RE: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree
Hi everyone! Penny here, on the Spanish Documentation Team we mostly like the idea of reopening that project, taking into account two things: First, we´d like to maintain the TDF spirit about keeping things public and open. And second, we agree to try it for a trial period and check if this project is really interesting or not for the general public (we can easily verify this two ways, with the amount of programmers who commit to boost the program, and with the response of the general public by using the program). We want to reach as many people as possible and provide them with a free and open source tool, but we are also concious of the amount of work that could imply. So let´s keep updated and see how it works. All the best, Penny [cid:2478206f-988f-4528-9fdd-3f92aa42ab90]
Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree
+1. I also wholeheartedly agree. Thank you. Sincerely yours, Ade -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree
Hi all, Thanks for sharing your opinions, but the statement here is factual incorrect: Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote on 10/07/2022 22:42: We, the undersigned, would like to express our great concern regarding the definitive closure of the repository of what was LibreOffice Online. ... People interested can find lots of discussion in the archives as well as information on what they and others can do to create the software they like, also under TDF. Cheers, Cor -- Cor Nouws, member Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 mobile : +31 (0)6 25 20 7001 skype : cornouws blog: cor4office-nl.blogspot.com jabber : cor4off...@jabber.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree
My ha'penneth below. Surely, the point of TDF is/was to foster community driven contributions by all ? If a languishing codebase was already there, and people are now prepared to update it and have a go at making something of it, shouldn't TDF be seen to be supporting such an initiative ? Reversing the decision to atticize LOOL would not be contrary to that aim, or am I missing something ? Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree
-1 LOOL is just a UI flavor to me. It's nothing without the core and provides just one way to interact with the application (admittedly some special handling which might be important for many). I understand COOL (and any other implementations) as a win-win situation for TDF. If LibreOffice was even more focused on the core application, with for example a generic filter for MS Office and the opportunity to replace it with some always 100%-compatible alternative, the majority of users is still provided with a great office suite and the best document format - free of charge, open source, localized in all tongues... By making an application easy to extend we allow the ecosystem to grow, attract professional developers to work on the application, and (hopefully) make the application more stable (in fact, the expandability comes on some costs first). Collabora offers a free (yet unsupported) version for those who rely on browser interaction. From my experience it requires some expertise to set-up the environment and it is not suited for individuals anyway. Small and mid size companies should afford the IT administration and the subscription which includes support. Keep also in mind that LOOL has not received any major code contribution and is now way behind COOL. PS: I wonder who is addressed by the open letter and the request to vote. Please don't undermine the responsibility of the board. On the other hand, I appreciate to ask the community for opinions and take it as such. On 10.07.22 22:42, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: We, the undersigned, would like to express our great concern regarding the definitive closure of the repository of what was LibreOffice Online. Considering the mission of facilitating access to information and communication technologies as a fundamental and strategic achievement of inclusion and exercise of digital sovereignty. As a foundation committed to eliminating the digital divide in society by giving everyone free access to office productivity tools, the most important thing is to demonstrate that we are committed to offering alternatives to all those individuals and organizations that lack the resources to hire corporate services. We intend with this message, an absolute rethinking of the vote that established the current condition of the repository, which belongs to the community and should welcome improvements from all over the community, as we consider it goes against the objectives outlined by The Document Foundation. To avoid the process of atticization, as the clock is already ticking, and, at the same time, emphasize the global nature of the foundation we urge full consideration of the two proposals that have been made so far. Support Andreas Mantke's effort to revive the LOOL project. Who has already succeeded in upgrading the pre-fork code base to current libraries and dependencies versions. (https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00684.html) Implement the OxOffice On Line Community Version fork that already has several improvements before the LOOL version has been frozen, including those implemented in the commercial versions, and bugs fixed by them as they see fit. (https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00694.html) In any case, since this is a community version TDF must show its commitment to its core values and do everything in their power to grow LOOL community in order to continue development. Sincerely yours, LibreOffice Community Members and Activists around the world. -- Uso LibreOffice, por privacidad, seguridad y control de mis datos. Da un vistazo a la mejor suite de oficina: https://es.libreoffice.org O únete a la Comunidad Hispana: https://matrix.to/#/#hispanos:documentfoundation.org -- Dr. Heiko Tietze, UX-Designer and UX-Mentor Tel: +49 30 5557992-63 | Mail: heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [board-discuss] Open letter for revive LOOL, add your +1 if you agree
On 10.07.2022 15:42, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: We, the undersigned, would like to express our great concern regarding the definitive closure of the repository of what was LibreOffice Online. Considering the mission of facilitating access to information and communication technologies as a fundamental and strategic achievement of inclusion and exercise of digital sovereignty. As a foundation committed to eliminating the digital divide in society by giving everyone free access to office productivity tools, the most important thing is to demonstrate that we are committed to offering alternatives to all those individuals and organizations that lack the resources to hire corporate services. We intend with this message, an absolute rethinking of the vote that established the current condition of the repository, which belongs to the community and should welcome improvements from all over the community, as we consider it goes against the objectives outlined by The Document Foundation. To avoid the process of atticization, as the clock is already ticking, and, at the same time, emphasize the global nature of the foundation we urge full consideration of the two proposals that have been made so far. Support Andreas Mantke's effort to revive the LOOL project. Who has already succeeded in upgrading the pre-fork code base to current libraries and dependencies versions. (https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00684.html) Implement the OxOffice On Line Community Version fork that already has several improvements before the LOOL version has been frozen, including those implemented in the commercial versions, and bugs fixed by them as they see fit. (https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00694.html) In any case, since this is a community version TDF must show its commitment to its core values and do everything in their power to grow LOOL community in order to continue development. Sincerely yours, LibreOffice Community Members and Activists around the world. I totally agree +1 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
