[steering-discuss] Re: missing tomorrow's marketing call

2010-12-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Drew,

drew wrote on 2010-12-01 04.29:

I did not expect to be able to make this call, but it looks now as if
yes I can.

If it is just a matter of punching in a special ID in order to open the
lines, then to move the agenda along, I can do that.


thanks a lot! I just configured the room so that dial-in is possible 
with the regular PIN. As soon as two people dial-in, the conference is 
up. What would be good is a moderator, who takes care that discussion 
goes. :-)


Thanks again,
Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-01 Thread Olivier Hallot

Hi

Some thoughts and questions from my personal experience:

1) I am a bit concerned of the definition of project: It looks like TDF 
will foster several software projects, which is fine for me, but then 
(may be I am a bit biased by OOo structure), how do we manage NLC, L10n, 
Marketing and other projects? Does software development include all 
these activities?


2) I really appreciate *oxygenation*. Letting a chairman ad aeternam 
in place is a source of trouble and will let him build strong and 
unbreakable ties with the BoD, the employees and selected sectarian 
members of the Foundation (the goodfellas), aiming to preserve his 
status and position and offering whatever is needed to keep support on him.


A one or two year term with one further nominaton will ensure fresh air 
(sort of) to the TDF Chairmanship. The leaving chairman can be 
reconducted later, but only after another one took his place for at 
least xxx month.


Oxygenation also improves governance and transparency.

3) About disputes: It seems that the disputes will be settled inside 
TDF by the BoD, then the Chairman. Question: Is it advisable, for the 
sake of transparency, to let the members decide as the upper instance?


4) On conflict of interest, I personnaly prefer 20% figure instead of 30%.

5) Should any member of the Membership Committee (MC) have a veto power?

5a) Oh, by the way, what is the decision process of the MC with respect 
to the aplication? votes by simple majority, 2/3 members, 4/5?


6) How many members will take place in the MC and how are they 
appointed, for how long, how often they meet?


Are we going to allow memebers of the BoD, AB, and the Chariman to be in 
the MC?


7) If a Member stops contributing, such that the merit criteria are no 
longer met, membership status will be revoked after a certain period of 
time.


Does it means that a founding member of the TDF will be revoked if 
he/she does not participate on a xxx period of time? Shall we give them 
a honorary membership (dangerous).


Regards,

Em 29-11-2010 15:23, Charles-H. Schulz escreveu:

Hello everyone,

Here is the latest version of the bylaws:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws

Latest change include mostly amended details on the Chairperson, as
well as some more details on the BoD and a bit more clarity on
salaries, expenses, etc.

Since we've been discussing this for quite some time now, we would
welcome your comments on this list until this week-end. If no strong
veto is cast until then, we'll consider them to be adopted.

David, as usual, please feel free to review the language... thanks!



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Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-01 Thread David Nelson
Hi Charles, SC guys :-)

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 01:23, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 David, as usual, please feel free to review the language... thanks!

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1) Would it perhaps be useful to add a definition for the term
community under section 1.1, Definitions?

2) Would it maybe be better to move the 4 definitions under section 3,
Governance, to section 1.1, Definitions?

I added a lot of reviewer's notes inline in the text because I felt it
would be much easier for you to follow what I was saying. IMHO, the
section on voting, section 5 at the end, needs quite a bit of
attention. I took the liberty of trying to reorganize it somewhat, to
make it clearer and more understandable... In reality, that has kind
of seeded places where you might want to do more writing?

I also worked on the format of the doc a bit, and inserted links where
there were cross-references in the text...

Perhaps we might be able to talk about all this in Friday's SC confcall?

HTH. ;-)

David Nelson


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