Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24
Florian, Lothar: that's encouraging progress - thanks for highlighting 🙂 Sam. On 14 May 2020 16:39:45 CEST, "Lothar K. Becker" wrote: >Thanks Sam, Uwe, Florian, >indeed, as Florian said, this process was bespoken exactly these days, >no need to be ashamed. So we clarified that process, we publicly >discussed it >last Friday, got a few good ideas even from you Uwe (*publishing topics >of private part of board meetings and give a reason for privateness, >both if >possible and if not in the nature of itself). So now, thanks Sam, we as >the board should now pinning some time frames at the steps of this >process, so >that there is an expectation management with it. >Hope, this helps here further and give the impression, that all want to >get better and better. > >Thanks again, Lothar > >Am 14.05.2020 um 16:21 schrieb Florian Effenberger: >> Hi Sam, >> >> Sam Tuke wrote: >>> Board: To phrase Uwe's question differently: can we on this list >expect swifter and more comprehensive minutes in future? Could >inexpensive process >>> changes be made to enable that? >> >> on the topic on when to publish the minutes, we were indeed >discussing how to optimize and speed up the process (cf. see item #3 >from the last board >> call), so I assume publication to happen faster in the future. >> >> Florian >> >-- >Lothar Becker - CoChair of the LibreOffice TDF Certification Committee >email lothar.bec...@libreoffice.org >hangout lothar.bec...@riess-app.de - skype lothar.becker (Karlsruhe)
Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24
Thanks Sam, Uwe, Florian, indeed, as Florian said, this process was bespoken exactly these days, no need to be ashamed. So we clarified that process, we publicly discussed it last Friday, got a few good ideas even from you Uwe (*publishing topics of private part of board meetings and give a reason for privateness, both if possible and if not in the nature of itself). So now, thanks Sam, we as the board should now pinning some time frames at the steps of this process, so that there is an expectation management with it. Hope, this helps here further and give the impression, that all want to get better and better. Thanks again, Lothar Am 14.05.2020 um 16:21 schrieb Florian Effenberger: > Hi Sam, > > Sam Tuke wrote: >> Board: To phrase Uwe's question differently: can we on this list expect >> swifter and more comprehensive minutes in future? Could inexpensive process >> changes be made to enable that? > > on the topic on when to publish the minutes, we were indeed discussing how to > optimize and speed up the process (cf. see item #3 from the last board > call), so I assume publication to happen faster in the future. > > Florian > -- Lothar Becker - CoChair of the LibreOffice TDF Certification Committee email lothar.bec...@libreoffice.org hangout lothar.bec...@riess-app.de - skype lothar.becker (Karlsruhe) 0xAA806FF9C8EAB789.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24
Hi Sam, Sam Tuke wrote: Board: To phrase Uwe's question differently: can we on this list expect swifter and more comprehensive minutes in future? Could inexpensive process changes be made to enable that? on the topic on when to publish the minutes, we were indeed discussing how to optimize and speed up the process (cf. see item #3 from the last board call), so I assume publication to happen faster in the future. Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24
Uwe: it's a shame that your tone is aggressive, and that you assume bad faith, because it undermines the point you're making, which I believe is a good one. Board: To phrase Uwe's question differently: can we on this list expect swifter and more comprehensive minutes in future? Could inexpensive process changes be made to enable that? Thanks, Sam. On 14 May 2020 13:55:11 GMT+02:00, Uwe Altmann wrote: >Hi > >Am 13.05.20 um 11:54 schrieb Stephan Ficht: >> The meeting commences at 13:05 >> ... >> ends 13:09 Berlin time. > >...and the minutes then need two an a half weeks to be published? And at time >there was really nothing worth working on it? Or reporting to the community? > >Ain't you ashamed of this document of obvious idleness? There are open issues >which damage the Foundation and the community as long they are not solved and >you dare to just do nothing? Or at least to tell us nothing about what has >been discussed and/or done? > >Just to remind item 4 of the last TDF board meeting: "4. Discuss: one of the >highest Ranking in budget vote: ...what to do in general...(Lothar, All 5 >minutes, if needed shifted to the private part)" >I' afraid 5 minutes will be not good enough by half. And besides that: A shift >to the private part is not welcome at all. >-- >Mit freundlichen Grüßen >Uwe Altmann > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org >Problems? >https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ >Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >
Re: [board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24
Hi Am 13.05.20 um 11:54 schrieb Stephan Ficht: > The meeting commences at 13:05 > ... > ends 13:09 Berlin time. ...and the minutes then need two an a half weeks to be published? And at time there was really nothing worth working on it? Or reporting to the community? Ain't you ashamed of this document of obvious idleness? There are open issues which damage the Foundation and the community as long they are not solved and you dare to just do nothing? Or at least to tell us nothing about what has been discussed and/or done? Just to remind item 4 of the last TDF board meeting: "4. Discuss: one of the highest Ranking in budget vote: ...what to do in general...(Lothar, All 5 minutes, if needed shifted to the private part)" I' afraid 5 minutes will be not good enough by half. And besides that: A shift to the private part is not welcome at all. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[board-discuss] Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24
The Document Foundation Board of Directors Meeting 2020-04-24 Meeting Minutes Date: 2020-04-24 Location: Jitsi Session chair: Franklin Weng Keeper of the minutes: Michael Meeks In the meeting: Michael, Thorsten, Franklin, Florian (ED), Paolo (Deputy), Nicolas (Deputy), Emiliano, Cor, Daniel Representation: Nicolas for Lothar (See https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/subject "Representation statements") Deputy Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call. The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members are attending the call. The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting. The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4. The meeting commences at 13:05 Berlin time. Agenda: Public Part 1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (All, max. 15 minutes) Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the new board and about TDF. + no-one present to ask questions. 2. Discuss: Process of publishing the Board minutes, additional ways for informing and discussing issues (Lothar, Florian, All 5 minutes) Rationale: Clarifying the process with all/public, collecting new ideas for additional interactions between board and members with Lothar not attending the call skipping Public part ends 13:09 Berlin time. Franklin Weng (Session chair) Michael Meeks (Keeper of the minutes) Stephan -- Stephan Ficht, Administrative Assistant Tel: +49 30 5557992-64 | Mail: stephan.fi...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
