[cayugabirds-l] Only FOY sightings welcome?!

2009-10-18 Thread Alicia Plotkin
Dave Nutter wrote:
 Some neat birds were found Saturday that didn't get posted on Cayugabirds-L 
 ...  Neither was a first of year observation nor a bird which is unexpected, 
 but both are tough basin birds which few people have seen this year.  Should 
 such observations be put on the RBA?  
There are hundreds of birders who subscribe to Cayugabirds and 
relatively few keep first of year lists, let alone seek to be recognized 
as the person who discovered a FOY bird.  A posting of any even slightly 
unusual bird has value to us.  What a strange turn of events, that a 
list intended to disseminate information about wild bird sightings in 
and around the Finger Lakes Region in a timely manner might be morphing 
into one where only the documentation of first sightings is 
unquestionably appropriate.  I personally have no interest whatsoever in 
who saw a particular bird first, or if it was the first or second or 
whatever seen in the basin this year - I just want to hear about the birds!

  Alicia Plotkin

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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Only FOY sightings welcome?! [+ Cackling @ Stewart, Sat p.m.]

2009-10-18 Thread Paul Hurtado

Hello folks,

First, I should add that yesterday afternoon there was another CACKLING 
GOOSE around - it was at the west end of shore in Stewart Park among a 
group of migrant Canadas. It eventually flew off with a dozen or so other 
birds to the south west around 1:45pm.


Other birds visible from Stewart included the Dunlin on the red light 
house jetty, Gadwall, the adult LESSER BLACK BACKED GULL, and a male Ruddy 
Duck mixed in with the many Pie-billed Grebes.


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Second, some comments stemming from the Only FOU sightings welcome?! 
post.


I'd encourage EVERYONE (as I think would Kevin?) to share whatever it is 
they find worth sharing (rare or not) that is bird related.  This is an 
open forum used by the local birding community for many aspects of birding 
and we need to encourage (not discourage) all members of that community 
to be involved.


People on this list enjoy birds in many different ways: some find a great 
deal of value in documenting first of year (FOY) sightings, documenting 
rarities, investigating difficult IDs, and synthesizing the many 
observations made by the region's birding community for the benefit of 
that community.


I think most of us really appreciate these efforts. I have nothing but 
thanks and appreciation for Dave and others who take the time to keep 
track of such details, and make them available to the rest of us - good 
work folks! :)


That said, it's also true that many of us aren't all that interested in 
the more scientific or competitive aspects of birding.  Fortunately, 
there's plenty of room on the list for BOTH of these (and many other) 
ways of enjoying birds ;)


So how does such a motley group manage to coexist?  Here's a few ideas off 
the top of my head (others should feel free to add or make corrections!):


1.  Mutual respect - there's a huge diversity of folks on this list and 
each of us needs to respect or at least be mindful of that fact.


Borrowing some of Alicia's own words, I personally DO have an interest in 
who saw a particular bird first, or if it was the first or second or 
whatever seen in the basin this year.


To promote a list that serves to disseminate information about wild bird 
sightings in and around the Finger Lakes Region in a timely manner I 
think that encouraging participation and open communication is a good 
answer.


It's been said before but worth repeating: if you don't want to read a 
post - feel free to hit delete :)


2. Reward good behavior - every now and then take a moment to let someone 
know you like their contributions to the list.  If you enjoy seeing full 
trip lists, let it be known!  If you do NOT enjoy seeing full trip lists, 
remember to use your delete button instead of discouraging others.


If you must say or do something about those posts you find annoying or 
otherwise unwanted, politely remind others to help make it easier for you 
to use your delete button. Things like using informative subject lines can 
go a long way in this regard.


3. Participate and encourage others to participate - If you just want to 
hear about local bird species, help create an environment where folks post 
about local species. If you want to know more about fall warbler idea, 
feel free to start the conversation :)


Good birding all,
Paul

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