Re: [ccp4bb] setpaths.sh

2007-12-28 Thread Kevin Cowtan
If you did a binary install, did you remember to run the post-install 
script: install.sh?


Does the $CEXAM/unix/runnable/run-all test work?


Meyer, Peter wrote:

Hi Li,

setpaths.sh (and variants for other shells) are generated during the cctbx build process (with ccp4-6.0.2, this might happen only if you're installing phaser).  


If you're doing a source install from both ccp4-6.0.2.tar.gz and 
phaser-1.3.3-cctbx-src.tar.gz, and have extracted both of the tarballs, then 
most likely something has gone wrong during the configure/build process (if 
you're installing differently, then I might be completely off-base here).  The 
first thing I'd check would be the version of python that's being used by 
libtbx.scons (with older versions of cctbx I had some problems with using 
python2.5 that were resolved by using python2.4 instead, although I believe 
these have been resolved).

Good luck,

Pete

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Li Sheng
Sent: Thu 12/27/2007 7:58 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] setpaths.sh
 



Dear All,

I installed ccp4 6.0.2 on my fedora8 platform. It
seems I need one extra file named setpaths.sh, which I can not
find in

$CCP4/lib/cctbx/cctbx_build/??
${CCP4}/src/phaser/phaser-${phaser_version}/build/${phaser_mtype}/

Where can I get such a file?
Thanks in advance.


Sincerely,
Li
12/27/2007





[ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Brenda Patterson

Hello,

I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is unclear,
but it is really puzzling me.

I have used phaser to generate a molecular replacement structure of my target
(which has 100% identity to my template) and this particular crystal I had
soaked with a ligand.

I have a density in my difference map which resembles my ligand.  The 
thing is,

it overlaps the density map of my structure and if I were to place the ligand
in that map, then there would be a steric clash.  Obviously I would expect the
ligand to be near to the structure, but not overlapping it?  I am 
uncertain how

to proceed?

Any helpful suggestions please?


Thanks in advance

Brenda


Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread David Briggs
Covalent modification?? Bias in 2fo-fc map?

Can you show us a pic of offending density?

Dave

On 28/12/2007, Brenda Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is
 unclear,
 but it is really puzzling me.

 I have used phaser to generate a molecular replacement structure of my
 target
 (which has 100% identity to my template) and this particular crystal I had
 soaked with a ligand.

 I have a density in my difference map which resembles my ligand.  The
 thing is,
 it overlaps the density map of my structure and if I were to place the
 ligand
 in that map, then there would be a steric clash.  Obviously I would expect
 the
 ligand to be near to the structure, but not overlapping it?  I am
 uncertain how
 to proceed?

 Any helpful suggestions please?


 Thanks in advance

 Brenda




-- 

David C. Briggs PhD
Father  Crystallographer
http://www.dbriggs.talktalk.net
AIM ID: dbassophile



Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Artem Evdokimov
What's the resolution? At low res it is possible to miss a subtle movement
of e.g. some sidechains which are being replaced by the ligand. What quality
parameters did the MR have? Can you omit the entire ligand binding site,
refine, and re-generate the map - what does it look like after that?

A picture would help!

Artem

-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda
Patterson
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:56 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with
structure?

Hello,

I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is
unclear,
but it is really puzzling me.

I have used phaser to generate a molecular replacement structure of my
target
(which has 100% identity to my template) and this particular crystal I had
soaked with a ligand.

I have a density in my difference map which resembles my ligand.  The 
thing is,
it overlaps the density map of my structure and if I were to place the
ligand
in that map, then there would be a steric clash.  Obviously I would expect
the
ligand to be near to the structure, but not overlapping it?  I am 
uncertain how
to proceed?

Any helpful suggestions please?


Thanks in advance

Brenda


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Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Lijun Liu
There is another possibility that your ligand is not fully occupied,  
if the binding site of protein endures an apparent change when bound  
by ligand.  Lijun


On Dec 28, 2007, at 7:55 AM, Brenda Patterson wrote:


Hello,

I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question  
is unclear,

but it is really puzzling me.

I have used phaser to generate a molecular replacement structure of  
my target
(which has 100% identity to my template) and this particular  
crystal I had

soaked with a ligand.

I have a density in my difference map which resembles my ligand.   
The thing is,
it overlaps the density map of my structure and if I were to place  
the ligand
in that map, then there would be a steric clash.  Obviously I would  
expect the
ligand to be near to the structure, but not overlapping it?  I am  
uncertain how

to proceed?

Any helpful suggestions please?


Thanks in advance

Brenda


Lijun Liu, PhD
Institute of Molecular Biology
HHMI  Department of Physics
University of Oregon
Eugene, OR 97403
541-346-4080




Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread William Scott
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:55:39 +
Brenda Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I am fairly new to this lark 

No problem.  With a name like Patterson, your future is guaranteed (unless of 
course you see everything in the world with intensity but no phase).
 
 I have a density in my difference map which resembles my ligand.  The 
 thing is,
 it overlaps the density map of my structure and if I were to place the 
ligand
 in that map, then there would be a steric clash.  ... how
 to proceed?
 
The best thing to do at this point is to refine your structure while omitting 
the residues involved in the potential steric clash. The ligand may bind by 
induced fit -- i.e., changing the conformation at the binding site from that of 
the original structure. When you do that, the density that comes back will be 
less biased, and the answer to how it fits together may be apparent at that 
point.


[ccp4bb] problem with 'generate' (cns_solve)

2007-12-28 Thread Mareike Kurz
I am refining a structure in which I had to model a small molecule  
(done with Dundee PRODRG2 server). After fitting the small molecule  
into the structure I merged the pdb's and used the merged pdb file  
for generate (cns_solve). (Just in case: I did put the top and par  
file for the small molecule into the input file).


In the obtained pdb.file from generate-the coordinates for the small  
molecule have changed in a way, that by loading this pdb into Coot,  
the molecule is not drawn properly anymore and appears at a random  
place in the structure.

In the output file from 'generate', I get the following error message:

COORREMARK
 COORHETATM1  OAA DRG 1   6.470   4.170   1.460  1.00  
20.00 O

 %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
 %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
 %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
 %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
 %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
 %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
 COORCONECT213
 COORCONECT3245
 COORCONECT43
 COORCONECT536
 COORCONECT65
 COOREND
 CHAIN end
 SEGMENT   end

and then later on:

 COORREMARK
 COORREMARK
 COORHETATM1  OAA DRG 1   6.470   4.170   1.460  1.00  
20.00 O
 COORHETATM2  CAD DRG 1   6.320   4.540   0.090  1.00  
20.00 C

 COORCONECT213
 COORCONECT3245
 COORCONECT43
 COORCONECT536
 COORCONECT65
 COOREND
 %READC-WRN: multiple coordinates for  6 atoms
 %READC-WRN: still886 missing coordinates (in selected subset)
 CNSsolve set echo=off end


I am fairly new to solve a structure including another small molecule  
and would really appreciate if someone could give me some advice.


Thank you very much in advance,
Mareike


Mareike Kurz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]








Re: [ccp4bb] problem with 'generate' (cns_solve)

2007-12-28 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam
Hi Mareike,

Did you also use Coot to fit the small molecule into the structure? If so, 
there might be some 
glitch at the stage of writing out the remodeled ligand... Do the coordinates 
for the small 
molecule look different within the input and output pdb files for the ligand 
when you look at the 
files manually?

Yes, you do need to specify the top and param files in the input file so that 
the connectivity and 
atom parameters for your ligand are output correctly by generate.inp.

Only other thing I can think of immediately is that the generate.inp file gives 
two choices for 
coordinate output format (either CNS format or O). Try writing out both ways 
and see if that helps.

Couple of quick things to check.
Raji





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Date: 28-dec-2007 18:48:57 -0500
From: Mareike Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] problem with 'generate' (cns_solve)

I am refining a structure in which I had to model a small molecule  
(done with Dundee PRODRG2 server). After fitting the small molecule  
into the structure I merged the pdb's and used the merged pdb file  
for generate (cns_solve). (Just in case: I did put the top and par  
file for the small molecule into the input file).

In the obtained pdb.file from generate-the coordinates for the small  
molecule have changed in a way, that by loading this pdb into Coot,  
the molecule is not drawn properly anymore and appears at a random  
place in the structure.
In the output file from 'generate', I get the following error message:

COORREMARK
  COORHETATM1  OAA DRG 1   6.470   4.170   1.460  1.00  
20.00 O
  %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
  %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
  %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
  %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
  %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
  %SEGMNT-ERR: attempt to enter duplicate residue  1DRG
  COORCONECT213
  COORCONECT3245
  COORCONECT43
  COORCONECT536
  COORCONECT65
  COOREND
  CHAIN end
  SEGMENT   end

and then later on:

  COORREMARK
  COORREMARK
  COORHETATM1  OAA DRG 1   6.470   4.170   1.460  1.00  
20.00 O
  COORHETATM2  CAD DRG 1   6.320   4.540   0.090  1.00  
20.00 C
  COORCONECT213
  COORCONECT3245
  COORCONECT43
  COORCONECT536
  COORCONECT65
  COOREND
  %READC-WRN: multiple coordinates for  6 atoms
  %READC-WRN: still886 missing coordinates (in selected subset)
  CNSsolve set echo=off end


I am fairly new to solve a structure including another small molecule  
and would really appreciate if someone could give me some advice.

Thank you very much in advance,
Mareike


Mareike Kurz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]








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[ccp4bb] detergent parameters

2007-12-28 Thread deliang
Hi ,

Sorry for the offtopic first. 

Could you provide any materials on line in terms of detergent parameters 
changing vs. temperature. I am very interested in how CMC, aggregation 
number,etc change from room temp. to 4 C. 

Thanks a lot and happy new year all!

Deliang