Re: [cayugabirds-l] ANy resource for hybrid warbler photos?

2014-05-14 Thread Jay McGowan
Hi Alicia,
Warbler hybrids do occur, but in general they are less frequent (or at
least less frequently reported) than in some other groups, such as ducks.
The exception of course is Blue-winged x Golden-winged crosses, which are
seen quite frequently, especially in this part of the world. The bird you
describe sounds to me like an immature male American Redstart, which look
essentially identical to females their first year but often look blotchily
transitional their second. I just saw a similar looking bird to what you
describe at Sapsucker Woods, mostly like a female redstart but with a small
black mask and blotchy black markings on the body. Take a look at some
photos on the web and see if that seems reasonable for what you saw.

-Jay


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Alicia Plotkin t...@zoom-dsl.com wrote:

 Hi,

  As often happens after storms in May, we had a bunch of warblers in
 our yard this morning, and I just got in from four hours of watching them.
  (Since the part of our yard involved is only about an acres, this is a lot
 of time - partly it was birdy, partly it's hard to come in when there is
 anything at all to watch or hear.)  One bird definitely was not a standard
 issue warbler, but I don't have a camera so am reduced to looking at other
 people's pictures, although it was extremely cooperative and staying in
 clear view at or a little above eye level for 20 minutes and may still be
 there for all I know!  (But my neighbors with cameras have all gone to
 work.)  It seemed redstart-ish in many ways - size, feeding patterns, songs
 variable and generally w/i the redstart spectrum - and it also in many ways
 was like a female redstart in overall color.  However, the tail had a bit
 less yellow, it had a single short and very slim buffy wingbar, and, most
 peculiarly, it s head had a greyish cast and also a black mask that
 extended to the eyes. It had the same yellow shoulder patches but it also
 had a fairly large blotch of black on it's upper breast that was slightly
 off center to the left, where it met the yellow patch, but didn't extend
 nearly as far to the right; and a much smaller blotch a bit below that and
 on the right, with one or two very short vertical black lines below that
 smaller blotch.  The rest of the chin and breast, all the way to the tail,
 were white.

  I don't really expect anyone to recognize this bird from this
 description, but if you could point me toward a resource with photos. I'd
 be much obliged.

Alicia
oob in Ovid

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] ANy resource for hybrid warbler photos?

2014-05-14 Thread Alicia Plotkin
Yep, that's it!  While I haven't found any quite as weird as the bird I 
saw, the mask definitely seems identical to several, and one shows small 
blotches on the upper breast.

Thanks, Jay!

Alicia



On 5/14/2014 11:59 AM, Jay McGowan wrote:
 Hi Alicia,
 Warbler hybrids do occur, but in general they are less frequent (or at 
 least less frequently reported) than in some other groups, such as 
 ducks. The exception of course is Blue-winged x Golden-winged crosses, 
 which are seen quite frequently, especially in this part of the world. 
 The bird you describe sounds to me like an immature male American 
 Redstart, which look essentially identical to females their first year 
 but often look blotchily transitional their second. I just saw a 
 similar looking bird to what you describe at Sapsucker Woods, mostly 
 like a female redstart but with a small black mask and blotchy black 
 markings on the body. Take a look at some photos on the web and see if 
 that seems reasonable for what you saw.

 -Jay


 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Alicia Plotkin t...@zoom-dsl.com 
 mailto:t...@zoom-dsl.com wrote:

 Hi,

  As often happens after storms in May, we had a bunch of
 warblers in our yard this morning, and I just got in from four
 hours of watching them.  (Since the part of our yard involved is
 only about an acres, this is a lot of time - partly it was birdy,
 partly it's hard to come in when there is anything at all to watch
 or hear.)  One bird definitely was not a standard issue warbler,
 but I don't have a camera so am reduced to looking at other
 people's pictures, although it was extremely cooperative and
 staying in clear view at or a little above eye level for 20
 minutes and may still be there for all I know!  (But my neighbors
 with cameras have all gone to work.)  It seemed redstart-ish in
 many ways - size, feeding patterns, songs variable and generally
 w/i the redstart spectrum - and it also in many ways was like a
 female redstart in overall color.  However, the tail had a bit
 less yellow, it had a single short and very slim buffy wingbar,
 and, most peculiarly, it s head had a greyish cast and also a
 black mask that extended to the eyes. It had the same yellow
 shoulder patches but it also had a fairly large blotch of black on
 it's upper breast that was slightly off center to the left, where
 it met the yellow patch, but didn't extend nearly as far to the
 right; and a much smaller blotch a bit below that and on the
 right, with one or two very short vertical black lines below that
 smaller blotch.  The rest of the chin and breast, all the way to
 the tail, were white.

  I don't really expect anyone to recognize this bird from this
 description, but if you could point me toward a resource with
 photos. I'd be much obliged.

Alicia
oob in Ovid

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