Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
Hi Bill Sorry, I was tired! Yes, I agree entirely. Trying to maintain one's own working TclTk from source is not straightforward, and best avoided. CCP4 know this and are working hard to remedy the situation! On 17 Aug 2011, at 23:31, William Scott wrote: On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Harry wrote: Hi Bill I don't think this includes BLT, does it? No. That was what I was trying to say (apparently not very well, sorry!): On 17 Aug 2011, at 22:33, William Scott wrote: if CCP4 could free itself of this dependency... …then it could make use of the no-BLT version of tcl/tk provided with OS X 10.6 and 10.7. Harry -- Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre, Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH
Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
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Hi Phil,
'wish' works on Debian (stable upwards) (and therefore probably also on
Ubuntu) where blt is hidden in a library, and it works greatly - I used
to do the opposite, i.e. changing bltwish into wish but e.g. loggraph
did not work properly that way.
Best wishes, Tim
On 08/17/2011 11:22 AM, Phil Evans wrote:
In previous CCP4 releases CCP4/ccp4i/bin/loggraph used bltwish
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/bltwish $0 -- ${1+$@}
In 6.2.0 this has mutated to
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/wish $0 -- ${1+$@}
which doesn't work on our systems, see error below
I've fixed it by changing back to the previous exec bltwish, but does this
new version work for other people? Should it work for me, and with what
version of TCL?
(I look forward to replacing loggraph!)
Phil
Error in startup script: can't find package BLT
while executing
package require BLT
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph.tcl
line 47)
invoked from within
source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) bin loggraph.tcl]
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph line 5)
- --
- --
Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen
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Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
It doesn't seem to work out of the box on Centos5.6, nor on Scientific Linux 6.
On SL6 I think we had to install yet another TCLTK from somewhere (can't
remember) to get BLT, and with that one using wish does work
Roll on the loggraph replacement!
Phil
On 17 Aug 2011, at 10:38, Tim Gruene wrote:
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Hi Phil,
'wish' works on Debian (stable upwards) (and therefore probably also on
Ubuntu) where blt is hidden in a library, and it works greatly - I used
to do the opposite, i.e. changing bltwish into wish but e.g. loggraph
did not work properly that way.
Best wishes, Tim
On 08/17/2011 11:22 AM, Phil Evans wrote:
In previous CCP4 releases CCP4/ccp4i/bin/loggraph used bltwish
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/bltwish $0 -- ${1+$@}
In 6.2.0 this has mutated to
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/wish $0 -- ${1+$@}
which doesn't work on our systems, see error below
I've fixed it by changing back to the previous exec bltwish, but does this
new version work for other people? Should it work for me, and with what
version of TCL?
(I look forward to replacing loggraph!)
Phil
Error in startup script: can't find package BLT
while executing
package require BLT
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph.tcl
line 47)
invoked from within
source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) bin loggraph.tcl]
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph line 5)
- --
- --
Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen
GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
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Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
On 17/08/11 10:49, Phil Evans wrote: Roll on the loggraph replacement! Next month ?
Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
Dear Phil,
for me (RHEL 6.1, 64-bit, ccp4 6.2), loggraph works with wish but
requires bltwish. The command is
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/wish $0 -- ${1+$@}
but if I set
export CCP4I_TCLTK=/sharedSoftware/ActiveTcl-8.5/bin
I get the same error that you report because ActiveTcl-8.5 doesn't
contain bltwish, which is required in loggraph.tcl. When I set
export CCP4I_TCLTK=$CCP4_MASTER/tcltk++/bin
I don't get the error.
Andreas
On 17/08/2011 10:22, Phil Evans wrote:
In previous CCP4 releases CCP4/ccp4i/bin/loggraph used bltwish
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/bltwish $0 -- ${1+$@}
In 6.2.0 this has mutated to
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/wish $0 -- ${1+$@}
which doesn't work on our systems, see error below
I've fixed it by changing back to the previous exec bltwish, but does this new
version work for other people? Should it work for me, and with what version of
TCL?
(I look forward to replacing loggraph!)
Phil
Error in startup script: can't find package BLT
while executing
package require BLT
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph.tcl line
47)
invoked from within
source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) bin loggraph.tcl]
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph line 5)
--
Andreas Förster, Research Associate
Paul Freemont Xiaodong Zhang Labs
Department of Biochemistry, Imperial College London
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk
Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
Yeah, it was a totally delightful interaction. So much for the Ubuntu spread
the love of humanity theme.
They have successfully migrated from figure 3 to figure 2:
http://bandcamp.tv/linux-demotivators/
As for BLT, my sense (being the unfortunate maintainer for it on fink) is that
it is dead in the water, and if CCP4 could free itself of this dependency,
those who insist upon using the GUI instead of the infinitely simpler and more
elegant command-line interface could use the OS X native port of tcl/tk.
--Bill
On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Edward A. Berry wrote:
Seems to me the CCP4 change is exactly in line with the developers'
response to wgscott's bug report at:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blt/+bug/19148
You have to have the BLT package, whether you shell bltwish or wish.
Modern BLT package doesn't contain bltwish, because
not a bug. It doesn't make sense to provide a separate shell for each Tcl
Extension. . . .
just use wish for your scripts:
#!/usr/bin/wish
package require BLT
[...]
Phil Evans wrote:
In previous CCP4 releases CCP4/ccp4i/bin/loggraph used bltwish
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/bltwish $0 -- ${1+$@}
In 6.2.0 this has mutated to
exec $CCP4I_TCLTK/wish $0 -- ${1+$@}
which doesn't work on our systems, see error below
I've fixed it by changing back to the previous exec bltwish, but does this
new version work for other people? Should it work for me, and with what
version of TCL?
(I look forward to replacing loggraph!)
Phil
Error in startup script: can't find package BLT
while executing
package require BLT
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph.tcl
line 47)
invoked from within
source [file join $env(CCP4I_TOP) bin loggraph.tcl]
(file /public/xtal/CCP4/ccp4-64/ccp4-6.2.0-c5/ccp4i/bin/loggraph line 5)
William G. Scott
Contact info:
http://chemistry.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/
Re: [ccp4bb] BLT wish
On Aug 17, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Harry wrote: Hi Bill I don't think this includes BLT, does it? No. That was what I was trying to say (apparently not very well, sorry!): On 17 Aug 2011, at 22:33, William Scott wrote: if CCP4 could free itself of this dependency... …then it could make use of the no-BLT version of tcl/tk provided with OS X 10.6 and 10.7.
