Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-09 Thread Peter Keller

Hi,

On Thu, 8 May 2008, James Stroud wrote:


On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:


so even temporarily putting a library where it doesn't belong



Actually, this is what /usr/lib is for (except for the doesn't part). 
According to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 4.7 regarding the general 
requirements and limitations of files placed in /usr/lib: /usr/lib includes 
object files, libraries, and internal binaries that are not intended to be 
executed directly by users or shell scripts.


If it fulfills the definition and is not expressly forbidden, then its 
reasonable to assume its allowed.


The issue here is not _what_ certain directories contain, but _how_ the 
contents of those directories are maintained, and the FHS has nothing to say 
about that. In most distributions, /usr/lib will be one of the directories 
maintained by the system's software packaging mechanism (zypper, rug, dpkg, or 
whatever). You would be well advised not to put files willy-nilly into it. I 
can expand on this if anyone who doesn't already know is interested.


Whenever someone finds themselves wanting to put a file in a directory like 
/usr/bin, /usr/lib, /sbin etc., there will almost always be a better way, as 
indeed this thread has shown.


Regards,
Peter.


Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-08 Thread James Stroud

On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:


so even temporarily putting a library where it doesn't belong



Actually, this is what /usr/lib is for (except for the doesn't  
part). According to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard 4.7 regarding  
the general requirements and limitations of files placed in /usr/lib:  
/usr/lib includes object files, libraries, and internal binaries that  
are not intended to be executed directly by users or shell scripts.


If it fulfills the definition and is not expressly forbidden, then its  
reasonable to assume its allowed.


James

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Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread William Scott

mosflm is an incredibly great program, not to mention free as in beer...




On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:


 my frustration at HKL2000 not working


Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Chris,

 Bill just beat me to writing the same. I would mention XDS as well.
 
 
 With best wishes,
 
  Gerard.

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On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:17:07PM -0700, William Scott wrote:
 mosflm is an incredibly great program, not to mention free as in beer...
 
 
 
 
 On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:
 
  my frustration at HKL2000 not working

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Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Waddling
Agreed, but it's nice to have options, as I'm sure we've all experienced,
one program (and sometimes it's HKL2000) just seems to work better than
another with some data.  But yes, being that this is the CCP4BB, mosflm does
indeed rock.

Thanks,

Chris



 From: Gerard Bricogne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:23:34 +0100
 To: Chris Waddling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 and gcc4 - redux
 
 Dear Chris,
 
  Bill just beat me to writing the same. I would mention XDS as well.
  
  
  With best wishes,
  
   Gerard.
 
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 On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 03:17:07PM -0700, William Scott wrote:
 mosflm is an incredibly great program, not to mention free as in beer...
 
 
 
 
 On May 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris Waddling wrote:
 
 my frustration at HKL2000 not working
 
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