Re: Unsolvable and beyond compromise.
Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is also a no-no. Basically, health care reform runs afoul deeply held contradictory cultural values. It is not a problem for which there is a satisfactory political compromise.) and so they may be… all that… suicidal and idiots to play ball at all. The purpose of American political machinery should be clear to the cultural no-no in America by now. It has always served those who formed it. The move from the slave economy where social medicine went with the territory of slavery and platform for the slave economy was never questioned but the first order of business for the US Congress after the 13th 14th and 15th An amendment was the 16th amendment. These all redirected the American labor economy and brought us the Federal Income Tax system. This new order of business broadened the labor pool from the slave economy to the wage-slave economy where the tax on income brought a larger pool slaves into the American work force. This new philosophy led to a broader need for social constrictions on the capital pools which was enlarged due to the industrial revolution and the monster railroads influence upon the mobility of that pool of American laborers. The ideas of social control of these pools of labor naturally required regulation of the controlling capital functions...i.e. the need for wage and hour laws and also social security and social medicine was born. Taft no less a scholar than Mr. Obama saw the need to restrict the excesses long before Mr. Roosevelt social formulas became the widely accepted model and the ideas that any one party solution will rule the day is truly not the issue. The real issue is related to the place for American labor and its competition in global markets which are exploited for the cheapest labor to continue products and the ideas of built in obsolescence which rule the day. The lost of the American financial market due to misplaced understanding about how it work in a world financial situation where the micro-parity is not equal to the macro-parity bring us to the numbers of questions addressed daily on this blog...that is the one on social medicine and the other on a die-off both of which were addressed by the economist N. Kondriedoff. The key to understanding the present American twist if the American attempt to maintain global control of capital while giving up predominance in the production sector and ruling over a financial market without any control over world productions or demand for that production. What has this to do with health care? Even during slavery a high standard for the labor force was paramount…any other belief run afoul for the facts…but you might sell your good sense for a bowl of beans read: Ghettonomics—Man and Myth Morris Peavey --- On Mon, 2/22/10, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote: From: Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com Subject: Re: Unsolvable and beyond compromise. To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Date: Monday, February 22, 2010, 9:10 PM Trent wrote: Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is also a no-no. Basically, health care reform runs afoul deeply held contradictory cultural values. It is not a problem for which there is a satisfactory political compromise.) Hopefully their intransigence will backfire. Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Unsolvable and beyond compromise.
http://alturl.com/s5id Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is also a no-no. Basically, health care reform runs afoul deeply held contradictory cultural values. It is not a problem for which there is a satisfactory political compromise.) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Unsolvable and beyond compromise.
Trent wrote: Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is also a no-no. Basically, health care reform runs afoul deeply held contradictory cultural values. It is not a problem for which there is a satisfactory political compromise.) Hopefully their intransigence will backfire. Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Unsolvable and beyond compromise.
On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: http://alturl.com/s5id Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America. (Leaving people uninsured is also a no-no. Basically, health care reform runs afoul deeply held contradictory cultural values. It is not a problem for which there is a satisfactory political compromise.) Until the cultural values change. Which I believe is happening. The people who are against federal government interference in the health care market are *not* the people who are against leaving people uninsured and at the mercy of profit-based health care systems. The former are a dwindling, if increasingly vocal and still somewhat better connected, minority, and the latter are a disorganized but increasingly savvy majority, and sooner or later that balance will tip one way or the other .. and I see it ultimately tipping in favor of strengthening the safety net for people that a purely profit-driven health care system tends to let fall through the cracks. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but that's how I see it. This conflict has many other aspects, though, and runs far deeper than just the health care debate .. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
