Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Suspect most people would be looking for painless though I would guess that should be a program to tell you the right crystallization conditions... On 3 May 2013 00:15, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Nevertheless? JPK On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: Some of my undergraduate students need the CCP4 program feckless. :) ___ Roger S. Rowlett Gordon Dorothy Kline Professor Department of Chemistry Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 tel: (315)-228-7245 ofc: (315)-228-7395 fax: (315)-228-7935 email: rrowl...@colgate.edu On 5/2/2013 12:22 PM, Eric Williams wrote: I've always thought gormless is a woefully underused word. Eric On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es wrote: i.e. the next program will be Graceless or Feckless? On 2 May 2013, at 12:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller, PhD Looger Lab/HHMI Janelia Farms Research Campus 19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147 email: kell...@janelia.hhmi.org ***
[ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Occasionally given to losing extremities. is that a good thing? Andreas On 02/05/2013 11:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto.
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Entirely appropriate for data processing! and Aimless is clearly some sort of optimisation program :-) Phil On 2 May 2013, at 11:31, Andreas Förster docandr...@gmail.com wrote: Occasionally given to losing extremities. is that a good thing? Andreas On 02/05/2013 11:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto.
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
I think Phil saw something nasty in the woodshed ... HTH Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roberto Battistutta Sent: 02 May 2013 11:07 To: ccp4bb Subject: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
I thought it was just a logical pun progression from pointless to aimless. Perhaps the next program will be useless? DISCLAIMER: This is intended as a JOKE... I FULLY appreciate and use the wonderful programs generated by Phil. Just in case I unintentionally start yet another CCP4bb flame-a-thon. --- Dr Antony W Oliver Senior Research Fellow CR-UK DNA Repair Enzymes Group Genome Damage and Stability Centre Science Park Road University of Sussex Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9RQ email: antony.oli...@sussex.ac.uk tel (office): +44 (0)1273 678349 tel (lab): +44 (0)1273 677512 On May 2, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Martyn Winn wrote: I think Phil saw something nasty in the woodshed ... HTH Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roberto Battistutta Sent: 02 May 2013 11:07 To: ccp4bb Subject: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Martyn Winn martyn.w...@stfc.ac.uk writes: I think Phil saw something nasty in the woodshed ... HTH Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roberto Battistutta Sent: 02 May 2013 11:07 To: ccp4bb Subject: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. We mustn’t forget, we already have a name, due to Zbigniew Dauter, for a future combination of pointless + aimless—“hopeless”. -- Ian ◎
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Occasionally given to losing extremities. is that a good thing? Yes. Outlier removal BR Andreas On 02/05/2013 11:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto.
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
That's right. Useless always refers to us users. :) On 5/2/13 5:45 AM, Ian Clifton ian.clif...@chem.ox.ac.uk wrote: Martyn Winn martyn.w...@stfc.ac.uk writes: I think Phil saw something nasty in the woodshed ... HTH Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roberto Battistutta Sent: 02 May 2013 11:07 To: ccp4bb Subject: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. We mustn’t forget, we already have a name, due to Zbigniew Dauter, for a future combination of pointless + aimless―“hopeless”. -- Ian ◎
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Oh no, that software is still in works and it is called clueless... Cheers, N. - Original Message - From: Christopher Colbert christopher.colb...@ndsu.edu To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:48:50 AM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless That's right. Useless always refers to us users. :) On 5/2/13 5:45 AM, Ian Clifton ian.clif...@chem.ox.ac.uk wrote: Martyn Winn martyn.w...@stfc.ac.uk writes: I think Phil saw something nasty in the woodshed ... HTH Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Roberto Battistutta Sent: 02 May 2013 11:07 To: ccp4bb Subject: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. We mustn’t forget, we already have a name, due to Zbigniew Dauter, for a future combination of pointless + aimless—“hopeless”. -- Ian ◎
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
i.e. the next program will be Graceless or Feckless? On 2 May 2013, at 12:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
I've always thought gormless is a woefully underused word. Eric On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.eswrote: i.e. the next program will be Graceless or Feckless? On 2 May 2013, at 12:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Moreorless? Dolores? JPK On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Eric Williams ericwilli...@pobox.comwrote: I've always thought gormless is a woefully underused word. Eric On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.eswrote: i.e. the next program will be Graceless or Feckless? On 2 May 2013, at 12:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller, PhD Looger Lab/HHMI Janelia Farms Research Campus 19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147 email: kell...@janelia.hhmi.org ***
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Some of my undergraduate students need the CCP4 program feckless. :) ___ Roger S. Rowlett Gordon Dorothy Kline Professor Department of Chemistry Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 tel: (315)-228-7245 ofc: (315)-228-7395 fax: (315)-228-7935 email: rrowl...@colgate.edu On 5/2/2013 12:22 PM, Eric Williams wrote: I've always thought gormless is a woefully underused word. Eric On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es mailto:mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es wrote: i.e. the next program will be Graceless or Feckless? On 2 May 2013, at 12:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it mailto:roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 tel:%2B39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 tel:%2B39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it mailto:roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ http://www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 tel:%2B39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 tel:%2B39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it http://www.vimm.it
Re: [ccp4bb] Why the name aimless
Nevertheless? JPK On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: Some of my undergraduate students need the CCP4 program feckless. :) ___ Roger S. Rowlett Gordon Dorothy Kline Professor Department of Chemistry Colgate University 13 Oak Drive Hamilton, NY 13346 tel: (315)-228-7245 ofc: (315)-228-7395 fax: (315)-228-7935 email: rrowl...@colgate.edu On 5/2/2013 12:22 PM, Eric Williams wrote: I've always thought gormless is a woefully underused word. Eric On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mark van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.eswrote: i.e. the next program will be Graceless or Feckless? On 2 May 2013, at 12:10, Phil Evans wrote: Reference: Gibbons, S. (1932) Cold Comfort Farm, Longmans, London On 2 May 2013, at 11:07, Roberto Battistutta roberto.battistu...@unipd.it wrote: Hi everyone, just a curiosity, why the name aimless for the recent data reduction and analysis program in CCP4? You know, my students are curious ... Thank you, Roberto. Roberto Battistutta Associate Professor Department of Chemistry University of Padua via Marzolo 1, 35131 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.827.5262 fax. +39.049.827.5829 roberto.battistu...@unipd.it www.chimica.unipd.it/roberto.battistutta/ VIMM (Venetian Institute of Molecular Medicine) via Orus 2, 35129 Padova - ITALY tel. +39.049.7923.236 fax +39.049.7923.250 www.vimm.it -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller, PhD Looger Lab/HHMI Janelia Farms Research Campus 19700 Helix Dr, Ashburn, VA 20147 email: kell...@janelia.hhmi.org ***
