Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle lamb

2009-08-04 Thread The Wintermutes
I prefer a minimum of 8 weeks of full milk for a bottle baby before weaning.
And even then the bottle baby must weigh at least 25 pounds or I will
continue to bottle feed.  At weaning the bottle baby must be eating grass
and grain with gusto.  I typically do batches of bottle babies so when the
last one meets all the requirements for weaning they all get weaned.  I
abruptly pull all milk and wean them cold turkey.  They are very unhappy
for a few days and then are fine.  I have had several lambs weaned at 30
days due to the deaths of their mothers.  Obviously milk was abruptly cut
off in these situations.  The lambs have survived but need perfect creep
feed and pasture conditions.

Mark Wintermute



Subject: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle lamb

Thought I would share some experiences with the bottle lamb since I last 
posted (6/23). We successfully reintroduced the lamb to the herd at 7 days 
old. We would go down to the barn every 4 hours and feed, but otherwise we 
were hands-off. She adapted well and appears to be only slightly smaller 
than her sister. We went through a couple of bouts with scours (cut milk 
concentration ~50% and pepto then slowly increased milk concentration) and 
survived. The lamb will be 7 weeks old on 8/5. She currently gets a bottle 
of full strength replacer milk every 8 hours and drinks about 15 ounces in 
3 minutes flat. She eats grain, hay and grass with the other 9 lambs and 
acts like a sheep - except that she actually comes when we call her and is 
not afraid of the family dog (the dog normally licks the excess milk from 
the lamb's face).  Its getting close to time to wean and we are thinking of 
trying to reduce the feedings to every 12 hours for about a week and then go

to once a day for about a week before stopping the bottle. Any suggestions?

John Carlton
Double J Farms
Spanish Fort, Alabama
251-625-2519
doublejfa...@wildblue.net 


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Re: [Blackbelly] Update on bottle lamb

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Smith
I use a combo of Mark Wintermutes' Cold turkey and his weight
requirements (8 weeks and at least 25 lbs) and tapering, but I taper
by cutting out say, the afternoon meal first, then the nightly, and
then the morning meal. I don't dilute, but their last bottle will go
down from 16 oz to 8 oz in the last 3-4 days or so.  When they would
come in for the nightly, I would notice their bellies were already
VERY full from grazing. so I knew it was OK.

Since I wanted tame lambs, I raised three February bottle babies in a
nursery of sorts, in a 10x20' horse paddock. They were allowed to
graze after a couple of weeks -- once I was sure they would come back
in on demand. Though grazing, they still get called in and locked up
to sleep at night, even now--mainly due to their size--easy prey. By
the time my one May ram lamb was born, they were already weaned and
out with the adults in the pasture all day.

Since the solitary May ram lamb had no companions his age, I was not
about to try to leave him alone all day in a cage (he tried to
self-destruct by bouncing off the walls and cage door), so I pulled
the 3 weaned lambs in with him, and they raised him, for a week,
which was noisy and a pain, because I had to bring them food as well
and they let me know when it was time to eat. But it allowed him to
bond, and herd, and once I opened up the cage for daytime grazing, he
had bonded with the lambs and was part of a flock, and would come when
called. He got weaned all by himself, and was at least 25 lbs and 8-9
weeks old. Same routine, his breakfast was his last bottle.

_MWS
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