Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Euan Ritchie

 They also believe...

...that some cosmic jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you
live forever if you symbolicawy eat his flesh and telepathically tell
him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force
from your soul, that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was
convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

To quote a meme.



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Trolls

2010-09-07 Thread Jon Louis Mann
Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one 
person who has since matured.  Now I am having a similar problem with someone 
on Dr. Brin's FB page.  I sent him the following e-mail and then it occurred to 
me I could just ask the list:

I have a question you may not be able to answer, David, about how to block 
Facebook trolls if I can't access their page to do so.
As I participate more and more on Facebook, I discovered out that it is 
possible to selectively delete, or block, specific persons from reading your 
comments, so you don't know if they are responding to something you posted, and 
making personal attacks. Kind of a coward's way to avoid honest debate.
I realize that sometimes there are excellent reasons for blocking someone, such 
as when it's clear that a dialog is incapable of going anywhere and someone is 
just trying to get your goat.  Blocking them eliminates them from engaging you 
to participate in further futile interaction. 
That's not what this is; it's two people (who are possibly the same person) who 
blocked me after I figured out what they were doing. They can still read and 
respond to my posts, but without me knowing. 
I tried to block them so they can no longer respond to my comments, but since 
already blocked me, I cannot do the  same to them. One of them sent me private 
messages, gloating, and I can't even respond to that.  The other even has a 
profile picture of a troll!~)
I would stop replying, but I thoroughly enjoy participating in the civilized 
discourse with others on your page. It is extremely irritating to see others 
responding to the troll's comments following mine, and not know what was said...
My question is; how can I block them after they have already blocked me from 
finding them on FB?
Thanks,
Jon Mann


  

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Re: Trolls

2010-09-07 Thread John Williams
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jon Louis Mann net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one 
 person who has since matured.  Now I am having a similar problem with someone 
 on Dr. Brin's FB page.

If there is nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with
the universe.
--ST:TNG, Dr. Beverly Crusher

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Re: Trolls

2010-09-07 Thread David Hobby

On 9/7/2010 3:19 PM, John Williams wrote:

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jon Louis Mannnet_democr...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Some time ago I unsubscribed from this list because of the comments of one 
person who has since matured.  Now I am having a similar problem with someone 
on Dr. Brin's FB page.


If there is nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with
the universe.
--ST:TNG, Dr. Beverly Crusher


John--

Well, that was certainly helpful.

---David

I'm no help either, though.

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Re: Trolls

2010-09-07 Thread John Williams
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, David Hobby hob...@newpaltz.edu wrote:

 Well, that was certainly helpful.

                        ---David

 I'm no help either, though.

We both helped increase list traffic, which has been quite low...

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Re: Trolls

2010-09-07 Thread Max Battcher

On 9/7/2010 20:43, John Williams wrote:

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, David Hobbyhob...@newpaltz.edu  wrote:


Well, that was certainly helpful.

---David

I'm no help either, though.


We both helped increase list traffic, which has been quite low...


To be perfectly frank, I don't think anyone can be of much help on this 
matter with regard to Facebook. I think Facebook has made it perfectly 
clear that it is not in the business of enabling discussion. It's in the 
business of selling ads... Unfortunately, trolls use ads too. I suspect 
trolls actually use more ads, thus paying for the right to be jerks, 
but I certainly don't have the ad metrics to data mine in order to test 
that particular hypothesis.


The lesson: more privately hosted mailing lists, less Facebook. Please.

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--Max Battcher--
http://worldmaker.net

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Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Euan Ritchie e...@ritchie.net.nz wrote:

 They also believe...

 ...that some cosmic jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you
 live forever if you symbolicawy eat his flesh and telepathically tell
 him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force
 from your soul, that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was
 convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

 To quote a meme.

Makes the FSM sound downright believable, no?

Doug

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