Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crow hunting regulations
"Devastation" makes it sound like the birds are knocking down buildings and people are dying. I think the word to describe crows' noise and droppings is "nuisance". And the term "murder" for a crow flock is a tad biased. I've also heard the term "congress" which is perhaps less derogatory.. or perhaps not.--Dave NutterOn Feb 09, 2012, at 09:05 PM, Mark Miller mmiller...@rochester.rr.com wrote: In NYS the crow season is Sep 1, 2011 to Mar 31, 2012 (all of upstate and Long Island, excluding NYC) but only on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mondays. There is no daily limit or possession limit. They are also exempt for HIP registration and maybe hunted with rifles and use of electronic calls. (from the NY hunting trapping 2011-2012 regulations). These are about the most lenient rules of any game species, but if you happen to be from Geneva or Auburn it's kind of hard to find anyone "pro crow" due to the devastation they cause. The rules are designed to help maintain population levels athealthy limits. Just FYI, I had a flock (murder) of about 1000 crows flying over me in the town ofWaterloo about 7 AM this morning (96A/East Lake Rd). -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
[cayugabirds-l] Crows
I didn't mean to start any battles, I was just relaying the info from the NYS Hunting Regulations (www.dec.ny.gov). Although I have hunted in the past (not for a few years), I have never shot a crow and was taught that you always eat what you kill. I grew up in a single income family of 8 and we often ate rabbit, squirrel, venison that we hunted. I realize that there are many non-sportsman (slob) hunters out there, but fishing hunting is a very regulated industry and is valuable in maintaining healthy population levels, not to mention bringing in major funding for wildlife and conservation (a non-resident fishing, hunting, trapping license, with all permits was $665.00 last year). FYI - the only deer I ever killed was with a 1970 Chevy Nova, another reason I prefer hunting seasons. As to the crows in Geneva, I enjoy driving along the lakeshore on 520 around sunrise/sunset and seeing the trees solid black with about 10,000 crows, but then again, I don't live there. I would suggest that everyone should at least browse through the state fishing hunting regulations (available at Wal-Mart for free or on-line), if only to understand what the regulations are and why. It will also give you a better understanding of what changes are needed (such as wider use of non-lead shot). -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] 2 Western Grebes Twin Oaks Campground
Anne Marie Johnson and I watched them for about 30 minutes around 10:30am. Both grebes spent much of the time resting with head and neck tucked in. Easily missed if scanning for long white necks. They were not quite with the redhead mass, but instead loosely with some geese when we left. Kim Hartquist Rochester -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Sharpie West Hill
Had a not very productive morning birding only to return to my house and find a beautiful adult Sharp-shinned Hawk out my back window. I knew I should have stayed home -- Stephanie Greenwood Ecovillage at Ithaca 221 Rachel Carson Way Ithaca, NY 14850 607 273 1179 607 280 1050 cell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Crow Presentation tomorrow (Saturday) Location Change
Due to a scheduling conflict, Kevin's crow program will be at the Montour Falls library tomorow. That building is next door (east) of the former location. Starts at 1 PM. For those coming from Ithaca, be sure to visit the falls to the west of Main St. John -- John and Sue Gregoire Field Ornithologists Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory 5373 Fitzgerald Road Burdett,NY 14818-9626 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/ Conserve and Create Habitat -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Top of the lake visit
I stopped at many of the places Anne Marie did, only at different times (except for the Western Grebes at 10:30ish.) What truly amazes me is how much of a snapshot each of our visits really is and how much can change by the time the next birder arrives at a spot. What is there when we aren't looking? After my Twin Oaks stop, I headed south to Aurora (Wells college Boathouse), where Anne Marie had just been but I found 13 HORNED GREBES. It's certainly possible one could have been eared, but they were pretty far out and I saw nothing different enough to consider. There were also about 250 COOTS and a mottled CROW, numerous white blotches, the rest seemed sort of brownish instead of jet black. (Couldn't get a pic before it left.) Across the lake and a little south from Aurora were 1000s of SNOW GEESE. Visible in scope with many coming in, but impossible to see the depth of the long line from that far. After this stop, I decided to go back up north and around to the west side. On a whim, I stopped again at Twin Oaks. This time, no obvious Western Grebes. The geese had scattered, the redheads (etc.) were still thick in the distance (north). They were likely with the redheads, but impossible to pick out. I didn't spend as much time since I had seen them earlier. There were also two BALD EAGLES - one adult, one juvenile - feeding on something on the shore. (not a grebe, the eagles were there earlier too.) At the very north end of the lake, off River road? (I'm not sure where best to see this section, or what you call it), there were lots of various ducks and geese. RINGNECKS, WIGEON, CANVASBACK, GADWALL, to name some. Finally I got to Dean's Cove which seems to be across the lake from Aurora and now those snow geese were back across the lake on the east side! From Dean's cove, I saw 7 REDBREASTED MERGS and 2 COMMON LOONS close in. A fun day on Cayuga lake today, Kim Hartquist Rochester -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Castelli's Marina in Union Springs
Over the yrs., with no problems that I know of, many have birded walked at the marina here in Union Springs. Last yr. the marina was sold re-named Frontenac Marine. I was there on Tues. Wed. no problem. Yesterday, when Becky I went down, a boat had been parked across the driveway. Today a yellow NO TRESSPASSING sign was up. Soo Do your birding from Frontenac Park where the boat launch is. On a happier note, Becky I tried again today to see the w. grebes from the home of a friend about 10 a.m.. The T. swans great rafts of ducks were well north of Yawger Creek Twin Oaks. We finally had to give up to run errands but a flyover adult B. Eagle was a treat. After lunch we went back to Twin Oaks where we met up with Dave Wheeler from Syr. the Clements from Elmira. Only thing of interest was a MINK on the ice in the inner harbor. It dove several times through the slush ice came up with some creature that it ate. That was a treat . to the mink us. Becky got a picture of it. Dave followed us out a new un-named road at the RR tracks ... too far north the birds were in a siesta mode but Dave managed to spot the very distant western grebes. So, we led him back to the home of our friend, closer to the rafts. There he re-found them amidst that mass of feathers we finally got to see the elusive, beautiful grebes. Becky had seen them often in her 32 yrs. in CO, both Western Clark's. I saw a Clark's there in '02. Dave took pictures so hopefully he will post them. The rafts were moving back south, apparently due to 2 big pieces of noisy equipment working on the lake shore. So tonight several more of us can go to bed feeling triumphant that we saw what we had diligently sought. With thanks to all, Fritzie Blizzard Becky Sewell -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Midnight crow cries
Yesterday night, almost around 00.00 hours (because 12.00 bus just passed my house), the crow family that nests in my back yard spruce/pine started calling. Commotion was on for about 4 to 5 minutes. I did not hear anything else. I suspect that an owl was on prowl. Sure at this time of the year there won't be any snakes out to steal eggs or catch females. In recent days they have been sneaky. In the past years I have seen a couple of dead crows. Any idea if anything else, what could bother them? I was just looking out of office window and I could see gulls heading to Cornell dump. I noticed they go mostly in groups 20 to 30, may contain Ring-billed, Herring and Great-black backed. At times I have noticed some of the groups are pure young birds. So it is intriguing who are members of these group? Meena -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Midnight crow cries
Bright moon then. Maybe the crows spotted prowling raccoons? Geo Yesterday night, almost around 00.00 hours (because 12.00 bus just passed my house), the crow family that nests in my back yard spruce/pine started calling. -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Fairhaven to Sodus Bay- Trumpeter Swan, King Eider
Today Sterling pond in Fairhaven SP was mostly open with 4 Hooded Mergansers and 6 Ring-necked Ducks being the highlights. Just like the pairs of Canada geese at just about every pond, iced over or not, 2 Trumpeter Swans were on a small pond at the corner of Larkin Road and Cemetery road in Wolcott. Large numbers of Redhead, Greater Scaup and White-winged Scoters were spread out from Sodus Point to Eagle Island with lesser numbers of Long Tailed Ducks, Common Mergansers, Lesser Scaup, Canvasback and Coot. 6 Gadwall were south of the Ridge Road bridge on the SE edge of the bay. Even though the scoters were all in the bay, the female King Eider was still close in the outlet opposite the parking lot with the large concentration of Long-tailed ducks. At 4pm, 4 Common Loons that had been scattered around the bay swam and dove their way out to the lake for the night. Mike Tetlow -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
