Re: [ccp4bb] weekend puzzle

2013-09-17 Thread Andreas Förster
Thanks to all who engaged with my little puzzle.  The weekend is over 
and I'm not exactly closer to fitting the right pieces into the density. 
 Benzamidine was a good suggestion for the first bit of density. 
However, I didn't use that inhibitor during purification.  The second 
set of blobs doesn't sit on a twofold.  It might just remain undefined.


Thanks anyway for all replies.



Andreas




On 13/09/13 17:50, Andreas Förster wrote:

Dear all,

a structure I'm refining is enjoying a free R factor of 18 but still
suffers from mystery density that nothing in the crystallization
condition could explain.  I can't explain it either.  Maybe you like
to venture some guesses?

The missing ligand is derivatized benzoic acid, nitrobenzene or
benzamide.  I didn't find anything obvious in the PDB.  Any suggestions?
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle1.png

The second ligand is a longer shot, two blobs connected by a
substantial bridge.  The two views are slightly rotated, and a bit of
peptide is shown to give an idea of the size.
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle2.png
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle3.png

Happy guessing!




--
  Andreas Förster
 Crystallization and Xray Facility Manager
   Centre for Structural Biology
  Imperial College London


[ccp4bb] weekend puzzle

2013-09-13 Thread Andreas Förster

Dear all,

a structure I'm refining is enjoying a free R factor of 18 but still 
suffers from mystery density that nothing in the crystallization 
condition could explain.  I can't explain it either.  Maybe you like to 
venture some guesses?


The missing ligand is derivatized benzoic acid, nitrobenzene or 
benzamide.  I didn't find anything obvious in the PDB.  Any suggestions?

http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle1.png

The second ligand is a longer shot, two blobs connected by a substantial 
bridge.  The two views are slightly rotated, and a bit of peptide is 
shown to give an idea of the size.

http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle2.png
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle3.png

Happy guessing!


Andreas




--
  Andreas Förster
 Crystallization and Xray Facility Manager
   Centre for Structural Biology
  Imperial College London


Re: [ccp4bb] weekend puzzle

2013-09-13 Thread Paul Emsley

On 13/09/13 17:50, Andreas Förster wrote:

Dear all,

a structure I'm refining is enjoying a free R factor of 18 but still 
suffers from mystery density that nothing in the crystallization 
condition could explain.  I can't explain it either.  Maybe you like 
to venture some guesses?


The missing ligand is derivatized benzoic acid, nitrobenzene or 
benzamide.  I didn't find anything obvious in the PDB.  Any suggestions?

http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle1.png

The second ligand is a longer shot, two blobs connected by a 
substantial bridge.  The two views are slightly rotated, and a bit of 
peptide is shown to give an idea of the size.

http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle2.png
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk/images/puzzle/puzzle3.png

Happy guessing!


This is what I can detect from your images...

it's not really a nugget, is it? It's more of a splat.

(it *is* Friday afternoon, that's my excuse...:))

Paul.

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