Re: [cayugabirds-l] meadowlark question
(As I was saying) ... so there's no magic date by which you can be sure the nesting is done, and still have time to make good hay. At some point you have to say OK, time to mow! -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] meadowlark question
First brood is probably fledged, but Eastern Meadowlarks may raise two broods, and in New York State Meadowlark eggs have been seen as late as August 1st (BBA). So there's no magic date by which -Geo On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Alicia Plotkin t...@zoom-dsl.com wrote: A meadowlark was singing on territory in neighbor's hayfield at least by April 28th this year. I heard him regularly, early in the day, for over a month and then my schedule changed so I do't really know if he still is singing there mornings or not. To my surprise, our neighbor just asked me if 'those birds of yours have finished with their nests' because he has been waiting to mow (!), but he says he can't wait much longer or his machinery will jam. A little research suggests that from first egg to fledging is under 30 days - so would it be safe to say that the meadowlarks should be finished nesting and it's OK to mow there now? BTW, I'm pretty sure there aren't any bobolinks are in that field - the only male we had this year seems to have left after the field across the road was mowed late last month. :-(The sad thing is that even just ten years ago we had scores of bobolinks and maybe a dozen male meadowlarks, as well as grasshopper more common grassland sparrows, and usually harriers, nesting on this one half mile stretch of road, but agricultural uses of the land have changed and now there is only this tiny remnant holding on ... So would really like to make sure this last meadowlark male his harem have had the chance to finish nesting, but not prolong it to the point where my neighbor doesn't want to do this in future years. Is it safe to tell him to go ahead and mow? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] meadowlark question
I would agree on the first broods being out and fly-worthy by now, most likely. And second or later broods are probably generally less successful, at least in such birds as Red-winged Blackbirds that actually do NOT raise two broods around here, although they may try-try-again as many as 4 times. Are Eastern Meadowlarks known to fledge and rear two broods? I wonder. In any case, now is much less likely to have an impact on successful, likely-to-survive young birds. Out my way, near Freeville, massive cutting of fields happened in 2nd week of June and I am pretty sure that redwings lost many broods, directly to mowing or indirectly to the hawks, crows and others (even Killdeer?) who immediately recruited to the fields. It was not an early year for redwing nesting, from what I could tell, and the parents were going in and out of specific sites still when the mowing happened. I had not seen any fledglings. So not only is there not single magic date, that date changes from year to year... Anne On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:45 AM, Geo Kloppel wrote: First brood is probably fledged, but Eastern Meadowlarks may raise two broods, and in New York State Meadowlark eggs have been seen as late as August 1st (BBA). So there's no magic date by which -Geo On Jun 26, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Alicia Plotkin t...@zoom-dsl.com wrote: A meadowlark was singing on territory in neighbor's hayfield at least by April 28th this year. I heard him regularly, early in the day, for over a month and then my schedule changed so I do't really know if he still is singing there mornings or not. To my surprise, our neighbor just asked me if 'those birds of yours have finished with their nests' because he has been waiting to mow (!), but he says he can't wait much longer or his machinery will jam. A little research suggests that from first egg to fledging is under 30 days - so would it be safe to say that the meadowlarks should be finished nesting and it's OK to mow there now? BTW, I'm pretty sure there aren't any bobolinks are in that field - the only male we had this year seems to have left after the field across the road was mowed late last month. :-(The sad thing is that even just ten years ago we had scores of bobolinks and maybe a dozen male meadowlarks, as well as grasshopper more common grassland sparrows, and usually harriers, nesting on this one half mile stretch of road, but agricultural uses of the land have changed and now there is only this tiny remnant holding on ... So would really like to make sure this last meadowlark male his harem have had the chance to finish nesting, but not prolong it to the point where my neighbor doesn't want to do this in future years. Is it safe to tell him to go ahead and mow? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] meadowlark question
The NY breeding season table in the BBA handbook says 1-2 broods for Eastern Meadowlark, but gives no indication of how common second broods might be. I suppose you could watch the field closely for evidence of a second nesting, but if your goal is to win the cooperation of farmers, then it might be much wiser to settle for having delayed just long enough to see the first brood fledged, and still get a good first cutting. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] meadowlark question
A meadowlark was singing on territory in neighbor's hayfield at least by April 28th this year. I heard him regularly, early in the day, for over a month and then my schedule changed so I do't really know if he still is singing there mornings or not. To my surprise, our neighbor just asked me if 'those birds of yours have finished with their nests' because he has been waiting to mow (!), but he says he can't wait much longer or his machinery will jam. A little research suggests that from first egg to fledging is under 30 days - so would it be safe to say that the meadowlarks should be finished nesting and it's OK to mow there now? BTW, I'm pretty sure there aren't any bobolinks are in that field - the only male we had this year seems to have left after the field across the road was mowed late last month. :-(The sad thing is that even just ten years ago we had scores of bobolinks and maybe a dozen male meadowlarks, as well as grasshopper more common grassland sparrows, and usually harriers, nesting on this one half mile stretch of road, but agricultural uses of the land have changed and now there is only this tiny remnant holding on ... So would really like to make sure this last meadowlark male his harem have had the chance to finish nesting, but not prolong it to the point where my neighbor doesn't want to do this in future years. Is it safe to tell him to go ahead and mow? -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
