The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 325 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: 6er and reviews Re: 6er and moronic reviews Oil pan sealant?? Re: Oil pan sealant?? Jenny - Isetta update? Re: <E36> Where to buy Z3 reinforcement plates for RSMs Re: Too g_dd_mn funny... [NO CAR CONTENT WHATSOEVER] BMW Hand brake cable lengths Re: 318i '84 E30 Vibration on Acceleration
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 6er and reviews Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Robinson, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And some of the ugliest stock wheels made IMO (not > that they > > aren't easily changed). > > I have to agree here. However, the available 17" > 7-spokes are quite nice > looking. AC Schnitzer's website has a flash interface with the new 6. Their new Type IV wheels (19" I believe) look great on the new 6. I too, though, am a bit unmoved by the new 6's styling, although I don't know if I could so much say it looks like an Accord. > I liked the sedans better than the coupes, but I > like the somewhat more > muscular stance of the pre-facelifted E46s. What?! The newer E46s have a much more muscular appearance to me. The trimmed out headlights give it more of a 'growl' feeling IMO. It seems to me the suspension is a tiny bit lower too? Maybe I'm just imagining, but in combination those make the car have both a beefier presence as well as a more muscular look. Cars with design in the front where it looks like the car just sucks up pavement like a vaccuum look pretty good to me. The E24 M6 is a good example of the kind of look I'm thinking of, and I think the facelift on the E46 has given a bit of that same look to it. > > Lee > Brian _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:51:42 -0700 From: John Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 6er and moronic reviews Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've noticed significant age-based divide in responses to the new BMW > design trends: younger people love them, geezers hate them. Most of the > latter also like the older, more conservative BMW designs and steadily > migrate towards Mercs. That may be so, but Daimler-Benz so far also has the legs on BMW engine-wise, and ergonomically, and...just about everywhere but the chassis. We'll see how the new M5 pans out in real-world driving. > As BMW CCA is aging, guess what opinion is getting a lot of airtime... ;-) I just see a lot of joke-junk in the new shapes. The E60 and E65 and whatever the 6 is are all well-proportioned, but they're all junked-up with bad details. I don't even mind the Banglebutt on the E65, it's the tall, blunt nose and the lousy German-hotel-room interior that puts me off. Same story with the E60. I guess I'm also old enough to hate the Cadillac CTS shape. The CTS-V, on the other hand, is the exact opposite of recent BMWs. The Bimmers are good basic shapes ruined by bad, junky detailing, the CTS-V is a lousy basic shape saved by absolutely perfect detail design. The new STS is also looking spectacularly good in photos - better basic proportions than the CTS, and a really sweet, conservative interior. Me, praising Cadillacs? Think I'll stop off at Safeway on my way to the gym and pick up some Depends, I'm obviously going to need them in the not too distant future. > For the record, I LOVE the Z4, the new 6 and the E90 (the new 3). The Z4 is great from 100 feet away. Once again good proportions, crappy detailing. The 6 is a friggin' Camry Solara, right down to the ridiculous gouges in the hood, but (at least) without the minivan-height beltline of the Camry. The interior, at least, is more BMW than the E60, though as is typical in the Bangle era they're trailing along with the Japanese trends in slathering the thing with aluminum-finish trim all over the place. > I also like the iDrive, with all of its imperfections, though I would not > mind to see some controls physically duplicated (like radio). iDrive is a good basic idea, needing a whole different control metaphor somehow. > As for the NYT reviews - they were amateurish: comparing the 6er to > Mustangs and Pontiacs, regretting that plebeians might get thier hands on > such cars once they depreciate, etc. Not from my perspective - I wouldn't spend $80K on a car like the 6. $35K on a GTO, absolutely. Even a Mustang Cobra, flawed as it is. I can see spending $80K on a sedan, though with the STi and the Evo and the CTS-V and the 300C and the S4 on the market you can do very well for a good bit less. If someone offered me a nice plated, documented Trans Am Boss 302 Mustang racer for $80K I just might set the checkbook on fire scribbling out the check. But things like the 6 just aren't real cars to me. It's in the Rodeo Drive Shopping Cart category. Even the SL is more of a 'real' car. I am looking forward to the new SLK55, though - the shape ain't much but, if a brief ride-and-drive experience in an SLK350 is any indication, the interior's perfect for a two-seater and it's gonna be really, really nice to run hard in. Frankly, the best-looking new car I've seen lately is the Maser Quattroporte. Far, far nicer in person than in pictures. Don't think squat of the coupe, but the sedan proportions are just about perfect, and they haven't grossly compromised its usability and outward visibility (e.g. Mercedes CLS) to get it. They've got the beltline down where it belongs on a car, not one of these minivan-as-sedan designs e.g. Camry, 300C, CTS, the upcoming big-bathtub Ford Five Hundred. $90K with a 400HP V8. They need a version with the 575M's V12. At that point it'd be worth damn near whatever they price it at. Shame...there's so much of the aesthetic of that car that's reminiscent of what Infiniti tried to do in the '90s and gave up. Would have been nice if they'd had the courage of their convictions. Almost makes me want to go out and buy another early Q45. John. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:19:01 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Oil pan sealant?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone have a recommendation for sealant to use with the OE oilpan gasket for my 330i? TIS specifies Drei Bond 1209 and when I asked about this at my BMW dealer parts counter they looked at me like I was nuts and told me to just use silicone sealant. The guy at my local NAPA recommended the black RTV but I wanted to see if anyone here had a better sugestion. TIA for any info. Regards Jamie Howton ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:30:54 -0500 From: Jenny Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jamie Howton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oil pan sealant?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you are going to use a sealant... My favorite is Permatex "the right stuff". Dumb name great product. USE IT SPARINGLY!!! The biggest mistake DIYers do is to glop on sealant like it is toothpaste. It is not. As the parts come together most squeezes out, so why waste a bunch to begin with... Skim it on.. and it'll stay out of your moving parts. Jenny Morgan On Aug 19, 2004, at 4:19 PM, Jamie Howton wrote: > Does anyone have a recommendation for sealant to use with the OE oilpan > gasket for my 330i? TIS specifies Drei Bond 1209 and when I asked > about > this at my BMW dealer parts counter they looked at me like I was nuts > and told me to just use silicone sealant. The guy at my local NAPA > recommended the black RTV but I wanted to see if anyone here had a > better sugestion. > > TIA for any info. > > Regards > > Jamie Howton > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > ___ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:52:56 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jenny - Isetta update? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Waitin' for new pics! - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:19:09 -0400 From: Brian Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: <E36> Where to buy Z3 reinforcement plates for RSMs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lots of other places have them as well. A nice feature some of them offer is that the plates have studs pressed in. That way you drop the plate in from the top and the nuts go in the wheel well. That way next time the RSMs need replacement you don't need to pull out the trunk liner. Just remove the two nuts, swap the RSM and replace the nuts - 10-minute job. Here's one source: http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RE&Product_Code=RSM_PLATE&Category_Code=S Brian '94 325ic Robinson, Lee wrote: >Dealer item.....well under $20. > >Lee > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Craven >>Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:56 >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: [UUC] <E36> Where to buy Z3 reinforcement plates for RSMs >> >> >>Is this a dealer item or ??? >> >>Regards, >>Paul Craven >>97 M3 4 - Driven 1 mile each day on gravel >> >>Search the >>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>______________________________________________________________ >>____________ >>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of >>the BMW CCA. >> >>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> >> >> >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:59:15 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Simon Leigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Too g_dd_mn funny... [NO CAR CONTENT WHATSOEVER] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Great story! Have to say I can really relate to it after spending 6 mos downunder from Oct last yr to April this yr. I saw the Croc Hunter himself about 3 weeks after his stunt of taking his infant into the "Crocoseum" during a feeding. At first I thought it was all being blown way all out proportion (hey, he's an expert and knew what he was doing, right?). Then I saw his knee go out on him when he had a 13 foot croc coming at him with raw meat in his hand. He had to stop the feeding and get his mate Wes to take over. Apparently he'd had knee surgery just recently (probably about 2 wks before his stunt that got him in trouble!) and it was still "giving him some trouble". About as close as I've ever seen somebody to getting eaten by a croc! (Crikey, isn't she gorgeous?!!) The Aussies are a great bunch of folks to work (and play) with. I dove the Great Barrier Reef and toured 4 different wine regions (20 wineries total!), and saw Handel's Messiah in the Sydney Opera House among many other awesome experiences (no cow tipping though :-). Even toured New Zealand for a few days on my way home! (Bloody Kiwis!) Met some of the BMW club of Queensland members on RAAF Base Amberley where I was working for 2 mos while there thanks to Simon Leigh of this list (Thanks much Simon!). Am just now catching my breath and getting back on the list due to much domestic traveling since my return but thoroughly enjoyed my trip and my 92 325i is still running great thanks to biweekly driving by a good friend while I was away! (I guess I could call this OBMWC since that was the advice I got from most of the list on my last posting before I left on my trip!). Cheers! Phil 92 E36/M50 BMWCCA #187903 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "911" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "BMW List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ferrari List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: [UUC] Too g_dd_mn funny... [NO CAR CONTENT WHATSOEVER] > Off-topic! But really amusing! Especially late at night! > > Caution - no nudity, but the f-bomb is thrown a couple of times: > > http://www.ubersite.com/m/14857 > > vty, > > --Dennis > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ________________________________________________________________________ __ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:52:25 +0000 From: "Gregory Bradbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BMW Hand brake cable lengths Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm puting a Farmobil (BMW 700 powertrain & brakes) back on the road and have nearly all the parts to redo the brakes from A to Z, except the handbrake cables. I would need help from anyone with a table (or cables they can measure) to see where they got these from. The LOOK like BMW 700 / New Class / 2002 cables but they are MUCH longer than those used on 700. The measurements are: CRITICAL: cable length (approx), 2.23 M (87 inches) CAN BE LONGER: flexible tube section (approx), 66 cm (26 inches) So would anyone have a hand brake cable to measure (or a table) for my quest. Potential cars (with rear drum brakes) would be: New Class 4 door, 2000 CS, 2002, 2800CS, E12 (Euro), E21, etc. For those who want a digital photo of the cable, I can send this as well. TIA, Gregory in Geneva ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:24:03 -0400 From: "Art Ream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 318i '84 E30 Vibration on Acceleration Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Afternoon everyone, Final update on the vibration for reference... The M10 motor slid to the drivers side of the car on the old mounts. Just about 1 1/4" too far and this killed the Transmission rubber mounts. Sheered the rubber in two... Replacement and a little TLC... Equals= No vibration gone, just hope the flex disk and center drive shaft bearing are OK. Nothing sounds wrong now but who know... Thanks for all the help. Art -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 318i '84 E30 Vibration on Acceleration Yes, it could be a motor mount or transmission mount problem. On the M20 motor, the passenger side motor mount is notoriously weak. The trans mounts go bad if the rear trans seal is leaking lube on them. On the M20-equipped cars, I've had both mounts fail at different times, but it did not result in a vibration. But since you have the M10, I can't tell you that this is not the case. Alex Cagann mentioned the flex disc, which, along with the driveshaft center support bearing, are common failure items too. But they turn at road speed, and you said your vibration is engine-speed-related. Offhand, I don't know any other common causes of engine speed vibrations. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA >Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:10:02 -0400 >From: "Art Ream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: 318i '84 E30 Vibration on Acceleration >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <snip> > > When I accelerate in any gear there is a significant vibration which is >directly proportional to the engine's rpm. Now, when in 5 gear running at >around 50-55 mph, this is reduced significantly but the engine is not under >load. Now if the speed and engine rpm are increased to running at 60-70 a >constant vibration happens. Noisy as all Hell... > > Could this be engine mounts? Transmission Mounts? > > I have no idea what to look at first on this one... > >Thanks in advance for any suggestions and advice. > >Art Ream >'84 BMW 318i E30 ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(9 messages) **********