewe lamb was butchered for low growth performance and way to much wool. This is my last set of lambs for this area as we will be moving to Texas sometime next Spring. -- Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs Winnemucca, NV ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Urinary Calculi
In regards to urinary calculi maybe adding adding apple cider vinegar to their water would help. The acidity of the vinegar would dissolve the calculi. Also, you get another plus with the vinegar as I read in Sheep! magazine over a year ago that the apple cider vinegar is also used for worming.Just a thought. Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:48 PM, The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know if this will be helpful after urinary calculi has developed. I prevent urinary calculi by feeding plain salt and making plenty of water available. Where salt goes water soon follows. The males need to urinate frequently to flush the residue from high protein feeds that build the stones that plug up the urinary tract. Mark Wintermute I have a more serious question regarding urinary calculi. Our boys went wild 3 wks after we opened the pen for pasture grazing. Now they are un-catchable and we don't have a good pen setup they won't dash out of before we can close the gate. If chased too much they will literally leap the 5 ft. fences and be gone. The Vet suggested we just shoot him. Is there anything that can be put in their feed to help this guy since we can't get our hands on him? I've looked at archive articles on what to suppliment to prevent this, but is there anything an be given after the fact? Georgette Atwood NorCal ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] wasting away could be coccidiosis
Are you close to a University such as Texas AM? It might be worth contacting them and find a vet interested in the problem you are experiencing. Doing a necropsy on the next animal that expires can be very beneficial since you may find out exactly what is causing the problem. Just a thought. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Cathy Mayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you close to a University such as Texas AM? It might be worth contacting them and find a vet interested in the problem you are experiencing. Doing a necropsy on the next animal that expires can be very beneficial since you may find out exactly what is causing the problem. Just a thought. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Julian Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:07 PM 8/18/2008, you wrote: IT certainly could be coccidia. If they are experiencing bloody scours, then coccidia would be almost certain. Corid is the drug of choice for coccidia. Sulfa also works. There is a new drug called MARQUIS for coccidia. I have not had a problem with this for so long I forgot. I did a quick review of the symptoms and sometimes coccidiosis presents without bloody scours. It damages the intestinal lining so this would explain the wasting away. My memory is beginning to fail me some on these diseases/symptoms. Cecil in OKla Yes, I would say that coccidiosis is the most likely culprit. Barb Lee has experienced wasting problems, and found out it was coccidiosis. She reported that supplementing selenium seemed to solve her problem, where coccidiostats didn't. Julian ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] one udder
Hi Rick, J.C. wonder if maybe she was bitten by snake. Do you have the brown recluse spiders in your area? Cathy LeapN Lambs On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Rick Krach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a somewhat strange thing happen to a ewe this spring. She literally lost an udder. The ewe had been nursing one lamb for a couple of months until one morning when she started acted sluggish and stopped nursing. I couldn't see anything different on her or find any injuries and I looked at her udder carefully. She lay down and didn't move much for nearly a week. She wasn't much interested in food or water either. When she finally started to recover, she had lost a lot of weight, and I could see that one side of her udder had begun to rot away. I figured that was the end of her, but she seems to have survived it. There is a hairless dark patch where the udder used to be, and she is back to normal, along with now being a nice trimmed size. (She was a fat, Great American breed.) Is this at all common for any kind of livestock to have a part of their body rot away and fall off? I am so surprised that I almost want to keep her to see if she can still produce and nurse lambs next year, but maybe that is not the most logical, practical thing to do? Rick Krach Auburn, California (530) 889-1488 _ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i'm Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] copper
Copper and other metals are normally found in the ground and although we try to avoid copper, it is an essential metal required by life. Whether you realize it or not there is probably small amounts of copper in whatever you are currently feeding. I have been giving my sheep kelp as a replacement for the normal sheep minerals for almost a year now and they are very healthy. The kelp has some copper in it but because it a plant material the copper that is in the kelp does not produce toxic levels. Last Fall I started giving my sheep Celtic sea salt that has 81 different minerals in it. All of ewes have produced large strong lambs and all without the use of the normal sheep mineral. You are more likely to produce toxicity in the animals if they are provided with salt licks or given other commercially produced minerals containing copper. If your sheep were free ranging animals, you can bet the forage they eat will contain small amounts of normal occurring copper. The sheep love the kelp and their hair is nice and shiny. BTW, my sheep are dry lot animals so I have to provide all of their food and other nutrients. Not scientifically based but this is my 2 cents. Cathy LeapN Lambs On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Nancy Tom Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does anyone know how long copper stays in the ground and comes up in the grass? We have a chance to put our sheep out on some grass that had hogs on it about 7 - 10 years ago. Will the copper still be coming up in it? Just want an opinion doesn't have to be fact. Nancy ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] DE dust
Hi John and Barb, I add DE to my sheeps grain but I have a mist bottle with water in it. I mist the grain and stir it up making sure most of the grain is slightly wetted, then add the DE and the DE sticks nicely to the grain and there is no dust. Cathy LeapN' Lambs On Jan 31, 2008 4:48 PM, Double J Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas on how to reduce the dust from DE added to dry grain feed? John Carlton Double J Farms ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Cathy Mayton ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] The Beet Pulp Experiment
Dear Barb, This last email you sent regarding finding out what makes the ABB sheep tick is right on. I recently wrote to a gentleman in the Bahamas who has a flock of BB and I asked him how he mananged his sheep. He did not give me a direct answer but told me that my sheep are wild. I was not sure exactly what he meant by that. What he was referring to, is that the ABB was bred for hunting purposes and it has not been too many years that the ABB has been embraced by shepherds such as yourself. I am considered a newbie since it has been less than 2 years of owning my small flock. What I did notice is the goat-like behavior of these sheep. How many wool sheep do you see standing on their hind legs to strip leaves from trees? I had a couple Suffolk for a short time because my husband wanted to cross the Suffolk with one of my rams. If you had a chance to read the article I wrote for the membership, I mentioned that I periodically let my ewes out to graze in the front and side yard. The Suffolk ate the fallen leaves but did not try to eat the leaves off the trees nor did they strip bark off the trees. My ABB flock now head out to eat the fallen branches off the willow tree and then they go out front to eat the branches off the shrubs. MAYBE if they get bored they will literally graze on the grass but that is not their first choice. In the spring I can't let them out because the eat all the tender shoots off the trees and shrubs and they bounce around from one shrub to the other especially if one thinks a gold mine has been hit. Yes, mine mostly get a small amount of grain twice a day and alfalfa but I also give them veggie scraps which they love. I used to throw away the hulls from the pistachio nuts I eat but they love them too. They also love green weeds and dried up ole tumbleweeds. I give them all of this. I think we have to do the best we can within our means and areas that we are growing these sheep. You are doing your very best. I also culled heavy last year for wool and if a ewe does not take care of her lambs then she will go down the road. In the wild it would be survival of the fittest. I don't believe there is a right way or wrong way to feed our sheep, we all just have to do our best and be critical enough to know when to cull. If there is an undesirable trait, no matter how sweet the animal is, than maybe it is best to cull them from the breeding line. If the animal is sweet and someone would like to have it for pet than it is a win-win for you and the sheep. I do believe that these are not just grass sheep like the woolies. I think these sheep would have a blast if they were able to run in thickets and be allowed to forage on the plants and shrubs in the thickets. I wonder if they like kudzu that grows in the Southeast? They might be great for hire to clear areas thick with kudzu and other undesirable plants. I have read articles regarding goats for hire that do this very thing. We have however, fenced in our sheep and so they must survive on what the shepherd gives them. Just my thoughts.. Cathy Mayton LeapN' Lambs On Jan 21, 2008 10:52 AM, Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya know Cecil, I received some startling advice on raising these sheep that came from a non-sheep person. He said that when I obtained exotic animals (and whether we like it or not, we are dealing with an exotic animal), it became my responsibility to know more about them than anybody on the planet. Otherwise they would die, and it would be my fault - felony ignorance. He had a clarity of insight that amazed me. Without knowing much about the sheep, he summed it up...They are out of their natural environment, they are offered feed they may not be adapted to, they are not acclimatized (very few of my remaining sheep come from this area), they are a combination of opposing reproductive characteristics. He told me I had to know more about them than the vet...I had to know more about them than anyone else in the area...because if I was going to raise them successfully, **I** was going to have to adapt to **them** in order to work through the process of adapting my particular flock to my circumstances. As we - or I - wade through the challenges of understanding what I can do with them and what I cannot, we have to keep in mind that Industry is pushing Livestock producers to absorb the waste products of ethanol production. They do this by publishing a nutritional analysis and letting us find out for ourselves if the physical body can utilize foodlike substances not found in nature. You can just look into any feedlot and see the sickness that alternative feeds with apparently high nutritional profiles wreak on the animals there. Ag has always been a dumping ground for industrial waste. My farrier raises pigs and he says that distillers grains and corn gluten meal, et al are not successful for raising pigs. Why??? It has the nutrition
[Blackbelly] Diatomaceous earth
Barb, I have been feeding Diatomaceous earth (DE) to my dogs since about April of this year. I get mine from www.theholistichorse.com and it is a food grade DE with grapeseed in it. They recommend a higher dose for 3 days and then a maintenance dose 3-5 tmes a week. I am feeding my 50 lb dogs 1 tablespoon a day as a maintenance dose. I got the package out this afternoon and the dosage for sheep and goats is 2 tablespoon 2 times a day x 3 days with a maintenance of 2 tablespoons 3-5 times a week. I found another source for DE on the web last night at Freshwater Organics (1-888-949-350) in Sandy UT. Their email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This too is food grade DE and they sell a 50# lb bag for $64 dollars that includes the shipping. They also have smaller sizes. I don't know how this compares to your source or price. Not only is the DE to act as a wormer but also as a probiotic for the intestines. Healthy intestines are less likely to host internal parasites. I also recently read about adding apple cider vinegar to the water 1 ounce / 6 gallons of water in Sheep! magazine. This too acts as a wormer since the worms can't handle the acidic environment. The apple cider vinegar also is great for the digestion tract as well. Most holistic/natural methods take longer than chemical/drug methods and so you may need to check your animals in 60 days again as suggested by another member the other day. That way more than one life cycle of the internal parasites will have passed and give you a better indication as to whether or not the DE works for your animals. The other natural wormer that I have read about is the Garlic Barrier which also was discussed recently on the BB digest. So now we have many things to choose from to try and treat our animals using holistic methods vs chemicals and drugs. -- Cathy Mayton Leap'N Lambs ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] tetanus, sheath rot and blackleg
I have found a couple web sites that explain the diseases currently being discussed on the BB digest that give a explanation. For tetanus in horses there is a short explanation at http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/horses/facts/info_tetanus.htm. The tetanus bacteria is what manifests the disease lockjaw. It is recommended that humans get vaccinated for tetanus every 10 years. Blackleg is an infectious, usually fatal bacterial disease of cattle and sometimes of sheep, goats, and swine, caused by Clostridium chauvoe and characterized by gas-containing swellings in the musculature. Both of these diseases (tetanus and blackleg) are preventable with vaccines. Also Barb Lee mentioned that one of her wethers developed sheath rot and I found a good explanation for this at http://cahe.nmsu.edu/sheep/sheep_health/sheath_rot.html Sheath rot is caused by a bacterium and urea reaction from the urine. The reaction causes irritation of the prepuce. Sheath rot primarily occurs in rams on high-protein rations. Control of sheath rot consists of changing the ration. To reduce the potential for sheath rot, sheep can be grazed on dry grass pastures or fed a grass hay in a drylot. External lesions associated with sheath rot can be treated with one part copper sulfate and eight parts of petroleum jelly, or with antibiotic ointments. -- Cathy Mayton LeapN Lambs Winnemucca, NV ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
