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  Re: [bimmerheads] BMP plastic pulley warning Valid??
  Re: [bimmerheads] BMP plastic pulley warning Valid??

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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:43:52 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] BMP plastic pulley warning Valid??
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We've never seen one fail in my shop.. 4 years and counting.

Jon
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Jon Siccardi - DM #053
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M50conversion.com
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Harvey Chao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bay Area Bimmerheads" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
<bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>; "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
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Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [UUC] [bimmerheads] BMP plastic pulley warning Valid??


> Score is now 6 replies, sort of 3 and 3,
>
> 3 - no, haven't heard or no issue to date
> 1 -  "ducked a bullet" on a water pump pulley that fell apart as the  belt 
> was being re-installed
> 1  - "heard about this on Rovers when BMW owned Rover
> 1 - seen faiure of idler and tensioner but seems related to pulley's 
> bearing failure first (see below)
> On Sep 23, 2006, at 12:44 PM,
>
>> At 08:36 PM 9/22/2006, Harvey Chao wrote:
>>
>> >So I get this BMP news letter, one entry of which is a warning about
>> >late model (post '92 build) engines with serpentine belts that use
>> >plastic pulleys that crack and fracture with nasty secondary
>> >consequences.
>>
>> I haven't seen any drive pulley failures (except for chips out of  the 
>> edges
>> of the water pump pulleys from being dropped during a water pump
>> replacement), but I have seen failures of the idler and tensioner
>> pulleys. My guess is that when the bearing fails, the ribs that  support
>> the outside of the pulley are overstressed, causing the outside of the
>> pulley to separate from the hub. I've seen this on the M50-based 
>> engines,
>> but that doesn't mean that it can't happen on any of the other  engines.
>>
>> However, this isn't something that happens without warning. The  bearings
>> usually start to make noise long before they fail. My  recommendation is 
>> to
>> check the idler and tensioner pulleys whenever you have the belts  off -
>> just give them a spin to see if the bearing is making any noise,  and 
>> wiggle
>> them to check for play. If you have a mechanic's stethoscope (or  use the
>> old long screwdriver trick), listen to the pulleys with the engine 
>> idling
>> (be very careful not to get anything caught in any of the moving
>> parts...). If you hear a noisy bearing, replace the pulley.
>>
>>
>> __,_._,___
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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:53:23 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: [bimmerheads] BMP plastic pulley warning Valid??
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To date, we've had a 98 528i that lost it's power steering pulley, broke 
in 3.  Pulley had obvious signs of distress from being dropped or worse, 
and it failed about 4 minutes after being removed, and re-installed.

We've also seen some M52/M54 alternator idler and tensioner pulleys that 
  have come in with the belt running directly on the bearing, after the 
plastic wheel has disappeared.

We see a lot of cars, so these few failures that we have seen are 
showing the problem to be very rare.


Brett Anderson
KMS-Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
(440) 564 7574
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We've never seen one fail in my shop.. 4 years and counting.
> 
> Jon
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