[bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)

2005-06-27 Thread bmwuucdigest-owner
The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 714 : text Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E30 Steering Rack Question
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: NASCAR safety WAS [USGP F1 aka: Bridgestone Tire Test]
  Any comments on AT Italia Wheels?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?

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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:53:00 -0700
From: donna seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Bad Chip?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It weighs less, as everyone except Ben knows.  Stroking it to 2.7L removed
exactly 53.788 lbs (24.499 kg).  Therefore, the chevron seals are less
stressed, and the incoming air is cooler.  QED.

Donna
not weighin' nothin'

On 6/26/05 7:43 PM, Rich Dorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What makes you believe the M20B27 is more reliable than the M20B25?
 
 Regards,
 
 Rich
 
 -Original Message-
 
 My whole reason for getting the B27 over the B25 was the reliability of
 the ETA.  I drive 70 miles a day (six days a week) to and from work,
 school, and back home.  I have a year left and then I will probably
 upgrade to something else before grad. school.  I am so amazed at how
 reliable this car is.  Every morning I turn the key and it starts right
 up.  It is a great improvement over my M10 E21 that I used to drive
 everyday (I had to rebuild it twice in six years due to oil pump issues
 and missing a gear with the dog leg tranny(when I was 16:))).  I don't
 want to do anything to the the E30 that will compromise the integrity of
 its purpose. thanks Barry and Gary.
 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
 
 
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 In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
 
 UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
 Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Donna 
-- 
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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:02:07 -0400
From: Rich Dorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bob Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED], bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bob,

Welcome to a topic that Brett and Mark D love to talk about, I will let them
take it from here.

Later,

Rich

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Moore
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:50 PM
 To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
 Subject: [UUC] E46 Extended oil change interval?


 Looked at an E46 328i I was considering buying today...'99, 64K
 miles...beautiful car...I was astounded after having looked under the
 valve cover, through the oil filler hole. I couldn't believe the dark
 brown, crusty residue all over everything I could see. This thing looked
 like it had 164K neglected miles on it to me. Owner says he had the oil
 changed at the dealer about every 10K...though the recommended interval
 is 15K. What's going on here? Is this typical of those cars that are
 maintained according to BMWs recommendations? Wow.


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Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 23:16:28 -0400
From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

BMW makes money from selling new cars.  New cars get purchased to 
replace old cars.  Old cars need replacing more often with revised oil 
change intervals of 15K miles.  15K-mile oil change intervals 
advertised as customer convenience.  Instant accountant-approved 
marketing scheme.

Brett, Mark, Rich, does that about sum it up?

- Rob


On Jun 26, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Rich Dorffer wrote:

 Bob,

 Welcome to a topic that Brett and Mark D love to talk about, I will 
 let them
 take it from here.

 Later,

 Rich

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Moore
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:50 PM
 To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
 Subject: [UUC] E46 Extended oil change interval?


 Looked at an E46 328i I was considering buying today...'99, 64K
 miles...beautiful car...I was astounded after having looked under the
 valve cover, through the oil filler hole. I couldn't believe the dark
 brown, crusty residue all over everything I could see. This thing 
 looked
 like it had 164K neglected miles on it to me. Owner says he had the 
 oil
 changed at the dealer about every 10K...though the recommended 
 interval
 is 15K. What's 

[bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages)

2005-06-27 Thread bmwuucdigest-owner
The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 715 : text Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E36, 39, 46 Microfilters
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Bad Chip?
  Re: Any comments on AT Italia Wheels?
  Re: Any comments on AT Italia Wheels?
  Re: Bad chip  - the folly
  Re: Bad chip  - the folly

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:38:59 -0400
From: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bob Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED], bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Are you looking at engine parts or the baffle inside the fill hole?  Pull 
the valve cover and look at actual engine parts before drawing a conclusion.

Gary Derian


 Looked at an E46 328i I was considering buying today...'99, 64K 
 miles...beautiful car...I was astounded after having looked under the 
 valve cover, through the oil filler hole. I couldn't believe the dark 
 brown, crusty residue all over everything I could see. This thing looked 
 like it had 164K neglected miles on it to me. Owner says he had the oil 
 changed at the dealer about every 10K...though the recommended interval 
 is 15K. What's going on here? Is this typical of those cars that are 
 maintained according to BMWs recommendations? Wow.

 Bob
 Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com


 __
 In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.

 UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
 Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com 


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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:14:54 -0500
From: Bob Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Cc: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That's a fair point...I just looked at whatever one can see through the 
fill hole and the bottom of the cap, of course...but it was really ugly  
(relative to what I expected). I'm still pessimistic...but maybe I'll be 
surprised.

Bob

Gary Derian wrote:

 Are you looking at engine parts or the baffle inside the fill hole?  
 Pull the valve cover and look at actual engine parts before drawing a 
 conclusion.

 Gary Derian




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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:49:58 -0400
From: Gaudio, Stefano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know I'm going to get in trouble for this, but to be FAIR here is
another data point:
http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html 


Stefano
'98 M3 with 95K miles stock engine still going strong ( did I mention
~5K miles oil filter changes and ~10K miles synthetic oil changes?)  ;-) 
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:06:46 -0500
From: Neil Maller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: E36, 39, 46 Microfilters
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

on 6/26/05 9:53 PM, Harvey Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I sent them [BMP Design] two successive e-mails about a week apart to
 their  customer service inquiring about this and asking about the charcoal
 filters, I was totally ignored.
 Buyer BEWARE!!
 Harvey

That's been my universal experience with BMP. I occasionally buy something
from them when there's a compelling reason, but they're certainly not on my
A List of online vendors.

Neil
Fort Wayne, IN
96 M3  - Bastard child
03 525iT   - Sterling Grey Metallic
77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell
05 Mini- Cooper S with LSD!




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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:07:19 -0500
From: Jamie Howton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], UUC Digest bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Bad Chip?
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 6/27/05, Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Engine wear is time dependent, not revolutions dependent.  Using
 non-scientific analysis to form scientific conclusions is folly.

Maybe I don't understand what you are trying to say here Gary, but
this doesn't 

[bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages)

2005-06-27 Thread bmwuucdigest-owner
The BMW UUC Digest 
Volume 2 : Issue 716 : text Format

Messages in this Issue:
  Re: Bad chip  - the folly
  Re: Bad chip  - the folly
  Re: Bad chip  - the folly
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Need Alpina part info
  Re: Need Alpina part info
  Need car-bra part info
  Re: E36 microfilter replacement (fwd)
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  Re: E46 Extended oil change interval?
  RE E36, E39, E46  Micro Filters.

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:16:25 -0700
From: T WALROD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: bmw digest bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Bad chip  - the folly
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You prattle to my profit.  So engine wear hour meters focus solely on block 
wear?  Valves and seals and bearings and such are incidental to the question 
of when do we have to bore or hone the block?

A thought:  why is there a ridge at the un-oiled top of the cylinder?  No 
rubbing, but maximum heat, pressure and presumably corrosion.  Protective 
carbon layer?

Tom (hour meter wouldn't have guarded against my ham-handed timing chain 
tensioner installation)

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: T WALROD [EMAIL PROTECTED]; bmw digest bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Bad chip - the folly


 Let me prattle on a bit more.

 Warm and lubricated surfaces don't touch and don't wear.  Of course, all
 cycles are not perfect, so there is some touching and wear, but for 
 cylinder
 walls, the main wear action is from corrosion.

 After the power stroke, the high heat and pressure cause the piston rings 
 to
 scrape the oil off the walls.  They are then exposed to the corrosive
 combustion gases.  On overlap, the lightly loaded piston returns and 
 places
 a coat of oil on the cylinder wall stopping the corrosion.  The exposure
 time depends only on the operating time, not the number of revolutions.

 Note that cylinders wear more at the top of the stroke where exposure time
 is longer.

 Gary Derian


  This statement could use some clarification.  I won't be obtuse and
  pretend that you are saying that the dusty NOS engine sitting on the 
  shelf
  is rapidly wearing out, and understand that boats, airplanes, and heavy
  equipment have hour meters.  What is not obvious is why revolutions, 
  which
  translate into distance that friction surfaces are dragged (bearings,
  rings/cylinder walls) and number of forces applied (piston direction
  changes), are not the better indicator.  Does oiling become so inferior 
  at
  idle?  Rich friction enhancing mixture?  Greater engine load climbing a
  grade at low rpms vs. zooming down the other side?  Why is time the
  superior gauge?
 
  Tom (background music: Flings, nothing more than flings)
 
 Engine wear is time dependent, not revolutions dependent.  Using
 non-scientific analysis to form scientific conclusions is folly.
 
 Gary Derian

 

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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:22:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Dorffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Bad chip  - the folly
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Apparently you don't always profit from everyone's prattling.

;-)

Later,

Rich

--- T WALROD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You prattle to my profit.  
 
 Tom (hour meter wouldn't have guarded against my ham-handed timing chain 
 tensioner installation)
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Derian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: T WALROD [EMAIL PROTECTED]; bmw digest bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:42 AM
 Subject: Re: Bad chip - the folly
 
 
  Let me prattle on a bit more.
 
  Warm and lubricated surfaces don't touch and don't wear.  Of course, all
  cycles are not perfect, so there is some touching and wear, but for 
  cylinder
  walls, the main wear action is from corrosion.
 
  After the power stroke, the high heat and pressure cause the piston rings 
  to
  scrape the oil off the walls.  They are then exposed to the corrosive
  combustion gases.  On overlap, the lightly loaded piston returns and 
  places
  a coat of oil on the cylinder wall stopping the corrosion.  The exposure
  time depends only on the operating time, not the number of revolutions.
 
  Note that cylinders wear more at the top of the stroke where exposure time
  is longer.
 
  Gary Derian
 
 
   This statement could use some clarification.  I won't be obtuse and
   pretend that you are saying that the dusty NOS engine sitting on the 
   shelf
   is rapidly wearing out, and understand that boats, airplanes, and heavy
   equipment have hour meters.  What is not obvious is why revolutions, 
   which
   translate into distance that friction surfaces are dragged (bearings,