[board-discuss] Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
Hello, As the Design team has selected the startscreen and splashscreen for the upcoming 4.0 release several members of the Board of Directors have felt the choice was not acceptable for a variety of reasons (too white, too simple, non-standard logo, not enough green...). In general it is not up to the BoD to decide on UX and designs. The reactions to the choice of the graphical elements for the 4.0 were, however, quite vocal. I would therefore like to ask the BoD to propose an alternative choice (and vote on it ASAP), which would be to ship LibreOffice 4.0 with a slightly modified 3.6.x Splashscreen and StartCenter (the modifications being the inclusion of the number 4 on them) and then let the Design team come up with a new design for the rest of the 4.x branch. I realize that we're hijacking several processes here, but several of the BoD members felt we had to come up with a solution. What's more, I'd like to sincerely thank the Design team, among them Mirek and Stefan for their relentless work and contributions; we hope that you will continue to provide the LibreOffice project with your talent and passion. Best regards, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
[board-discuss] Re: Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
Hi Charles, I am not going to answer to everything here, just on specific point... On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 11:43 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: LibreOffice 4.0 with a slightly modified 3.6.x Splashscreen and StartCenter (the modifications being the inclusion of the number 4 on them) and then let the Design team come up with a new design for the Our current splash does not have a version number on it. (And I believe it should stay this way – if LibreOffice is out of date in an important way, it will alert the user anyway [1], so I see little gain in adding the number.) Astron. [1] On Windows and Mac.
[board-discuss] additional FOSDEM budget
Hello, the board has previously approved [1] 2.000 € for FOSDEM collaterals. Because we would like to opt for higher quality t-shirts, plus produce some stickers in addition, I'd like to ask the board to approve an additional 600 € for collaterals. Although the amount sounds rather high, we try to give away t-shirts at FOSDEM for donations to get some return money, plus t-shirts not sold will be taken to other trade shows. Florian [1] 20130109-01 on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions
Re: [board-discuss] Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
Hello, after having a call with Thorsten, and thinking a second time about it, I must confess that I have indeed changed my mind on this. The board should only veto for a very limited set of topics, mostly legal stuff, and normally should not make use of its power as body. I had, like others, supported a board vote in first place, and based on that support Charles posted this here. Thinking a second time about it makes me feel it was a mistake, and I'm sorry for that. Rather, for the current discussion, let's talk between the marketing team and the design team, at eye-level, and not with the board's authority. Sorry again, Florian
[board-discuss] Re: Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
Hello Stefan, Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 13:34 +0100, Stefan Knorr a écrit : Hi Charles, I am not going to answer to everything here, just on specific point... On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 11:43 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: LibreOffice 4.0 with a slightly modified 3.6.x Splashscreen and StartCenter (the modifications being the inclusion of the number 4 on them) and then let the Design team come up with a new design for the Our current splash does not have a version number on it. (And I believe it should stay this way – if LibreOffice is out of date in an important way, it will alert the user anyway [1], so I see little gain in adding the number.) Well, the number would only be a suggestion as to differentiate between the two splashscreens, but I'm open to suggestions of course. best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Re: [board-discuss] Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
Hello Florian, Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 15:22 +0100, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hello, after having a call with Thorsten, and thinking a second time about it, I must confess that I have indeed changed my mind on this. The board should only veto for a very limited set of topics, mostly legal stuff, and normally should not make use of its power as body. I had, like others, supported a board vote in first place, and based on that support Charles posted this here. Thinking a second time about it makes me feel it was a mistake, and I'm sorry for that. Rather, for the current discussion, let's talk between the marketing team and the design team, at eye-level, and not with the board's authority. I'm against a veto, and I have written it elsewhere. I think it would be a slap in the face of people who obviously don't deserve it. My proposal and call to vote is very different, it is to come up with an actual proposal. If we manage to solve it outside the board level, I'm the first one to be happy (and I didn't like posting the call to vote this morning); however both the timing and the fact that the initial proposal has been merged in the main branch prompted for a Notbremse... Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint
Re: [board-discuss] Splashscreen Startscreen proposals for the 4.0
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: So, votes should happen only on mailing lists. We can decide to get the random opinion of users on Google+, but it should be clear that this is not going to have the same value as the same concept expressed on the mailing lists. If I may suggest: wile I favor 'poll' to get input about what the mebership at large thinks of different proposal... as _one kind_ of input to the decision process. I would rather not such poll to be 'binding' votes Unfortunately 'logo' and other design element are prone to bikesheeding... everybody has an opinion, everybody is an expert... so using 'us' the membership as guinea pig to get some feed-back is one thing.. but delegating that decision to a 'general' vote seems not that great to me. Norbert
Re: [board-discuss] additional FOSDEM budget
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 12:43 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: the board has previously approved [1] 2.000 € for FOSDEM collaterals. Because we would like to opt for higher quality t-shirts, plus produce some stickers in addition, I'd like to ask the board to approve an additional 600 € for collaterals. +1. Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
