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2010-12-16 Thread Chad Witko
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

2010-12-16 Thread Dave Nutter
Andrew, Crows are very social animals. They live in family groups during the breeding season, with a multi-year learning period, and young birds raised the previous year often help their parents to raise their younger siblings. In the non-breeding season crows gather into massive roosting congregations in the late afternoon. In recent years these roosts have been much more conspicuous to people as the birds have chosen urban areas with large trees. In the morning they commute to farm fields to search for waste corn or to dumps (or the Cornell food services composting facility) for waste food. Toward March and the onset of breeding season the roost breaks up and the birds return to their family territories. I think some local birds here retain residency in their territories during winter as well. Those winter roosts are amazing, just to consider all the biomass, and the area over which they must be feeding. Their socializing is noisy and active before and after their actual sleeping time and includes areas outside the actual roost. They are harmless, of course, but people whose knowledge of biology extends only to Alfred Hitchcock movies may be unnerved. And people whose possessions are underneath roost trees with hundreds of birds will be understandably unhappy with the birds' defecation. I like to watch the flocks' swirling flight.Kevin McGowan has been studying crows in this area for years, and I hope he will expand upon (and if necessary correct) this post. His project is responsible for the crows with various colored wing tags, each color representing a different year. Most crows are tagged in the nest before they are old enough to leave. Each bird's tags has a 2-digit code, and if you tell Kevin which bird you have seen when and where, he may return the favor with a brief life history of that individual. --Dave NutterOn Dec 15, 2010, at 07:05 PM, Andrew Roe andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:This is only my secondwinter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.


Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birdspassing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in the works?

Thanks,

Andrew


RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

2010-12-16 Thread Marie P Read
I happened to be driving to Rochester through Geneva a week ago at dusk, and 
there was a huge roost (or pre-roost staging area) of crows gathering in the 
park at the north end of Seneca Lake too. Thousands of crows silhouetted in the 
trees at sunset. Very cool to watch.

Marie


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On Dec 15, 2010, at 07:05 PM, Andrew Roe andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:

This is only my second winter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the 
southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an 
ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, 
covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.

Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birds 
passing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in 
the works?

Thanks,

Andrew

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

2010-12-16 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
I have little to add and nothing to correct in Dave' nice summary.  Crows in 
and around Ithaca usually choose among several modest roosts (500-5,000 crows). 
 Some years the main Ithaca roost is hardly noticeable, and in others it's in 
your face.  The crows typically stage on the Cornell and Ithaca Country Club 
golf courses before heading to the main roost.  Exactly where the final roost 
is changes between and within seasons.  I have not been downtown in the 
evening, and I do not know where the final roost is at this time.

Kevin J. McGowan, Ph.D.
Instructor
Home Study Course in Bird Biology
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu
607-254-2452

From: bounce-7531176-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-7531176-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Nutter
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:27 AM
To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

Andrew,
Crows are very social animals.  They live in family groups during the breeding 
season,
with a multi-year learning period, and young birds raised the previous year 
often help
their parents to raise their younger siblings.  In the non-breeding season 
crows gather into
massive roosting congregations in the late afternoon.  In recent years these 
roosts have
been much more conspicuous to people as the birds have chosen urban areas with 
large
trees.  In the morning they commute to farm fields to search for waste corn or 
to dumps
(or the Cornell food services composting facility) for waste food.  Toward 
March and the
onset of breeding season the roost breaks up and the birds return to their 
family territories.
I think some local birds here retain residency in their territories during 
winter as well.  Those
winter roosts are amazing, just to consider all the biomass, and the area over 
which they
must be feeding.  Their socializing is noisy and active before and after their 
actual sleeping
time and includes areas outside the actual roost.  They are harmless, of 
course, but people
whose knowledge of biology extends only to Alfred Hitchcock movies may be 
unnerved.
And people whose possessions are underneath roost trees with hundreds of birds 
will be
understandably unhappy with the birds' defecation.  I like to watch the flocks' 
swirling flight.
Kevin McGowan has been studying crows in this area for years, and I hope he 
will expand
upon (and if necessary correct) this post.  His project is responsible for the 
crows with
various colored wing tags, each color representing a different year.  Most 
crows are tagged
in the nest before they are old enough to leave.  Each bird's tags has a 
2-digit code, and
if you tell Kevin which bird you have seen when and where, he may return the 
favor with
a brief life history of that individual.
--Dave Nutter



On Dec 15, 2010, at 07:05 PM, Andrew Roe andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:
This is only my second winter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the 
southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an 
ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, 
covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.

Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birds 
passing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in 
the works?

Thanks,

Andrew

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

2010-12-16 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
I have an explanation of roosts at 
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/crowfaq.htm#roost

Kevin J. McGowan, Ph.D.
Instructor
Home Study Course in Bird Biology
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu
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From: bounce-7531499-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-7531499-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin J. McGowan
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:19 AM
To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

I have little to add and nothing to correct in Dave' nice summary.  Crows in 
and around Ithaca usually choose among several modest roosts (500-5,000 crows). 
 Some years the main Ithaca roost is hardly noticeable, and in others it's in 
your face.  The crows typically stage on the Cornell and Ithaca Country Club 
golf courses before heading to the main roost.  Exactly where the final roost 
is changes between and within seasons.  I have not been downtown in the 
evening, and I do not know where the final roost is at this time.

Kevin J. McGowan, Ph.D.
Instructor
Home Study Course in Bird Biology
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu
607-254-2452

From: bounce-7531176-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-7531176-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Nutter
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:27 AM
To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

Andrew,
Crows are very social animals.  They live in family groups during the breeding 
season,
with a multi-year learning period, and young birds raised the previous year 
often help
their parents to raise their younger siblings.  In the non-breeding season 
crows gather into
massive roosting congregations in the late afternoon.  In recent years these 
roosts have
been much more conspicuous to people as the birds have chosen urban areas with 
large
trees.  In the morning they commute to farm fields to search for waste corn or 
to dumps
(or the Cornell food services composting facility) for waste food.  Toward 
March and the
onset of breeding season the roost breaks up and the birds return to their 
family territories.
I think some local birds here retain residency in their territories during 
winter as well.  Those
winter roosts are amazing, just to consider all the biomass, and the area over 
which they
must be feeding.  Their socializing is noisy and active before and after their 
actual sleeping
time and includes areas outside the actual roost.  They are harmless, of 
course, but people
whose knowledge of biology extends only to Alfred Hitchcock movies may be 
unnerved.
And people whose possessions are underneath roost trees with hundreds of birds 
will be
understandably unhappy with the birds' defecation.  I like to watch the flocks' 
swirling flight.
Kevin McGowan has been studying crows in this area for years, and I hope he 
will expand
upon (and if necessary correct) this post.  His project is responsible for the 
crows with
various colored wing tags, each color representing a different year.  Most 
crows are tagged
in the nest before they are old enough to leave.  Each bird's tags has a 
2-digit code, and
if you tell Kevin which bird you have seen when and where, he may return the 
favor with
a brief life history of that individual.
--Dave Nutter



On Dec 15, 2010, at 07:05 PM, Andrew Roe andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:
This is only my second winter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the 
southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an 
ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, 
covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.

Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birds 
passing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in 
the works?

Thanks,

Andrew

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[cayugabirds-l] KING EIDER east side red

2010-12-16 Thread 6072292158
 KING EIDER east side red lighthouse breakwater best view Treman Marine Pk 
1025am 16 Dec
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[cayugabirds-l] Summerhill-Evening Grosbeaks/Cortland CBC

2010-12-16 Thread grosb...@clarityconnect.com
Hello all,

A flock of 12 EVENING GROSBEAKS (2 males) on Iowa Rd Bear Swamp and a flock
of ~15 EVENING 
GROSBEAKS on Eaton Rd Summerhill (5-6 male; these are in the basin). Eaton
Rd is just down hill from the 
Hovel Chalet on Fillmore Rd. In fact, about 10 minutes later after seeing
them on Eaton Rd, presumably the 
same flock flew in to feed at the feeders next to the road at the Hovel. I
also had a few PINE SISKINS on 
Lake Como Rd.

As a reminder to those participating, this Saturday Dec 18 is the Cortland
CBC. If anyone wants to help, I 
could still probably use more group. Please contact me if you want to help.

cheers,
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[cayugabirds-l] King Eider

2010-12-16 Thread bluewing
The King Eider was seen off Stewart Park in Ithaca this morning around 9:00 AM. 
 It was in front of, and on top, of the jetty wall between the white and red 
light houses.

Three Turkey Vultures were seen near Mount Pleasant Road latter in the morning.

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Binghamton, New York
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Auburn and crow hunting

2010-12-16 Thread Dave Nutter
The crow hunting season is a New York State DEC policy. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't think people eat them. There are other DEC policies about killing animals that are damaging farm crops outside of hunting seasons, I believe. I think the policies of Auburn were to try to deter the birds, not outright kill them. However there were a few guys with guns who set up just outside Auburn itself to try to shoot crows. Again, it doesn't make sense to me unless they were trying to feed their families, which I doubt And again, corrections welcome. --Dave NutterOn Dec 16, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Michele Emerick Brown m...@cornelledu wrote:Sadly—(and I hope to be corrected)—but I think Auburn’s solution was to institute a crow hunting season.http://www.tonews.com/post/3339713/clari/web/local/newyork/misc/ny_crow_hunt_expected_to_draw_crowd.htmlFrom: bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Asher HockettSent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:36 PMTo: Andrew RoeCc: Cayugabirds-L@cornell.eduSubject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?Large roosts of crows are famous. A few years ago, Auburn, NY, near the upper reaches of Cayuga Lake, had to resort to drastic (but non-violent) measures to rid the city of tens of thousands of them. Maybe Ithaca has a reputation for being more crow friendly. Here we have our own "reverse pied piper" in crow expert Kevin McGowan, who will likely add his educated perspective to my unscientific babblingThey are using the slopes of south hill which lead down into 6 Mile Creek and the neighborhoods bordering the creek area for the roost these days (or nights, actually).On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Roe andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:This is only my secondwinter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birdspassing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in the works?Thanks,Andrew-- asher-Never play it the same way once.

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

2010-12-16 Thread Linda Post Van Buskirk
To clarify:  Auburn is at the head of Owasco Lake, the small Finger Lake that 
lies between Cayuga Lake and Skaneateles Lake.

Linda P. Van Buskirk, Ph.D.
Sr. Lecturer in Communication
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York
607-255-2161; fax 607-254-1322

From: bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Asher Hockett
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:36 PM
To: Andrew Roe
Cc: Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

Large roosts of crows are famous. A few years ago, Auburn, NY, near the upper 
reaches of Cayuga Lake, had to resort to drastic (but non-violent) measures to 
rid the city of tens of thousands of them. Maybe Ithaca has a reputation for 
being more crow friendly. Here we have our own reverse pied piper in crow 
expert Kevin McGowan, who will likely add his educated perspective to my 
unscientific babbling.

They are using the slopes of south hill which lead down into 6 Mile Creek and 
the neighborhoods bordering the creek area for the roost these days (or nights, 
actually).
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Roe 
andrew.walker@gmail.commailto:andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:
This is only my second winter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the 
southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an 
ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, 
covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.

Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birds 
passing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in 
the works?

Thanks,

Andrew



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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Auburn and crow hunting

2010-12-16 Thread Michele Emerick Brown
I've seen photos of them showing off their kills-it's not to feed their 
families. I knew I misspoke when I said that Auburn instituted the policy. They 
are utilizing the policy.

But, you are correct when you say that Auburn has also tried to scare them 
away. This is a link to press coverage about the issue, called a wildlife 
killing contest until 2005: http://lodestone.org/people/hoss/ar/crowshoot/

I haven't heard much about it for a few years.

Michele

From: bounce-7532814-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-7532814-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Nutter
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:42 PM
To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Auburn and crow hunting

The crow hunting season is a New York State DEC policy.
It doesn't make sense to me.  I don't think people eat them.
There are other DEC policies about killing animals that are
damaging farm crops outside of hunting seasons, I believe.
I think the policies of Auburn were to try to deter the birds,
not outright kill them.  However there were a few guys with
guns who set up just outside Auburn itself to try to shoot
crows.  Again, it doesn't make sense to me unless they
were trying to feed their families, which I doubt
And again, corrections welcome.
--Dave Nutter

On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Michele Emerick Brown m...@cornelledu wrote:
Sadly-(and I hope to be corrected)-but I think Auburn's solution was to 
institute a crow hunting season.

http://www.tonews.com/post/3339713/clari/web/local/newyork/misc/ny_crow_hunt_expected_to_draw_crowd.html


From: bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Asher Hockett
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:36 PM
To: Andrew Roe
Cc: Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

Large roosts of crows are famous. A few years ago, Auburn, NY, near the upper 
reaches of Cayuga Lake, had to resort to drastic (but non-violent) measures to 
rid the city of tens of thousands of them. Maybe Ithaca has a reputation for 
being more crow friendly. Here we have our own reverse pied piper in crow 
expert Kevin McGowan, who will likely add his educated perspective to my 
unscientific babbling

They are using the slopes of south hill which lead down into 6 Mile Creek and 
the neighborhoods bordering the creek area for the roost these days (or nights, 
actually).
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Roe 
andrew.walker@gmail.commailto:andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:
This is only my second winter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from the 
southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there seem to be an 
ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and Cornell- swirling at dusk, 
covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, blotting out the sun, etc.

Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all birds 
passing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on the Lab of O in 
the works?

Thanks,

Andrew



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Have been searching for a best place to buy drugs? here it is: Follow the crows!!

2010-12-16 Thread Stefan Hames PhD
Hmm. The crows knows.

S.

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 have an explanation of roosts at 
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/crowfaq.htm#roost

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Instructor
Home Study Course in Bird Biology
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
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Ithaca, NY 14850
k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu
607-254-2452

From: 
bounce-7531499-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-7531499-3493...@list.cornell.edu
 [mailto:bounce-7531499-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin J. McGowan
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:19 AM
To: cayugabirds-l@cornell.edumailto:cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

I have little to add and nothing to correct in Dave’ nice summary.  Crows in 
and around Ithaca usually choose among several modest roosts (500-5,000 crows). 
 Some years the main Ithaca roost is hardly noticeable, and in others it’s in 
your face.  The crows typically stage on the Cornell and Ithaca Country Club 
golf courses before heading to the main roost.  Exactly where the final roost 
is changes between and within seasons.  I have not been downtown in the 
evening, and I do not know where the final roost is at this time.

Kevin J. McGowan, Ph.D.
Instructor
Home Study Course in Bird Biology
Cornell Lab of Ornithology
159 Sapsucker Woods Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

2010-12-16 Thread David Smith
Just for the record, Auburn is at the foot of Owasco Lake and Owasco 
Creek flows north.  Owasco Inlet starts in vicinity of Groton nd flows 
north to Owasco Lake.


On 12/16/2010 3:43 PM, Linda Post Van Buskirk wrote:

 To clarify:  Auburn is at the head of Owasco Lake, the small Finger 
 Lake that lies between Cayuga Lake and Skaneateles Lake.

 Linda P. Van Buskirk, Ph.D.

 Sr. Lecturer in Communication

 Cornell University

 Ithaca, New York

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 *From:*bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu 
 [mailto:bounce-7530811-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Asher 
 Hockett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:36 PM
 *To:* Andrew Roe
 *Cc:* Cayugabirds-L@cornell.edu
 *Subject:* Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows?

 Large roosts of crows are famous. A few years ago, Auburn, NY, near 
 the upper reaches of Cayuga Lake, had to resort to drastic (but 
 non-violent) measures to rid the city of tens of thousands of them. 
 Maybe Ithaca has a reputation for being more crow friendly. Here we 
 have our own reverse pied piper in crow expert Kevin McGowan, who 
 will likely add his educated perspective to my unscientific babbling.

 They are using the slopes of south hill which lead down into 6 Mile 
 Creek and the neighborhoods bordering the creek area for the roost 
 these days (or nights, actually).

 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Roe 
 andrew.walker@gmail.com mailto:andrew.walker@gmail.com wrote:

 This is only my second winter in Ithaca (I'm a grad student, here from 
 the southeast) so I don't really know how normal this is- but there 
 seem to be an ENORMOUS number of crows around downtown Ithaca and 
 Cornell- swirling at dusk, covering roofs, nearly toppling trees, 
 blotting out the sun, etc.

 Can someone in the know let me know what's going on? Are these all 
 birds passing through, or is there some sort of monumental attack on 
 the Lab of O in the works?

 Thanks,

 Andrew




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