Re: [Blind-Computing] Finding out how a program is a processing hog

2011-03-19 Thread Jacob Kruger
In the task manager - windows key + R, and type in taskmgr and hit enter, on 
the second page, which is the processes page, you'll find a whole lot of 
processes running, but if you know the executable name of an application, 
and can find it there, there are columns for CPU usage, memory usage etc., 
but you'll most likely need to use something like the jaws cursor to read 
all columns, and you can also click on column headers to sort the items 
according to those values, and a second click would generally reverse the 
sort order - as in most/least at the top/bottom.


Alternatively, if using jaws you could also virtualise the window using jaws 
key + alt + W if you're already on the executable name you're looking for, 
and then find it again in the virtual on screen display, etc.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: Mike  Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net

To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:25 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Finding out how a program is a processing hog



Hi All:

Over the years I have heard this program or that program is a processor 
hog.
My question is how do you find out how much of a processor hog a program 
is

or how much RAM a program is using?  All information will be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks much, take care.
Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

2011-03-19 Thread John Justice
Your messages are being received.  Don't worry.  It takes Yahoo a while to
get around to messages.

John  


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hellow r u receive my e-mail messages ?because i think my messages r not
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Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

2011-03-19 Thread David Ferrin
This is true, how ever this is not a Yahoo list. It is housed on the web 
space I rent, it is a mailman list that delivers almost instantly most of 
the time.
David Ferrin
I've reached the age where 'happy hour' is a nap.
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


Your messages are being received.  Don't worry.  It takes Yahoo a while to
get around to messages.

John


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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:57 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

hellow r u receive my e-mail messages ?because i think my messages r not
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Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

2011-03-19 Thread rana ayaz

very very thanks for reply
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
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Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me



Your messages are being received.  Don't worry.  It takes Yahoo a while to
get around to messages.

John


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PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:57 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

hellow r u receive my e-mail messages ?because i think my messages r not
send att all group members pleas iff u receive my mail so pleas reply me 
For

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Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

2011-03-19 Thread David Ferrin
Oh an a reminder to myself and everybody else, this is not a good subject 
line.
David Ferrin
I've reached the age where 'happy hour' is a nap.
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To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


This is true, how ever this is not a Yahoo list. It is housed on the web
space I rent, it is a mailman list that delivers almost instantly most of
the time.
David Ferrin
I've reached the age where 'happy hour' is a nap.
- Original Message - 
From: John Justice john_just...@verizon.net
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


Your messages are being received.  Don't worry.  It takes Yahoo a while to
get around to messages.

John


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WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of rana ayaz
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:57 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me

hellow r u receive my e-mail messages ?because i think my messages r not
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Are My Messages Coming to the List, was, pleas tell me

2011-03-19 Thread Mike Barbara In Arcadia
Hi Rana;

Yes they are!  There, you've been told!  LOL  LOL

Take care.
Mike

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  Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


  very very thanks for reply
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  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


   Your messages are being received.  Don't worry.  It takes Yahoo a while 
to
   get around to messages.
  
   John
  
  
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[Blind-Computing] Radio Downloader-what is a url

2011-03-19 Thread Niamh
I  love Radio Downloader but I  can't get to terms with the podcasts.   
 
Keeps asking me for a  URL?
can anybody help?
Niamh
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[Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Kenny Johnson
hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of
blind computing.  when i started searching for computers for the blind i was
surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated
computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen
readers

can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind
is?

thanks
kenny
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Matthew C
it really isn't voice controlled. It is speech output grin. There are a few
and it really is a personal and financial choice. There is jaws by fs or
freedom scientific or window eyes by gw micro. These are the two big one.
There is also system access to go and NVDA. 

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:30 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of
blind computing.  when i started searching for computers for the blind i was
surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated
computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky screen
readers

can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind
is?

thanks
kenny
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Finding out how a program is a processing hog

2011-03-19 Thread Mike Barbara In Arcadia
Hi Jacob  Kimsan;

Thank you very nuch for the information.  Take care.
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jacob Kruger
  To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 5:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Finding out how a program is a processing 
hog


  In the task manager - windows key + R, and type in taskmgr and hit enter, 
on
  the second page, which is the processes page, you'll find a whole lot of
  processes running, but if you know the executable name of an application,
  and can find it there, there are columns for CPU usage, memory usage etc.,
  but you'll most likely need to use something like the jaws cursor to read
  all columns, and you can also click on column headers to sort the items
  according to those values, and a second click would generally reverse the
  sort order - as in most/least at the top/bottom.

  Alternatively, if using jaws you could also virtualise the window using 
jaws
  key + alt + W if you're already on the executable name you're looking for,
  and then find it again in the virtual on screen display, etc.

  Stay well

  Jacob Kruger
  Blind Biker
  Skype: BlindZA
  '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike  Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net
  To: Blind Computing blind-computing@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:25 AM
  Subject: [Blind-Computing] Finding out how a program is a processing hog


   Hi All:
  
   Over the years I have heard this program or that program is a processor
   hog.
   My question is how do you find out how much of a processor hog a program
   is
   or how much RAM a program is using?  All information will be greatly
   appreciated.  Thanks much, take care.
   Mike
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Kenny Johnson
thanks for the reply and the info!  i saw something by dragon naturally
speaking that was sort of voice controlled.  if you said write email it
would open a new email.  all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired
when it comes to surfing the internet.  you have to go through all the links
at the top of the page to get to the content...  thanks again for your time!
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Radio Downloader-what is a url

2011-03-19 Thread Jacob Kruger

An example of a URL (uniform resource locater) is:
http://www.google.com/

That's not one relevant to internet radio broadcasts, but anyway...fact is 
URL is the actual term for a web address, etc.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:03 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Radio Downloader-what is a url



I  love Radio Downloader but I  can't get to terms with the podcasts.
Keeps asking me for a  URL?
can anybody help?
Niamh
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Jacob Kruger
Not quite since we use a lot of hotkeys to quickly navigate to relevant 
content etc., and here's a link to jaws' own bit of tutorial material 
relating to using the 'net smile:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/_Surfs_Up_Start_Here.htm

While some guys do use things like dragon naturally speaking, I think most 
of us just touch type as such, but anyway...and there are free typing 
tutorial bits of software out there that include their own spoken/audio 
prompts.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: Kenny Johnson kennyjjohn...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching



thanks for the reply and the info!  i saw something by dragon naturally
speaking that was sort of voice controlled.  if you said write email it
would open a new email.  all those screen readers leave a lot to be 
desired
when it comes to surfing the internet.  you have to go through all the 
links
at the top of the page to get to the content...  thanks again for your 
time!

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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Dan Rossi
Since most blind people have fingers, voice input isn't really necessary. 
Voice input is more for people who have paralysis or issues with 
dexterity.


As far as screen readers being clunky, this is true for some situations, 
but notthe for the one you mentioned, having to navigate through all the 
links at the top of a page.  Most screen readers have many navigation 
functions that allow you to quickly and easily navigate a page, including 
jumping over that first, usually a frame, to get to the body of the page.


A voice input system won't change that for you.  You will still need a 
screen reader to get information out of the system.  Speech to text is 
merely for putting information into the system.  So, you would still have 
to learn to navigate a web page even if you were using a voice input 
system.



--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Radio Downloader-what is a url

2011-03-19 Thread Niamh

thank you so much, really helpful.
Niamh
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From: Jacob Kruger jac...@mailzone.co.za

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Radio Downloader-what is a url



An example of a URL (uniform resource locater) is:
http://www.google.com/

That's not one relevant to internet radio broadcasts, but anyway...fact is 
URL is the actual term for a web address, etc.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

- Original Message - 
From: Niamh niam.mcke...@gmail.com

To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 8:03 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Radio Downloader-what is a url



I  love Radio Downloader but I  can't get to terms with the podcasts.
Keeps asking me for a  URL?
can anybody help?
Niamh
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Kenny Johnson
right it needs to a combination of voice input from the user, and digital
voice output from the computer.  so you can say use facebook then say
update status then just say what you want your status to be.  i am very
surprised that there is not already a system like this.  thanks for your
time.
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Yvonne Oliver
Hello
D n s I  ok but if I am correct to run d n s you need to purchase and
install a programm called j say.
This I believe will cost around £500
I bought d ns but knew nothing about j say until after I bought the d n s
program and had it installed and set up
Then I found out to use it I need j say

Yvonne

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson
Sent: 19 March 2011 18:41
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

thanks for the reply and the info!  i saw something by dragon naturally
speaking that was sort of voice controlled.  if you said write email it
would open a new email.  all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired
when it comes to surfing the internet.  you have to go through all the links
at the top of the page to get to the content...  thanks again for your time!
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Matthew C
Actually if used correctly they can be quite helpful. When I use jfw at
least you can go by headings or tab through links. You can also go to edit
fields or just do a text search. There are many ways to speed up internet
browsing.

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Johnson
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:41 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

thanks for the reply and the info!  i saw something by dragon naturally
speaking that was sort of voice controlled.  if you said write email it
would open a new email.  all those screen readers leave a lot to be desired
when it comes to surfing the internet.  you have to go through all the links
at the top of the page to get to the content...  thanks again for your time!
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Re: [Blind-Computing] Keyword browsing.

2011-03-19 Thread kimsan
I'm real interested in this keyword browsing using internet explorer so I
ran a google search and i got as far as reading the article at
http://searchenginewatch.com/3381361 and that's it. What do I do next?

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:50 AM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Keyword browsing.

Maybe folks here already know about this, but I found it quite 
interesting.  I haven't figured out if you could do this in Internet 
Explorer yet, but I've been experimenting with keyword browsing in 
FireFox.

You can create a keyword for a web site, then instead of either typing the 
URL into the address bar, or searching through your book marks, you just 
type the keyword into the address bar.

More importantly, you can adjust the URL in the book mark and add a 
variable into it.  Let me give an example.

I use www.ninjawords.com because I can't spell to save my life, and 
sometimes the spell checker doesn't even know what I am talking about. 
NinjaWords seems pretty good at figuring out what I meant to spell, and it 
is simply a really fast front-end to wiktionary.

Anyway, I can set up a keyword, n, with a URL of www.ninjawords.com/%s 
Then I I can open FireFox, type:

n sprocket

And it immediately brings me to the definition page for sprocket.  Saves 
me the time of going to the web page, then typing sprocket into the search 
field and hitting enter.

You can set up keywords for all kinds of sites that take inputs, like 
google maps, or google calendar.  So, if you use google calendar, you 
could have a keyword, say, cal, setup and then you could just open FireFox 
and type:

cal dinner with Dave and Patty on Friday at 6:00 at their house.

Poof, I've just entered that event in my google calendar.

www.lifehacker.com had a great article about this, and although I've had 
to stumble my way through setting up a couple of these key words, it seems 
pretty useful so far.

Does anyone know if this is possible in IE?  Not really sure if I care as 
FireFox is very slowly drawing me in.  And IE has been pissing me off 
recently.  But a lot of people prefer IE, so just thought it would be 
helpful to them if someone knew about keyword browsing there.

Of course, maybe I am way far behind the times, and everyone has been 
doing this for the last couple of years.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Are My Messages Coming to the List, was, pleas tell me

2011-03-19 Thread Moderator

Thank you for changing the subject line to reflect the topic.

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From: Mike  Barbara In Arcadia mb69ma...@charter.net

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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Are My Messages Coming to the List, was,pleas 
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Hi Rana;

Yes they are!  There, you've been told!  LOL  LOL

Take care.
Mike

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 From: rana ayaz

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 Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 9:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


 very very thanks for reply
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 Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] pleas tell me


  Your messages are being received.  Don't worry.  It takes Yahoo a while
to
  get around to messages.
 
  John
 
 
  JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
  WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY
  PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net
 
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  hellow r u receive my e-mail messages ?because i think my messages r 
not
  send att all group members pleas iff u receive my mail so pleas reply 
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[Blind-Computing] iTunes For Windows, F6 and no search results

2011-03-19 Thread Brad Dunse'
Running XP Pro, Jaws 12, iTunes Version 10.2.1.1.  Is there a fix for 
the F6 not working once you are in iTunes Store and in the results 
area as it will not let you out? And more importantly no matter what 
I put in for a search string, iTunes  will only pull up the same junk 
of American Idol, Justin Timberlake, latest hits,  movies, TV shows, 
and anything else they have on that main page. It won't find anything 
I type in the search field.


Brad


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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Mich

Hello kenny
to my knollige there is no such thing as a voice activated computer if you 
mien a computer that is able to be activated by your voice and is usable for 
blind people. how ever there are several programs that make using the 
computer easier for the blind these are screen readers and the most popular 
screen readers are jaws for windows and window eyes. there are also a few 
open source screen readers like nvda and system access. I hope this helps. 
from Mich.
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:30 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching



hello, i am brand new to this type of group and to the whole subject of
blind computing.  when i started searching for computers for the blind i 
was

surprised because I thought I would find a lot of great voice activated
computers that would make it easy... all i see so far are some clunky 
screen

readers

can someone tell me what the best voice controlled computer for the blind
is?

thanks
kenny
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Re: [Blind-Computing] new to blind computing and searching

2011-03-19 Thread Dan Rossi

Kenny,

Ah, I see.  What you are looking for is an artificial intelligence.  They 
don't exist yet.  Although, Watson made it look pretty real.


Just because a computer can turn your speech into machine readable text, 
doesn't mean it understands what you are saying.


If you wanted to tell your computer go to facebook, update my status, 
then someone would have had to program all the commands that it requires 
to do those things, then program the speech recognition system to execute 
those commands when it receives your commands.


I'm not saying it can't be done, but for that system to work for more than 
a couple of web sites, or a few dozen commands, it would be pretty 
complex.


Sorry, but computers just aren't quite that smart yet.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Keyword browsing.

2011-03-19 Thread Dan Rossi

Kimsan,

Sorry, but as far as I can tell, the google toolbar keyword thing is 
different than the keyword feature in FireFox.  In google toolbar, it 
seems to work more like the instant browsing on google, as you type words 
into your address bar, it offers web sites that it thinks you want to go 
to.


With a keyword in FireFox, it is just like setting up a shortcut to a web 
site.  Instead of typing www.google.com, you can just type g, if you have 
set up g as a keyword for www.google.com.


Also, if you setup your g keyword to be www.google.com/search?q=%s then 
you could just type g turboencabulator in the address bar and you would 
immediately be brought to the google search results page as if you had 
gone to google and typed turboencabulator into the search box and hit 
enter.


It's pretty slick.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Keyword browsing.

2011-03-19 Thread kimsan
Dan:
Thanks for the clarification. I have FF on my system but never used it. I
should start and try out your neat little trick, sounds slick, as you say.
I just thought I would try and see if IE can do the same but apparently it
doesn't.
Take care.


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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dan Rossi
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 7:21 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Keyword browsing.

Kimsan,

Sorry, but as far as I can tell, the google toolbar keyword thing is 
different than the keyword feature in FireFox.  In google toolbar, it 
seems to work more like the instant browsing on google, as you type words 
into your address bar, it offers web sites that it thinks you want to go 
to.

With a keyword in FireFox, it is just like setting up a shortcut to a web 
site.  Instead of typing www.google.com, you can just type g, if you have 
set up g as a keyword for www.google.com.

Also, if you setup your g keyword to be www.google.com/search?q=%s then 
you could just type g turboencabulator in the address bar and you would 
immediately be brought to the google search results page as if you had 
gone to google and typed turboencabulator into the search box and hit 
enter.

It's pretty slick.

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Re: [Blind-Computing] Keyword browsing.

2011-03-19 Thread Dan Rossi

Kimsan,

Try out FireFox, it's not too bad to get started.  It took a long  time 
for me to start using it because I thought there would be this steep 
learning curve, but there isn't.  Webvisum, to solve CAPTCHAs is what 
really sold me.  And then I found the keyword thing.


IE 9 may have keywords, but I have no idea.


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Re: [Blind-Computing] iTunes For Windows, F6 and no search results

2011-03-19 Thread for...@lode.is
F6 is broken (Apple broke it in 10.2).
It's annoying but iTunes is still usable.
The tricky part is to get out of the iTunes store but there's a workaround.

To search the iTunes store:

- Select the iTunes store from the sources list.
You should hear a woosh-sound - this means that the page has loaded/refreshed.

- Now press F6 and you should land in the search box.
Type in what you are looking for and press Enter and wait for the woosh-sound.

- Press F6 to move focus to the iTunes store.
You may need to wait a while (I had to wait afew seconds) before you start 
navigating the store.
Press ctrl-home to move to the top.
JAWS should announce iTunes Store or something similar.
You are good to go.
You can now navigate your search results with standard web navigation (virtual 
cursor)

- When done or if you want to perform a new search:

Press Ctrl-Alt-f.
This will move focus to the search box.
Repeat the steps above to perform a new search.

If your intention is to get out of the iTunes store:

Press Ctrl-Alt-f to move focus to the search box.
Then press Shift-F6 and you should be back in the sources list.

This works, but let's hope Apple fixes the F6 key soon.

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[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brad Dunse'
Sent: 19. mars 2011 22:53
To: Blind Computing
Subject: [Blind-Computing] iTunes For Windows, F6 and no search results

Running XP Pro, Jaws 12, iTunes Version 10.2.1.1.  Is there a fix for 
the F6 not working once you are in iTunes Store and in the results 
area as it will not let you out? And more importantly no matter what 
I put in for a search string, iTunes  will only pull up the same junk 
of American Idol, Justin Timberlake, latest hits,  movies, TV shows, 
and anything else they have on that main page. It won't find anything 
I type in the search field.

Brad


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