RE: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The only rule we got at school was 'after c', and then one just learned all the exceptions. Everyone has a few words they can't spell I think. One of mine is 'resteraunt'. Oops! Restaurant. Mine are: vacuum, caffeine, torture and a few others. Fortunately, torture doesn't come up too much outside of RPG situations... Hey! I got them all right on the first, ok, second try! - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
--- Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: William T Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The only rule we got at school was 'after c', and then one just learned all the exceptions. Everyone has a few words they can't spell I think. One of mine is 'resteraunt'. Oops! Restaurant. Mine are: vacuum, caffeine, torture and a few others. Why is people spelled that way? Everyone sais pee-pole not pee-op-le. hu, hu huhu hu, He said _pee_ _pole_, hu huh huhu = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
Han Tacoma wrote: Debbi explains the origins of fish on (Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT)) [..gone snip crazy...] I don't remember all the words it comes from, but IIRC ghoti is an alternative spelling for the sound fish [enou_gh_, ??, pa_ti_ence]... ;) ?? would be as in the plural of woman = w_o_men English is such a fun language! ...and there's more exceptions than there are rules :-) Well, if every rule has 2 exceptions, then of *course* that's the case. :) The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Julia who will give the whole *rule* if someone asks for it ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Han Tacoma wrote: Debbi explains the origins of fish on (Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT)) [..gone snip crazy...] I don't remember all the words it comes from, but IIRC ghoti is an alternative spelling for the sound fish [enou_gh_, ??, pa_ti_ence]... ;) ?? would be as in the plural of woman = w_o_men English is such a fun language! ...and there's more exceptions than there are rules :-) Well, if every rule has 2 exceptions, then of *course* that's the case. :) The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Stein = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
In a message dated 6/7/2003 12:39:18 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Stein There are many steins in Leipzig, ja? William Taylor - After going through at $4 a book ...and again at $3 a book ...and then $10 a bag ...and then a second $10 bag, I found a copy of Anathema! Medieval Book Curses. Worth at least $100 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
Julia (Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:05:02 -0500) writes: Han Tacoma wrote: Debbi explains the origins of fish on (Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT)) [..gone snip crazy...] I don't remember all the words it comes from, but IIRC ghoti is an alternative spelling for the sound fish [enou_gh_, ??, pa_ti_ence]... ;) ?? would be as in the plural of woman = w_o_men English is such a fun language! ...and there's more exceptions than there are rules :-) Well, if every rule has 2 exceptions, then of *course* that's the case. :) The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? ...and that would be in USA English, as opposed to Canadjian English, as opposed to Aussie English, as opposed to Blymie English, as opposed to [...oooh what the heck, I'm getting tired of typing -- one of these days when I make some extra money I'll buy Dragon-dictate or a simile] WORTHIBUTTER Szawry doctor! 'ees off 'iz bleumin' chump ee is! Gar well blymie ga yve me a bleedin... by John Mucci Qui debeat melius sapere Maru Cheers! -- Han Tacoma ~ Artificial Intelligence is better than none! ~ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
Amendment at the end. - Original Message - From: Han Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people Julia (Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:05:02 -0500) writes: Han Tacoma wrote: Debbi explains the origins of fish on (Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT)) [..gone snip crazy...] I don't remember all the words it comes from, but IIRC ghoti is an alternative spelling for the sound fish [enou_gh_, ??, pa_ti_ence]... ;) ?? would be as in the plural of woman = w_o_men English is such a fun language! ...and there's more exceptions than there are rules :-) Well, if every rule has 2 exceptions, then of *course* that's the case. :) The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? ...and that would be in USA English, as opposed to Canadjian English, as opposed to Aussie English, as opposed to Blymie English, as opposed to [...oooh what the heck, I'm getting tired of typing -- one of these days when I make some extra money I'll buy Dragon-dictate or a simile] WORTHIBUTTER Szawry doctor! 'ees off 'iz bleumin' chump ee is! Gar well blymie ga yve me a bleedin... by John Mucci Qui debeat melius sapere Maru DRACULA (Undressed) a modern amorality play in Two Acts http://www.jmucci.com/plays/drac1.htm Cheers! -- Han Tacoma ~ Artificial Intelligence is better than none! ~ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:05:02 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Their? Dean ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:05:02 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Their? That falls under the main rule: I before E except after c, or when combined they make the sound of long a. (There's a nice little ditty for that last bit which I don't remember.) Neighbor fits the general rule. Their does, as well, as does weigh. Conceive fits the part about after 'c'. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
At 02:05 PM 6/7/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Han Tacoma wrote: Debbi explains the origins of fish on (Fri, 6 Jun 2003 01:22:12 -0700 (PDT)) [..gone snip crazy...] I don't remember all the words it comes from, but IIRC ghoti is an alternative spelling for the sound fish [enou_gh_, ??, pa_ti_ence]... ;) ?? would be as in the plural of woman = w_o_men English is such a fun language! ...and there's more exceptions than there are rules :-) Well, if every rule has 2 exceptions, then of *course* that's the case. :) The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Searching for *ei* in the New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary yields 1687 matching entries. (Maybe it isn't surprising that you couldn't remember that Alzheimer's is one of them . . . ) -- Ronn! :) God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foamÂ… God bless America! My home, sweet home. -- Irving Berlin (1888-1989) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 16:31:00 -0500 Julia told Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:05:02 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Their? That falls under the main rule: I before E except after c, or when combined they make the sound of long a. (There's a nice little ditty for that last bit which I don't remember.) Neighbor fits the general rule. Their does, as well, as does weigh. Conceive fits the part about after 'c'. ...uuuf!, and those rules are simple. Whan that Aprille, with hise shoures soote, The droghte of March hath perced to the roote -Canterbury Tales, Prologue, 1-2. Geoffrey Chaucer (1342 - 1400) When in April the sweet showers fall That pierce March's drought to the root and all ...and to think that the former could have been spoken if Gutemberg hadn't circa 1450 come up with the printing press. Cheers! -- Han Tacoma ~ Artificial Intelligence is better than none! ~ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: English rules exceptions Re: China RFID tracking people
On Saturday, June 7, 2003, at 10:31 pm, Julia Thompson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 14:05:02 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: The ie/ei rule is complicated, and has 8 exceptions that have been brought to my attention, but I can never remember more than 7 of them: either foreign forfeit leisure neither seize weird There's at least 1 more. Anyone? Their? That falls under the main rule: I before E except after c, or when combined they make the sound of long a. (There's a nice little ditty for that last bit which I don't remember.) Neighbor fits the general rule. Their does, as well, as does weigh. Conceive fits the part about after 'c'. Theism Atheism Leitmotif Heist Heifer. Time to stop now :) The only rule we got at school was 'after c', and then one just learned all the exceptions. Everyone has a few words they can't spell I think. One of mine is 'resteraunt'. Oops! Restaurant. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds language. Then they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because I no verbs. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Han Tacoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and to think that the former could have been spoken if Gutemberg hadn't circa 1450 come up with the printing press. Hay now, Getemberg may have stole that idea from the chinese, but that's no reason to blame him for modern spelling standardization. = _ Jan William Coffey _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l