Tea Party Racism

2010-07-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist?  Or is it just coincidental
that it formed as a black man was taking office?  For years,
Republicans were in office busting the budget and passing bills like
Medicare D which was completely unfunded and will cost us something
like $72 B a year.  Where was the outrage then?

Doug

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Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-25 Thread John Williams
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote:
 Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist?  Or is it just coincidental
 that it formed as a black man was taking office?

I think you will find haters in just about any large group of people.
Groups that have been around a while and have ways of filtering out
the shriller voices (or at least muting them), while newer groups like
the Tea Party seem to lack those filters.

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Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-25 Thread Bruce Bostwick

On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:

Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist?  Or is it just coincidental  
that it formed as a black man was taking office?  For years,  
Republicans were in office busting the budget and passing bills like  
Medicare D which was completely unfunded and will cost us something  
like $72 B a year.  Where was the outrage then?


Doug


I wouldn't say it was fundamentally racist as a matter of actual  
policy, or at least not overtly stated policy.  Most of the time, they  
carefully avoid using racist language or imagery in their public  
statements.  Most of the time.


But the party also seems to leave very carefully parsed loopholes in  
their public statements, in general, that one could figuratively drive  
a Mack truck through, in terms of allowing, and one might say even  
enabling, racist ideology and behavior among their rank and file  
membership, and it's an absolute certainty to me that the party has  
some very racist followers, *and* that the party seems to do little if  
anything to discourage those followers from overtly racist behavior.   
And the thing that makes this a really hard question is that if you  
were to ask any of those hardcore racist folks in the Tea Party  
whether the party stands for what they believe in, the majority would  
probably enthusiastically say yes.  And might even specifically extend  
that to support for their racist beliefs and ideology.


It depends on who you ask, and some of the answers you might get from  
the leadership would be rather interestingly uninformative if past  
behavior is any guide.  The best I'd be able to say overall is that  
they are very good at claiming they aren't what they seem in practice  
to be.  Sort of like the Nigerian scam emails that start off with  
This is not spam ..


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Lions, Colorado-style

2010-07-25 Thread Deborah Harrell
It's taken over 10 years and really was pure luck, but I've finally seen 
cougars in the wild, about 1/4 mile from where I live - whoohoo!  We were 
driving out at dusk, and there they were: a pair (courting?) just ~ 30 ft (10 
meters, A?) off the road.  They looked in good shape, without any big scars, 
moving fluidly, glossy-coated.  I think the big one was a male, as it was a 
little jowly (like a tomcat, not fat!), and the slighter one was both shyer and 
appeared svelte, not 'lollopy' like an adolescent.

It was a good wildlife-sighting week: turkey chicks, a pair of golden eagles (I 
was told they're the local breeding pair at Ken Caryl), a hawk family with an 
eyas (that's the term for a now-flying chick, IIRC) and as the jewels in the 
crown, cougars.

Debbi
Can You Feel The Love Tonight? Maru   :D



  

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RE: Lions, Colorado-style

2010-07-25 Thread Pat Mathews

Oh, wow. Aren't they lovely animals! 

We get them out here in Albuquerque from time to time, and there's TV footage, 
but I've never seen one live except in the Rio Grande Zoo.


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 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:49:07 -0700
 From: harrellmed...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Lions, Colorado-style
 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
 
 It's taken over 10 years and really was pure luck, but I've finally seen 
 cougars in the wild, about 1/4 mile from where I live - whoohoo!  We were 
 driving out at dusk, and there they were: a pair (courting?) just ~ 30 ft (10 
 meters, A?) off the road.  They looked in good shape, without any big scars, 
 moving fluidly, glossy-coated.  I think the big one was a male, as it was a 
 little jowly (like a tomcat, not fat!), and the slighter one was both shyer 
 and appeared svelte, not 'lollopy' like an adolescent.
 
 It was a good wildlife-sighting week: turkey chicks, a pair of golden eagles 
 (I was told they're the local breeding pair at Ken Caryl), a hawk family with 
 an eyas (that's the term for a now-flying chick, IIRC) and as the jewels in 
 the crown, cougars.
 
 Debbi
 Can You Feel The Love Tonight? Maru   :D
 
 
 
   
 
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