Re: The evils of eating vegetables (was Re: L3: Worldcancerdeathrates have increased...)

[Andrew Crystall]

On 6 Jun 2003 at 22:58, Julia Thompson wrote:

 Michael Harney wrote:
 
  Did I say meat eaters are inferior?  No.  In fact, I never even said
  that people shouldn't eat meat in the cancer posts.  If anything, my
  posts on the cancer topic only suggest that one should reduce meat
  consumption if they are concerned about cancer, and even that would
  be distorting what I said (all I really said even remotely along
  those lines is that there is vegetarians are less likely to develop
  cancer than meat eaters... ask your family doctor if you don't
  believe me... the doctor will probably agree and caution that
  vegetarians, unless they are careful about their diet and take the
  right suppliments, they are more likely to develop anemia, B-12
  defficiency, and other conditions.  I won't argue with that, it's
  just a fact).  I never stated in those posts that people should stop
  eating meat.
 
 I've known various people who either became vegetarian for awhile, or
 just cut down on their meat consumption, and have felt better as a
 result.  My sister will eat fish  seafood at any time, but she
 reserves the eating of land vertebrates to once a month -- and as a

I'm Jewish, amd I take the dietry laws pretty seriously. And given 
the fact that Kosher meat is pretty expensive (50% more so is a rough 
guide), and the fact that I won't eat anything with meat in when I'm 
out, I end up not eating much meat.

I can't say that I've felt better when I haven't been eating meat. On 
the other hand, I know when I stop eating fish I tend to bet a bit 
down. Not sure exactly what does that in dietry terms, but I try to 
eat fresh fish twice a week.

I end up eating some pretty nasty vegitarian stuff sometimes. It's 
not worth even bothering on most European airlines, frex.  (flying El-
Al, naturally, is wonderful :P)

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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Re: The evils of eating vegetables (was Re: L3: Worldcancerdeathrates have increased...)

[Julia Thompson]

Michael Harney wrote:
 
 Did I say meat eaters are inferior?  No.  In fact, I never even said that
 people shouldn't eat meat in the cancer posts.  If anything, my posts on the
 cancer topic only suggest that one should reduce meat consumption if they
 are concerned about cancer, and even that would be distorting what I said
 (all I really said even remotely along those lines is that there is
 vegetarians are less likely to develop cancer than meat eaters... ask your
 family doctor if you don't believe me... the doctor will probably agree and
 caution that vegetarians, unless they are careful about their diet and take
 the right suppliments, they are more likely to develop anemia, B-12
 defficiency, and other conditions.  I won't argue with that, it's just a
 fact).  I never stated in those posts that people should stop eating meat.

I've known various people who either became vegetarian for awhile, or
just cut down on their meat consumption, and have felt better as a
result.  My sister will eat fish  seafood at any time, but she reserves
the eating of land vertebrates to once a month -- and as a result, she's
very particular as to just what she eats, and under what circumstances,
and derives a lot more pleasure per meat meal than most omnivores. 
After she cut down on her meat consumption, she started feeling better
in general, so having seen that, my mother cut down on hers, and has
felt some better, as well.

Heck, I was a vegetarian for a few years.  There were 2 factors involved
in my decision to stop eating meat:  1)  Peer pressure -- the other
weirdest girl in my class was one; 2)  sick of the meats I was most
often served.  I got tired of pretty much everything my mother did with
beef, so I stopped eating beef, and then after a few weeks of that, I
got tired of her chicken, as well.  Then I got tested for allergies, and
it turned out that I was allergic to enough things that if I were to
avoid all my food allergies, it was going to be *very* difficult to
maintain a vegetarian diet, especially eating at the college cafeteria. 
(Mostly I avoid the nastier ones these days; I eat some of the things I
tested positive for on a regular basis, and as long as I don't overdo
it, and eat more-processed forms of the ones I *do* eat, I'm OK.)  And
now I eat barbecue on a regular basis, mostly brisket.  Mm

Julia

who's mostly been wanting chicken, steak and cheese lately, as far as
non-plant foods go
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