Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Joel Sussman
For detailed examination of this topic, see:

Koellner, G., Kryger, G., Millard, C. B., Silman, I., Sussman, J. L.  Steiner, 
T. (2000).
Active-site gorge and buried water molecules in crystal structures of 
acetylcholinesterase from Torpedo californica. Journal of Molecular Biology 
296, 713-735.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10669619

best regards,
Joel

On 30 Oct 2013, at 01:35, Ed Pozharski 
epozh...@umaryland.edumailto:epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote:

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/watertidy.html


On 10/29/2013 04:43 PM, Elise B wrote:
Hello,

I am working on a project with several (separate) structures of the same 
protein. I would like to be able to compare the solvent molecules between the 
structures, and it would be best if the waters that exist in roughly the same 
position in each PDB share the same residue number. Basically, I want to 
compare solvent molecule coordinates and assign similar locations the same name 
in each structure.

What would be the best strategy for re-numbering the water molecules such that 
those with similar coordinates in all the structures receive the same residue 
number? I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Elise Blankenship



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Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - years ago I wrote a program called watertidy to do just this -
but it asigned waters as OH0 OH1 OH2 with a according to what atom it
was H bonded too, and those names are not now permitted..

My way now is to read in a completed homologous structure - use SSM to
fit it over the new one - extract the HOHs from structure 1 - add them
to structure 2 - do some refinement and use COOT to decide which ones
are valid - the density fit picture shows wonderful red bars for
wrong'uns - then add more again using coot..
Eleanor

On 30 October 2013 06:49, Joel Sussman joel.suss...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:
 For detailed examination of this topic, see:

 Koellner, G., Kryger, G., Millard, C. B., Silman, I., Sussman, J. L. 
 Steiner, T. (2000).
 Active-site gorge and buried water molecules in crystal structures of
 acetylcholinesterase from Torpedo californica. Journal of Molecular Biology
 296, 713-735.

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10669619

 best regards,
 Joel

 On 30 Oct 2013, at 01:35, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote:

 http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/watertidy.html


 On 10/29/2013 04:43 PM, Elise B wrote:

 Hello,

 I am working on a project with several (separate) structures of the same
 protein. I would like to be able to compare the solvent molecules between
 the structures, and it would be best if the waters that exist in roughly the
 same position in each PDB share the same residue number. Basically, I want
 to compare solvent molecule coordinates and assign similar locations the
 same name in each structure.

 What would be the best strategy for re-numbering the water molecules such
 that those with similar coordinates in all the structures receive the same
 residue number? I'd appreciate any suggestions.

 Elise Blankenship



 --
 Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy?
Julian, King of Lemurs




Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
At deposition the PDB runs a script that renumbers authors'  waters according 
to a scheme based on the residue they are nearest from N to C terminus along 
each chain. This renumbering started  when waters were assigned to 
macromolecular chains rather than getting a chain id of their own.  I have 
failed to find the rationale explained in any PDB documents - but it could be 
motivated by this sort of consideration when waters from different chains or 
entries are to be compared. Having said that I do not know if there are any 
cases where this approach has successfully matched waters. ..


However an associated step which is certainly a help is that, in the case of 
multiple chains, the crystal symmetry is applied to replace waters with their 
symmetry equivalent position if it is closer to a different chain.

I believe a freely available program implementing a similar approach is 
WATERTIDY in CCP4 which might be a good place to start.  It gives a pretty 
complete output, detailing residues actually H-bonded to the waters, and you 
could parse that for further analysis and comparisons.

Best wishes.
  Martyn   


 From: Joel Sussman joel.suss...@weizmann.ac.il
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs
 


For detailed examination of this topic, see: 


Koellner, G., Kryger, G., Millard, C. B., Silman, I., Sussman, J. L.  Steiner, 
T. (2000). 
Active-site gorge and buried water molecules in crystal structures of 
acetylcholinesterase from Torpedo californica. Journal of Molecular Biology 
296, 713-735.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10669619

best regards,
Joel

On 30 Oct 2013, at 01:35, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote:

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/watertidy.html


On 10/29/2013 04:43 PM, Elise B wrote:

Hello,

I am working on a project with several (separate) structures of the same 
protein. I would like to be able to compare the solvent molecules between the 
structures, and it would be best if the waters that exist in roughly the same 
position in each PDB share the
 same residue number. Basically, I want to compare solvent molecule coordinates 
and assign similar locations the same name in each structure.

What would be the best strategy for re-numbering the water molecules such 
that those with similar coordinates in all the structures receive the same 
residue number? I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Elise Blankenship



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Oh, suddenly throwing a giraffe into a volcano to make water is crazy?
   Julian, King of Lemurs


Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Andreas Förster

Dear all,

this water discussion is flowing increasingly towards a place where I 
feel a bit out of my depth.


What is the convention for numbering water molecules?  Is there 
preference for:


- putting waters into a separate chain (W for water or S for solvent)?
- splitting waters according to the peptide chains in the structure?
- appending all waters to chain A?


Thanks.


Andreas




On 30/10/2013 11:57, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:

At deposition the PDB runs a script that renumbers authors'  waters
according to a scheme based on the residue they are nearest from N to C
terminus along each chain. This renumbering started  when waters were
assigned to macromolecular chains rather than getting a chain id of
their own.  I have failed to find the rationale explained in any PDB
documents - but it could be motivated by this sort of consideration when
waters from different chains or entries are to be compared. Having said
that I do not know if there are any cases where this approach has
successfully matched waters. ..

However an associated step which is certainly a help is that, in the
case of multiple chains, the crystal symmetry is applied to replace
waters with their symmetry equivalent position if it is closer to a
different chain.

I believe a freely available program implementing a similar approach is
WATERTIDY in CCP4 which might be a good place to start.  It gives a
pretty complete output, detailing residues actually H-bonded to the
waters, and you could parse that for further analysis and comparisons.

Best wishes.
   Martyn


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Re: [ccp4bb] crystals with large solvent content -dehydratation

2013-10-30 Thread Matthew Bowler
While there is no systematic study (I think) on this we have observed RH 
control systems and concentration of solutes can have the same effect - 
Photosystem 1 crystals were dehydrated by transferring them from 20% to 
40% PEG6000 resulting in a smaller unit cell and better diffraction 
properties - this is a decrease in the vapour pressure above these 
solutions from 99 to 96.5% RH.  We found that we could reproduce the 
same transition using the HC1 from 99 to 97% in RH.  This also applies 
to cases where glycerol and ethylene glycol have been used. I agree with 
your assessment that there is a difference between osmotic pressure and 
hydrostatic pressure but it does seem to depend more on the mole 
fraction of water in the system - this is directly proportional to the 
vapour pressure above a solution (Raoult's law). I have always presumed 
that by removing water molecules in the solvent channels (either by 
reducing RH surrounding xtals or by replacing them with something else 
in the channels) will 'exert pressure' on the crystal lattice - 
unfortunately I have no evidence for this, best wishes, Matt.




On 29/10/2013 17:13, Edward A. Berry wrote:
I wonder if there is a big difference between dehydrating in a drop, 
where the amount of mother liquor is essentially unlimited, and 
dehydrating a mounted crystal in something like the FMS, where there 
is only a thin film of ML on the surface. In the latter case, once the 
surface fluid is gone, assuming surface tension prevents air from 
entering the channels, the tendency for further evaporation will cause 
reduced hydrostatic pressure in the channels, and the pressure 
differential will exert a physical force to shrink the crystal (and to 
oppose further evaporation). If soaking in a droplet with salt at high 
osmolarity, salt freely enters the channels, so there is no 
hydrostatic pressure difference betwene inside and outside. With PEG 
it would depend whether the PEG can enter channels, with large PEG and 
small channels there would be an osmotic pressure gradient to shrink 
the crystal. So it would seem that equilibrating at a certain RH in 
the FMS vs in a droplet could have very different results. is there 
any data on this?


Matthew Bowler wrote:

Hi Andre,
a very effective method is the use of a humidity control device. It 
has the great
advantage that you can characterize changes that occur and also move 
straight to data
collection. There are several HC1 devices in Europe (developed here 
at the EMBL and
available at Diamond, BESSY and MaxLab) and at least 1 in the USA - 
there is also the FMS.
You can of course also do this in the lab but the disadvantage is 
that any change induced
cannot be observed. The relative humidity (RH) that is in equilibrium 
with your mother
liquor is 99%, you could think about slowly replacing the reservoir 
solution with
increasing salt solutions so as to dehydrate in the drop - this 
avoids handling the
crystal - equations to convert between PEG concentrations and salt 
concentrations for RH

matching can be found here:
http://www.esrf.eu/UsersAndScience/Experiments/MX/How_to_use_our_beamlines/forms/equation-4 



Below are some links that might help, best wishes, Matt.


Website for HC1 experiments at the ESRF:
http://www.esrf.eu/UsersAndScience/Experiments/MX/About_our_beamlines/ID14-2/HC1b 



Calculation website for mother liquor RH equilibria: 
http://go.esrf.eu/RH





On 29/10/2013 16:18, Andre Godoy wrote:

Dear all

I'm trying to solve a beautiful large crystal that, unfortunately, 
doesn't go further
than 5 A resolution. I believe that in this case, the lack of 
resolution is due the high
solvent content (about 66%). Therefore, my next strategy should be 
the dehydratation.
Yet, I never (sucessfully) did that. I read different approachs, 
were people equilibrate
crystals in dehydratation solution for days, or do more than 20 
steps, or add solvents.
Since i never had sucess in my trials, I was thinking that someone 
can suggest a
protocol (should I remove all salt?, should I keep the additive 
concentration?, how much

precipitant should I add? how many steps?).

crystal condition: 23% PEG 3350, 0.2M NaCl, 0.1M Tris pH 8.5, 3% 
galactose (orthorhombic

crystals, with about  0.6 x 0.6 mm)

all the best,

Andre Godoy


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Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Andreas,

I am not sure there is a convention, but there has been a decision.
When you deposit a structure with the PDB, they place all ligands
including water molecules to the respective nearest macromolecular
chain. I found this rather annoying the other day as I looked at the
polymerase structure and wanted to take a look at the Zn-atoms.
Instead of navigating through chain Z, where probably many
crystallographers would have put them, I had to check the PDB (text)
file for the correct chain and residue number and enter this into the
'goto'-field of coot.

If I understand some people correctly, this is not a shortcoming of
the PDB-format, but of the software developer developing the software
I used. So I am waiting for the next version of coot/mmdb with voice
recognition where I can just say Coot, please centre on the next Zn
in this structure. Or at least opening a pop-up window saying This
is you coot speaking. This structure contains 6 Zn atoms, and I feel
that you are interested in looking at their environment. Please click
'yes' to centre on the next Zn-atom I think is most suitable for you
to look at ;-)

Best,
Tim

On 10/30/2013 01:09 PM, Andreas Förster wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 this water discussion is flowing increasingly towards a place where
 I feel a bit out of my depth.
 
 What is the convention for numbering water molecules?  Is there 
 preference for:
 
 - putting waters into a separate chain (W for water or S for
 solvent)? - splitting waters according to the peptide chains in the
 structure? - appending all waters to chain A?
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Andreas
 
 
 
 
 On 30/10/2013 11:57, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:
 At deposition the PDB runs a script that renumbers authors'
 waters according to a scheme based on the residue they are
 nearest from N to C terminus along each chain. This renumbering
 started  when waters were assigned to macromolecular chains
 rather than getting a chain id of their own.  I have failed to
 find the rationale explained in any PDB documents - but it could
 be motivated by this sort of consideration when waters from
 different chains or entries are to be compared. Having said that
 I do not know if there are any cases where this approach has 
 successfully matched waters. ..
 
 However an associated step which is certainly a help is that, in
 the case of multiple chains, the crystal symmetry is applied to
 replace waters with their symmetry equivalent position if it is
 closer to a different chain.
 
 I believe a freely available program implementing a similar
 approach is WATERTIDY in CCP4 which might be a good place to
 start.  It gives a pretty complete output, detailing residues
 actually H-bonded to the waters, and you could parse that for
 further analysis and comparisons.
 
 Best wishes. Martyn
 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
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Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Ulrich Gohlke
Dear Elise,

 Try the 3Dss server (http://cluster.physics.iisc.ernet.in/3dss/). You can 
superimpose up to 20 structures and look for invariant waters.

Cheers,

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Re: [ccp4bb] Unrelated - Emulsiflex C3 leaking

2013-10-30 Thread Bosch, Juergen
We've had that leak as well some time ago. Dismantle and reassemble it is the 
trick. Just a slight angle when tightening it will lead to that problem. This 
is usually the case because of overtughtening the reservoir to the main part of 
the machine. Keep it always straight when closing it again.
Jürgen 

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:44, Chiara Rapisarda chiara.rapisa...@pasteur.fr 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 sorry for the unrelated e-mail, but we have an emulsiflex C3 and it leaks 
 from the chamber that contains the sample as I show in the figure. The 
 Avestin European support was not very helpful, has anybody experienced a 
 similar leak and has succeeded in fixing it?
 
 Chiara
 Diapositive1.jpg
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Eugene Krissinel
This is to be answered by PDB people, who definitely read BB :)

Would be nice to have a tool common between CCP4/Phenix and the PDB which sorts 
this out

Eugene

On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:09, Andreas Förster wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 this water discussion is flowing increasingly towards a place where I feel a 
 bit out of my depth.
 
 What is the convention for numbering water molecules?  Is there preference 
 for:
 
 - putting waters into a separate chain (W for water or S for solvent)?
 - splitting waters according to the peptide chains in the structure?
 - appending all waters to chain A?
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Andreas
 
 
 
 
 On 30/10/2013 11:57, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:
 At deposition the PDB runs a script that renumbers authors'  waters
 according to a scheme based on the residue they are nearest from N to C
 terminus along each chain. This renumbering started  when waters were
 assigned to macromolecular chains rather than getting a chain id of
 their own.  I have failed to find the rationale explained in any PDB
 documents - but it could be motivated by this sort of consideration when
 waters from different chains or entries are to be compared. Having said
 that I do not know if there are any cases where this approach has
 successfully matched waters. ..
 
 However an associated step which is certainly a help is that, in the
 case of multiple chains, the crystal symmetry is applied to replace
 waters with their symmetry equivalent position if it is closer to a
 different chain.
 
 I believe a freely available program implementing a similar approach is
 WATERTIDY in CCP4 which might be a good place to start.  It gives a
 pretty complete output, detailing residues actually H-bonded to the
 waters, and you could parse that for further analysis and comparisons.
 
 Best wishes.
   Martyn
 
 -- 
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 Crystallization and Xray Facility Manager
   Centre for Structural Biology
  Imperial College London


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[ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear all,

 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


 With fingers crossed ... .

  Gerard.

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[ccp4bb] postdoctoral position available

2013-10-30 Thread Federico Forneris
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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Matthew Franklin

Dear Gerard -

Here is one picture, but I'm afraid it's quite small and not good quality:

http://books.google.com/books?id=S9PPHvJ8otMCpg=PA28


I assume the camera is that object with the multiple circles in the left 
center of panel A?



Also, these folks seem to have one in their collection:

http://collectionsonline.nmsi.ac.uk/detail.php?t=objectstype=allf=s=arndt+wonacottrecord=0

No image that I could find online, but perhaps they would share one with 
you?



Hope that helps,
Matt



On 10/30/13 12:05 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

Dear all,

  Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

  This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


  With fingers crossed ... .

   Gerard.




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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
Is the prototype shown Figure 1 from 

U. W. Arndt, J. N. Champness, R. P. Phizackerley and A. J. Wonacott
A single-crystal oscillation camera for large unit cells
J. Appl. Cryst. (1973). 6, 457-463   
http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S0021889873009210  
http://journals.iucr.org/j/issues/1973/06/00/a10549/a10549.pdf  

what you are looking for?  
Regards,
Mitch

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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

Dear all,

 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


 With fingers crossed ... .

  Gerard.

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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Harry Powell
There is, of course, a photo in The Rotation Method in crystallography, by 
Arndt and Wonacott, which currently fetches over $245 on Amazon...

On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:05, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
 anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
 would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
 the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
 cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
 Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
 diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.
 
 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
 gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!
 
 
 With fingers crossed ... .
 
  Gerard.
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread D Bonsor
Bob Sweet has a powerpoint presentation but it took a long time to download the 
file 
(http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=27ved=0CEoQFjAGOBQurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcima.chem.usyd.edu.au%3A8080%2FMMSN%2Fevents%2FRAAW_Mar_2005%2FBob_Sweet_v2.pptei=_jRxUqvjGeqrsASg8YDwBAusg=AFQjCNFXctrZtshdnzaF-zyHmg6ELyu_twbvm=bv.55617003,d.cWccad=rja)

I have copied the camera and placed it here 
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/oceo44w5bngmdgh/Picture1.jpg) for easier access.
I hope it is the camera.


Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Frances C. Bernstein

A good source for used books is used.addall.com which
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2013, Harry Powell wrote:


There is, of course, a photo in The Rotation Method in crystallography, by 
Arndt and
Wonacott, which currently fetches over $245 on Amazon...
On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:05, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

  Dear all,

  Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
  anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
  would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
  the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
  cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
  Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
  diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

  This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
  gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


  With fingers crossed ... .

   Gerard.

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Re: [ccp4bb] bluetooth monitor

2013-10-30 Thread Harry Powell
Hi

Or you could look at using something like an Apple TV connected to a wall 
mounted flat screen monitor to stream via wifi (which may be better suited to 
fast data rates than bluetooth). Roku or Chromecast might be cheaper 
alternatives to the Apple TV, but I know almost nothing about them.

Wireless presentations from iPad to Apple TV work pretty well, and I'm sure 
there must be more economical solutions out there.

On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:20, mesters wrote:

 Alternatively, several projectors can do that which could be an alternative? 
 Monitors have a too high resolution and that could be a problem.
 
 - J .-
 
 
  Am 29.10.13 18:05, schrieb Brett, Thomas:
 Hi all:
 I was wondering if anyone had economical suggestions on a bluetooth LED or 
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 easily connect laptops and imacs to for structure display, doing tutorials 
 on building into maps, etc. 
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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Daniel,

 Thank you very much! That is the kind of picture I was hoping for.
Thanks to you too, Bob, for your Powerpoint presentation that contains other
interesting pictures of the major instruments that made MX possible.

 Finally, many thanks to the authors of all the other amazingly prompt
replies to my message. I hope everyone will enjoy seeing the picture in
Daniel's dropbox. Memories of the 3-day week in the UK and of Watergate in
the US might come wafting through some people's minds ... .


 With best wishes,
 
  Gerard.

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 04:49:01PM +, D Bonsor wrote:
 Bob Sweet has a powerpoint presentation but it took a long time to download 
 the file 
 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=27ved=0CEoQFjAGOBQurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcima.chem.usyd.edu.au%3A8080%2FMMSN%2Fevents%2FRAAW_Mar_2005%2FBob_Sweet_v2.pptei=_jRxUqvjGeqrsASg8YDwBAusg=AFQjCNFXctrZtshdnzaF-zyHmg6ELyu_twbvm=bv.55617003,d.cWccad=rja)
 
 I have copied the camera and placed it here 
 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/oceo44w5bngmdgh/Picture1.jpg) for easier access.
 I hope it is the camera.


Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-10-30 Thread Alastair Fyfe
Elise - after looking into a related problem for some time,  I've come 
to the conclusion it's a bit harder than  it seems. Two obstacles:
(1) there is no good coordinate system for partitioning the overall 
solvent volume (fraction of unit cell not occupied by protein density)  
into suitable neighborhoods
(2) experimental support for water placement in deposited structures 
varies from sound to wishful thinking - with no single useful 
credibility metric ( a helpful review :

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8081736
)

The path I've gone down for (1) is to : (a) compute the distance field 
from the molecular surface and skeletonize it. This will give you the 
outer boundary of surrounding solvent (eg if you blew up the molecular 
surfaces like balloons, the surface defined by where the balloons 
touch); (b) carve up the resulting  volume as appropriate, eg radial 
shells from the molecular surface for outer regions modeled as bulk 
solvent, atom-specific expansion of the molecular surface for regions 
occupied by modeled waters/ions.


This is quite a bit of work (or so it seemed) but it enables you to 
segment the overall solvent volume into regions of interest and then 
calculate density of ordered waters/ions across structures (bearing in 
mind that much of modeled solvent may not be real). For sorting out  
non-bonding contacts there is a very nice and fast class, MAtomNonBond, 
in Kevin Cowtan's clipper library. For the distance field and 
skeletonization/medial-axis computation you might want to look at 
fast-marching implementations.

Good luck!
Alastair
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On 10/29/2013 04:43 PM, Elise B wrote:
Hello, I am working on a project with several (separate) structures of 
the same protein. I would like to be able to compare the solvent 
molecules between the structures, and it would be best if the waters 
that exist in roughly the same position in each PDB share the same 
residue number. Basically, I want to compare solvent molecule 
coordinates and assign similar locations the same name in each 
structure. What would be the best strategy for re-numbering the water 
molecules such that those with similar coordinates in all the structures 
receive the same residue number? I'd appreciate any suggestions. Elise 
Blankenship




[ccp4bb] Re; A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Mark A Saper
Gerard,

I have the original rotation method book in my office, and it might have the 
picture that you are looking for.  I will check in the morning.

-Mark
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:00 PM, CCP4BB automatic digest system 
lists...@jiscmail.ac.uk wrote:

 A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?


[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] Add C-terminal amide - solved

2013-10-30 Thread Bernhard Lechtenberg
Thanks for the help, the issue is solved. Here a short summary in case anybody 
else has the same problem:

1) Add pointer atom in Coot NH2 and create link to C-terminal residue
2) create cif file with correct link description
3) modify LINK record in PDB to correct residues/ link name
4) refine in Refmac with cif as LIB in

Thanks especially to Maike and Augen

Bernhard


Begin forwarded message:

From: Bernhard Lechtenberg 
blechtenb...@sanfordburnham.orgmailto:blechtenb...@sanfordburnham.org
Subject: [ccp4bb] Add C-terminal amide
Date: October 29, 2013 6:32:37 PM PDT
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Reply-To: Bernhard Lechtenberg 
blechtenb...@sanfordburnham.orgmailto:blechtenb...@sanfordburnham.org

Hello experts,

I am currently working on a structure of a protein-peptide complex. The peptide 
was synthesized with a C-terminal amide group. What is the best way to add this 
in Coot and refine in Refmac? I did a search on the web but only found a 
protocol for CNS not for Coot/Refmac.

Thanks for the help.

Bernhard

Bernhard C. Lechtenberg, PhD
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