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  Re: Is this normal?
  Re: Experience - Aftermarket Body Panels?
  Re: Experience - Aftermarket Body Panels?
  Re: Is this normal?
  <E36> windshield: OEM or PPG?

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:35:42 -0500
From: John Grills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: aaron b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Is this normal?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not normal...I'd ask about it. The answer should tell you quite a bit  
about the person.

Why do sellers always take photos of the stereo? A CD changer costs  
$200, one of the cheapest items on the car. Never ceases to amaze me.

cheers!
John Grills
98 M3/4
88 M3
87 iC
On Dec 16, 2005, at 2:16 PM, aaron b wrote:

>  http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2817/trunk0xq.jpg
>
> Looking at some photos of a vehicle for sale online,
> it's an e36 M3. Car looked quite clean but this shot
> of the Cd changer, showed something which looks a bit
> odd behind it (arrowed).
>
> Although you can't tell too much from a photo, it
> looks to me like some kind of sealant or bodyfiller
> even.
>
> Could anyone shed some light please on whether this is
> normal (i.e messy sealant from the factory, in a spot
> which doesn't/shouldn't show), or whether this looks
> like cause for concern or evidence of a repair?
>
> Thanks for any insight on this.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:36:49 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Justin Weese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: Experience - Aftermarket Body Panels?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In 1993 we used an aftermarket fender on an '83 E28. I'm not positive, 
but I thought it came from Bav Auto.  There was no problem w/the fit 
and, when finished, everything looked good. A body shop did this work.

However, about 2 years later the car was in another bad front end 
collision.  When we removed the replaced fender it had as much, if not 
more, rust on the inner surface than the still original fender on the 
other side.  The aftermarket sheetmetal seemed lighter and thinner than 
the original; it certainly could be bent easier.

When our '93 525iT was hit a 2 years ago, I would have paid the 
difference between aftermarket and OEM had the insurance not done so.

Just a rambling thought, but if aftermarket pieces are of a lesser 
quality material, what effect may that have in reducing safety in an 
accident?

If I were to use aftermarket again, and that's if, I would probably 
scuff and paint the inner surfaces as well as possible as a corrossion 
preventive measure.  If a shop is doing the work, the price difference 
will fade.

YMMV

Clarence
West Bend, WI

Justin Weese wrote:
> I'm looking to buy some front end e30 sheet metal to
> fix a front clip as inexpensively as possible.  Has
> anyone had any experience buying aftermarket BMW sheet
> metal from places like partstrain.com or
> carpartswholesale.com?  Prices are excellent compared
> to genuine BMW, and aftermarket doesn't bother me as
> they'll be going on a daily driver.
> 
> Any good/bad experiences would be much appreciated! 
> My main concerns are fitment and possible freight
> damage.
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> 
> -Justin Weese

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:39:02 -0800
From: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: Experience - Aftermarket Body Panels?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Clarence wrote:
> other side.  The aftermarket sheetmetal seemed lighter and thinner than 
> the original; it certainly could be bent easier.

Really?  How much lighter?  :)


Brian, racecar projects dancing in his head


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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:34:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: aaron b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Is this normal?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for the advice all.

It's a coupe not a sedan, and I don't know about the
VIN stickers (car isn't local). I had a feeling it
looked suspect, glad to hear that confirmed.

The vehicle was listed on ebay, I'm very undecided as
to whether that's a good or bad place to be looking.
So much more selection obviously, but once I've
factored in a plane ticket to go and look, or an
inspection etc, I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Accident damage/repairs are the main thing I want to
avoid, I'm thinking you can spot a fair bit of this
from the pictures but not all obviously.

Thanks again for the help!


        
        
                
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:34:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: <E36> windshield: OEM or PPG?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hey all,

I did a look through the archives, but I thought I'd
bring the topic up again to see if thoughts have
changed (relatively).  I need to replace the
windshield in my E36, and although I recall some
threads in the not so distant past about windshield
brands for replacement, I am unsure what the consensus
was (or if there was one) regarding preferred
replacement brand.  I DO know Levinson likes his OEM
glass for all the BMW logos and knicknacks, and a
guaranteed fit, but I don't know really know what most
others think. :)  I do recall hearing that OEM glass
is a bit softer/more prone to chips and pits(?)  What
do you all think?  I was thinking also about
structural considerations, which I guess are moot if
the oem glass is softer and the PPG is harder. 
Fitment-wise, is the PPG as good (or better) than OEM?
 Opinions welcome, as well as names of any good
windshield installation places in the Los Angeles area
that anyone has had very good experience with. ;)

Thanks,
Brian
95 M3

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