Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread DJ Lucas
José Carlos Carrión wrote:

 
 Obviously the problem is in Xorg and not in BLFS team.
 Anyone knows why this applications (many of them have been in X from 
 many years ago and are very useful like xdm) have been «dropped» from 
 X11R7.,4 official distro? I'm browsing in deep in the Xorg site but I 
 couldn't find it.
 

Xorg is targeting Linux distributions.  Most of the dropped apps are 
never installed by a distribution, this includes bdftopcf and twm, 
though we've left those two in BLFS because they are still needed to 
build and test the system.  Most of the dropped apps are still perfectly 
valid, and continue to be developed.  They are just not a part of the 
'official' Xorg distribution as they are not needed/used by Linux 
distributions.  Though I haven't tested, the existing instructions are 
probably good for any of the apps that were dropped between versions.

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Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote:
 José Carlos Carrión wrote:
 
 Obviously the problem is in Xorg and not in BLFS team.
 Anyone knows why this applications (many of them have been in X from 
 many years ago and are very useful like xdm) have been «dropped» from 
 X11R7.,4 official distro? I'm browsing in deep in the Xorg site but I 
 couldn't find it.

 
 Xorg is targeting Linux distributions.  Most of the dropped apps are 
 never installed by a distribution, this includes bdftopcf and twm, 
 though we've left those two in BLFS because they are still needed to 
 build and test the system.  Most of the dropped apps are still perfectly 
 valid, and continue to be developed.  They are just not a part of the 
 'official' Xorg distribution as they are not needed/used by Linux 
 distributions.  Though I haven't tested, the existing instructions are 
 probably good for any of the apps that were dropped between versions.

DJ, I think it would be good to have that information in the book's 
introduction 
to Xorg.

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Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread William Tracy
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM, DJ Lucas d...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 Most of the dropped apps are still perfectly
 valid, and continue to be developed.

XDM is no longer being supported, which I find disappointing.

Somebody is still maintaining TWM, though, which is cool.

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Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:43 AM, William Tracy afishion...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:11 AM, DJ Lucas d...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
 Most of the dropped apps are still perfectly
 valid, and continue to be developed.

 XDM is no longer being supported, which I find disappointing.

 Somebody is still maintaining TWM, though, which is cool.

I'm pretty sure xdm is being maintained, but it's just not part of the
Xorg release. All the distros have it available, so things do get
fixed now and again. It probably won't receive any new features,
though.

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/xdm/log/

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Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread William Tracy
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Dan Nicholson dbn.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm pretty sure xdm is being maintained, but it's just not part of the
 Xorg release.

There was a thread on the Xorg development list (I can't find it now)
that I probably misinterpreted.

I'm glad to see that commits are still happening there. :-)

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Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread José Carlos Carrión
Bruce Dubbs escribió:
 DJ Lucas wrote:
   

 Xorg is targeting Linux distributions.  Most of the dropped apps are 
 never installed by a distribution, this includes bdftopcf and twm, 
 though we've left those two in BLFS because they are still needed to 
 build and test the system.  Most of the dropped apps are still perfectly 
 valid, and continue to be developed.  They are just not a part of the 
 'official' Xorg distribution as they are not needed/used by Linux 
 distributions.  Though I haven't tested, the existing instructions are 
 probably good for any of the apps that were dropped between versions.
 

 DJ, I think it would be good to have that information in the book's 
 introduction 
 to Xorg.

   
Thanks a lot to all of you for the info.

It seems like Xorg's folks think the life it's impossible beyond KDE/GNOME.

I'm a unix user from «the old days». I love LFS because it provides me
the freedom of writing «my rules». My rules are : X+xdm+OpenMotif+xterm
(I'm hopely waiting add a «OpenCDE» to this sum). I don't need and I
don't want neither KDE nor GNOME. It seems XFree86 respect this freedom
of mine. I propose to mention XFree86 in the BLFS book X Window System
Environment introduction like BLFS 6.2 did in the past.

Anyone has followed the XFree86 way and may advertise me of the problems
along it?

Thanks in advance.

J.C.




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Re: Problems installing Xorg 7.4

2009-01-09 Thread Trent Shea
On January 9, 2009 07:29:51 pm José Carlos Carrión wrote:
 Anyone has followed the XFree86 way and may advertise me of the problems
 along it?

I last built 4.7.99.26 last July using a 2.6.26 kernel. My notes are a bit 
sketchy, but it looks like the only thing I had to do was run the following 
seds (I forget where I found the info, google somewhere...)

sed -i 's:^.*asm.*$:# define PAGE_MASK   (~(getpagesize() - 1)):' \
lib/Xxf86dga/XF86DGA.c
sed -i 's:^.*asm.*$:# define PAGE_MASK   (~(getpagesize() - 1)):' \
lib/Xaw/OS.c
sed -i 's:^.*asm.*$:# define PAGE_MASK   (~(getpagesize() - 1)):' \
programs/xedit/lisp/lisp.c
sed -i 's:^.*asm.*$:# define PAGE_MASK   (~(getpagesize() - 1)):' \
programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/fbdevhw/fbdevhw.c
sed -i 's:IOPL_MASK:X86_EFLAGS_IOPL:;s:IF_MASK:X86_EFLAGS_IF:' \
programs/Xserver/hw/tinyx/vesa/vm86.c

According to my logs I went on to build kde-3.5.10 and used the system for a 
over a month.

Anyhow, I've since moved on to xorg. It takes a little more work to build (at 
least by hand,) but the control and understanding gained has been worth it.


Best of luck,
Trent.
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Openssl install problem

2009-01-09 Thread dennisjperkins
I've compiled openssl on my new system, but for some reason it will only 
install the /etc files and the /usr/share files.  I am using DESTDIR to check 
things first before installing into the normal locations.  I've been trying to 
figure out why the other files don't get installed.  Any suggestions?
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