[CentOS-es] automatizar acceso a servicios

2007-09-12 Thread Martin Llamas N.
Estimados amigos, en el centro donde trabajo actualmente estamos en
procura de habilitar una serie de servicios que faciliten las labores
de todos los integrantes (existe un alto grado de movilidad de
integrantes), en cuanto a documentacion y seguimiento de proyectos que
cada uno realiza, es  asi que tenemos la idea de proveer los
siguientes servicios para cada integrante.

* acceso a un wiki (posibilidades mediawiki, dokuwiki, moinmoin)
* acceso a un trac+snv
* blog
* acceso a un ftp

la idea es que al crear un usuario en el sistema de forma automatica
se habiliten es tos servicios para cada usuario, considerando lo
siguiente:

* acceso por web
* wiki.usuario.dominio.com
* trac.usuario.dominio.com
* blog.usuario.dominio.com
* ftp.usuario.dominio.com
Para esto hemos pensado realizar algunos scripts que puedan
automatizar, por ejemplo copiar los archivos de una instalacion base a
cada directorio de usuario, pero hemos encontrado algunas dificultades
en:

* Como hacer que el dominio se actualice de forma automatica
* Como hacer que las configuraciones de apache se modifiquen automaticamente

ya que para ambos casos es preciso editar los archivos de
configuracion de los servicios, a lo mejor no es la forma correcta de
encarar esto, es por eso que recurro a uds. para que me puedan guiar o
dar algunas sugerencias de como realizar esto.

JHO
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[CentOS-es] manejador de proyectos

2007-09-12 Thread Jhamil Mercado
Hola, existe la posibilidad de instalar localmente alguna aplicacion
de manejo de proyectos asi como sourceforge, o exite alguna otra de
menor tamaño apto para manejo de proyectos software a nivel
universitario.
Tenemos pensado instalar una herramienta como la mencionada para
albergar todos los proyectos desarrollados por los estudiantes de mi
universidad.


atte


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Re: [CentOS-es] manejador de proyectos

2007-09-12 Thread Esteban Saavedra L.
Podrias probar gforge.
Por otrolado podrias ver el tema de trac+svn, trac+mercurial,...

salu2

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Re: [CentOS-es] automatizar acceso a servicios

2007-09-12 Thread Gustavo Pardo

Eduardo Grosclaude escribió:



On 9/12/07, *Gustavo Pardo* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Martin Llamas N. escribió:
  ...
  * Como hacer que el dominio se actualice de forma automatica
  * Como hacer que las configuraciones de apache se modifiquen
automaticamente

 


echo VirtualHost *:80  $USERNAME.conf
echo   ServerName $DOMAIN  $USERNAME.conf
echo   ServerAlias www.$DOMAIN  $USERNAME.conf
echo   DocumentRoot /home/$USERNAME/public_html  $USERNAME.conf
echo   CustomLog /home/$USERNAME/stats/access.log combined 
$USERNAME.conf
echo   ErrorLog /home/$USERNAME/stats/error.log  $USERNAME.conf
echo   Directory \/home/$USERNAME/public_html\  $USERNAME.conf
echo   AllowOverride All  $USERNAME.conf
echo   Allow From All  $USERNAME.conf
echo   Options +Indexes  $USERNAME.conf
echo   /Directory  $USERNAME.conf
echo /VirtualHost  $USERNAME.conf

espero te sirva, saludos.
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Me permito sugerir esta sintaxis que resulta más clara y fácil para 
modificar (copia textualmente lo que haya entre las dos ocurrencias de 
FIN):


cat  $USERNAME.conf FIN
VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName $DOMAIN
  ServerAlias www.$DOMAIN
  DocumentRoot /home/$USERNAME/public_html
  CustomLog /home/$USERNAME/stats/access.log combined
  ErrorLog /home/$USERNAME/stats/error.log
  Directory /home/$USERNAME/public_html
  AllowOverride All
  Allow From All
  Options +Indexes
  /Directory
/VirtualHost
FIN

La etiqueta FIN por supuesto puede tener cualquier nombre mientras no 
sea una palabra reservada del Bash. La del final tiene que estar solita 
en la línea, o sea, no debe tener espacios después ni nada de eso.


Un abrazo a Gustavo y cía.



queda mucho mejor, tks. y otro abrazo p/vos.

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[CentOS-es] d4x

2007-09-12 Thread feddds
buenas...
estimados mi pregunta es: como hago para instalar d4x en centos 5?

pasos que di:
1 google: centos d4x
2 arribe a esto: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/d4x/
3 baje este: d4x-2.5.0-1.2.el4.rf.i386.rpm
4 abrio la herramienta grafica para instalar
5 compruebo que aparece listado con Aplicaciones/Agregar y Quitar Software
6 tambien compruebo con: yum info d4x:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fabian]# yum info d4x
Loading installonlyn plugin
Setting up repositories
Reading repository metadata in from local files
Installed Packages
Name   : d4x
Arch   : i386
Version: 2.5.0
Release: 1.2.el4.rf
Size   : 2.5 M
Repo   : installed
Summary: Downloader for X that supports resuming and many other features

Description:
This program lets you download files from the internet using either the ftp
or http protocols. The main features are : Multithread, user-friendly GTK+
interface, resuming, multiple simultaneous downloads, recursive downloads
with wildcard and filter support, HTML links change for offline browsing,
proxy support, bandwidth limitation, scheduling, mass download, ftp search,
and many others!

Ahora, el problema es que no me aparece en Aplicaciones/Internet, ni
tampoco en consola cuando hago tab como root.

No entiendo. Como lo ejecuto?.
Gracias de antemano, feddds.
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Re: [CentOS] Automatic FTP problem in cron

2007-09-12 Thread umair shakil
Dear Ashley,

Thanks for your reply. Well i have checked that ftp package is not
installed. I install
the package but didnot give the full path.

The problem is resolved; Very thanks man.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
Askari Bank Limited


On 9/12/07, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting umair shakil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Cron Entry is :
  */5 * * * * /opt/bin/ftp.sh 2 /tmp/error_log
 
  /opt/bin/ftp.sh: line 3: ftp: command not found

Your shell script doesn't know where 'ftp' lives.  Best to put the
 full path into place, '/usr/bin/ftp'


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Re: [CentOS] Automatic FTP problem in cron

2007-09-12 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Quoting umair shakil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I install
the package but didnot give the full path.


  It is a good practice to always provide a proper path, either  
through a PATH statement, or by issuing the full path to the binary.


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[CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread umair shakil
Dear Concerns,

I would like to share a very strange problem. I am from Pakistan/Islamabad.
Last month i was on trainning
from Askari Bank Limited (Juniper). Here in Askari i m running NMS-- MRTGs
using CentOs 4.4. On trainning i recieved
a call from collique saying

 when i su -l NMS says root user doesnot exist. and also MRTGs not
working. well i was amazed how was it
possible. In the Evening i came back to office. I boot the machine in single
user mode and type the command;

less /etc/passwd

here when i found that user root existed, but the only thing that was
amazing is;

the spelling of root was changed from root to R00t. i changed to root
and every thing worked.

I want to ask, what is this, this doesnot seem a garbage value or nor
corruption of passwd file. only showing someone changes this. Here we have
bank private network, only two people have access  for it  me and  another
guy.

what are your opinions??

Please also share your strange experience.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
Askari bank Limited
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Re: [CentOS] Automatic FTP problem in cron

2007-09-12 Thread umair shakil
Dear Salam!!!

Very thanks, yes its a good practice.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
ETD



On 9/12/07, Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quoting umair shakil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I install
  the package but didnot give the full path.

It is a good practice to always provide a proper path, either
 through a PATH statement, or by issuing the full path to the binary.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos Router

2007-09-12 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Graham Johnston wrote:
 With the current discuss of Performance of CentOS as a NAT gateway, I
 am curious how many people out there are using CentOS as a
 Router/Firewall in an enterprise or service provider environment.  For
 myself I am not really concerned about NAT just a stateful firewall. 

Our firewall runs on CentOS 5, x86_64.

It runs on a HP Workstation with dual core Xeon 5140 2.33 GHz.

Intel dual 82571EB NIC, one NIC for the external (we have 1 Gbit
internet connection), and one NIC for the internal connections
(two VLANs, one with DMZ other with ~250 machines). No NAT.

This is of course not a big setup, but the CentOS/Fedora mirror
in the DMZ does give some traffic.

The iptables setup has 119 rules.

No problems whatsoever with performance.

I've made a kickstart configuration for the firewall.
If we get a hardware crash on the fw, we can take another
machine and get it up running as a new firewill
within a few minutes (the most timeconsuming is formatting
the root partition). This is quite a nice setup.

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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Steven Haigh

On 12/09/2007, at 4:25 PM, umair shakil wrote:

Dear Concerns,

I would like to share a very strange problem. I am from Pakistan/ 
Islamabad. Last month i was on trainning
from Askari Bank Limited (Juniper). Here in Askari i m running NMS-- 
 MRTGs using CentOs 4.4. On trainning i recieved

a call from collique saying

 when i su -l NMS says root user doesnot exist. and also MRTGs  
not working. well i was amazed how was it
possible. In the Evening i came back to office. I boot the machine  
in single user mode and type the command;


less /etc/passwd

here when i found that user root existed, but the only thing that  
was amazing is;


the spelling of root was changed from root to R00t. i changed  
to root and every thing worked.


I want to ask, what is this, this doesnot seem a garbage value or  
nor corruption of passwd file. only showing someone changes this.  
Here we have bank private network, only two people have access  for  
it  me and  another guy.


what are your opinions??


This is usually done to change the root account name to something  
else. This is most often done for security - as most hacking attempts  
use the username root. Changing this to something else means that all  
those attempts would fail. As long as the UID is set to 0, most  
system things won't care that the user root is now known as R00t.


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[CentOS] Can't install Kaffeine from RPMForge repo

2007-09-12 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi,

I'm currently fiddling with the KDE desktop just to see if it suits our users 
better than the default GNOME. 

I configured the RPMForge repos and launched a 'yum install kaffeine'. After 
packages are downloaded, I get the following error:

Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-mplayer2.desktop from install of 
kaffeine-0.7.1-1.2.el5.rf conflicts with file from package 
kdelibs-3.5.4-11.el5.centos

Error Summary
-

Any suggestions?

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[CentOS] Re: Can't install Kaffeine from RPMForge repo

2007-09-12 Thread Timothy Kesten
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 09:24 schrieb Niki Kovacs:
 Hi,

 I'm currently fiddling with the KDE desktop just to see if it suits our
 users better than the default GNOME.

 I configured the RPMForge repos and launched a 'yum install kaffeine'.
 After packages are downloaded, I get the following error:

 Running Transaction Test
 Finished Transaction Test


 Transaction Check Error:
   file /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-mplayer2.desktop from install of
 kaffeine-0.7.1-1.2.el5.rf conflicts with file from package
 kdelibs-3.5.4-11.el5.centos

 Error Summary
 -

 Any suggestions?


Look here - a short discussion on the list - but no (real) solution

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-September/086328.html

Timothy
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Can't install Kaffeine from RPMForge repo

2007-09-12 Thread Niki Kovacs
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007 09:37, Timothy Kesten a écrit :
 Look here - a short discussion on the list - but no (real) solution

 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-September/086328.html

Thanks! I gave the FC6 SRPM a try, and it built and installed - and now 
works - like a charm.

Cheers,

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[CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya
Hi All,

I want to put a ASTERISK BOX bend a Firewall. So I have given below rules.


iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 192.168.101.30 -m multiport --dports
3478,4569,5060 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 192.168.101.30 --dport 1:2 -m state
--state NEW -j ACCEPT

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 -m multiport
--dports 3478,4569,5060 -j DNAT --to-destination
192.168.101.30
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 --dport 1:2
-j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.101.30

pls assume 1.2.3.4 is the ip that connects to the internet.


I use Xlite sotphone to talk. I can register. it says user ready. I can dial
extentions as well. But , WHEN I talk , Both parties can not hear anyrhing.

in rtp.conf file,  PORT 1 to 2 are also available.


Hope to hear from you.


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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Andy Green
Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 the spelling of root was changed from root to R00t. i changed to
 root and every thing worked.
 
 I want to ask, what is this, this doesnot seem a garbage value or nor
 corruption of passwd file. only showing someone changes this. Here we
 have bank private network, only two people have access  for it  me and 
 another guy.
 
 what are your opinions??

I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.

Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
out without noticing this had happened?

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[CentOS] Re: [LARTC] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Indunil Jayasooriya



 When you're dialing from your xlite, are you trying another extension on
 the same network?

  YES








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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou

Indunil Jayasooriya wrote:

Hi All,

I want to put a ASTERISK BOX bend a Firewall. So I have given below rules.



Sure. So long as it is NOT a natting firewall.



iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 192.168.101.30 http://192.168.101.30 -m 
multiport --dports 3478,4569,5060 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 192.168.101.30 http://192.168.101.30 
--dport 1:2 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT


iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 http://1.2.3.4 
-m multiport --dports 3478,4569,5060 -j DNAT --to-destination

192.168.101.30 http://192.168.101.30
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 http://1.2.3.4 
--dport 1:2 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.101.30 
http://192.168.101.30


pls assume 1.2.3.4 http://1.2.3.4 is the ip that connects to the 
internet.


Forget it. This will never work.




I use Xlite sotphone to talk. I can register. it says user ready. I can 
dial extentions as well. But , WHEN I talk , Both parties can not hear 
anyrhing.


in rtp.conf file,  PORT 1 to 2 are also available.


asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.

I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below was trouble 
enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a nat to work 
with clients outside.


asterisk - nat - sip client.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 on IA64

2007-09-12 Thread Les Bell

Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What is the minimum for actual hardware?  I have a small s390 here that
I've
been looking for a reason to power up.  What sort of access is needed?


Typical install minimum is around 512 MB RAM and a few GB of DASD. If
you're installing in an LPAR you'll need to use the HMC to boot install
media from CD-ROM or tape. Under VM, you can use a CMS profile disk to move
the initial boot files onto DASD, then run a REXX exec to punch them to a
virtual RDR and then re-ipl. Once the install-time kernel has started, you
need to drive the install via SSH, or remote X or VNC (I forget which
mechanisms RHEL supports) and it needs to use either a physical interface
or a guest LAN interface, IUCV or VCTC to do that as well as download the
installation packages.

Once installation is done, I don't know what resources would be required to
rebuild the entire distro - that's where the developers come in. And
obiously another LPAR or VM guest would be required to test the built 5.0
system.

Best,

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[CentOS] New mysql for the CentOSPlus repository includes mysql-cluster

2007-09-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS has been distributing the Enterprise version of MySQL as part of
our CentOS Web Stack that is in the CentOSPlus repository of CentOS-4
for quite a while.

http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack

MySQL has recently changed it's policy concerning the distribution of
it's Enterprise Sources (they no longer distribute them as a tarball):

http://www.linux.com/feature/118489

CentOS has also had problems getting Red Hat to distribute their GPL'ed
SRPM to us for the Enterprise MySQL version of their Red Hat Web
Application Stack (due to an agreement between MySQL and Red Hat):

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=230412

However, as you have come to expect from the CentOS project ... we did
not take these answers to mean that we would not be able to get the
Enterprise Sources for MySQL and distribute enterprise grade RPMS to our
customers.

I would like to publicly thank Proven Scaling, LLC
http://www.provenscaling.com/ (and specifically Jeremy Cole) for
continuing to provide the GPL'ed tarball in question.  Because of their
efforts and because of the organization that they contribute to known as
Dorsal Source http://www.dorsalsource.org/ we will continue to be be
able to easily provide the CentOS community with updated enterprise RPMS
for MySQL.  I would also like to personally recommend Proven Scaling,
LLC for any and all MySQL related work that you might need to have
accomplished, they are good people :D

That said, the latest version of MySQL that we are building for the
CentOS Web Stack has a package called mysql-cluster.  It was added
upstream in version 5.0.40 of the upstream product and this
(mysql-cluster-5.0.48-1.el4.centos.i386.rpm and
mysql-cluster-5.0.48-1.el4.centos.x86_64.rpm) is it's first appearance
in the CentOS Web Stack.

The mysql-cluster files are produced by adding this switch to the
compile mysql configuration statement:

--with-ndbcluster

For information about how you would use mysql-cluster, please see this
mysql documentation:

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-cluster.html

This new mysql-cluster package is not required for normal mysql
operations, and will be available also for CentOS-5 from the testing
repository soon.

NOTE: for anyone who wants to upgrade their MySQL in CentOS-4, you need
to follow this guide if moving from the standard CentOS-4 (mysql-4.1.x)
to the CentOS webstack (mysql-5.0.x):

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/upgrade.html

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:24:57AM +0100, Andy Green wrote:
 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 
  the spelling of root was changed from root to R00t. i changed to
 
 I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
 terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
 to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.

What you saw was the act of the the ~ key, which changes case in vi.
Now a lot of the extra keys have escape sequences ending in a ~ (eg ^[[14~
is F4 on some terminals).  Now, if vi doesn't recognise these extended
sequences as referring to a single key press, then it might treat it as
the commands ESCAPE followed by [1 (probably won't do anything) followed
by 4~  - ie it will change the case of the next 4 characters.

So if the OP saw ROOT (rather than R00T) then this is a possibility for
what happened.

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Re: [CentOS] downloading an src.rpm?

2007-09-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
Alexander Dalloz wrote:
 Dave schrieb:
 Hello,
I've got the rpmforge repo configured as a 3rd party repo. There's an
 rpm that i'd like to get the coresponding src.rpm, install it, and
 recompile it. How would i do this with yum?
 Thanks.
 Dave.
 
 yum install yum-utils (from extras)
 yum-downloader package
 

That only works if the SourceRPM is in the metadata for the repo in
question.

I do not know if RPMForge includes their SRPMS in the metadata ...
CentOS does include our SRPMS in our metadata.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Andy Green
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:24:57AM +0100, Andy Green wrote:
 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 the spelling of root was changed from root to R00t. i changed to
 I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
 terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
 to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.
 
 What you saw was the act of the the ~ key, which changes case in vi.
 Now a lot of the extra keys have escape sequences ending in a ~ (eg ^[[14~
 is F4 on some terminals).  Now, if vi doesn't recognise these extended
 sequences as referring to a single key press, then it might treat it as
 the commands ESCAPE followed by [1 (probably won't do anything) followed
 by 4~  - ie it will change the case of the next 4 characters.

Well thanks for the explanation... IIRC it was being provoked in my case
rather annoyingly by Home and End that my fingers had gotten used to using.

-Andy
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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread umair shakil
Dear,

Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
out without noticing this had happened?

i would like to add, MRTGs were not updated as my collique logged in...
MRTGs
worked fine after that again few hours he logge in and then su - but
problem raised.

Then please tell me spelling has changed Automatically:( Its is obvious
that
someone has changed it.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
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On 9/12/07, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Somebody in the thread at some point said:

  the spelling of root was changed from root to R00t. i changed to
  root and every thing worked.
 
  I want to ask, what is this, this doesnot seem a garbage value or nor
  corruption of passwd file. only showing someone changes this. Here we
  have bank private network, only two people have access  for it  me and
  another guy.
 
  what are your opinions??

 I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
 terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
 to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.

 Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
 out without noticing this had happened?

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Re: [CentOS] RE: php 5.2

2007-09-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
Melinda Odom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 seems to have a lot of security fixes:
 http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.2.0
 
 Version 5.2.0 was orginally released 02-Nov-2006.
 
 What is the process and time frame for released software to be available in
 an operating system?  I am not familiar with this.

php-5.2 will most likely not ever be included in CentOS-3,4,5 ... it
will probably be in CentOS-6 on release.

Enterprise software does not upgrade major software versions for
critical components ... it instead provides security updates and bugfix
updates to the components it ships with.

The upstream provider will roll in updates that they want using a
process called backporting.  See this explanation:

http://tinyurl.com/r77l2

Remember, changing ABI/API's and other function calls breaks software
already developed for an enterprise and enterprise level software is
designed to NOT do that.

It is possible that CentOS might (at some point) include php-5.2.0 in
the CentOSPlus repository
http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/CentOSPlus for CentOS-5 ...
probably not for CentOS-4 or CentOS-3 though.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] imap webmail client needed

2007-09-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
Leonel wrote:
 On 9/8/07, Barry Brimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi list,

 I´m searching a webmail imap client including a calendar and a todo list
 (last is not necessary) for 2 or 3 users. I have tried zimbra but it´s too
 oversized for my claim.
 Do someone have a hint?
 Thanks.
 I prefer Horde, which is available in the CentOS Extras repository.  The
 horde website is horde.org

 and the security updates  for centos  extras  is the same  as  centos ?

CentOS extras gets security updates that also go into the extras
repository ... not sure what the question is.

Extras are items that we include for CentOS that do upgrade any core
components and are not in the Enterprise upstream offering.

See for details:

http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories



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Re: [CentOS] Accidentally removed glibc glibc-devel :: Help

2007-09-12 Thread Toby Bluhm

geekylucas wrote:

Hi,

I attempted to ugprade glibc  glibc-devel and ended up removing them
entirely by accident.  *idiot*

What are the steps needed to get glibc back onto my system.
Absolutely nothing is working at the moment, rpm, yum, etc.  I presume
I'm going to have to boot from a rescue CD of some kind.

If someone could outline how to do this, or point me to some docs I
would be most grateful.  (CentOS 4.3)

  


Copy the rpms you need to reinstall onto another rpm type system - any
somewhat current rpm type distro will do. Run rpm2cpio to extract the
rpm into a cpio package. Take that cpio pkg to your busted machine and
cpio extract the files. Things should then work OK. You should then be 
able to force rpm install the real rpm.


I've done this twice, a whacked rpm and glibc -
always used / as the working dir on the busted machine. Worked like a charm.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus Perl Upgrade

2007-09-12 Thread Johnny Hughes
Nick Webb wrote:
 Hey All,
 
 I'm trying to upgrade to perl 5.8.8 via CentOSPlus, but am having no
 luck.  Here is what I have done.
 
 # yum list | grep perl
  . . .
 perl.i3863:5.8.5-12.1   installed
  . . .
 
 Created /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Base.repo with:
 
 #additional packages that extend functionality of existing packages
 [centosplus]
 name=CentOS-$releasever - Plus
 mirrorlist=http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=$releaseverarch=$basearchrepo=centosplus
 #baseurl=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/$releasever/centosplus/$basearch/
 gpgcheck=1
 enabled=0
 priority=2
 gpgkey=http://mirror.centos.org/centos/RPM-GPG-KEY-centos4
 exclude=kernel kernel-devel kernel-smp-* kernel-hugemem* kernel-largesmp*
 
 Then tried:
 # sudo yum --enablerepo=centosplus upgrade perl
 Setting up Upgrade Process
 Setting up repositories
 Reading repository metadata in from local files
 Excluding Packages in global exclude list
 Finished
 Excluding Packages from CentOS-4 - Plus
 Finished
 Could not find update match for perl
 No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion
 
 What am I missing?

Since the Base and Updates repos are:
priority=1

And since the CentOSPlus repo is:
priority=2

You will need to set perl (and any other items you want from CentOSPlus
to overwrite base and/or updates repo) to exclude= in the base repo and
the updates repo.

HOWEVER ... the perl in CentOSPlus is part of the CentOS Web Stack ...
and you need to use all the pieces of that together if you want to use
any of it ... see this guide:

http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack


 
 Actually, looking at the yum list output, it looks like the current
 version installed is of the i386 architecture, while this machine is
 x86_64?  Is that the problem?  If so is it safe to install the i386
 package?  Is there an easy way to do this via yum?

It depends ... you can use i386 or x86_64 or both.  Adding this:

%_query_all_fmt %%{name}-%%{version}-%%{release}.%%{arch}

to a file called ~/.rpmmacros will allow you to do:

rpm -qa | sort

and see what i[3,4,5,6]86 and x86_64 packages are installed.

 
 # uname -a
 Linux dev 2.6.9-42.0.10.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Feb 27 09:40:21 EST 2007
 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 

You need a newer kernel :D

 I'm begining to think the previous admin made some poor decisions on
 this server...

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 on IA64

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Rigler
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 16:16 -0700, James A. Peltier wrote:

 BTW: Anyone out there have CentOS on SGI Altix?

We have two Altix machines (256p BX2 and 24p 3700) that are still stuck
on SGI PP3 because we're hesitant to go to SuSE.  I recall SGI saying
that RHEL 4 (and thus CentOS 4) should work but that RedHat has a
hangup on supporting anything with more than 16 CPU's.

We have a test 8p Altix 350 that, if I can find some time, I might try
to install CentOS on it.  

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[CentOS] Re: Can't install Kaffeine from RPMForge repo

2007-09-12 Thread Timothy Kesten
Am Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 09:51 schrieb Niki Kovacs:
 Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007 09:37, Timothy Kesten a écrit :
  Look here - a short discussion on the list - but no (real) solution
 
  http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2007-September/086328.html

 Thanks! I gave the FC6 SRPM a try, and it built and installed - and now
 works - like a charm.

Good news - I  will try it also

Thanks
Timothy
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Re: [CentOS] rpm spec files for ruby

2007-09-12 Thread James B. Byrne
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:34:14 -0700, Garrick Staples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 03:56:07PM -0400, James B. Byrne alleged:
 I am now getting this:

 configure: creating ./config.status
 config.status: creating Makefile
 + --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby --with-default-kcodeone
 --with-bundled-sha1 --with-bundled-md5 --with-bundled-rmd160
 --enable-shared --enable-ipv6 --enable-pthread
 --with-lookup-order-hack=INET --disable-rpath --with-ruby-prefix=/usr/lib
 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.49488: line 62: --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby:
 No such file or directory
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.49488 (%build)


 Since /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby evidently exists, why am I being told that
 it does not?

 It is telling you that --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby doesn't
 exist as a file, which is obviously correct.  You probably have an extra
 newline char or missing continuation char.

You will note that the error message states No such file or directory
which is not congruent with your observation.  Indeed, site_ruby MUST be a
directory.

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[CentOS] question about modproble.conf

2007-09-12 Thread ann kok
Hi all

Can I ask question about modprobe.conf? I think fedora
is same as Centos. 

I have 1 x 4 ports broadcom NIC and 1 x 2 ports Intel
NIC installed in fedora 6 system

in /etc/modprobe.conf

the module:
aliase e1000 eth0
aliase e1000 eth1
aliase tg3   eth2
aliase tg3   eth3
aliase tg3   eth4
aliase tg3   eth5

but the dmesg|grep eth
eth4 and eth5 is intel card


but i change to the moderprobe and reboot


aliase tg3   eth0
aliase tg3   eth1
aliase tg3   eth2
aliase tg3   eth3
aliase e1000 eth4
aliase e1000 eth5


dmesg |grep eth

eth0 and eth1 becomes intel card

As I add additional and remove NIC before so that I
removed HW line HW address in all
/etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-ethX file

Now. the system seems random in above option 1 and
option 2 after rebooting everytime!

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RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Feizhou wrote:
 
 Indunil Jayasooriya wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  I want to put a ASTERISK BOX bend a Firewall. So I have 
 given below rules.
  
 
 Sure. So long as it is NOT a natting firewall.
 
  
  iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 192.168.101.30 
 http://192.168.101.30 -m 
  multiport --dports 3478,4569,5060 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
  iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -d 192.168.101.30 
 http://192.168.101.30 
  --dport 1:2 -m state --state NEW -j ACCEPT
  
  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 
 http://1.2.3.4 
  -m multiport --dports 3478,4569,5060 -j DNAT --to-destination
  192.168.101.30 http://192.168.101.30
  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i eth0 -d 1.2.3.4 
 http://1.2.3.4 
  --dport 1:2 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.101.30 
  http://192.168.101.30
  
  pls assume 1.2.3.4 http://1.2.3.4 is the ip that connects to the 
  internet.
 
 Forget it. This will never work.
 
  
  
  I use Xlite sotphone to talk. I can register. it says user 
 ready. I can 
  dial extentions as well. But , WHEN I talk , Both parties 
 can not hear 
  anyrhing.
  
  in rtp.conf file,  PORT 1 to 2 are also available.
 
 asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
 
 I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below 
 was trouble 
 enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a 
 nat to work 
 with clients outside.
 
 asterisk - nat - sip client.

Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
work from behind a firewall.

I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
running any SIP application here yet.

Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Installation troubles

2007-09-12 Thread Chuck Campbell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:37:05PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Chuck Campbell wrote:
 Bothe kernels see the card though (looking in /var/log/messages after boot.
 
 Can you post the output from 'dmesg; lsmod; lspci -n' booting the 
 installtime kernel at http://pastebin.ca/ and post the url to that here..

I concatenated dmesg, lsmod and lspci outputs from booting the install
kernel into a single file and put it here:

http://pastebin.ca/693896

Glancing through dmesg I do see the 3ware controller and sda, sdb, 
sdc and sdd, so in the install kernel, it looks like everything is 
recognized.

I then booted the updated kernel and reran the dmesg, lsmod and lspci
commands, then concatenated the outputs into another file and put it here:

http://pastebin.ca/693905

I see differences with respect to the 3ware stuff and disks recognized, but 
I don't know how to reconcile them with the new kernel.  Both kernels
seem to load the 3ware module (lsmod output), but the updated kernel
doesn't see the raid devices (only /dev/sda and /dev/sdb).  

-chuck

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[CentOS] Re: Language interfaces and X.Org sessions per user

2007-09-12 Thread Ioannis Vranos

OS: CentOS 5.0 x86.


Q1: Is it possible different users to have different language interfaces
(menus etc) on the same machine under X.Org (GNOME or KDE)?

Q2: Is it possible to have more than one X.Org sessions running on the
same machine, so as different users to log in at the same time, and
switch between users X.Org sessions (one using GNOME, other using 
XFCE)

by using the usual Ctrl-Alt-Fx keys?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: [CentOS] Installation troubles

2007-09-12 Thread Chuck Campbell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 05:19:07PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 
 If you want to keep the driver in-place even when the kernel updates, you 
 might want to investigate the weak-updates process and how you might get a 
 driver included into that. Pretty much everything you need to make it 
 happen would be on the system already.
 

Where do I find info about this?  I suspect I will need to do this with 
every kernel update???

-chuck
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[CentOS] Language interfaces and X.Org sessions per user

2007-09-12 Thread Ioannis Vranos

OS: CentOS 5.0 x86.


Q1: Is it possible different users to have different language interfaces
(menus etc) on the same machine under X.Org (GNOME or KDE)?

Q2: Is it possible to have more than one X.Org sessions running on the
same machine, so as different users to log in at the same time, and
switch between users X.Org sessions (one using GNOME, other using
XFCE)
by using the usual Ctrl-Alt-Fx keys?


Thanks in advance.


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Re: [CentOS] rpm spec files for ruby

2007-09-12 Thread Garrick Staples
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:24:05AM -0400, James B. Byrne alleged:
 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:34:14 -0700, Garrick Staples [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 03:56:07PM -0400, James B. Byrne alleged:
  I am now getting this:
 
  configure: creating ./config.status
  config.status: creating Makefile
  + --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby --with-default-kcodeone
  --with-bundled-sha1 --with-bundled-md5 --with-bundled-rmd160
  --enable-shared --enable-ipv6 --enable-pthread
  --with-lookup-order-hack=INET --disable-rpath --with-ruby-prefix=/usr/lib
  /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.49488: line 62: --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby:
  No such file or directory
  error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.49488 (%build)
 
 
  Since /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby evidently exists, why am I being told that
  it does not?
 
  It is telling you that --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby doesn't
  exist as a file, which is obviously correct.  You probably have an extra
  newline char or missing continuation char.
 
 You will note that the error message states No such file or directory
 which is not congruent with your observation.  Indeed, site_ruby MUST be a
 directory.

I'm sure /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby is a perfectly happy directory, but
--with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby isn't.

For example:
$ ls -l ./--with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby
ls: cannot access ./--with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby: No such file or 
directory

$ --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby
bash: --with-sitedir=/usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby: No such file or directory




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Re: [CentOS] yum proxy username with @ character

2007-09-12 Thread David Toman

Dear Umair,
the issue is that I have got no access to the proxy configuration, it is 
simply there :-)


I have spent another day with searching but no success yet.

Regards,
David

umair shakil wrote:

Dear David,

Why dont u bypass this sytem from proxy, or use some transparent
proxy.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,
I am having problem with setting up the proxy for yum correctly. I
have
got no influence on proxy policy or authentication methods. The proxy
username contains the '@' character.
My question is if there is any way how to enter the username
correctly
into the yum.conf. I tried many ways but has not been successful yet.

Many thanks,
David
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Re: [CentOS] Unable to POST after suspend

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 12:13 -0500, B.J. McClure wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 13:19 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have one idea that may work.  Try seeing if your bios supports a
  bios upgrade floppy (it would say so in the owners manual).  Now by
  bios upgrade floppy I don't mean the usual type that use an os.
  There are some that the bios will directly read from without an os
  being used.  The concept is to recover from failed bios upgrades.
  The reason I suggest this is because I think the setting that's
  keeping your system off is hiding in your bios' acpi table and I
  don't think a bios reset will dump it, but a bios upgrade might.
  
  My motherboard do support such BIOS upgrades (really nice since it's
  OS
  independent) but you need to get to the POST before you can ask it
  to
  search for the floppy.
  
  But it won't power on at all. The CPU FAN doesn't start, the disk
  doesn't rotate, the monitor doesn't get any signal. The only thing
  that
  indicates the slightest sign of life is the LED on the motherboard
  and
  my keyboard if I press Num Lock.
  
  Is there something on the motherboard I can disconnect to reset the
  ACPI
  table?
 Seems to me there is room to suspect a hardware issue instead of acpi.
 I would confirm power supply connector to mainboard by removing and
 reinserting until properly seated.  Also would confirm two wires from
 power button on case/chassis are correctly connected to proper pin
 terminals at edge of mainboard.  If still no joy, would swap a known
 good power supply.  If that fails, you might try removing the power
 switch leads from the pin terminal strip and use a phillips
 screwdriver blade or other appropriate tool to short the proper pins
 momentarily to start the beast.  I have replaced three bad power
 switches in the recent few years, so they do fail.

In its current configuration, this system has survived over 500 boots.
It has failed this one time, which is the only time I've tried to use
suspend. I've tested every component in other PC's and they all seem to
function properly, except the motherboard.

My theory is that the suspend succeeded but perhaps the BIOS settings
don't define any way to switch state SLEEP - ON. The system has been
without power and BIOS battery over night, but it hasn't changed
anything.

Do anybody know of a way to force wake up?

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Unable to POST after suspend

2007-09-12 Thread Mark Rosenstand
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 12:00 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
 I have never had an OS make a machine where a hard reset wouldn't reboot it.

Me neither.

 Are you sure that some hardware didn't fail at the same time? Maybe the power 
 supply.

Yes.

Does anybody know where ACPI state is stored?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 on IA64

2007-09-12 Thread James A. Peltier

Steve Rigler wrote:

On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 16:16 -0700, James A. Peltier wrote:


BTW: Anyone out there have CentOS on SGI Altix?


We have two Altix machines (256p BX2 and 24p 3700) that are still stuck
on SGI PP3 because we're hesitant to go to SuSE.  I recall SGI saying
that RHEL 4 (and thus CentOS 4) should work but that RedHat has a
hangup on supporting anything with more than 16 CPU's.

We have a test 8p Altix 350 that, if I can find some time, I might try
to install CentOS on it.  


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ProPack 5 has support for RHEL 5, thus why I would prefer to wait for 
CentOS 5.  I'm in a holding pattern on my migration until then since PP4 
is not *officially* supported on RHEL 4.


Currently my machines ( 64p x 64g 3700  32p x 32g prism) are running 
RHEL AS 3 PP3SP6 and SLES 10 PP4SP3.  CentOS 5 and ProPack 5 offers my 
users a great deal in terms of support and features.  I get regular 
updates, much newer software and supported (not from SGI) ProPack 5.


BTW: I tried booting on my 3700 it booted the kernel to a point where it 
identified the serial number and machine configuration details but 
didn't seem to go any further.  I only messed with it for about 20 mins 
during a downtime period so it was far from comprehensive testing. 
Hopefully, when the loaner Altix 450 arrives I can work out some of the 
bugs.


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Re: [CentOS] question about modproble.conf

2007-09-12 Thread Alain Spineux
Their was multiple post and thread about this in the list.
The main subject was: controlling module load order

Here is the last one, look for the other.

Regards

On 8/31/07, Jerry Geis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jerry Geis wrote:
 / Is there a method to control module load order?
 //
 // I want to ensure that the e1000 module loads before the forcedeth driver.
 /
 The following might work in /etc/modprobe.conf:

 install forcedeth /sbin/modprobe e1000; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install 
 forcedeth
 
 James Pearson

 James - fantastic,

 I tried this and it worked. Thanks!

 Jerry


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 Hi all

 Can I ask question about modprobe.conf? I think fedora
 is same as Centos.

 I have 1 x 4 ports broadcom NIC and 1 x 2 ports Intel
 NIC installed in fedora 6 system

 in /etc/modprobe.conf

 the module:
 aliase e1000 eth0
 aliase e1000 eth1
 aliase tg3   eth2
 aliase tg3   eth3
 aliase tg3   eth4
 aliase tg3   eth5

 but the dmesg|grep eth
 eth4 and eth5 is intel card


 but i change to the moderprobe and reboot


 aliase tg3   eth0
 aliase tg3   eth1
 aliase tg3   eth2
 aliase tg3   eth3
 aliase e1000 eth4
 aliase e1000 eth5


 dmesg |grep eth

 eth0 and eth1 becomes intel card

 As I add additional and remove NIC before so that I
 removed HW line HW address in all
 /etc/sysconfig/network-script/ifcfg-ethX file

 Now. the system seems random in above option 1 and
 option 2 after rebooting everytime!

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Re: [CentOS] yum proxy username with @ character

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

David Toman wrote:

Hi,
I am having problem with setting up the proxy for yum correctly. I have 
got no influence on proxy policy or authentication methods. The proxy 
username contains the '@' character.
My question is if there is any way how to enter the username correctly 
into the yum.conf. I tried many ways but has not been successful yet.


you might want to ask on the yum list at 
https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/mailman/listinfo/yum


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Re: [CentOS] Installation troubles

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Chuck Campbell wrote:

http://pastebin.ca/693896
http://pastebin.ca/693905


As you have already pointed out in this email, yes - the installtime kernel does 
see the drives fine.



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Re: [CentOS] Unable to POST after suspend

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007, Mark Rosenstand wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 12:13 -0500, B.J. McClure wrote:
 
...

In its current configuration, this system has survived over 500 boots.
It has failed this one time, which is the only time I've tried to use
suspend. I've tested every component in other PC's and they all seem to
function properly, except the motherboard.

My theory is that the suspend succeeded but perhaps the BIOS settings
don't define any way to switch state SLEEP - ON. The system has been
without power and BIOS battery over night, but it hasn't changed
anything.

Do anybody know of a way to force wake up?

Many main boards have a place to set a jumper to reset the BIOS
to the default state.  I've never tried resetting things using
this (and try not to deal with hardware if I can help it which is
my my company name is not Celestial Hardware :-).

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Re: [CentOS] Installation troubles

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Chuck Campbell wrote:
If you want to keep the driver in-place even when the kernel updates, you 
might want to investigate the weak-updates process and how you might get a 
driver included into that. Pretty much everything you need to make it 
happen would be on the system already.




Where do I find info about this?  I suspect I will need to do this with 
every kernel update???


how exactly where you planning on managing out-of-tree kernel drivers otherwise 
?

btw, since this is a stable distro you are using, the chances are that the same 
driver will work through the life of the product. Try this command : 
/sbin/weak-modules and register the driver you have against that. Then reinstall 
 the updated kernel and the driver should move along.


I shall try and do some more specific docs on this, in the centos wiki, over the 
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[CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
I have to say that I was more that a bit surprised, if not to say dismayed
when I booted a system with CentOS 5 installed to test a kickstart CD in
interactive mode, took it to the custom partitioning screen, then rebooted
without saving anything only to come up with a grub prompt, and the disk's
partition table wiped.  The ks.cfg file did say to wipe the disk when
installing, but I would expect that it wouldn't do this in interactive mode
until one told it to start the installation.

I have been installing Linux systems for well over a decade, starting with
Caldera Network Desktop 1.0, all versions of Caldera through 2001, and SuSE
from 8.1 through SLES10, and never have I seen an installation procedure
that would write to anything on the hard drive without asking first.

This certainly violates the Principle of Least Surprise.

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Perrin
On 9/12/07, Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to say that I was more that a bit surprised, if not to say dismayed
 when I booted a system with CentOS 5 installed to test a kickstart CD in
 interactive mode, took it to the custom partitioning screen, then rebooted
 without saving anything only to come up with a grub prompt, and the disk's
 partition table wiped.  The ks.cfg file did say to wipe the disk when
 installing, but I would expect that it wouldn't do this in interactive mode
 until one told it to start the installation.


Anything that's in the kickstart file gets done without interaction.
You can leave parts of the kickstart file out, and it'll prompt you
for these things once it gets to this stage. If you told the ks.cfg to
wipe the disk, it will happily do this without asking questions.

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Perrin
I suppose it would help if I finished the reply before sending.

On 9/12/07, Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have been installing Linux systems for well over a decade, starting with
 Caldera Network Desktop 1.0, all versions of Caldera through 2001, and SuSE
 from 8.1 through SLES10, and never have I seen an installation procedure
 that would write to anything on the hard drive without asking first.

The whole idea behind kickstart is that it does not ask questions.
It's for automated installs. Think pxe setup, or a computer lab, or
hundreds of identical workstations. Why answer questions on all of
them, when you can automate the process and go get a coffee?

 This certainly violates the Principle of Least Surprise.
Not really. The tool works as expected. You're just unfamiliar with it.
Not trying to sound snippy with this, so please don't take it this way.


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[CentOS] Re: [CentOS-devel] Areca RAID drivers

2007-09-12 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 23:32 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 Phil Schaffner wrote:
  Karanbir provided driver disk images and indicated that kmod drivers
  would be in CentOS-5 Extras, but apparently these never materialized.
  The only src.rpm I could turn up was the last link above, and I did get
  CentOS-5 x86_64 kmod-style drivers to build from that one.  Found other
  indications that these drivers MIGHT be in the standard 5.1 kernel.
 
 Ive been talking to and working with the guys at Areca to get the
 drivers sorted, they are also working with upstream to get the driver
 included in the upstream kernel, for now - use the dd images I pushed,
 that will do-the-right-thing, and follow weak-updates, so you dont need
 kmod's for them with the kernels for c5 ( so far ) - I have half a dozen
 11xx and 12xx Areca cards in production, and I can tell you that they
 totally rock!

Please pardon the cross-posting to centos-users - in case others may be
interested.

Did a fresh install of CentOS-5 x86_64 on my server with Areca RAID (2
5TB RAID-5 arrays) with the OS on mirrored SCSI disks set up as software
RAID-1 using Karanbir's dd ISO image.  Used custom install and mounted
the existing Areca RAID arrays as /data1 and /data2 (as they were for
CentOS-4 - originally set up by the vendor with RHEL-4).  Install and
reboot went flawlessly, but after update to the latest kernel a reboot
did not find the driver for kernel-2.6.18-8.1.8.el5 and left me in
single-user mode.  Copied /lib/modules/2.6.18-8.el5/updates/arcmsr.ko
created by the original installation to 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-8.1.8.el5/weak-updates/arcmsr.ko 
did depmod -a and modprobe arcmsr and the Areca devices then
mounted.

I'm a newbie to weak-updates so would appreciate it if anyone could
point out the right way [TM] to do this automagically when a new
kernel is installed.  Perhaps my google-foo is off today, or I have not
exercised sufficient diligence to RTFM, but can't seem to find the
recipe.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Wanted to try the dkms approach and the spec file below (based on
RPMforge dkms-r1000.spec) worked for me.  Installing the resulting RPM
created /lib/modules/2.6.18-8.1.8.el5/extra/arcmsr.ko, made a soft link
to it as /lib/modules/2.6.18-8.el5/weak-updates/arcmsr.ko, and removed 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-8.1.8.el5/weak-updates/arcmsr.ko

Should probably have figured out how to use the original ZIP archive
from the vendor

ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw/RaidCards/AP_Drivers/Linux/DRIVER/CentOS/CentOS-5.0/1.20.0X.13/arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13.zip

in the spec, but instead cheated and created a .tgz archive from it to
stay closer to the r1000 spec file's approach:

$ tar ztvf arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13.tgz 
drwxrwxr-x prs/prs   0 2006-12-22 17:52:50 arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13/
drwxrwxr-x prs/prs   0 2006-12-22 17:52:50 
arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13/arcmsr/
-rw-rw-r-- prs/prs   96956 2006-11-08 16:59:50 
arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13/arcmsr/arcmsr.c
-rw-rw-r-- prs/prs  377113 2006-11-08 16:59:00 
arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13/arcmsr/arcmsr.h
-rw-rw-r-- prs/prs 149 2005-07-21 19:10:00 
arcmsr.redhat.1.20.0x.13/arcmsr/Makefile

Have yet to have a go at packaging the vendor's binary (CLI and HTTP)
files in an RPM (reference earlier nosrc.rpm discussions in this
thread), but did create a chkconfig-compatible script to set up the
httpd service after a manual install.  See below.

I would hope Areca drivers might appear on RPMforge or CentOS Extras
some day soon.  Comments appreciated.

Phil

--- dkms-arcmsr.spec - 
# $Id$
# Authority: prs
# Dist: nodist

Summary: Driver for Areca RAID
Name: dkms-arcmsr
Version: 1.20.0x.13
Release: 1
License: GPL
Group: System Environment/Kernel
# Need to unzip driver archive and convert to tgz
URL: ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw/RaidCards/AP_Drivers/Linux/DRIVER/CentOS/CentOS-5.0
Source: arcmsr.redhat.%{version}.tgz
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root
BuildArch: noarch
Requires: gcc
Requires(post): dkms
Requires(preun): dkms

%description
Driver (Linux kernel module) for Areca RAID Controllers.

%prep
%setup -n arcmsr.redhat.%{version}


%build


%install
%{__rm} -rf %{buildroot}

%define dkms_name arcmsr
%define dkms_vers %{version}-%{release}
%define quiet -q

# Kernel module sources install for dkms
%{__mkdir_p} %{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/
%{__cp} -a arcmsr/* %{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/

# Configuration for dkms
%{__cat}  %{buildroot}%{_usrsrc}/%{dkms_name}-%{dkms_vers}/dkms.conf  'EOF'
PACKAGE_NAME=%{dkms_name}
PACKAGE_VERSION=%{dkms_vers}
BUILT_MODULE_NAME[0]=%{dkms_name}
DEST_MODULE_LOCATION[0]=/weak_updates
AUTOINSTALL=YES
EOF


%clean
%{__rm} -rf %{buildroot}


%post
# Add to DKMS registry
dkms add -m %{dkms_name} -v %{dkms_vers} %{?quiet} || :
# Rebuild and make available for the currenty running kernel
dkms build -m %{dkms_name} -v %{dkms_vers} %{?quiet} || :
dkms install -m %{dkms_name} -v 

RE: [CentOS] Centos Router

2007-09-12 Thread Ken Price
I pretty much left them at the defaults.  I tuned a couple tcp  
settings based on RHEL's best practices guide, but there wasn't any  
noticeable performance impact.




In your configuration did you tune any sysctl settings or leave with
defaults?

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[CentOS] Re: Unable to POST after suspend

2007-09-12 Thread Scott Silva

Mark Rosenstand spake the following on 9/12/2007 9:22 AM:

On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 12:00 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:

I have never had an OS make a machine where a hard reset wouldn't reboot it.


Me neither.

Are you sure that some hardware didn't fail at the same time? Maybe the power 
supply.


Yes.

Does anybody know where ACPI state is stored?
Remove the motherboard battery for an hour or two or short the CMOS jumper 
and see if it wakes up. Otherwise, something is definitely broken.

Maybe an unsupported suspend state fried something weak in the motherboard.


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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Bill Campbell wrote:
 My primary purpose in the original message was to provide feedback from
 somebody who's pretty technical, but not steeped in Red Hat/CentOS.

I have read that book you speak of, it was mildly entertaining -
however, you are quoting that out of context here.

The problem you have is that you used the wrong tool for the wrong job,
busted your own system - and are now looking for something / someone to
blame. Thats fine. We all have a spleen, needs venting sometimes.

Besides that, since you said its all new to you, feel free to hang
around - there is a fantastic knowledgebase here on the list. I am sure
you would be most welcome :)


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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou



I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.

Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
out without noticing this had happened?



If you suspect your box has been rooted, then perhaps it is time to do 
some checking.


rpm -Va

Also, have you ever updated the box?
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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
 My primary purpose in the original message was to provide feedback from
 somebody who's pretty technical, but not steeped in Red Hat/CentOS.

I have read that book you speak of, it was mildly entertaining -
however, you are quoting that out of context here.

The problem you have is that you used the wrong tool for the wrong job,
busted your own system - and are now looking for something / someone to
blame. Thats fine. We all have a spleen, needs venting sometimes.

How was I using the wrong tool when I was testing a kickstart configuration
file in interactive mode, which I figured would be safe as it would allow
me to exit before it wrote on the disk?  I have done similar testing of
autoyast configuration files on many occassions without clobbering
anything.

I would hardly call it venting.  I've made a serious effort not to say some
of the things that come to mind (particularly when I found that not only
had it nuked my hard drive, but also nuked the external USB drive that
happened to be on at the time).  If I were venting, I might make comments
to the effect that if I wanted to run a system that would eat every drive
on the system without asking, I would be running the Microsoft Virus,
Windows :-).

Besides that, since you said its all new to you, feel free to hang
around - there is a fantastic knowledgebase here on the list. I am sure
you would be most welcome :)

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[CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage

2007-09-12 Thread Dennis McLeod
I'd like to start scanning our boxed up documents. I'd say about 30,000
files total.
Mostly to eliminate the boxes of paper we have. 
I'd like to scan them, store them, Have some sort of index, and be able to
retrieve them on multiple machines. I think PDF would be the desired format.
I'd like be able to set some permissions as well. (not a deal breaker...)
I've searched Sourceforge, and have seen knowledgetree, myDMS, contineo,
etc, but really would like to hear from someone that is using something
similar.
Of course, I use Centos, so.
Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Feizhou wrote:

I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.

Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
out without noticing this had happened?


If you suspect your box has been rooted, then perhaps it is time to do 
some checking.

rpm -Va

Unfortunately that isn't much use if you're running the default
system with prelink as it changes large numbers of executables
rendering the RPM verify close to useless.

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Re: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
Depending on how complex a management system you want you could write a small 
custom management system using only a few php files and a db backend (I would 
suggest postgres).

Geoff

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

-Original Message-
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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:08:50 
To:centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage


I'd like to start scanning our boxed up documents. I'd say about 30,000
files total.
Mostly to eliminate the boxes of paper we have.
I'd like to scan them, store them, Have some sort of index, and be able to
retrieve them on multiple machines. I think PDF would be the desired format.
I'd like be able to set some permissions as well. (not a deal breaker...)
I've searched Sourceforge, and have seen knowledgetree, myDMS, contineo,
etc, but really would like to hear from someone that is using something
similar.
Of course, I use Centos, so.
Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou

Bill Campbell wrote:

On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Feizhou wrote:

I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on teh
terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters next
to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.

Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
out without noticing this had happened?

If you suspect your box has been rooted, then perhaps it is time to do 
some checking.


rpm -Va


Unfortunately that isn't much use if you're running the default
system with prelink as it changes large numbers of executables
rendering the RPM verify close to useless.



Eh? I thought it can figure out prelink's activity too? Has something 
changed?

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Bill Campbell wrote:
 How was I using the wrong tool when I was testing a kickstart configuration
 file in interactive mode, which I figured would be safe as it would allow
 me to exit before it wrote on the disk?  I have done similar testing of
 autoyast configuration files on many occassions without clobbering
 anything.

anaconda-kickstart does not have a simulation mode. it might have been
well worth the time to investigate that before trying it out :)
assumption is dangerous. But then I suppose at this stage you might
point to me and say hindsight is an exacting science. Its always easier
to say what one might have or should have done.

virtual machine technology is fairly far along the road to stability,
thats always a good option when testing such stuff.

Also, when you say interactive mode - what exactly do you mean by that
? because Anaconda has two modes, Interactive and Kickstart scripted.
And as already been pointed out, you can skip portions out of the
kickstart ( its quite common to see the drive partitioning logic
commented out so that the person on $console might be able to do that
himself ), and anaconda will ask you about those questions. But you cant
really have a complete interactive install session and also have a
kickstart script running alongside.

 I would hardly call it venting.  I've made a serious effort not to say some
 of the things that come to mind (particularly when I found that not only
 had it nuked my hard drive, but also nuked the external USB drive that

ok thats interesting. by default anaconda should not touch the drives
its not creating partitions on. Unless you expressly tell it to. did
/var/log/anaconda.log, /root/anaconda-ks.cfg, /root/*.log have anything
interesting to say about why it might have nuked that other drive as well ?


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Re: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007, Dennis McLeod wrote:
I'd like to start scanning our boxed up documents. I'd say about 30,000
files total.
Mostly to eliminate the boxes of paper we have. 
I'd like to scan them, store them, Have some sort of index, and be able to
retrieve them on multiple machines. I think PDF would be the desired format.
I'd like be able to set some permissions as well. (not a deal breaker...)
I've searched Sourceforge, and have seen knowledgetree, myDMS, contineo,
etc, but really would like to hear from someone that is using something
similar.

This is not a trivial operation.

I was a principal in a company that developed a Linux based system to do
this about 8 years ago, with a product good enough that it made national
news when Bill Gates' home town of Medina Washington bought a system from
us, not a Windows based system.

The scanning can be done pretty nicely using a scanner with and ADF
(Automatic Document Feeder), and xsane has the ability to number pages
skipping numbers so one can can both sides of two-sided documents in two
passes.  The biggest issue is probably doing the OCR conversion to get text
for indexing.  We used proprietary software from Vividata for this which
worked pretty well.  I haven't looked seriously at gocr or other open
source OCR software for Linux so don't know how well it would work.

I've been using the ReadIris OCR software on Macs recently, which has some
very nice features such as handling multi-page PDF files well.

If I were to tackle this today, I would probably do it using Plone since it
handles things like indexing and organization well.

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RE: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage

2007-09-12 Thread Dennis McLeod
Thanks. I've considered that. It'd be a steep learning curve for me.
I have yet to get the two working together (PHP and a db), although I did
manage to cobble together a php search page for my LDAP server... (I'm an
old MCSE, that only recently converted...)
I'll start reading
Dennis 

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Depending on how complex a management system you want you could write a
small custom management system using only a few php files and a db backend
(I would suggest postgres).

Geoff

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:08:50
To:centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage


I'd like to start scanning our boxed up documents. I'd say about 30,000
files total.
Mostly to eliminate the boxes of paper we have.
I'd like to scan them, store them, Have some sort of index, and be able to
retrieve them on multiple machines. I think PDF would be the desired format.
I'd like be able to set some permissions as well. (not a deal breaker...)
I've searched Sourceforge, and have seen knowledgetree, myDMS, contineo,
etc, but really would like to hear from someone that is using something
similar.
Of course, I use Centos, so.
Thanks,
Dennis



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RE: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage

2007-09-12 Thread Ross S. W. Walker

1) Lease a good copier/scanner that handles large scanning capacity and can scan
to PDF.

2) Get a good batch OCR program that will take an image-based PDF and create a
PDF text overlay (so the PDF can be full-text indexed).

3) Buy a good document management program, preferably one that can do 
drag-n-drop
document sorting/indexing.

You can get all 3 from Ricoh, they have a very good copier/scanner with a
proprietary but easy-to-use document management system (based on FreeBSD) that
is completely web based and completely integrates with the copier/scanner. A
good product for a SMB.

-Ross



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 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:09 PM
 To:   centos@centos.org
 Subject:  [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage
 
 I'd like to start scanning our boxed up documents. I'd say about 30,000 files 
 total.
 Mostly to eliminate the boxes of paper we have. 
 I'd like to scan them, store them, Have some sort of index, and be able to 
 retrieve them on multiple machines. I think PDF would be the desired format.
 I'd like be able to set some permissions as well. (not a deal breaker ... )
 I've searched Sourceforge, and have seen knowledgetree, myDMS, contineo, etc, 
 but really would like to hear from someone that is using something similar.
 Of course, I use Centos, so ... ..
 Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
 How was I using the wrong tool when I was testing a kickstart configuration
 file in interactive mode, which I figured would be safe as it would allow
 me to exit before it wrote on the disk?  I have done similar testing of
 autoyast configuration files on many occassions without clobbering
 anything.

anaconda-kickstart does not have a simulation mode. it might have been
well worth the time to investigate that before trying it out :)
assumption is dangerous. But then I suppose at this stage you might
point to me and say hindsight is an exacting science. Its always easier
to say what one might have or should have done.

virtual machine technology is fairly far along the road to stability,
thats always a good option when testing such stuff.

Also, when you say interactive mode - what exactly do you mean by that
? because Anaconda has two modes, Interactive and Kickstart scripted.
And as already been pointed out, you can skip portions out of the
kickstart ( its quite common to see the drive partitioning logic
commented out so that the person on $console might be able to do that
himself ), and anaconda will ask you about those questions. But you cant
really have a complete interactive install session and also have a
kickstart script running alongside.

The kickstart configuration file and system-config-kickstart tool
have an option for interactive kickstart installations, which I
ass-u-me-d would work much the same way autoyast automatic installs
do where I can abort the installation any time up to the point
where it says start-install, do you really want to do this?

My approach to writing GUI sysadmin tools is to have the GUI
collect the configuration parameters, then execute one or more
command line tools to do the real work.  One of the few things I
really liked about AIX was that their SMIT tool displays the
commands, and logs them as well which can be very useful to
figure out what's going on under the hood.  This is a bit easier
than ``touching'' a file to create a timestamp, doing something
with a GUI tool, the using ``find /etc -newer'' to figure out
what the GUI tool is actually doing.

 I would hardly call it venting.  I've made a serious effort not to say some
 of the things that come to mind (particularly when I found that not only
 had it nuked my hard drive, but also nuked the external USB drive that

ok thats interesting. by default anaconda should not touch the drives
its not creating partitions on. Unless you expressly tell it to. did
/var/log/anaconda.log, /root/anaconda-ks.cfg, /root/*.log have anything
interesting to say about why it might have nuked that other drive as well ?

That could be useful if I hadn't killed the install, only to find
myself with two empty disks without partition tables.

I just finished reinstalling the system, and now installing all
our OpenPKG based software on it.  Doing this, I am reminded of
something worth venting about -- the aliases on rm, mv, and cp to
keep the children from doing dangerous things :-).

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RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Feizhou wrote:
 
  asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
 
  I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below 
  was trouble 
  enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a 
  nat to work 
  with clients outside.
 
  asterisk - nat - sip client.
  
  Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
  work from behind a firewall.
 
 Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is 
 getting the 
 thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If 
 one end is 
 natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if 
 both ends 
 are natted, forget it.

Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.

I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd firewall.

  
  I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
  running any SIP application here yet.
  
  Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
  firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.
 
 asterisk IS a sip proxy.

Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
from/to another larger asterisk system.

That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
work properly with my Polycom system.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm just spit balling (since it has been a good number of years since I've used 
asterix), but why not have two asterix boxes (one your side, one client side) 
connected via aix (you'll have to setup the fw rules to make the aix go to the 
asterix box (on both sides) and just route your call through your nearest box?  
Afaik this capability has been around for a long time, but I've never used aix 
with nat.

Geoff



Cor, you need line wrapping! thunderbird does it for me but on hitting 
reply...


You are assuming that he has access and control to the client site or 
that the client side is an office. I think he has remote roaming clients 
in mind.


The main thing is to eliminate natting so adding a vpn client should fix 
that. That is what I did for my asterisk - nat - nat - sip-client. 
asterisk - vpn - sip-client is far less troublesome.

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Re: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
I guess it boils down to what someone needs out of such a system.  If you're 
looking to store text data from ocr conversion (for searching) then you could 
use a clob column as well as a blob for the image based version.  As for 
storing these in the db, php makes that easy since all file uploads are 
automatically stored in temporary files and it's just a matter of reading the 
contents and storing it in the db.  User rights can be regulated using a 
separate column for the entry.  Basically 6 columns would be all that's needed: 
record id (incrementing integer), a blob, a clob, group access field (I'd 
suggest an integer), date stored, and user who created the record. 

Of course a separate table to convert user logins to what groups they can 
access.

Now if you want to get more elaborate you could add a version column to the db 
so that updates to the record will create another row with the version number 
increased so the original isn't modified (ala subversion, cvs, etc).  Another 
column that stores a Boolean value could be used to store if the record is 
deleted (hidden in reality) or not.

Logins can be stored in the db and an apache mod can be used to use that 
information.

It's really not elaborate in creating the storage part.  It's always the ui 
that is the worst part of any project (both the admin and end user ui), but 
eclipse with struts and tiles or XML and xsl instead of tiles (personally, I 
prefer the xml/xsl approach, but to each their own) can make it less painful.  
I've had rather good experiences with eclipse and the redhat plugin (formerly 
exadel) for working with struts and tiles.

Geoff

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From: Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:26:00 
To:centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Document Scanning and Storage


On Wed, Sep 12, 2007, Dennis McLeod wrote:
I'd like to start scanning our boxed up documents. I'd say about 30,000
files total.
Mostly to eliminate the boxes of paper we have.
I'd like to scan them, store them, Have some sort of index, and be able to
retrieve them on multiple machines. I think PDF would be the desired format.
I'd like be able to set some permissions as well. (not a deal breaker...)
I've searched Sourceforge, and have seen knowledgetree, myDMS, contineo,
etc, but really would like to hear from someone that is using something
similar.

This is not a trivial operation.

I was a principal in a company that developed a Linux based system to do
this about 8 years ago, with a product good enough that it made national
news when Bill Gates' home town of Medina Washington bought a system from
us, not a Windows based system.

The scanning can be done pretty nicely using a scanner with and ADF
(Automatic Document Feeder), and xsane has the ability to number pages
skipping numbers so one can can both sides of two-sided documents in two
passes.  The biggest issue is probably doing the OCR conversion to get text
for indexing.  We used proprietary software from Vividata for this which
worked pretty well.  I haven't looked seriously at gocr or other open
source OCR software for Linux so don't know how well it would work.

I've been using the ReadIris OCR software on Macs recently, which has some
very nice features such as handling multi-page PDF files well.

If I were to tackle this today, I would probably do it using Plone since it
handles things like indexing and organization well.

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

ok thats interesting. by default anaconda should not touch the drives
its not creating partitions on. Unless you expressly tell it to. did
/var/log/anaconda.log, /root/anaconda-ks.cfg, /root/*.log 


Well actually there is the kickstart option 'clearpart --all'.


that is what I meant when I said 'tell it to do that'.


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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
I'm only using the wonderful *bleh* email client that rim put on this 
blackberry.  If anyone knows of a better email client for a blackberry please 
show me the way.

Geoff

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:06:53 
To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm just spit balling (since it has been a good number of years since I've 
 used asterix), but why not have two asterix boxes (one your side, one client 
 side) connected via aix (you'll have to setup the fw rules to make the aix go 
 to the asterix box (on both sides) and just route your call through your 
 nearest box?  Afaik this capability has been around for a long time, but I've 
 never used aix with nat.

 Geoff


Cor, you need line wrapping! thunderbird does it for me but on hitting
reply...

You are assuming that he has access and control to the client site or
that the client side is an office. I think he has remote roaming clients
in mind.

The main thing is to eliminate natting so adding a vpn client should fix
that. That is what I did for my asterisk - nat - nat - sip-client.
asterisk - vpn - sip-client is far less troublesome.
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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh

Bill Campbell wrote:

Unfortunately that isn't much use if you're running the default
system with prelink as it changes large numbers of executables
rendering the RPM verify close to useless.


unless you are using a very old version of rpm, prelink is not a problem


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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou

Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

Feizhou wrote:

asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.

I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below 
was trouble 
enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a 
nat to work 
with clients outside.


asterisk - nat - sip client.

Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
work from behind a firewall.
Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is 
getting the 
thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If 
one end is 
natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if 
both ends 
are natted, forget it.


Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.


It looks like there is a netfilter sip conntrack module.



I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd firewall.


Man, I stopped playing with netmeeting and gnomemeeting quite some time 
ago while waiting for ekiga to be available to support my video...only 
that you cannot compile the thing on Centos 4 without some major surgery.





I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
running any SIP application here yet.

Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.

asterisk IS a sip proxy.


Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
from/to another larger asterisk system.


You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that. Not much 
dumb downing on that aspect.




That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
work properly with my Polycom system.



Ugh. Is that good luck with the sip conntrack module then?
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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm only using the wonderful *bleh* email client that rim put on this 
blackberry.  If anyone knows of a better email client for a blackberry please 
show me the way.

Geoff

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.


Ah! I failed to notice this line. How about getting a WIFI PDA device 
with sip and email? :^)

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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
So I can enjoy dropped calls as I transfer from one open WAP to the next while 
driving?  Or no service when I'm out in the boonies?  Yeah...  Maybe the day I 
move to nyc and never leave nyc I'll go for a wifi phone, but until then I'll 
stick with my trusty GSM based blackberry that I can take anywhere and still 
use.

Geoff

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:19:08 
To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm only using the wonderful *bleh* email client that rim put on this 
 blackberry.  If anyone knows of a better email client for a blackberry please 
 show me the way.

 Geoff

 Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld.

Ah! I failed to notice this line. How about getting a WIFI PDA device
with sip and email? :^)
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RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Feizhou wrote:
 
 Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
  Feizhou wrote:
  asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
 
  I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below 
  was trouble 
  enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a 
  nat to work 
  with clients outside.
 
  asterisk - nat - sip client.
  Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
  work from behind a firewall.
  Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is 
  getting the 
  thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If 
  one end is 
  natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if 
  both ends 
  are natted, forget it.
  
  Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
  the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.
 
 It looks like there is a netfilter sip conntrack module.
 
  
  I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd firewall.
 
 Man, I stopped playing with netmeeting and gnomemeeting quite 
 some time 
 ago while waiting for ekiga to be available to support my 
 video...only 
 that you cannot compile the thing on Centos 4 without some 
 major surgery.

Well, no it isn't for Netmeeting or Gnomemeeting, but for gatewaying
our internal Polycom conferencing system to our outside bridging
service. When it comes to video conferencing SIP is still in it's
infancy.

  
  I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
  running any SIP application here yet.
 
  Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
  firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.
  asterisk IS a sip proxy.
  
  Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
  asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
  for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
  from/to another larger asterisk system.
 
 You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that. 
 Not much 
 dumb downing on that aspect.

Well yes it's going to need some config, it won't need to know the
full config because it is just going to do a full hand-off to the
internal asterisk server for DID (does sip use DIDs?) routing.

  
  That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
  at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
  work properly with my Polycom system.
  
 
 Ugh. Is that good luck with the sip conntrack module then?

Well, no actually you will probably have better luck then me
because the module was probably written for asterisk behind
a firewall. I was trying to get a proprietary Polycom system
to work which is a little different.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
What nat box are you running?  Cable/DSL modem, Cisco router or firewall, or 
just a plain old home gateway?

Geoff

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:26:05 
To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Subject: RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall


Feizhou wrote:

 Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
  Feizhou wrote:
  asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
 
  I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below
  was trouble
  enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a
  nat to work
  with clients outside.
 
  asterisk - nat - sip client.
  Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
  work from behind a firewall.
  Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is
  getting the
  thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If
  one end is
  natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if
  both ends
  are natted, forget it.
 
  Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
  the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.

 It looks like there is a netfilter sip conntrack module.

 
  I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd firewall.

 Man, I stopped playing with netmeeting and gnomemeeting quite
 some time
 ago while waiting for ekiga to be available to support my
 video...only
 that you cannot compile the thing on Centos 4 without some
 major surgery.

Well, no it isn't for Netmeeting or Gnomemeeting, but for gatewaying
our internal Polycom conferencing system to our outside bridging
service. When it comes to video conferencing SIP is still in it's
infancy.

 
  I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
  running any SIP application here yet.
 
  Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
  firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.
  asterisk IS a sip proxy.
 
  Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
  asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
  for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
  from/to another larger asterisk system.

 You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that.
 Not much
 dumb downing on that aspect.

Well yes it's going to need some config, it won't need to know the
full config because it is just going to do a full hand-off to the
internal asterisk server for DID (does sip use DIDs?) routing.

 
  That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
  at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
  work properly with my Polycom system.
 

 Ugh. Is that good luck with the sip conntrack module then?

Well, no actually you will probably have better luck then me
because the module was probably written for asterisk behind
a firewall. I was trying to get a proprietary Polycom system
to work which is a little different.

-Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Jim Perrin
On 9/12/07, Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Definitely a VERY dangerous option, I would say that that should have been
 clearly stated in the RHEL docs.

This is one glaring area where anaconda could definitely use some
improvement. There's a very distinct lack of 'user-friendly'
documentation, both for install/kickstart options (which does have
*some* documentation)  and the iso building portion, which is
something akin to voodoo where one must read the source to actually
understand what's going on.
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RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What nat box are you running?  Cable/DSL modem, Cisco router 
 or firewall, or just a plain old home gateway?
 
 Geoff


Well I had initially done it on CentOS, but then moved it to Microsoft
ISA as managing both a CentOS and an ISA was becoming a PITA and I
liked how the ISA integrated with AD. Yeah I got GNU gatekeeper to
run on ISA in gateway mode... Much easier to do on CentOS though.

This is on a corporate network with 2 T1 Internet links.


Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 
 Feizhou wrote:
 
  Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
   Feizhou wrote:
   asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
  
   I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below
   was trouble
   enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a
   nat to work
   with clients outside.
  
   asterisk - nat - sip client.
   Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
   work from behind a firewall.
   Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is
   getting the
   thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If
   one end is
   natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if
   both ends
   are natted, forget it.
  
   Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
   the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.
 
  It looks like there is a netfilter sip conntrack module.
 
  
   I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd 
 firewall.
 
  Man, I stopped playing with netmeeting and gnomemeeting quite
  some time
  ago while waiting for ekiga to be available to support my
  video...only
  that you cannot compile the thing on Centos 4 without some
  major surgery.
 
 Well, no it isn't for Netmeeting or Gnomemeeting, but for gatewaying
 our internal Polycom conferencing system to our outside bridging
 service. When it comes to video conferencing SIP is still in it's
 infancy.
 
  
   I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
   running any SIP application here yet.
  
   Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
   firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.
   asterisk IS a sip proxy.
  
   Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
   asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
   for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
   from/to another larger asterisk system.
 
  You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that.
  Not much
  dumb downing on that aspect.
 
 Well yes it's going to need some config, it won't need to know the
 full config because it is just going to do a full hand-off to the
 internal asterisk server for DID (does sip use DIDs?) routing.
 
  
   That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
   at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
   work properly with my Polycom system.
  
 
  Ugh. Is that good luck with the sip conntrack module then?
 
 Well, no actually you will probably have better luck then me
 because the module was probably written for asterisk behind
 a firewall. I was trying to get a proprietary Polycom system
 to work which is a little different.
 
 -Ross
 
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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
 
 Bill Campbell wrote:
  How was I using the wrong tool when I was testing a 
 kickstart configuration
  file in interactive mode, which I figured would be safe as 
 it would allow
  me to exit before it wrote on the disk?  I have done 
 similar testing of
  autoyast configuration files on many occassions without clobbering
  anything.
 
 anaconda-kickstart does not have a simulation mode. it might have been
 well worth the time to investigate that before trying it out :)
 assumption is dangerous. But then I suppose at this stage you might
 point to me and say hindsight is an exacting science. Its 
 always easier
 to say what one might have or should have done.
 
 virtual machine technology is fairly far along the road to stability,
 thats always a good option when testing such stuff.
 
 Also, when you say interactive mode - what exactly do you mean by that
 ? because Anaconda has two modes, Interactive and Kickstart scripted.
 And as already been pointed out, you can skip portions out of the
 kickstart ( its quite common to see the drive partitioning logic
 commented out so that the person on $console might be able to do that
 himself ), and anaconda will ask you about those questions. 
 But you cant
 really have a complete interactive install session and also have a
 kickstart script running alongside.
 
  I would hardly call it venting.  I've made a serious effort 
 not to say some
  of the things that come to mind (particularly when I found 
 that not only
  had it nuked my hard drive, but also nuked the external USB 
 drive that
 
 ok thats interesting. by default anaconda should not touch the drives
 its not creating partitions on. Unless you expressly tell it to. did
 /var/log/anaconda.log, /root/anaconda-ks.cfg, /root/*.log 
 have anything
 interesting to say about why it might have nuked that other 
 drive as well ?

Well actually there is the kickstart option 'clearpart --all'.

If one specifies a 'clearpart -all' without specifying which drives then
I believe the result is all partitions from all drives.

Definitely a VERY dangerous option, I would say that that should have been
clearly stated in the RHEL docs.

Agreed!  Furthermore, I don't think that system-config-kickstart provides
any options to selectively clear partitions.

Perhaps it would have been safer had I specified a particular drive in the
partitioning section.

I can sympathise with your situation Bill, but one should test carefully
these scripted installs first either on a Xen VM or VMware VM, or on a
bare-bones system that hasn't been customized yet.

Fortunately this machine was pretty bare-bones, and won't be installed at
our customer's until next Tuesday.  It cost me about a half-day though in
reconsructing things, and can be considered a learning experience.

The external drive was a copy of another external that I had to make as it
originally had an xfs file system (which I was surprised to find that
CentOS doesn't support by default as I've been using for several years on
SuSE systems).

I don't mean to be harping on SuSE, it's just that's what I've been working
with primarily for the last six years or so, and it's what I know best.  If
I were moving from CentOS/Red Hat to SuSE, I would probably be surprised by
things they support and SuSE doesn't.

Two things that I found different that affects our systems the most are (a)
lack of support for xfs and jfs file systems, and (b) lack of support for
ieee1394 external disks.

I've dabbled in gentoo, and ubuntu, but far prefer RPM based systems as
that's what I've used since I stared doing serious Linux work about 12
years ago.  I'm not an acolyte of the Church of GNU, and get turned off a
bit by the religious ferver of the GNU/Linux crowd.

If you want a descructive install may I recommend at least using
'clearpart --linux' which only wipes Linux partitions.

That wouldn't have saved the external drive as that had an ext3 Linux file
system.

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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
Why not put a second ethernet card in the ISA connected directly to the asterix 
server and have all inbound and outbound sip calls through it?  You could then 
preserve the IP addresses for both your internal and external addresses.  You 
wouldn't even have to nat to the asterix box since the ISA server could handle 
the routing and obviously if the source or dest is an internal IP then the 
packet gets sent to the internal interface and vice versa.

Geoff



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-Original Message-
From: Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:46:39 
To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Subject: RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What nat box are you running?  Cable/DSL modem, Cisco router
 or firewall, or just a plain old home gateway?

 Geoff


Well I had initially done it on CentOS, but then moved it to Microsoft
ISA as managing both a CentOS and an ISA was becoming a PITA and I
liked how the ISA integrated with AD. Yeah I got GNU gatekeeper to
run on ISA in gateway mode... Much easier to do on CentOS though.

This is on a corporate network with 2 T1 Internet links.


Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

 Feizhou wrote:
 
  Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
   Feizhou wrote:
   asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
  
   I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below
   was trouble
   enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a
   nat to work
   with clients outside.
  
   asterisk - nat - sip client.
   Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
   work from behind a firewall.
   Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is
   getting the
   thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If
   one end is
   natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if
   both ends
   are natted, forget it.
  
   Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
   the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.
 
  It looks like there is a netfilter sip conntrack module.
 
  
   I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd
 firewall.
 
  Man, I stopped playing with netmeeting and gnomemeeting quite
  some time
  ago while waiting for ekiga to be available to support my
  video...only
  that you cannot compile the thing on Centos 4 without some
  major surgery.

 Well, no it isn't for Netmeeting or Gnomemeeting, but for gatewaying
 our internal Polycom conferencing system to our outside bridging
 service. When it comes to video conferencing SIP is still in it's
 infancy.

  
   I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
   running any SIP application here yet.
  
   Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
   firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.
   asterisk IS a sip proxy.
  
   Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
   asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
   for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
   from/to another larger asterisk system.
 
  You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that.
  Not much
  dumb downing on that aspect.

 Well yes it's going to need some config, it won't need to know the
 full config because it is just going to do a full hand-off to the
 internal asterisk server for DID (does sip use DIDs?) routing.

  
   That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
   at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
   work properly with my Polycom system.
  
 
  Ugh. Is that good luck with the sip conntrack module then?

 Well, no actually you will probably have better luck then me
 because the module was probably written for asterisk behind
 a firewall. I was trying to get a proprietary Polycom system
 to work which is a little different.

 -Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Akemi Yagi
On 9/12/07, Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Two things that I found different that affects our systems the most are (a)
 lack of support for xfs and jfs file systems, and (b) lack of support for
 ieee1394 external disks.

These are all supported in the centosplus kernel:

http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories/CentOSPlus

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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
Unfortunately that isn't much use if you're running the default
system with prelink as it changes large numbers of executables
rendering the RPM verify close to useless.

unless you are using a very old version of rpm, prelink is not a problem

There are still a metric tonne of S.5... lines when doing ``rpm -V''

I just ran a script now that checks all packages on a fresh
install of Centos 5, x86_64 with all updates applied.  This
should be pretty clean on a new install, but ``wc'' on the output
returns ``45031  100197 2608718''.  Over 45,000 lines of output
is a bit much on a new system.

Running ``fgrep S.5 filename | grep '/usr/bin/' | wc'' returns
446 files that fail verification in just the /usr/bin directory.

This is on a system without prelink, and hasn't been up long
enough for cron to have run it in any case.  My guess is that it
has something to do with the way CentOS handles 64 bit packaging.
It appears that it's installing i386 and x86_64 versions of
packages.  ``rpm -qa | sort | uniq -c'' shows 337 packages with
the duplicate names.

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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread gjgowey
I hate to reply to my own reply but...  I meant third ethernet card, not second.

Geoff

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:01:20 
To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall


Why not put a second ethernet card in the ISA connected directly to the asterix 
server and have all inbound and outbound sip calls through it?  You could then 
preserve the IP addresses for both your internal and external addresses.  You 
wouldn't even have to nat to the asterix box since the ISA server could handle 
the routing and obviously if the source or dest is an internal IP then the 
packet gets sent to the internal interface and vice versa.

Geoff



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-Original Message-
From: Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:46:39 
To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Subject: RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What nat box are you running?  Cable/DSL modem, Cisco router
 or firewall, or just a plain old home gateway?

 Geoff


Well I had initially done it on CentOS, but then moved it to Microsoft
ISA as managing both a CentOS and an ISA was becoming a PITA and I
liked how the ISA integrated with AD. Yeah I got GNU gatekeeper to
run on ISA in gateway mode... Much easier to do on CentOS though.

This is on a corporate network with 2 T1 Internet links.


Ross S. W. Walker wrote:

 Feizhou wrote:
 
  Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
   Feizhou wrote:
   asterisk - nat - nat - sip client = big pain in the neck.
  
   I have never managed to get this to work. Getting the below
   was trouble
   enough. Forget about trying to get an asterisk box behind a
   nat to work
   with clients outside.
  
   asterisk - nat - sip client.
   Yes, you will need a specific SIP iptables filter for this to
   work from behind a firewall.
   Getting it to work with a firewall is not a problem...it is
   getting the
   thing to work with a natting firewall that is the problem. If
   one end is
   natted, you can still do some tricks to get it to work but if
   both ends
   are natted, forget it.
  
   Well that was the idea behind the ipfilter stuff. It will change
   the IPs in the protocol stream to compensate for the NAT.
 
  It looks like there is a netfilter sip conntrack module.
 
  
   I face the same problem trying to do H.323 behind a NAT'd
 firewall.
 
  Man, I stopped playing with netmeeting and gnomemeeting quite
  some time
  ago while waiting for ekiga to be available to support my
  video...only
  that you cannot compile the thing on Centos 4 without some
  major surgery.

 Well, no it isn't for Netmeeting or Gnomemeeting, but for gatewaying
 our internal Polycom conferencing system to our outside bridging
 service. When it comes to video conferencing SIP is still in it's
 infancy.

  
   I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
   running any SIP application here yet.
  
   Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
   firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.
   asterisk IS a sip proxy.
  
   Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
   asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
   for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
   from/to another larger asterisk system.
 
  You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that.
  Not much
  dumb downing on that aspect.

 Well yes it's going to need some config, it won't need to know the
 full config because it is just going to do a full hand-off to the
 internal asterisk server for DID (does sip use DIDs?) routing.

  
   That is the setup I had to do with GNU gatekeeper and H.323 since
   at the time I wasn't able to get the ipfilter h.323 filter to
   work properly with my Polycom system.
  
 
  Ugh. Is that good luck with the sip conntrack module then?

 Well, no actually you will probably have better luck then me
 because the module was probably written for asterisk behind
 a firewall. I was trying to get a proprietary Polycom system
 to work which is a little different.

 -Ross

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Re: [CentOS] Kickstart install surprise

2007-09-12 Thread Akemi Yagi
On 9/12/07, Akemi Yagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/12/07, Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Two things that I found different that affects our systems the most are (a)
  lack of support for xfs and jfs file systems, and (b) lack of support for
  ieee1394 external disks.

Like there is pacman for SuSE, there are several repositories you may
want to add to your yum repo list.  See the wiki for details:

http://wiki.centos.org/Repositories

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RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I hate to reply to my own reply but...  I meant third 
 ethernet card, not second.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Why not put a second ethernet card in the ISA connected 
  directly to the asterix server and have all inbound and 
  outbound sip calls through it?  You could then preserve the 
  IP addresses for both your internal and external addresses.  
  You wouldn't even have to nat to the asterix box since the 
  ISA server could handle the routing and obviously if the 
  source or dest is an internal IP then the packet gets sent to 
  the internal interface and vice versa.
 

Damn top-posting is killing the thread, you may want to try
the gmail client for the BB. It's getting a little OT now so
let me add:

Well actually I am using GNU Gk as I'm still on H.323 not SIP,
but same thing really (besides being a completely different
protocol).

I would have put it in the DMZ, but for this application it
didn't really pay to have a whole other box, the internal
GNU Gk is in a VM. I suppose I could have created a vlan to
the VM and put that in the DMZ, but vlans with shared VM
ports requires 802.1q support on the VM guests and it just
keeps getting more and more complex from there.

-Ross


 
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 From: Ross S. W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:46:39 
 To:CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
 Subject: RE: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What nat box are you running?  Cable/DSL modem, Cisco router
  or firewall, or just a plain old home gateway?
 
  Geoff
 
 
 Well I had initially done it on CentOS, but then moved it to Microsoft
 ISA as managing both a CentOS and an ISA was becoming a PITA and I
 liked how the ISA integrated with AD. Yeah I got GNU gatekeeper to
 run on ISA in gateway mode... Much easier to do on CentOS though.
 
 This is on a corporate network with 2 T1 Internet links.
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Unable to POST after suspend

2007-09-12 Thread Alain Spineux
I got problems with some DELL Poweregde server long time ago.
Running hwclock command was crashing the server and sometime, this
happened 2 times
the server was not rebooting anymore, we had to replace the motherboard.
Maybe some critical NVRAM region were corrupted by the suspend.

Try to contact your hardware support :-)

On 9/12/07, Mark Rosenstand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 12:00 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
  I have never had an OS make a machine where a hard reset wouldn't reboot it.

 Me neither.

  Are you sure that some hardware didn't fail at the same time? Maybe the 
  power
  supply.

 Yes.

 Does anybody know where ACPI state is stored?

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Re: [CentOS] apche vhosts ldap

2007-09-12 Thread Sunet Sysadmin




Indran D Govender wrote:


On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 12:58 +1000, Sunet Sysadmin wrote:
 


Hi all,
i am building a web server on centos version 4 running
httpd-2.0.52
mysql

we have a ldap server on the network which has got all the vhost 
details. so  i am trying to pull vhost details from the ldap server 
could not find module vhosts ldap for centos. can some one please point 
me in the right direction any help is much appreciated.


   

You could have a look at 


http://modldapcfg.bayour.com/
 

had a look. the concept is exactly what i want to do but the driver is a 
deb pakage rather than an rpm based.


 


cheers
phani


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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou



I know of an H.323 filter, but haven't explored SIP as we aren't
running any SIP application here yet.

Another possibility would be a SIP proxy installed on the
firewall, but it is not as secure as a filter.

asterisk IS a sip proxy.

Yes, well what I was hinting at was a dumbed-down install of
asterisk installed ON the firewall that would be responsible
for handing off calls coming in to and out of the network
from/to another larger asterisk system.
You still have to setup the sip configuration to handle that. 
Not much 
dumb downing on that aspect.


Well yes it's going to need some config, it won't need to know the
full config because it is just going to do a full hand-off to the
internal asterisk server for DID (does sip use DIDs?) routing.



It still needs a full SIP config. Just not the other stuff like voice 
menus, voicemail or what not.

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Re: [CentOS] ASTERISK BOX behind a filewall

2007-09-12 Thread Feizhou

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So I can enjoy dropped calls as I transfer from one open WAP to the next while 
driving?  Or no service when I'm out in the boonies?  Yeah...  Maybe the day I 
move to nyc and never leave nyc I'll go for a wifi phone, but until then I'll 
stick with my trusty GSM based blackberry that I can take anywhere and still 
use.



Take it easy. It was a joke. :-p


Ah! I failed to notice this line. How about getting a WIFI PDA device
with sip and email? :^)


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[CentOS] hardware raid vs fake raid

2007-09-12 Thread Tom Diehl

Hi,

Does anyone know how  I can find out if an ibm serveraid 8k sas storage
controller (zero channel RAID) is a real hardware RAID controller and
supported in the standard CentOs kernel or is it a fake raid controller.
I am trying to decide if I should get the serveraid controller or go get
a 3ware controller.

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Re: [CentOS] yum proxy username with @ character

2007-09-12 Thread umair shakil
Dear David,

In my understanding, you are trying to say that; yum not running or updating
because you are behind the proxy

yum i suppose uses HTTP method, user name and passwd will be provided in the
browser.


Regards,

Umair Shakil
ETD

On 9/12/07, David Toman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dear Umair,
 the issue is that I have got no access to the proxy configuration, it is
 simply there :-)

 I have spent another day with searching but no success yet.

 Regards,
 David

 umair shakil wrote:

 Dear David,

 Why dont u bypass this sytem from proxy, or use some transparent
 proxy.

 Regards,

 Umair Shakil
 ETD

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  Hi,
  I am having problem with setting up the proxy for yum correctly. I have
  got no influence on proxy policy or authentication methods. The proxy
  username contains the '@' character.
  My question is if there is any way how to enter the username correctly
  into the yum.conf. I tried many ways but has not been successful yet.
 
  Many thanks,
  David
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Re: [CentOS] Very strange problem i have faced in my 2 years carrier

2007-09-12 Thread umair shakil
Dear Feizhou Salam!!!

Well, when i first installed the machine its been alomost 9 months back, i
updated
the system using yum update.

Regards,

Umair Shakil
ETD

On 9/13/07, Feizhou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I have seen vi do this action when it didn't understand a keycode on
 teh
  terminal you are using properly... change the case of a few letters
 next
  to the cursor.  But IIRC that was busybox vi.
 
  Is it crazy to propose someone opened /etc/passwd in vi, and saved it
  out without noticing this had happened?
 

 If you suspect your box has been rooted, then perhaps it is time to do
 some checking.

 rpm -Va

 Also, have you ever updated the box?
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