Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Anastassis Perrakis

Hi -

I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the  
CCP4 distribution?


http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

A.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:


Hello,

When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory  
window, I get the following error:


ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/directories.def

Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a  
MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,  
except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in  
refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.  
When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so  
according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.  
I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any  
information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?


Thank You,
Kurt Padilla

on the behalf of:

Kathleen Frey
Amy Anderson Lab
Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
University of Connecticut


Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Kurt Padilla
William,

Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few days.
Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.

Anastassis,

I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was unable to get
the program to run even though Installer said that the installation was
successful. I don't remember the details, but the installation did not
produce an executable .app file and typing ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch
the program either.

Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi -

 I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
 CCP4 distribution?

 http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

 A.

 On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:

  Hello,
 
  When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
  window, I get the following error:
 
  ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/directories.def
 
  Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
  MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
  except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
  refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
  When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
  according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
  I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
  information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?
 
  Thank You,
  Kurt Padilla
 
  on the behalf of:
 
  Kathleen Frey
  Amy Anderson Lab
  Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
  University of Connecticut




Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread William Scott
In both cases, you have to make sure you are setting up the  
environment appropriately for ccp4, unique to the unix shell you are  
using.


In the case of the ccp4 package you compile with the aid of the fink  
script, at the start of a shell session, you, or your dot file, needs  
to issue


source /sw/bin/init.sh

or

source /sw/bin/init.csh

for bash and zsh or tcsh, respectively.  That in turn sources the  
appropriate environment setup file in $CCP4/include.


On Mar 25, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Kurt Padilla wrote:


William,

Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few  
days.

Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.

Anastassis,

I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was  
unable to get
the program to run even though Installer said that the installation  
was

successful. I don't remember the details, but the installation did not
produce an executable .app file and typing ccp4i into Terminal  
didn't launch

the program either.

Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


wrote:


Hi -

I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
CCP4 distribution?

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

A.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:


Hello,

When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
window, I get the following error:

ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/ 
directories.def


Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

Thank You,
Kurt Padilla

on the behalf of:

Kathleen Frey
Amy Anderson Lab
Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
University of Connecticut





Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Dirk Kostrewa

Hi Kurt,

the CCP4 program package for Mac OS X from the CCP4 download site  
installs the CCP4 suite under /usr/local or any other path that you  
provide during installation. There is no such thing as a CCP4.app that  
can be started by clicking on it. Instead, you have to create in a  
Terminal.app a .bashrc file in your home directory (/Users/name  
where name is your user name) and add a line to it that calls the  
ccp4i setup script, like one of the following lines (check the correct  
path):


source /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2/bin/ccp4.setup-sh

or

. /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2/bin/ccp4.setup-sh

After that, this setup script is executed whenever you open a new  
Terminal.app. You can verify the existence of any CCP4 program by  
typing, for instance, which fft. The answer should give you the full  
path of the CCP4 fft program. If you want to use the ccp4i GUI, you  
should install the tcltkblt.pck for Mac OS X from the CCP4 download  
site under its default installation path.


This is more the UNIX way of installation than the Mac way.

I hope that helps,

best regards,

Dirk.

Am 25.03.2008 um 15:47 schrieb Kurt Padilla:


William,

Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few  
days. Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.


Anastassis,

I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was  
unable to get the program to run even though Installer said that the  
installation was successful. I don't remember the details, but the  
installation did not produce an executable .app file and typing  
ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch the program either.


Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

Hi -

I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
CCP4 distribution?

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

A.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:

 Hello,

 When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
 window, I get the following error:

 ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/ 
directories.def


 Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
 MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
 except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
 refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
 When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
 according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
 I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
 information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

 Thank You,
 Kurt Padilla

 on the behalf of:

 Kathleen Frey
 Amy Anderson Lab
 Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
 University of Connecticut





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Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Anastassis Perrakis

Hi -

You need to add to your .chrc, or type in an ***X11*** window (and  
not in the Terminal).


source /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2//bin/ccp4.setup-csh

then it will work.

it does not really install a real application in the OSX sense.

A.

On Mar 25, 2008, at 15:47, Kurt Padilla wrote:


William,

Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few  
days. Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.


Anastassis,

I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was  
unable to get the program to run even though Installer said that  
the installation was successful. I don't remember the details, but  
the installation did not produce an executable .app file and typing  
ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch the program either.


Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi -

I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
CCP4 distribution?

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

A.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:

 Hello,

 When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
 window, I get the following error:

 ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/ 
directories.def


 Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
 MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
 except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
 refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
 When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
 according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
 I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
 information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

 Thank You,
 Kurt Padilla

 on the behalf of:

 Kathleen Frey
 Amy Anderson Lab
 Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
 University of Connecticut






Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Sue Roberts
I also thought the problem was using the Terminal window and not the  
X11 window, but, interestingly, typing ccp4i in a Terminal window,  
not an X11 window does work.

X11 does need to be installed and running, -- that could be the problem.

(Caveat, this is in 10.4, not 10.5 - I have 10.5 but haven't  
installed it yet because of the coot discussions)


Sue

On Mar 25, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Anastassis Perrakis wrote:

Hi -

You need to add to your .chrc, or type in an ***X11*** window (and  
not in the Terminal).


source /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2//bin/ccp4.setup-csh

then it will work.

it does not really install a real application in the OSX sense.

A.

On Mar 25, 2008, at 15:47, Kurt Padilla wrote:


William,

Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few  
days. Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.


Anastassis,

I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was  
unable to get the program to run even though Installer said that  
the installation was successful. I don't remember the details, but  
the installation did not produce an executable .app file and  
typing ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch the program either.


Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi -

I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
CCP4 distribution?

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

A.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:

 Hello,

 When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
 window, I get the following error:

 ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/ 
directories.def


 Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
 MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
 except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
 refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
 When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
 according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
 I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
 information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

 Thank You,
 Kurt Padilla

 on the behalf of:

 Kathleen Frey
 Amy Anderson Lab
 Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
 University of Connecticut






Sue Roberts
Biochemistry  Biophysics
University of Arizona

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Kurt Padilla
Sue,

Currently, when I type in ccp4i into Terminal, X11 launches and then CCP4
does too. I am running OS X 10.5 with a fink installation.

Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sue Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I also thought the problem was using the Terminal window and not the
 X11 window, but, interestingly, typing ccp4i in a Terminal window,
 not an X11 window does work.
 X11 does need to be installed and running, -- that could be the problem.

 (Caveat, this is in 10.4, not 10.5 - I have 10.5 but haven't
 installed it yet because of the coot discussions)

 Sue

 On Mar 25, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Anastassis Perrakis wrote:
  Hi -
 
  You need to add to your .chrc, or type in an ***X11*** window (and
  not in the Terminal).
 
  source /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2//bin/ccp4.setup-csh
 
  then it will work.
 
  it does not really install a real application in the OSX sense.
 
A.
 
  On Mar 25, 2008, at 15:47, Kurt Padilla wrote:
 
  William,
 
  Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few
  days. Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.
 
  Anastassis,
 
  I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was
  unable to get the program to run even though Installer said that
  the installation was successful. I don't remember the details, but
  the installation did not produce an executable .app file and
  typing ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch the program either.
 
  Kurt
 
  On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi -
 
  I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
  CCP4 distribution?
 
  http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/
 
  A.
 
  On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
   window, I get the following error:
  
   ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/
  directories.def
  
   Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
   MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
   except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
   refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
   When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
   according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
   I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
   information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?
  
   Thank You,
   Kurt Padilla
  
   on the behalf of:
  
   Kathleen Frey
   Amy Anderson Lab
   Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
   University of Connecticut
 
 
 

 Sue Roberts
 Biochemistry  Biophysics
 University of Arizona

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread Serge Cohen

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This is a 10.5 feature : when an application tries to connect to the  
X11 window server, X11 is automatically launched (unless it was  
already running). Hence in Leopard you can call ccp4i from within  
Terminal.app without much more to setup than the regualr CCP4 setup.


Serge.


Le 25 mars 08 à 17:32, Kurt Padilla a écrit :

Sue,

Currently, when I type in ccp4i into Terminal, X11 launches and then  
CCP4 does too. I am running OS X 10.5 with a fink installation.


Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sue Roberts  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I also thought the problem was using the Terminal window and not the
X11 window, but, interestingly, typing ccp4i in a Terminal window,
not an X11 window does work.
X11 does need to be installed and running, -- that could be the  
problem.


(Caveat, this is in 10.4, not 10.5 - I have 10.5 but haven't
installed it yet because of the coot discussions)

Sue

On Mar 25, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Anastassis Perrakis wrote:
 Hi -

 You need to add to your .chrc, or type in an ***X11*** window (and
 not in the Terminal).

 source /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2//bin/ccp4.setup-csh

 then it will work.

 it does not really install a real application in the OSX sense.

   A.

 On Mar 25, 2008, at 15:47, Kurt Padilla wrote:

 William,

 Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few
 days. Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.

 Anastassis,

 I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was
 unable to get the program to run even though Installer said that
 the installation was successful. I don't remember the details, but
 the installation did not produce an executable .app file and
 typing ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch the program either.

 Kurt

 On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi -

 I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
 CCP4 distribution?

 http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

 A.

 On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:

  Hello,
 
  When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
  window, I get the following error:
 
  ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/
 directories.def
 
  Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
  MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
  except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
  refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
  When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do  
so
  according to some rule that folder names can't begin with  
periods.

  I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
  information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?
 
  Thank You,
  Kurt Padilla
 
  on the behalf of:
 
  Kathleen Frey
  Amy Anderson Lab
  Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
  University of Connecticut




Sue Roberts
Biochemistry  Biophysics
University of Arizona

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-25 Thread William Scott
That is exactly how it is supposed to work with 10.5.  No need to use  
an xterm, and it sets the DISPLAY variable automatically.  I assume  
you have write-permissions in the directory it is trying to make  
the .CCP4 directory?



On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Kurt Padilla wrote:


Sue,

Currently, when I type in ccp4i into Terminal, X11 launches and then  
CCP4

does too. I am running OS X 10.5 with a fink installation.

Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sue Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


I also thought the problem was using the Terminal window and not the
X11 window, but, interestingly, typing ccp4i in a Terminal window,
not an X11 window does work.
X11 does need to be installed and running, -- that could be the  
problem.


(Caveat, this is in 10.4, not 10.5 - I have 10.5 but haven't
installed it yet because of the coot discussions)

Sue

On Mar 25, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Anastassis Perrakis wrote:

Hi -

You need to add to your .chrc, or type in an ***X11*** window (and
not in the Terminal).

source /usr/local/ccp4-6.0.2//bin/ccp4.setup-csh

then it will work.

it does not really install a real application in the OSX sense.

 A.

On Mar 25, 2008, at 15:47, Kurt Padilla wrote:


William,

Thanks for your advice. I intend to give it a try in the next few
days. Hopefully, I will have some positive results to share.

Anastassis,

I tried using the binary from the link you provided, but I was
unable to get the program to run even though Installer said that
the installation was successful. I don't remember the details, but
the installation did not produce an executable .app file and
typing ccp4i into Terminal didn't launch the program either.

Kurt

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Anastassis Perrakis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi -

I am sure that its not a fink problem really, but why not try the
CCP4 distribution?

http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/download/

A.

On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:34, Kurt Padilla wrote:


Hello,

When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory
window, I get the following error:

ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/

directories.def


Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a
MacBook Pro running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs,
except in one mysterious instance today, but only to hang in
refmac. I checked, but there is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'.
When I tried to create one myself, OS X wouldn't allow me to do so
according to some rule that folder names can't begin with periods.
I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X. Any
information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

Thank You,
Kurt Padilla

on the behalf of:

Kathleen Frey
Amy Anderson Lab
Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
University of Connecticut







Sue Roberts
Biochemistry  Biophysics
University of Arizona

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-21 Thread Kurt Padilla
Hello,

When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory window, I get
the following error:

ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/directories.def


Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a MacBook Pro
running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs, except in one
mysterious instance today, but only to hang in refmac. I checked, but there
is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'. When I tried to create one myself, OS X
wouldn't allow me to do so according to some rule that folder names can't
begin with periods. I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy on OS X.
Any information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

Thank You,
Kurt Padilla

on the behalf of:

Kathleen Frey
Amy Anderson Lab
Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
University of Connecticut


Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i - Directories Project Directory Error

2008-03-21 Thread William Scott
If I move my .CCP4 directory out of the way and start ccp4i, it makes  
a new one:


zsh-% ccp4i
22:14:16 Creating a home directory for CCP4 at /Users/wgscott/.CCP4
22:14:16 Creating CCP4i shadow area at /Users/wgscott/.CCP4/CCP4I_TOP
22:14:16 Creating shadow subdirectory /Users/wgscott/.CCP4/CCP4I_TOP/bin
22:14:16 Creating shadow subdirectory /Users/wgscott/.CCP4/CCP4I_TOP/src
22:14:16 Creating shadow subdirectory /Users/wgscott/.CCP4/CCP4I_TOP/etc


Are you sure it isn't there?

What do you get for

ls ~/.CCP4


By the way the unix command for making a directory like this is

mkdir ~/.CCP4

but the GUI appears to do that automatically.

Maybe you are trying to make the thing with the Finder (Apple's file  
browser)? Best to avoid it for anything unixy.  It is a carbon-based  
relic of pre-osx days.



On Mar 21, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Kurt Padilla wrote:


Hello,

When I click on 'Apply' in the Directories  Project Directory  
window, I get

the following error:

ERROR saving parameters to file /Users/Kat/.CCP4/unix/directories.def




Has anyone else encountered this error? I installed CCP4 on a  
MacBook Pro

running Leopard using fink. This error always occurs, except in one
mysterious instance today, but only to hang in refmac. I checked,  
but there
is no .CCP4 folder in '/Users/Kat/'. When I tried to create one  
myself, OS X
wouldn't allow me to do so according to some rule that folder names  
can't
begin with periods. I am getting the impression that CCP4 is buggy  
on OS X.

Any information on avoiding these problems and getting CCP4 to work?

Thank You,
Kurt Padilla

on the behalf of:

Kathleen Frey
Amy Anderson Lab
Dept. of Pharmaceutical Science
University of Connecticut