RE: Facebook is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Wikileaks?]

2010-12-08 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan Minette wrote:
 
 All the billions that g*vernments invest all the
 time to make mothers breastfeed, and those sociopaths
 and perverts create a Social Network that criminalizes
 it. They should be exiled to Antarctica.
 
 Actually, it doesn't, Alberto.  Facebook is free, last time I 
 looked.  I can choose to use it or not use it.  If a network won't 
 let me refer to physics, and takes all examples of QM off it, it's 
 not criminalizing QM.
 
 Perhaps Facebook is making a business decision.  Will disallowing pictures
 of breastfeeding on Facebook gain it more prudish members than 
 allowing it would gain members interested in details of 
 breastfeeding that can best be shown by pictures?

Ok, replace breastfeeding with black men dating white girls.

If a Social Network disallowed pictures of black men
dating white girls it would gain more racist members than
allowing it would gain members interested in details of
interracial relationships that can best be shown by pictures.

 Not allowing women to breastfeed in, say, Mall of the Americas is 
 one thing. That severely curtails breastfeeding mom's ability to go 
 there.  But, there are other ways to communicate such info on the 
 web, so not allowing someone to post it on one's Facebook account 
 can be seen as a purely business decision.

Not allowing black men to date white girls in, say, Mall of the
Americas is one thing. That severely curtails black-white couples
ability to go there. But, there are other ways to communicate such
info on the web, so not allowing someone to post it on one's
Whitepowerbook account can be seen as a purely business decision.

Alberto Monteiro (and I didn't even use the H-word or the I-word!)



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Re: (Ignoring Murphy's Law) kills

2010-12-08 Thread Alberto Monteiro

Jo Anne wrote:
 
 What the heck *is* Vaseline in Brazil?

Vasilina. That was not the problem.

 Here it is a thick ointment also
 known as petroleum jelly.  And what is it used for there?

It's placed on the skin to prevent skin dehidratation.

Alberto Monteiro


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Re: Facebook is evil

2010-12-08 Thread Alberto Monteiro

Jon Louis Mann wrote:

 Only a sociopath and pervert can think that 
 breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful to
 breastfeeding (and to pornography too, but wfc?)
 those sociopaths and perverts create a Social Network
 that criminalizes it.
 
 Alberto, please explain how Facebook is criminalizing 
 breastfeeding and how you know this to be a fact? Did 
 the owners of FB come out and specifically say that?  
 Also, why can only sociopaths and perverts think that? 

Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like
Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be
allowed to censor and criminalize something that is
not criminal. If they want to censor images of people
smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns
(and I bet they don't attack those images with the
fury they attack breastfeeding, but I may be wrong),
then it's ok, but there's no ethical reason to criminalize
breatfeeding.

Alberto Monteiro




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Re: Facebook is evil

2010-12-08 Thread Charlie Bell

On 08/12/2010, at 10:12 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
 
 
 Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like
 Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be
 allowed to censor and criminalize something that is
 not criminal. If they want to censor images of people
 smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns
 (and I bet they don't attack those images with the
 fury they attack breastfeeding, but I may be wrong),
 then it's ok, but there's no ethical reason to criminalize
 breatfeeding.

Alberto, I get your point, but I think it would be better if you substituted 
the word stigmatise for criminalise. That's what they're doing. They're 
stigmatising legal and natural behaviour. They're not criminalising it, but 
they are discriminating against it in a way that might well spread that 
discrimination.

Charlie.
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Facebook

2010-12-08 Thread Jon Louis Mann
  Alberto, please explain how Facebook is criminalizing 
  breastfeeding and how you know this to be a fact? Did
  the owners of FB come out and specifically say that?  
  Also, why can only sociopaths and perverts think that?

 Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like
 Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be
 allowed to censor and criminalize something that is
 not criminal. If they want to censor images of people
 smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns
 (and I bet they don't attack those images with the
 fury they attack breastfeeding, but I may be wrong),
 then it's ok, but there's no ethical reason to 
 criminalize breastfeeding. 
 Alberto Monteiro

 Alberto, I get your point, but I think it would be better
 if you substituted the word stigmatise for criminalise.
 That's what they're doing. They're stigmatising legal and
 natural behaviour. They're not criminalising it, but they
 are discriminating against it in a way that might well
 spread that discrimination.
 Charlie.

Alberto, I'm curious why you feel so strongly about
breastfeeding pictures being forbidden on Facebook.  
Until now I was not even aware nor cared.  To ban 
breastfeeding in public places is more controversial. 
Were you a bottle baby and that explains your obsession, 
or are you just objecting to censorship?~)  Really, this 
is a tempest in a teapot, and there are many far more 
legitimate reasons to hate Facebook.  It is a threat to 
privacy, as is any electronic network receiving revenue 
from it's data banks on users.  People so concerned about
personal privacy should never use banks, credit cards, etc. 
They shouldn't register for social security, get a driver's
license, or go online.  (including this list!~)


  

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Re: Facebook

2010-12-08 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
 
  Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like
  Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be
  allowed to censor and criminalize something that is
  not criminal. If they want to censor images of people
  smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns
  (and I bet they don't attack those images with the
  fury they attack breastfeeding, but I may be wrong),
  then it's ok, but there's no ethical reason to 
  criminalize breastfeeding. 
 
 Alberto, I'm curious why you feel so strongly about
 breastfeeding pictures being forbidden on Facebook.  
 Until now I was not even aware nor cared.  To ban 
 breastfeeding in public places is more controversial. 
 Were you a bottle baby and that explains your obsession, 
 or are you just objecting to censorship?~)

Yes, I am a hater of censorship. But it's not fun
to get _here_ and distill hate against Iran's or China's
censorship.

Alberto Monteiro


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Re: Facebook is evil

2010-12-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote:

 Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like
 Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be
 allowed to censor and criminalize something that is
 not criminal. If they want to censor images of people
 smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns
 (and I bet they don't attack those images with the
 fury they attack breastfeeding, but I may be wrong),
 then it's ok, but there's no ethical reason to criminalize
 breatfeeding.

How is different than, say, guidelines that discourage obscenities on
a mailing list?

Doug

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