Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-09 Thread Terry P. Mingle 
That’s funny….they don’t seem to have any reviews on Facebook.  (Hahaha - 
probably removed them).   
https://www.facebook.com/Ironwood-Heavy-Highway-LLC-294538850881715 
<https://www.facebook.com/Ironwood-Heavy-Highway-LLC-294538850881715>

I wonder where else we could review them?

—Terry



> On Jun 9, 2018 , at 10:02 AM, cl...@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Someone else to contact: 
> https://www.ironwoodheavyhighway.com/services/vegetation-management-land-clearing
>  
> <https://www.ironwoodheavyhighway.com/services/vegetation-management-land-clearing>
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Terry P. Mingle" 
> To: Karen Edelstein 
> Cc: Carol Schmitt , , Read Marie 
> , , Evans Bill 
> , , 
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:28:12 -0400
> 
> They were doing this in my neighborhood in Cortland as well. The trees that 
> they trim look absolutely horrible, and many of them die off in a few years. 
> These people are hacks, pure and simple. My father used to prune our trees 
> (he was a great gardener) and he always took great care to still make the 
> trees and bushes look nice when he was finished. Not these people, they just 
> hack through. Looks more like branches were twisted off or ripped in some 
> places when they get done. It’s sad that they are so careless and (worse) 
> so desensitized to people’s feelings about things on their property (some 
> sentimental) that have been there for years. I understand that they need to 
> protect their investments as well, but the people that come to do it are 
> sometimes not very nice. I once said something about checking for baby birds 
> or other animals, and they were pretty much like….�oh 
> well�……�hazards of the job�……..so rude.  Not happy.   :-(
> 
>  
> —Terry
>  
> ===
> 
> On Jun 8, 2018 , at 11:10 PM, Karen Edelstein  <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
> 
> Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing business. 
> It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that garden into 
> place. ..
> 
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  <mailto:cfschm...@aol.com>> wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cut early this winter.  
> Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
> mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the 
> ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our front steps.  
> Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottage for 
> the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes 
> happen� and “our guys are only human�.  He said I can try to file a 
> claim through their website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch 
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any trees 
> they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif mailto:mna...@live.com>>
> To: Marie P. Read mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>; Karen L 
> Edelstein mailto:k...@cornell.edu>>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
> Cc: Bill Evans  <mailto:wrev...@clarityconnect.com>>; Donna Lee Scott  <mailto:d...@cornell.edu>>; Candace Cornell  <mailto:cec...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email� page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html 
> <https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html>
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
> <https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG> which says Binghamton but regardless, it 
> ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos <http://flickr.com/arif-photos>
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos <http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos>
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com <https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com/>
>  
> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-09 Thread Terry P. Mingle 
They were doing this in my neighborhood in Cortland as well. The trees that 
they trim look absolutely horrible, and many of them die off in a few years. 
These people are hacks, pure and simple. My father used to prune our trees (he 
was a great gardener) and he always took great care to still make the trees and 
bushes look nice when he was finished. Not these people, they just hack 
through. Looks more like branches were twisted off or ripped in some places 
when they get done. It’s sad that they are so careless and (worse) so 
desensitized to people’s feelings about things on their property (some 
sentimental) that have been there for years. I understand that they need to 
protect their investments as well, but the people that come to do it are 
sometimes not very nice. I once said something about checking for baby birds or 
other animals, and they were pretty much like….”oh well”……”hazards of the 
job”……..so rude.  Not happy.   :-(

—Terry

===

> On Jun 8, 2018 , at 11:10 PM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:
> 
> Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing business. 
> It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that garden into 
> place. ..
> 
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  <mailto:cfschm...@aol.com>> wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cut early this winter.  
> Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
> mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the 
> ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our front steps.  
> Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottage for 
> the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and 
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through their 
> website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch 
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any trees 
> they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif mailto:mna...@live.com>>
> To: Marie P. Read mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>; Karen L 
> Edelstein mailto:k...@cornell.edu>>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
> Cc: Bill Evans  <mailto:wrev...@clarityconnect.com>>; Donna Lee Scott  <mailto:d...@cornell.edu>>; Candace Cornell  <mailto:cec...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html 
> <https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html>
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
> <https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG> which says Binghamton but regardless, it 
> ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos <http://flickr.com/arif-photos>
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos <http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos>
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com <https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com/>
>  
> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
> <mailto:77717...@list.cornell.edu> 
>  <mailto:77717...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>  
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
> 
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
> under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
> this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
> nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
> when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
> removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
> when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
> Thanks!"
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-09 Thread Asher Hockett 
NYSEG let us know last year they were going to "trim" roadside trees in our
neighborhood, and would talk to us when they came. They subcontract this
work, and the workers didn't talk to us, and the essentially pillaged the
entire length of South Danby Rd. I contacted them and insisted that they
return and buck up the long pieces into usable firewood sized length. They
did, but only very close to the house. The rest of the road looks like a
twister went through. A very pretty road when we moved here is now quite
ugly, IMO.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Alicia  wrote:

> We pretty much live in the woods but have planted a lot of bird-attracting
> perennials in the opening around our house, which also hosts NYSEG lines.
> Years ago NYSEG left a card on our door saying that they would be 'tree
> trimming' soon and to contact them if we wanted to be notified of the date
> so we could be present.  I did that - I think I spoke with someone who
> identified himself as the NYSEG forester? - and he said they would be in
> touch before they came.  He also reminded me that within the utility right
> of way that they own, they have a right to remove anything growing there
> that they deem a potential danger to the lines.  They actually have not
> cleared the lines here since they left that card, but we hope they would
> follow through and contact us as promised. It has been a lot more than 5
> yrs since then ...
>
> Alicia
>
>
> On 6/8/2018 7:24 PM, Carol Schmitt wrote:
>
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely *clear-cut* early this
> winter.  Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples
> with a likely mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced
> off at the ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our
> front steps.  Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened
> the cottage for the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through
> their website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this,
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any
> trees they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif  
> To: Marie P. Read  ; Karen L
> Edelstein  ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
>  
> Cc: Bill Evans  ;
> Donna Lee Scott  ; Candace Cornell
>  
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> Marie, Thank you.
>
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page: https://www.nyseg.com/
> WritetoNYSEG.html
>
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us
> to post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/
> NYSEandG which says Binghamton but regardless, it ought to get their
> attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com
>
> --
> *From:* bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu  77717...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> *To:* Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Cc:* Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> *Subject:* RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
>
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush
> hogging under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to
> stress that this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are
> numerous birds nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts
> will be destroyed when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this
> time of year, this removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary.
> Please wait until autumn when the birds have finished nesting and are
> leaving the area for the winter. Thanks!"
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=452+Ringwood+Road+%0D%0AFreeville+NY%C2%A0+13068+USA=gmail=g>
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
>
> Phone  607-539-6608
> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu
>
> Website: http://www.marieread.com
> Follow me on Facebook:  h

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-09 Thread Glenn Wilson 
We have the same problem with both buried gas line and overhead power lines. 
They bull dozed a 40 foot wide path through hundreds of feet of our land and 
left it so bumpy I can’t drive it. The only positive is we now have Field 
Sparrows. 

I HATE NYSE

Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
www.WilsonsWarbler.com

On Jun 8, 2018, at 11:10 PM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:

Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing business. 
It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that garden into place. 
..

> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cut early this winter.  
> Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
> mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the 
> ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our front steps.  
> Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottage for 
> the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and 
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through their 
> website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch 
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any trees 
> they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif 
> To: Marie P. Read ; Karen L Edelstein ; 
> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Cc: Bill Evans ; Donna Lee Scott 
> ; Candace Cornell 
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
> which says Binghamton but regardless, it ought to get their attention. (I’ve 
> posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com
>  
> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> 
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>  
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
> 
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
> under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
> this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
> nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
> when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
> removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
> when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
> Thanks!"
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
> 
> Phone  607-539-6608
> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu
> 
> Website: http://www.marieread.com
> Follow me on Facebook:  
> https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/
> 
> From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein 
> [k...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging 
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With 
> the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the 
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) 
> dense growth.
> 
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere in 
> the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay cutting 
> at least until later in the summer.
> 
> Your thoughts?
> --
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Karen Edelstein 
Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing
business. It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that
garden into place. ..

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  wrote:

> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely *clear-cut* early this
> winter.  Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples
> with a likely mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced
> off at the ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our
> front steps.  Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened
> the cottage for the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through
> their website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this,
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any
> trees they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif 
> To: Marie P. Read ; Karen L Edelstein ;
> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Cc: Bill Evans ; Donna Lee Scott <
> d...@cornell.edu>; Candace Cornell 
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> Marie, Thank you.
>
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page:
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html
>
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us
> to post messages there. I found this page:
> https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG which says Binghamton but regardless,
> it ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com
>
> --
> *From:* bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu  77717...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> *To:* Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Cc:* Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> *Subject:* RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
>
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush
> hogging under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to
> stress that this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are
> numerous birds nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts
> will be destroyed when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this
> time of year, this removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary.
> Please wait until autumn when the birds have finished nesting and are
> leaving the area for the winter. Thanks!"
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
>
> Phone  607-539-6608
> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu
>
> Website: http://www.marieread.com
> Follow me on Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/
> 
> From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-122625773-
> 5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein [k...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd.
> With the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly)
> dense growth.
>
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere
> in the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay
> cutting at least until later in the summer.
>
> Your thoughts?
> --
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Alicia 
We pretty much live in the woods but have planted a lot of 
bird-attracting perennials in the opening around our house, which also 
hosts NYSEG lines.  Years ago NYSEG left a card on our door saying that 
they would be 'tree trimming' soon and to contact them if we wanted to 
be notified of the date so we could be present.  I did that - I think I 
spoke with someone who identified himself as the NYSEG forester? - and 
he said they would be in touch before they came.  He also reminded me 
that within the utility right of way that they own, they have a right to 
remove anything growing there that they deem a potential danger to the 
lines.  They actually have not cleared the lines here since they left 
that card, but we hope they would follow through and contact us as 
promised. It has been a lot more than 5 yrs since then ...

Alicia


On 6/8/2018 7:24 PM, Carol Schmitt wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely _clear-cut_ early this 
> winter.Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples 
> with a likely mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were 
> sliced off at the ground.My five bird feeders were removed and left on 
> our front steps.Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we 
> opened the cottage for the season.
> I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at 
> the damage.He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes 
> happen” and “our guys are only human”.He said I can try to file a 
> claim through their website.
> I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.Having found that simple 
> branch trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely 
> remove any trees they deem a possible future problem under any of 
> their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif 
> To: Marie P. Read ; Karen L Edelstein 
> ; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Cc: Bill Evans ; Donna Lee Scott 
> ; Candace Cornell 
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> Marie, Thank you.
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send 
> NYSEG a note, here is their “contact us by email” page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of 
> us to post messages there. I found this page: 
> https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG which says Binghamton but 
> regardless, it ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message 
> there as well).
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> muhammad arif
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> *From:* bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
> <mailto:77717...@list.cornell.edu> 
>  <mailto:77717...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> *To:* Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Cc:* Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> *Subject:* RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
>
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush 
> hogging under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want 
> to stress that this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! 
> There are numerous birds nesting in the utility access areas whose 
> breeding efforts will be destroyed when vegetation is removed. Have a 
> heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this removing vegetative cover is 
> cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn when the birds have 
> finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. Thanks!"
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
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>
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> <mailto:5851...@list.cornell.edu> 
> [bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
> <mailto:5851...@list.cornell.edu>] on behalf of Karen Edelstein 
> [k...@cornell.edu <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>]
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> I was dismayed to see tha

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Carol Schmitt 

Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cutearly this winter.  
Low-growthlilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
mature heightof 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the ground.  
My five bird feeders were removed andleft on our front steps. Mean-spirited and 
heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottagefor the season.
  I made anappointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
damage.  He said that although the decorativetrees in question were considered 
‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakeshappen” and “our guys are 
only human”. He said I can try to file a claim through their website.
   I wastold that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
contractingwith Ironwood Heavy Highway. Having found that simple branch 
trimming was not effective, NYSEG nowwill simply completely remove any trees 
they deem a possible future problemunder any of their power lines.
Carol Schmitt
-Original Message-

From: Muhammad Arif 
To: Marie P. Read ; Karen L Edelstein ; 
CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Cc: Bill Evans ; Donna Lee Scott 
; Candace Cornell 
Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines




Marie, Thank you.
 
I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a note, 
here is their “contact us by email” page:https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html
 
They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
post messages there. I found this page:https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG which 
says Binghamton but regardless, it ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a 
message there as well).
 
--
muhammad arif
http://flickr.com/arif-photos
http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com
 

From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Marie P. Read 

Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
 

I just sent NYSEG the following email:

"I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
Thanks!"

Marie






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452 Ringwood Road
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Phone  607-539-6608
e-mail   m...@cornell.edu

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From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein 
[k...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging vegetation 
down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With the nesting 
season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the probable mortality 
of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) dense growth.

While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere in 
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least until later in the summer.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread khmo 
Sounds familiar. We had this battle with NYSEG several years ago when
they were planning to do Rock Cabin Road next to Queen Catharine Marsh.
Many meetings and emails later and we managed to stop them from using
the aquatic approved version of glyphosate entirely and forged an
agreement for them to simply cut and trim. They have many miles of ROW
to maintain and I can understand the need to do some of it during
nesting season though find it distasteful. I would not want to see them
go back to chemical treatment which a lot of noise may engender. I hope
not. Many ROWS can not be accessed during winter, late fall and early
spring do ground conditions. Not easy being a NYSEG ROW maintainer. 

By the way, the old QCM group largely dissipated with only Elaine and us
trying to keep an eye on the place. 

John 

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On 2018-06-08 13:28, Karen Edelstein wrote:

> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging 
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With 
> the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the 
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) 
> dense growth. 
> 
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere in 
> the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay cutting 
> at least until later in the summer.  
> 
> Your thoughts?  
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Karen Edelstein 
Thanks all...let's keep the comments to NYSEG flowing.

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Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread ra...@minetor.com 
I just added my voice to this on the NYSEG page — it looks like I was the third 
to do so.  I’ll also tweet about this using @NYSEandG and #SaveTheBirds.


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> On Jun 8, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Muhammad Arif  wrote:
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email” 
> page:https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html 
> <https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html>
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
> <https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG>which says Binghamton but regardless, it 
> ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
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> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos <http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos>
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> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
> <mailto:bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu> 
>  <mailto:bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of Marie P. 
> Read mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>  
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
> 
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
> under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
> this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
> nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
> when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
> removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
> when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
> Thanks!"
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
> 
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> <mailto:bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu>] on behalf of Karen 
> Edelstein [k...@cornell.edu <mailto:k...@cornell.edu>]
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging 
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With 
> the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the 
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) 
> dense growth.
> 
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere in 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Muhammad Arif 
Marie, Thank you.



I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a note, 
here is their “contact us by email” page: 
https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html



They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG which 
says Binghamton but regardless, it ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a 
message there as well).



--
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http://flickr.com/arif-photos
http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com




From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Marie P. Read 

Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

I just sent NYSEG the following email:

"I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
Thanks!"

Marie






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Website: http://www.marieread.com
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From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein 
[k...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging vegetation 
down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With the nesting 
season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the probable mortality 
of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) dense growth.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Donna Lee Scott 
This happened w/NYSEG here before leaf-out in spring.
Also Tn of Lansing did along Lansing Station /Algerine/Bill George Roads before 
leaf-out. So ok for birds here, but bad where you all are!

Donna Scott
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 8, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Poppy Singer 
mailto:poppysinger.ith...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Same thing happened here in Ellis Hollow last summer.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Karen Edelstein 
mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging vegetation 
down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With the nesting 
season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the probable mortality 
of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) dense growth.

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the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay cutting at 
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Marie P. Read 
I just sent NYSEG the following email:

"I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
Thanks!"

Marie






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From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein 
[k...@cornell.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging vegetation 
down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With the nesting 
season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the probable mortality 
of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) dense growth.

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Poppy Singer 
Same thing happened here in Ellis Hollow last summer.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:

> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd.
> With the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly)
> dense growth.
>
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere
> in the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay
> cutting at least until later in the summer.
>
> Your thoughts?
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Melissa Groo 
I recently received a postcard from nyseg saying that it will be soon
happening at my place in Brooktondale. I called to speak to the supervisor
for my area to express my concern. He said they wouldn’t be getting to my
road till August. But I have been seeing it happening elsewhere.
Others might want to call proactively.

Melissa

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:44 AM AB Clark  wrote:

> The powerlines from Warren Road to Dankert Park were also brush hogged and
> cleared of similarly dense growth—many birds along there.  About 10 days
> ago.
>
> Anne
>
> Anne B Clark
> 147 Hile School Rd
> 
> Freeville, NY 13068
> 
> 607-222-0905
> anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:
>
> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd.
> With the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly)
> dense growth.
>
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere
> in the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay
> cutting at least until later in the summer.
>
> Your thoughts?
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread AB Clark 
The powerlines from Warren Road to Dankert Park were also brush hogged and 
cleared of similarly dense growth—many birds along there.  About 10 days ago.

Anne

Anne B Clark
147 Hile School Rd
Freeville, NY 13068
607-222-0905
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> On Jun 8, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:
> 
> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging 
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With 
> the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the 
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) 
> dense growth.
> 
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere in 
> the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay cutting 
> at least until later in the summer. 
> 
> Your thoughts? 
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[cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

2018-06-08 Thread Karen Edelstein 
I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging
vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd.
With the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the
probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly)
dense growth.

While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere
in the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay
cutting at least until later in the summer.

Your thoughts?

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