Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Christian Gardner
Hi everybody. Sorry for the presumably dumb question, I have got *somewhere* 
but am stuck.

I've installed LFS fine as per the 6.3 book, though I haven't done sec 7.13, 
configuring the network script, as I don't know what to put in there. I used a 
later kernel, 2.6.26.5. Reason being, support for my Intel Wireless 3945 card. 
So that bit works alright. I've installed wireless-tools-28 as per BLFS.

After I've booted up I issue the following commands:

ip link set wlan0 up
iwconfig wlan0 essid name-of-my-router
iwconfig wlan0 key hex-key

Presumably those could go in a bootup script somewhere... any suggestions?

Now what else do I need to do? Once I can 'ping www.theonion.com' and get a 
couple of packets back, or use wget to fetch some files, I'll be sorted! The 
only other bit of info I can think of right now is that the router's address 
appears to be '192.168.1.1' to all computers that should connect to it. 
Presumably my laptop would not need to know such things as DNS addresses, as 
those are all handled by the router? The router itself is already connected 
fine, I can surf all day on Windows and Ubuntu.

Many thanks in advance.



  
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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Lauri Kasanen
 Hi everybody. Sorry for the presumably dumb question, I have got 
 *somewhere* but am stuck.
 
 I've installed LFS fine as per the 6.3 book, though I haven't done 
 sec 7.13, configuring the network script, as I don't know what to 
 put in there. I used a later kernel, 2.6.26.5. Reason being, 
 support for my Intel Wireless 3945 card. So that bit works alright. 
 I've installed wireless-tools-28 as per BLFS.
 
 After I've booted up I issue the following commands:
 
 ip link set wlan0 up
 iwconfig wlan0 essid name-of-my-router
 iwconfig wlan0 key hex-key
 
 Presumably those could go in a bootup script somewhere... any suggestions?
 
 Now what else do I need to do? Once I can 'ping www.theonion.com' 
 and get a couple of packets back, or use wget to fetch some files, 
 I'll be sorted! The only other bit of info I can think of right now 
 is that the router's address appears to be '192.168.1.1' to all 
 computers that should connect to it. Presumably my laptop would not 
 need to know such things as DNS addresses, as those are all handled 
 by the router? The router itself is already connected fine, I can 
 surf all day on Windows and Ubuntu.
 
 Many thanks in advance.
 

Everybody has to start somewhere :)

If your wlan router uses WPA encryption instead of WEP, you'll also need 
wpasupplicant. For WEP your steps are fine.

After connecting like that, you just need to enter your IP, and the router's:
ip addr add 192.168.1.56/24 dev wlan0
ip route add default 192.168.1.56/24 via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0
echo nameserver 192.168.1.1  /etc/resolv.conf

That should get you online.

Lauri

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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Lauri Kasanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If your wlan router uses WPA encryption instead of WEP, you'll also need 
 wpasupplicant. For WEP your steps are fine.

 After connecting like that, you just need to enter your IP, and the router's:
 ip addr add 192.168.1.56/24 dev wlan0
 ip route add default 192.168.1.56/24 via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0
 echo nameserver 192.168.1.1  /etc/resolv.conf

It's very likely that your router is setup as a DHCP server, so you
can just use a DHCP client to handle these details. There are two dhcp
clients in BLFS:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/dhcpcd.html
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/dhcpclient.html

This has a summary of the wireless side:

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/WirelessTools

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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Christian Gardner
Thanks Lauri... that's got me a bit further, but not all the way!

First off, when I run the 'ip route add' command, I get back a message saying: 

Error: either to is duplicate, or 192.168.1.56/24 is a garbage.

Is this a problem?

Then once I've entered those commands and made the /etc/resolv.conf file, I can 
ping 192.168.1.1
and 192.168.1.56 successfully. But if I ping somewhere in the big bad world, 
like www.linuxfromscratch.org,
it says that's unreachable (though it does resolve the name, so it must 
presumably be
communicating sucessfully as far as my ISP's DNSes). Also wget doesn't manage to
get any files yet. How can I finish this off?

Finally, I'm doing all this at my mum's house. When I go back to my flat 
tomorrow, I'll 
be seeing a router which apparently likes to be called '10.0.0.2'. Do I just 
need to 
do the same things but change 192.168.1.56 to say 10.0.0.3?




  
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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Christian Gardner
 It's very likely that your router is setup as a DHCP
 server, so you
 can just use a DHCP client to handle these details. There
 are two dhcp
 clients in BLFS:
 
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/dhcpcd.html
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/dhcpclient.html
 
 This has a summary of the wireless side:
 
 http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/WirelessTools
 

Hello Dan, I remember your excellent help from the last brick wall I hit!
 I'd prefer to install as little as possible. If, as it would appear, I 
can get online just by issuing a few commands in a script, would there be 
any advantage in installing a dhcp client? What would that do that those 
few commands wouldn't?





  
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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Christian Gardner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's very likely that your router is setup as a DHCP
 server, so you
 can just use a DHCP client to handle these details. There
 are two dhcp
 clients in BLFS:

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/dhcpcd.html
 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/dhcpclient.html

 This has a summary of the wireless side:

 http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/WirelessTools


 Hello Dan, I remember your excellent help from the last brick wall I hit!
  I'd prefer to install as little as possible. If, as it would appear, I
 can get online just by issuing a few commands in a script, would there be
 any advantage in installing a dhcp client? What would that do that those
 few commands wouldn't?

The DHCP client talks to the DHCP server (your router) to find out the
IP adress to use, DNS servers, gateway, etc. While you may know these
settings on your home router, if you take the laptop elsewhere, you'll
most definitely need a DHCP client to do this work for you. Both DHCP
clients are pretty small and probably worth it unless you're using
static IP addresses everywhere.

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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread DJ Lucas
Christian Gardner wrote:
 Thanks Lauri... that's got me a bit further, but not all the way!
 
 First off, when I run the 'ip route add' command, I get back a message 
 saying: 
 
 Error: either to is duplicate, or 192.168.1.56/24 is a garbage.
 
 Is this a problem?

Yep.  The correct syntax should probably be:

ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0

and you should be good.


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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread DJ Lucas
Christian Gardner wrote:

 
 Finally, I'm doing all this at my mum's house. When I go back to my flat 
 tomorrow, I'll 
 be seeing a router which apparently likes to be called '10.0.0.2'. Do I just 
 need to 
 do the same things but change 192.168.1.56 to say 10.0.0.3?

I forgot to add.  This is where a DHCP client will be very useful.  Take 
a long look at the link that Dan pointed to in the wiki to get it setup 
correctly...once setup, all of the networking steps happen automatically 
except for the wireless network selection (SSID and KEY/Passphrase).

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Re: Newbie wants to connect laptop to internet with wireless router... how?

2008-10-05 Thread Or Goshen
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Christian Gardner 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Lauri... that's got me a bit further, but not all the way!

 First off, when I run the 'ip route add' command, I get back a message
 saying:

 Error: either to is duplicate, or 192.168.1.56/24 is a garbage.

 Is this a problem?


you should do ip route add default via 192.168.1.1
it can figure the dev by itself

http://192.168.1.1/


 Then once I've entered those commands and made the /etc/resolv.conf file, I
 can ping 192.168.1.1
 and 192.168.1.56 successfully. But if I ping somewhere in the big bad
 world, like www.linuxfromscratch.org,
 it says that's unreachable (though it does resolve the name, so it must
 presumably be
 communicating sucessfully as far as my ISP's DNSes). Also wget doesn't
 manage to
 get any files yet. How can I finish this off?

 Finally, I'm doing all this at my mum's house. When I go back to my flat
 tomorrow, I'll
 be seeing a router which apparently likes to be called '10.0.0.2'. Do I
 just need to
 do the same things but change 192.168.1.56 to say 10.0.0.3?


yeah, and the route command to ip route add default via 10.0.0.2






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Re: cursor control in console

2008-10-05 Thread Scott Castaline
Scott Castaline wrote:
 Which file actually controls the behavior of the console cursor? It 
 seems to behave erratically. When typing a long command it just keeps on 
 scrolling horizontally, even though it is turned off in inputrc. If I 
 recall a previously entered command the cursor is not at the end but 
 several characters to the left thus making it difficult to edit the command.
I'm still not sure what is going on. TERM is definitely set to linux 
under terminfo/l. When I type in something that is beyond around 72 
characters, it now jumps down a line and then will scroll horizontally 
from there. If I use the up arrow to repeat a command that is very long 
the cursor will not go to the end of the comand and behaves erratically, 
thus editing the command at different points is next to impossible. I am 
now using all of the scripts as is form the book for /etc/profile.d, 
profile, bash_profile, and bashrc. It's very difficult navigating 
through the cli in the shell. VIM and nano seem to respond as expected, 
just at the prompt in the shell.
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Re: KDE MIME issues

2008-10-05 Thread William Tracy
I'm trying a clean rebuild of KDE, and kdebase build chokes with this:

./.libs/libkdeinit_kdesktop.so: undefined reference to
`KSVGIconEngine::KSVGIconEngine()'
./.libs/libkdeinit_kdesktop.so: undefined reference to
`KSVGIconEngine::~KSVGIconEngine()'
./.libs/libkdeinit_kdesktop.so: undefined reference to
`KSVGIconEngine::load(int, int, QString const)'
./.libs/libkdeinit_kdesktop.so: undefined reference to `KSVGIconEngine::image()'

I have no idea if this is new, or if I just missed it the first time
around, and that's how I got a mostly-broken KDE.

Google dredged up a few people that ran into this problem when
building from SVN head, but I can't find any reference to anyone
having this problem with a stable release.

I can't find any evidence of a KSVG package outside of kdebase or
kdelib. Could there be a dependency I missed somewhere?

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Re: KDE MIME issues

2008-10-05 Thread Trent Shea
On Sunday 05 October 2008 19:07:45 William Tracy wrote:
 I can't find any evidence of a KSVG package outside of kdebase or
 kdelib. Could there be a dependency I missed somewhere?

As long as you have Qt and X installed you should not run into any 
dependency problems. I've build 3.5.9 and 3.5.10 in recent months and 
not run into this.

At this point I would want to confirm that kdelibs did indeed build and 
install correctly, and to maybe run ldconfig before trying to build 
kdebase again.


Good luck,
Trent.
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