Re: Segways aren't for everyone

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 07:31 PM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mr. Bush gets bucked...
 
 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030612/170/4dnhg.html
 
 
 
 Umm, I thought it was supposed to have a gyroscopic stabilization system so
 
 you couldn't fall off it?

You would have to lean hard forward, then lean back real quick and then again
forward real quick. 

My guess is that GW was doing what any really brave, smart, and curious
person would do, he was looking for the edge conditions first so he would
know how much give he had.

Every time I get a new board I do the same thing pushing it to it's limits,
intentionaly going down, so I will know just how far I can take it before I
go down. That way I am always ready for it, and I know how far I can take it
when things get tight.

It's better to learn it when you are expecting a fall than to learn it when
you are not.

Jan

Going to the doctor tomarow to find out if my leg has healed enought that I
can get back to my boardsports... maru.




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New Kil'n Novel (was: New Brin Novel)

2003-06-19 Thread G. D. Akin

- Original Message - 
From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: Brin: RE: New Brin Novel?


 
 Apparently Kil'n Time will be the sequel to Kiln People.
 
 http://www.sffworld.com/authors/b/brin_david/interviews/2002042.html
 
 Dr. Brin, any word on when it'll be finished or a release date?
 
 **humbly offering my proofreading services**


 Thanks!

 Alas, things are moving VERY slowly hrrrm

 feeling very hoonish

 db

--

This is good news for SF fans.  At least Locus has a UK pub date.  I don't
supposed Locus has any real influence, but we can hope.

We can also hope the US title will be Kiln Time.

Speaking of Kiln books, has anyone voted for the Hugos yet?  I'm waiting
for TORCON's PR 5 that has my code to vote on line.  That class of mail
takes a while to get to Korea, even in the APO system.  If I don't get it by
the first week of July, I'll have to snail-mail it.

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Re: Segways aren't for everyone

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:15 PM 6/18/03 -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:

--- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 07:31 PM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mr. Bush gets bucked...
 
 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030612/170/4dnhg.html



 Umm, I thought it was supposed to have a gyroscopic stabilization system so

 you couldn't fall off it?
You would have to lean hard forward, then lean back real quick and then again
forward real quick.
My guess is that GW was doing what any really brave, smart, and curious
person would do, he was looking for the edge conditions first so he would
know how much give he had.
Every time I get a new board I do the same thing pushing it to it's limits,
intentionaly going down, so I will know just how far I can take it before I
go down. That way I am always ready for it, and I know how far I can take it
when things get tight.


One could point out that that is also what one would do if one were 
auditioning for Jackass . . .



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Land that I love!
Stand beside her, and guide her
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From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam…
God bless America!
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Re: New Kil'n Novel (was: New Br!n Novel)

2003-06-19 Thread Julia Thompson
G. D. Akin wrote:

 Speaking of Kiln books, has anyone voted for the Hugos yet?  I'm waiting
 for TORCON's PR 5 that has my code to vote on line.  That class of mail
 takes a while to get to Korea, even in the APO system.  If I don't get it by
 the first week of July, I'll have to snail-mail it.

Urgh.  What with one thing and another, I think I'm probably not voting
this year  (Maybe I could dig out the nominated short stories I have
on hand, but that would be about it.)

Julia

Up To My Eyeballs Maru
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Re: Segways aren't for everyone

2003-06-19 Thread listmail
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:41:54 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 07:31 PM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. Bush gets bucked...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030612/170/4dnhg.html

Umm, I thought it was supposed to have a gyroscopic stabilization
system so you couldn't fall off it?

I heard it wasn't switched on.

Dean

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Re: New Kil'n Novel (was: New Brin Novel)

2003-06-19 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/19/03 1:39:34 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Dr. Brin, any word on when it'll be finished or a release date?
  
  **humbly offering my proofreading services**
 
 
  Thanks!
 
  Alas, things are moving VERY slowly hrrrm
 
  feeling very hoonish
 
  db
  

Now considering what I've been trying to do, I don't know if this is a good 
thing or a bad thing.  :-)

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Re: Segways aren't for everyone

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Sloan II
Julia Thompson wrote:

 I saw video of it on the news at some point. It was amusing.

 I also saw video of both his *parents* on them, no troubles
 with them at all. How is it that the athletic son can't
 handle what the mother who broke her leg sledding with her
 grandchildren can?  :)
I heard the story on TechTV. He was buying those two Segways
for his parents as a gift, but he had already ridden one
before, so he must have felt comfortable riding one, which
made him overconfident. This time, he jumped on one-handed,
and the machine just couldn't handle it. The senior Bushes
did just fine, because they were being careful.
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RE: Segways aren't for everyone

2003-06-19 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 07:59 AM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Re: Segways aren't for everyone
 
 
 On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:41:54 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 At 07:31 PM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mr. Bush gets bucked...
 
 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/030612/170/4dnhg.html
 
 Umm, I thought it was supposed to have a gyroscopic stabilization 
 system so you couldn't fall off it?
 
 I heard it wasn't switched on.

Its always on.. unless the Segway itself is turned off.  You have the grip it, iirc, 
for the gyros to function when you're mounting it.  

Its freaky, the first time you get on.  You put your weight on it, and it starts to 
stabilize, so your instinct is to shift your weight in the opposite direction to 
compensate, at which point the Segway shifts to adjusts for your movement, which you 
instinctually adjust in the OPPOSITE direction yet again... and so on, until it either 
bucks you off or you get it  After that, its loads of fun;  the learning curve is 
about 45 seconds.

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RE: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?

2003-06-19 Thread Chad Cooper
OK, its a stinker, but here goes...
What is it called when a person commits a violent act against a ditto?

Assault'n Pottery with intent to Kil'n

(Blame my Green!)
Nerd From Hell

 
 Or a group of Terrorists/Anarchists/Deconstructionists who 
 kidnap and ditto
 random people for no apparent reason?
 
 My Life With The Thrill Kil'n Cult
 
 
 xponent
 Kil'n Me, Ce Soir Maru
 rob
 
 
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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Deborah Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, Hoon do not get permanent names until their
 leg fur turns white.
 
 At most, I thought we could have fun with the
lines:
 
 Keep a watch on C'mell. Don't let her become her
 namesake.
 
 ...and give pitty to the readers that don't get it.

Well, I'm going to show my ignorance or my
Swiss-cheese-brain, and request enlightenment, O
Umbling Chimpanzee Fencer...  grin

Pitty Pitty Please? Maru  ;)

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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/19/2003 10:31:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well, I'm going to show my ignorance or my
  Swiss-cheese-brain, and request enlightenment, O
  Umbling Chimpanzee Fencer...  grin
  
  Pitty Pitty Please? Maru  ;)


...Recovering from being a melted pubddle on the floor.

Well, when you put it that way.

The Ballad of Lost C'mell by Cordwainer Smith.

C'mell, being a cat human and a girlie-girl, wasn't supposed to fall in love 
with a human.

A bit hard to find in the used bookstores. Try the Best of, or a collection 
of animorphic SF.

A bit hard for me to understand in today's world.

Totally opposite from today's viewpoint. For Cordwainer Smith, if you looked 
like a human, and thought like a human, but did not have human genes, you 
could not be treated as a human.

If he wrote to be ironic, I think he won.

William Taylor

And don't say you're 
Swiss-cheese until you've
seen the movie Topsy-Turvey.
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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Sloan II
Deborah Harrell wrote:

 Well, I'm going to show my ignorance or my
 Swiss-cheese-brain, and request enlightenment, O
 Umbling Chimpanzee Fencer...  grin
The name came from a Cordwainer Smith story, The Ballad
of Lost C'Mell.
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Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Gautam Mukunda
Hi folks,
A friend of mine (a Green Beret currently serving in
Tashkent, having just left Baghdad) just sent me a
(very funny) letter in MS Word Format talking about
his experiences.  I was hoping to publish it on my
blog (he has approved the idea) and was wondering if
you guys had any ideas about the best way to go about
it.  Unfortunately when you save the letter in a
different format (as a Web Page, for example) it tends
to screw up the formatting.  Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Sloan II
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Ballad of Lost C'mell by Cordwainer Smith.

 C'mell, being a cat human and a girlie-girl, wasn't
 supposed to fall in love with a human.
SNIP

 Totally opposite from today's viewpoint. For Cordwainer
 Smith, if you looked like a human, and thought like a
 human, but did not have human genes, you could not be
 treated as a human.
 If he wrote to be ironic, I think he won.

Even though a (an?) SF writer creates and sets stories in
a fictional society, that doesn't necessarily mean that he
*approves* of everything that society believes.
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RE: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Horn, John
 From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A friend of mine (a Green Beret currently serving in
 Tashkent, having just left Baghdad) just sent me a
 (very funny) letter in MS Word Format talking about
 his experiences.  I was hoping to publish it on my
 blog (he has approved the idea) and was wondering if
 you guys had any ideas about the best way to go about
 it.  Unfortunately when you save the letter in a
 different format (as a Web Page, for example) it tends
 to screw up the formatting.  Thanks for any suggestions.

Perhaps this will work...  Save it as a text file and put PRE /PRE tags
around it.  That's for preformatted text.  Then the browser will just
display it as is and not try to mess with it.  I do that here for some
reports that we want to display in a browser but don't want to take the time
to rewrite into HTML format.

 - jmh
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RE: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Gautam Mukunda
 Perhaps this will work...  Save it as a text file
 and put PRE /PRE tags
 around it.  That's for preformatted text.  Then the
 browser will just
 display it as is and not try to mess with it.  I do
 that here for some
 reports that we want to display in a browser but
 don't want to take the time
 to rewrite into HTML format.
 
  - jmh

Definitely worth a try.  The only other issue is that
it has some great pictures, which I would also like to post.

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RE: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Nick Arnett
Copy and paste it into an HTML editor, such as the one in Mozilla (which is
free, if you don't have it).  That will probably do better, but you still
may have to clean it up a bit.

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 Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:02 AM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Tech-ish help


 Hi folks,
 A friend of mine (a Green Beret currently serving in
 Tashkent, having just left Baghdad) just sent me a
 (very funny) letter in MS Word Format talking about
 his experiences.  I was hoping to publish it on my
 blog (he has approved the idea) and was wondering if
 you guys had any ideas about the best way to go about
 it.  Unfortunately when you save the letter in a
 different format (as a Web Page, for example) it tends
 to screw up the formatting.  Thanks for any suggestions.

 =
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Reggie Bautista
Guatam wrote:
Hi folks,
A friend of mine (a Green Beret currently serving in
Tashkent, having just left Baghdad) just sent me a
(very funny) letter in MS Word Format talking about
his experiences.  I was hoping to publish it on my
blog (he has approved the idea) and was wondering if
you guys had any ideas about the best way to go about
it.  Unfortunately when you save the letter in a
different format (as a Web Page, for example) it tends
to screw up the formatting.  Thanks for any suggestions.
I can't think of any bullet-proof way of doing this.  If you are comfortable 
with any HTML editors, you may just want to copy the text and paste it into 
the HTML editor and readjust the formatting.  Or you could upload the Word 
document to a server somewhere and just link to the document from your blog.

I'm not sure what type of interface your blog has.  If you just type into it 
the way you type into a word processor, you could just copy the text from 
his Word document (just a regular edit--select all) and paste it directly 
into your blog.  That might work well for you.  I'm curious to see what 
other ideas get posted here.

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wierd spam...

2003-06-19 Thread Bryon Daly
I just got this (presumably) spam message today.  I've never seen
anything quite like it:
---

Subject: Dimensional Warp Generator Needed
Greetings,
We need a vendor who can offer immediate supply.
I'm offering $5,000 US dollars just for referring a vender which is
(Actually RELIABLE in providing the below equipment) Contact details
of vendor required, including name and phone #. If they turn out to be
reliable in supplying the below equipment I'll immediately pay you
$5,000. We prefer to work with vendor in the Boston/New York area.
1. The mind warper generation 4 Dimensional Warp Generator # 52 4350a
series wrist watch with z60 or better memory adapter. If in stock the
AMD Dimensional Warp Generator module containing the GRC79 induction
motor, two I80200 warp stabilizers, 256GB of SRAM, and two Analog
Devices isolinear modules, This unit also has a menu driven GUI
accessible on the front panel XID display. All in 1 units would be
great if reliable models are available
2. The special 23200 or Acme 5X24 series time transducing capacitor
with built in temporal displacement. Needed with complete
jumper/auxiliary system
3. A reliable crystal Ionizor with unlimited memory backup.

If your vendor turns out to be reliable, I owe you $5,000.

Email his details to me at: address removed to avoid advertising it

Please do not reply directly back to this email as it will
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random jumble of letters removed

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I'm not sure wht the goal of this spam was.  I can only think it it to get
people to write to the email address provided, but I see little likelihood
people would do so.
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News from the Booby Hatch

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
[The first two articles are spoofs -- I hope! --DBM]

---

From: [deleted per request]
To: 'Declan McCullagh' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: REMOVEEMAIL: Hatch goes even more nuts!! When's he up for
reelection???
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:20:49 -0400
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
X-Priority: 3
Senator wants copyright kill switches in PCs
Thursday, June 19, 2003; 10:12 AM
WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said
Thursday that future personal computers should be required to sport
kill switches that could be remotely activated in cases of
peer-to-peer piracy.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-UT, said he was drafting legislation to require
devices in PCs permitting the destruction of hardware used for
widescale copyright infringement by sending a secret command to the
remote computer. A copyright holder would be required to offer two
warnings before the kill switch was activated and the computer
destroyed or permanently disabled, Hatch said.
That may be the only way you can teach these people about copyright
infringement, Hatch told reporters in the Hart Senate office building
before a meeting of the Judiciary committee. Requiring kill switches
is an extreme step, but if the private sector can't stop piracy on its
own, the government will.
On Tuesday, Hatch came under fire for saying that he favors developing
new technology to remotely destroy the computers of people who
illegally download music from the Internet. Hatch's latest remarks on
go even further, representing the most dramatic escalation to date in
a battle over Internet piracy that has pitted copyright industry
executives against peer-to-peer users and the technology industry.
The kill switch would necessarily include an audit trail and some
sort of way to prevent it from being abused by people other than
legitimate intellectual property holders, Hatch said on Thursday.
While there are no simple solutions, this is a reasonable proposal
that will help preserve the health and vibrancy of one of America's
most important industries.
Hatch said that in addition to technological protections against
misuse of the kill switch, anyone who activated it who was not a
legitimate copyright holder would be subject to prosecution by the
U.S. Department of Justice.
A senior executive at Intel Corporation, who spoke on condition of
anonymity, called Hatch's comments nutty, ludicrous, and beyond the
pale.
Our job is to make the best products for our users, not create
backdoors in microprocessors that will melt them down to a molten heap
of slag because someone on the Internet gets peeved, the executive
said. There's no guarantee that copyright holders won't make a
mistake, and what if a hacker bypasses this supposedly secure
authentication mechanism? Senator Hatch would be responsible for melting
down most of the Internet overnight.
In May, the Recording Industry Association of America acknowledged
that it erroneously sent dozens of copyright infringement notices that
threatened legal action. The trade association blamed its errors on a
temporary employee.
Rep. Rick Boucher, D-VA, who has been active in copyright debates,
said that Hatch should reconsider his proposal for legislation. I can
understand Senator Hatch's frustration, but we have to make sure the
cure is not worse than the disease, Boucher said. Requiring kill
switches is a last resort, not something that should be on the table
yet.
Hatch is an amateur songwriter who has recorded religious songs
including, according to HatchMusic.com, works titled Our Gracious
Lord, Climb Inside His Loving Arms, and How His Glory Shines.
Hatch's proposed legislation represents a kind of melding of two other
proposals from the last session of Congress. In one, Rep. Howard
Berman, D-CA, ignited a firestorm across the Internet over his bill
that would give copyright holders the power to disable, divert or
block computers used on peer-to-peer networks. The second bill, backed
by Sen. Fritz Hollings, D-SC, would require computer and
consumer-electronics companies to build copyright-protection
technology into future products.
One technology lobbyist, who spoke on condition of anonymity, offered
a tongue-in-cheek suggestion. How about if we implant 'kill switches'
in politicians so we can blow them up when they say anything this
stupid?
---

From: Xeni Jardin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Declan McCullagh' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hatch introduces legislation to burn peoples' eyeballs out
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:35:57 -0700
[you've prolly already seen...--XJ]

Journalist Declan McCullough, whose articles helped kill the first
Hatch bill, wrote yesterday that while there is some 

_Some_ Practitioners of Religion Are Evil

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
I know Mafiosi are traditionally Catholic, but I didn't realize that the 
church was taking lessons from them in problem-solving:



From CNN:

An alleged victim of the clergy sexual abuse scandal in the Boston 
archdiocese was in critical condition late Wednesday after being pulled out 
of the Neponset River.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/06/19/mcsorley.hospitalized/index.html



-- Ronn! :)

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To the oceans, white with foam…
God bless America!
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RE: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Tech-ish help
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 11:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Gautam Mukunda
 Perhaps this will work...  Save it as a text file
 and put PRE /PRE tags
 around it.  That's for preformatted text.  Then the
 browser will just
 display it as is and not try to mess with it.  I do
 that here for some
 reports that we want to display in a browser but
 don't want to take the time
 to rewrite into HTML format.

  - jmh
Definitely worth a try.  The only other issue is that
it has some great pictures, which I would also like to post.
=
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freedom is not free
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com
For photos: I don't know how blogspot works, but on LiveJournal you need to 
link to the images in html at an online site, which means you'd have to 
upload them to a photo hosting site at, say, photos.yahoo.com and then link 
to the image. I haven't needed to do this in the three weeks since I've been 
blogging, but I know the basic process.

I have a small list of photo-hosting sites at home and will post them later 
tonight. Some are free, some not, iirc.

Jon

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Scouted: Why Humans Are Hairless

2003-06-19 Thread Deborah Harrell
Another theory on why we're the hairless apes:

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/66/79781.htm?printing=true

Apparently, lack of parasites is an attractive
quality in a mate. A new study suggests that humans
became hairless to reduce the risk of biting flies and
other parasites that live in fur and to enhance their
sexual attractiveness. 

Humans are rare among mammals for their lack of a
dense layer of protective fur or hair. And the new
theory challenges widely accepted theories that humans
became hairless to provide better temperature control
in varied climates. This conventional view argues that
hair was no longer necessary because humans could
regulate their environment with the use of shelter,
fire, and clothing

The researchers admit that the presence of pubic
hair does pose a challenge to their theory of hairless
human evolution. The warm, humid environment provided
by pubic hair provided an ideal breeding ground for
parasites. 

However, researchers say pubic hair also plays an
important role in sexual attraction by enhancing the
exchange of pheromonal signals. Pheromones are
scentless chemicals released by men and women that are
thought to play a role in sexual attraction 
 
And Not Even A Mention Of The Swimming Apes Theory?
Maru  :)

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2 Corinthians 6:14 (Humor)

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
From: Joke A Day (June 19, 2003)


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You see, Vic is a fairly easy going Christian, while his wife is a fairly 
easy going Atheist.

She said she was going to buy a t-shirt from Landover Baptist that says, 
Unsaved.

Vic said, Ok.  I'll get one that says, 'I'm With Stupid --'.



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Re: wierd spam...

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:40 PM 6/19/03 -0400, Bryon Daly wrote:
I just got this (presumably) spam message today.  I've never seen
anything quite like it:
---

Subject: Dimensional Warp Generator Needed
Greetings,
We need a vendor who can offer immediate supply.
I'm offering $5,000 US dollars just for referring a vender which is
(Actually RELIABLE in providing the below equipment) Contact details
of vendor required, including name and phone #. If they turn out to be
reliable in supplying the below equipment I'll immediately pay you
$5,000. We prefer to work with vendor in the Boston/New York area.
1. The mind warper generation 4 Dimensional Warp Generator # 52 4350a
series wrist watch with z60 or better memory adapter. If in stock the
AMD Dimensional Warp Generator module containing the GRC79 induction
motor, two I80200 warp stabilizers, 256GB of SRAM, and two Analog
Devices isolinear modules, This unit also has a menu driven GUI
accessible on the front panel XID display. All in 1 units would be
great if reliable models are available
2. The special 23200 or Acme 5X24 series time transducing capacitor
with built in temporal displacement. Needed with complete
jumper/auxiliary system
3. A reliable crystal Ionizor with unlimited memory backup.

If your vendor turns out to be reliable, I owe you $5,000.

Email his details to me at: address removed to avoid advertising it

Please do not reply directly back to this email as it will
only be bounced back to you.
random jumble of letters removed

---

I'm not sure wht the goal of this spam was.  I can only think it it to get
people to write to the email address provided, but I see little likelihood
people would do so.


I don't know, either.  I'm certainly not selling mine.



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From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam…
God bless America!
My home, sweet home.
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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:29 AM 6/19/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, Hoon do not get permanent names until their
 leg fur turns white.
 
 At most, I thought we could have fun with the
lines:
 
 Keep a watch on C'mell. Don't let her become her
 namesake.
 
 ...and give pitty to the readers that don't get it.
Well, I'm going to show my ignorance or my
Swiss-cheese-brain, and request enlightenment, O
Umbling Chimpanzee Fencer...  grin
Pitty Pitty Please? Maru  ;)


http://www.mac-2001.com/sf/writers/cw-smith.htm



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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:16 AM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 6/18/2003 4:39:58 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 At 01:23 AM 6/18/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If five or six years, then C'mell (tentative name) becomes the second 
born


  What if she gets lost?  Does someone have to write a ballad?


Well, Hoon do not get permanent names until their leg fur turns white.


After that, does she change her name to Melanie?



Whose Leg Fur Color I Do Not Know Maru



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Re: Br?n: Stuff for the Gurps Uplift Site.

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:01 PM 6/19/03 -0500, Steve Sloan II wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Ballad of Lost C'mell by Cordwainer Smith.

 C'mell, being a cat human and a girlie-girl, wasn't
 supposed to fall in love with a human.
SNIP

 Totally opposite from today's viewpoint. For Cordwainer
 Smith, if you looked like a human, and thought like a
 human, but did not have human genes, you could not be
 treated as a human.
 If he wrote to be ironic, I think he won.

Even though a (an?) SF writer creates and sets stories in
a fictional society, that doesn't necessarily mean that he
*approves* of everything that society believes.


http://www.raingod.com/angus/Writing/Essays/Literary/Smith.html



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Scouted: Making Ice Cream with Liquid Nitrogen

2003-06-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
Next, on FoodTV:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/hometech/article/0,12543,458641,00.html

Excerpt:

Behold the smooth, sweet powers of liquid N.
by Theodore Gray
July 2003
...
I first heard about liquid nitrogen ice cream from my friend Tryggvi, an 
Icelandic chemist working in the Midwest (these things happen). He suggested 
we make it for dessert at a dinner party I was planning. Yes, he said, he 
had a recipe, something he'd seen in Chemical and Engineering News.

Now, right off the bat you have to worry about a recipe found in Chemical 
and Engineering News, the principal trade publication for the sort of people 
who build oil refineries, shampoo factories and large-scale plants for the 
fractional distillation of liquefied air (which is where liquid nitrogen 
comes from). But for the party I was planning, it was perfect: The 
well-known author Oliver Sacks was coming to visit with my collection of 
chemical elements; I needed some after-dinner entertainment.

My first concern was whether we would survive the ice cream. That and, if it 
didn't kill the cook, whether it would be any good. I had visions of hard, 
crusty stuff that caused frostbite of the throat. It turned out nothing 
could be further from the truth.

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Re: Scouted: Why Humans Are Hairless

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:02 PM 6/19/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Another theory on why we're the hairless apes:

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/66/79781.htm?printing=true


Their research obviously overlooked the blind date I had last weekend . . .

I Suspect She Was Indeed An Ape Of Some Sort, Particularly After Seeing Her 
Eat Maru

-- Ronn! :)

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Re: Scouted: Why Humans Are Hairless

2003-06-19 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Scouted: Why Humans Are Hairless
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:33:42 -0500
At 01:02 PM 6/19/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
Another theory on why we're the hairless apes:

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/66/79781.htm?printing=true


Their research obviously overlooked the blind date I had last weekend . . .

I Suspect She Was Indeed An Ape Of Some Sort, Particularly After Seeing Her 
Eat Maru
LOL!

*cough* been there *cough*

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Bear Vitals

2003-06-19 Thread Reggie Bautista
Has anyone here read _Vitals_, by Greg Bear?  Any recommendations?

Reggie Bautista

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RE: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?

2003-06-19 Thread Chad Cooper
So one guy says to the other... 
I saw one of your dittos the other day.
Yeah?
Yeah, he had this glazed look on his face!

bumpbump..bump!

and how about this tongue twister.

The Ditto dittoed the ditto's ditto.

RealNerd From Hell


 -Original Message-
 From: Chad Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:23 AM
 To: 'Killer Bs Discussion'
 Subject: RE: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?
 
 
 OK, its a stinker, but here goes...
 What is it called when a person commits a violent act against a ditto?
 
 Assault'n Pottery with intent to Kil'n
 
 (Blame my Green!)
 Nerd From Hell
 
  
  Or a group of Terrorists/Anarchists/Deconstructionists who 
  kidnap and ditto
  random people for no apparent reason?
  
  My Life With The Thrill Kil'n Cult
  
  
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Re: wierd spam...

2003-06-19 Thread listmail
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:40:39 -0400, Bryon Daly wrote:
I just got this (presumably) spam message today.  I've never seen
anything quite like it:

 *snipped*

I'm not sure wht the goal of this spam was.  I can only think it it
to get people to write to the email address provided, but I see
little likelihood people would do so.

Obviously a stranded time traveller trying to get home.

Dean

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Re: Scouted: Making Ice Cream with Liquid Nitrogen

2003-06-19 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Next, on FoodTV:

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/hometech/article/0,12543,458641,00.html

Excerpt:

Behold the smooth, sweet powers of liquid N.
At first, I thought this article was about these:
http://www.dippindots.com/dd_info.asp
I'm not sure if they use liquid nitrogen.  They are quite cold, for sure,
though.  They were almost too cold to get much taste out of them,
the time I tried them.
The microcrystalline ice cream in the PopSci article sounds much more
appetizing; I wonder if it'd be possible to mass-market it?
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Re: News from the Booby Hatch

2003-06-19 Thread Steve Sloan II
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 [The first two articles are spoofs -- I hope! --DBM]

 Senator wants copyright kill switches in PCs
 Thursday, June 19, 2003; 10:12 AM
 WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee
 said Thursday that future personal computers should be
 required to sport kill switches that could be remotely
 activated in cases of peer-to-peer piracy.
 Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-UT, said he was drafting legislation to
 require devices in PCs permitting the destruction of hardware
 used for widescale copyright infringement by sending a secret
 command to the remote computer. A copyright holder would be
 required to offer two warnings before the kill switch was
 activated and the computer destroyed or permanently disabled,
 Hatch said.
They reported it on TechTV yesterday, so unfortunately, he
really did say that stuff. There's also this article:
Senator Endorses Tough Action Against Music Piracy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6559-2003Jun17.html
 Hatch is an amateur songwriter who has recorded religious
 songs including, according to HatchMusic.com, works titled
 Our Gracious Lord, Climb Inside His Loving Arms, and How
 His Glory Shines.
Property destruction? Nice little show of Christian values
there...
 One technology lobbyist, who spoke on condition of
 anonymity, offered a tongue-in-cheek suggestion. How
 about if we implant 'kill switches' in politicians so
 we can blow them up when they say anything this stupid?
Damn straight! Maybe we can also set it to trigger if the
politician kisses too much lobbyist ass at the expense of
his own constituents.
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ADMIN: Bad Server mystery solved

2003-06-19 Thread Nick Arnett
For those who care...  I finally figured out what happened the other day
when the server misbehaved.  I had forgotten that our MTA is chrooted, so it
has its very own copy of resolv.conf, which we failed to update when our ISP
changed.  It was still able to talk to our local caching name server, but
apparently that server either wasn't getting MX records or not
getting/delivering them to the MTA in a usable form.  It's updated now, but
I'm going to continue to relay through our ISP unless that creates a
problem.  And that should also avoid any spurious blocking of our MTA.  We
can only hope that *their* MTA won't be spuriously blocked!

Along the way to improving things, I also added further spam protection.
That won't affect the list directly, except that the server may now perform
a bit better because dictionary attacks will be stopped fairly quickly (the
kind of attack I was griping about a few days ago).  It might eliminate some
work for Julia and me, by reducing the number of bogus messages that leak
through for moderation.

If you don't understand any of that, well... you could learn about
administering open-source MTAs, but why anyone would do so voluntarily is
beyond me.

Nick

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RE: Tech-ish help

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Coffey

Go to file select save as select .html 
I just did it on pre-formated text and pics, worked fine.

--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Copy and paste it into an HTML editor, such as the one in Mozilla (which is
 free, if you don't have it).  That will probably do better, but you still
 may have to clean it up a bit.
 
 --
 Nick Arnett
 Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:02 AM
  To: Killer Bs Discussion
  Subject: Tech-ish help
 
 
  Hi folks,
  A friend of mine (a Green Beret currently serving in
  Tashkent, having just left Baghdad) just sent me a
  (very funny) letter in MS Word Format talking about
  his experiences.  I was hoping to publish it on my
  blog (he has approved the idea) and was wondering if
  you guys had any ideas about the best way to go about
  it.  Unfortunately when you save the letter in a
  different format (as a Web Page, for example) it tends
  to screw up the formatting.  Thanks for any suggestions.
 
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Re: wierd spam...

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just got this (presumably) spam message today.  I've never seen
 anything quite like it:
 
 ---
 
 Subject: Dimensional Warp Generator Needed
 Greetings,
 
 We need a vendor who can offer immediate supply.
 I'm offering $5,000 US dollars just for referring a vender which is
 (Actually RELIABLE in providing the below equipment) Contact details
 of vendor required, including name and phone #. If they turn out to be
 reliable in supplying the below equipment I'll immediately pay you
 $5,000. We prefer to work with vendor in the Boston/New York area.
 
 1. The mind warper generation 4 Dimensional Warp Generator # 52 4350a
 series wrist watch with z60 or better memory adapter. If in stock the
 AMD Dimensional Warp Generator module containing the GRC79 induction
 motor, two I80200 warp stabilizers, 256GB of SRAM, and two Analog
 Devices isolinear modules, This unit also has a menu driven GUI
 accessible on the front panel XID display. All in 1 units would be
 great if reliable models are available
 
 2. The special 23200 or Acme 5X24 series time transducing capacitor
 with built in temporal displacement. Needed with complete
 jumper/auxiliary system
 
 3. A reliable crystal Ionizor with unlimited memory backup.
 
 If your vendor turns out to be reliable, I owe you $5,000.
 
 Email his details to me at: address removed to avoid advertising it
 
 Please do not reply directly back to this email as it will
 only be bounced back to you.
 
 random jumble of letters removed
 
 ---
 
 I'm not sure wht the goal of this spam was.  I can only think it it to get
 people to write to the email address provided, but I see little likelihood
 people would do so.

I herd is was a spam story. People float this around for the fun of it. The
previous two were 1) looking for temporal agents to report a violation. 2)
requests for anyone with a completed time machine so the guy can get back to
his own time. Seems someone has stranded him here and he is tring to return
to his own future time. AFAICT it's just for fun.

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Re: _Some_ Practitioners of Religion Are Evil

2003-06-19 Thread John Garcia
I guess Frank Keating was right.

john

On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 03:32  PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

I know Mafiosi are traditionally Catholic, but I didn't realize that  
the church was taking lessons from them in problem-solving:



From CNN:

An alleged victim of the clergy sexual abuse scandal in the Boston  
archdiocese was in critical condition late Wednesday after being  
pulled out of the Neponset River.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/06/19/mcsorley.hospitalized/ 
index.html



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Stand beside her, and guide her
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RE: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?

2003-06-19 Thread Jan Coffey

I use to date my gilrfriend's dito on the sly, but I had to stop.

She was too needy.

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I keep sending ditos down to the studio to try out for the new reality show.
A curiur keeps bringing me back their frozen heads. Every time it's the same
thing. Right before lights out I see a large feild of blue with white
whisps and then someone yells Pull!

You know you are probably right. I have to go and have a word with them, I
shouldn't stand for being thrown that way.
___

You have to make sure you stay off drugs when you are making ditos, othewsise
they can turn out halph baked.

___

My friend's ditto got high the other day and went running around the street
naked. I got so fed up I forced him to at least put on some stoneware.
___

My chinese wife keeps teling me that I am wasting dittos on all the crazy
sunts I pull. She says you're so clayzee!
___

I like to allways take a few dittos with me when I go site-seeing, that way I
always remember the attraction with a pan-ceramic view.
___

I don't know what they put in the public pools these days, but I was at the Y
and this whole family of ditos jumped in making quite a ruckes. It was a
slurry of activity.

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I'm just Raku-ing them up arn't I?


--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So one guy says to the other... 
 I saw one of your dittos the other day.
 Yeah?
 Yeah, he had this glazed look on his face!
 
 bumpbump..bump!
 
 and how about this tongue twister.
 
 The Ditto dittoed the ditto's ditto.
 
 RealNerd From Hell
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chad Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:23 AM
  To: 'Killer Bs Discussion'
  Subject: RE: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?
  
  
  OK, its a stinker, but here goes...
  What is it called when a person commits a violent act against a ditto?
  
  Assault'n Pottery with intent to Kil'n
  
  (Blame my Green!)
  Nerd From Hell
  
   
   Or a group of Terrorists/Anarchists/Deconstructionists who 
   kidnap and ditto
   random people for no apparent reason?
   
   My Life With The Thrill Kil'n Cult
   
   
   xponent
   Kil'n Me, Ce Soir Maru
   rob
   
   
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They're Only Words!

2003-06-19 Thread Robert Seeberger
The Washington Post's Style Invitational once again asked readers to take
any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing
one letter, and supply a new definition. Here are this year's winners:

1. Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you
 realize it was your money to start with.

 2. Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.

 3. Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright
 ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign
 of breaking down in the near future.

 4. Foreploy: Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of
 getting laid.

 5. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject
 financially impotent for an indefinite period.

 6. Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high.

 7. Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person
 who doesn't get it.

 8. Inoculatte: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

 9. Hipatitis: Terminal coolness.

 10. Osteopornosis: A degenerate disease. (This one got extra edit.)

 11. Karmageddon: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these really
 bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's like, a
 serious bummer.

 12. Decafalon (n.): The grueling event of getting through the day
 consuming only things that are good for you.

 13. Glibido: All talk and no action.

 14. Dopeler effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they
 come at you rapidly.

 15. Arachnoleptic fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you've
 accidentally walked through a spider web.

 16. Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito that gets into your
 bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

 17. Caterpallor (n.): The color you turn after finding half a grub in the
 fruit you're eating.

 And the pick of the literature:

 18. Ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an asshole

xponent
Brin Tin Tin Maru
(a mailing list that has gone to the dogs)
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The letter's up

2003-06-19 Thread Gautam Mukunda
Hi folks,
The letter from the front is up - sans pictures, I'm
afraid - I just don't have time right now to deal with
whatever technical issues are involved.  Still, some
of you might find it interesting.  He really is as
much fun in person as you would guess from the letter itself.

=
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freedom is not free
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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Fire on my mountain

2003-06-19 Thread Medievalbk
Well the 250 acre fire mentioned yesterday took out today 250 of 500 homes on 
the mountain.

Probably made national news.

...but I had a feeling early today that I'd rather go watch Lord of the Rings 
again, than to stay at home and watch the local and national news.

Maybe I'll escape tonight and be able to become a hoon for a while.

Gotta get them on the horses for Debbi.

...maybe I can have the Soro act up enough that I can write in a cavalry 
charge while all carring fencing foils. Herding them back to the Uplift Mound.

William Taylor
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Tucson
Too hazy to see the ski lift--if it's still there.
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Re: Br!n: RE: New Br!n Novel?

2003-06-19 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 6/19/2003 2:57:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The Ditto dittoed the ditto's ditto.

Did he do it diligently or dastardly?

William Taylor
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Or was he just diddling about?
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Re: They're Only Words!

2003-06-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote:

  12. Decafalon (n.): The grueling event of getting through the day
  consuming only things that are good for you.

Yup.

Julia

seriously tempted by the thought of cookies -- and hey, they came from
Whole Foods, so they can't be *all* bad, right?
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Re: Fire on my mountain

2003-06-19 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Well the 250 acre fire mentioned yesterday took out today 250 of 500 homes on
 the mountain.
 
 Probably made national news.
 
 ...but I had a feeling early today that I'd rather go watch Lord of the Rings
 again, than to stay at home and watch the local and national news.

Trading one firey mountain for another, eh?  :)

Julia
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Re: 2 Corinthians 6:14 (Humor)

2003-06-19 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 19 Jun 2003 at 15:09, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 From: Joke A Day (June 19, 2003)
 
 
 Joke A Day
 Making Fun Of Morons Since 1863
 Joke A Day, Inc.   http://www.jokeaday.com
 To join our list:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Brotha Vic dropped me a line to tell me about a conversation he'd had
 with his wife.
 
 You see, Vic is a fairly easy going Christian, while his wife is a
 fairly easy going Atheist.
 
 She said she was going to buy a t-shirt from Landover Baptist that
 says, Unsaved.
 
 Vic said, Ok.  I'll get one that says, 'I'm With Stupid --'.

Best T-shirt I've seen recently was You have the right to remain 
silent. Why don't you try it for a while?

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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Re: Bear Vitals

2003-06-19 Thread Jim Bertrand
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Has anyone here read _Vitals_, by Greg Bear?  Any recommendations?


Yes.  I enjoyed it.  Over all I would put it into the lower middle of the Bear works.  
Not as good as the Darwin books.  

Jim
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Come to Starfleet! ....as promised.

2003-06-19 Thread Medievalbk
Lyrics: IN THE NAVY 

Come to Starfleet

Where can you find pleasure, search all space for treasure,
learn science, technology?
Where can you begin to get a cramp in your hand
when your fingers make a V
Where can you learn to fly, as you go to warp drive,
learn alien biology?
Go back to the big bang,  act like you're in Our Gang
when you take the captain's seat.
  Come to Starfleet, yes, you can solve all problems, see?
  Come to Starfleet, yes, you reverse polarity.
  Come to Starfleet, come on now people, make a stand.
  Come to Starfleet, talk to aliens in the sand.
  Come to Starfleet, come on, protect the neutral zone.
  Come to Starfleet, come on and fly into that cone.
  Come to Starfleet, come on, people who act so bland.
 Come to Starfleet, Come to Starfleet
They want you! They want you! They want you as a new recruit!
If you like adventure don't you wait to enter
the silly hollodeck test.
Don't you hesitate, there is no need to wait;
the Borg have never been at rest.
Maybe you are too young to join up today
but don't you worry--so you'll see.
Just be all obnoxious, you're presence toxious
and claim that your name's Wesley.
 Come to Starfleet.
 They want you! They want you! They want you as a new recruit!
  It won't hurt! It won't hurt! It won't hurt in this new red shirt!

   ..But..but..but I'm a well trained actor!
   ..hey..hey..look, men...
   I can speak Shakespeare in complete sentences!
   They want You! - Oh my goodness!
   They want you! - What am I gonna do in a plot routine?
   They want you! They want you!
Come to Starfleet
  Come to Starfleet.(fade out with beam up sounds.)
  

Now go away and let me be.

William Taylor
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Re: Come to Starfleet! ....as promised.

2003-06-19 Thread Medievalbk
Sorry...I though this was a Ronn reposting.  WellYa got it anyway.

In a message dated 6/19/2003 8:08:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

and the Number 1 Reason Starfleet Is 
   Better Than the US Military...
  
  
   1 No Village People song about Starfleet.
  

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE

---end of shouting.Back later.

William Taylor

..the fire is making the ABC channel
stop the movie for news. Modern tech 
means we miss nothing from the movie.

How thrilling it must be to the average viewer.
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