Re: [CentOS-docs] Samba

2008-09-02 Thread Will F.
Hi guys,

Sorry for being MIA. Catching up on post-holiday (in the US) work. I'll start 
working on the basic howto and throw it up here for review. 

While I agree something like this may be too simple for many of us, I firmly 
believe that a large majority of the people browsing the howto section are 
going to be looking for something real basic. The people who want to deploy 
much larger and complex installations really need to be looking at the main 
documentation of the product, and not some canned solution. I'll go over the 
whole thread and reply where necessary.

If someone else would like to write this basic samba howto up, by all means go 
ahead (but let me know so we both aren't working on it) :)  I'm just throwing 
it up to the docs community.


Thanks!
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2008:0878-03: Low CentOS 2 i386 libxml2 bug fix update

2008-09-02 Thread John Newbigin

The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded to the
centos mirror:

RHBA-2008:0878-03 libxml2 bug fix update

Files available:
libxml2-2.4.19-10.ent.i386.rpm
libxml2-devel-2.4.19-10.ent.i386.rpm
libxml2-python-2.4.19-10.ent.i386.rpm

More details are available from the RedHat web site at
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html

The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches
is to run:
# yum update

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Re: [CentOS-virt] relocation, migration

2008-09-02 Thread Paras pradhan
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Christopher G. Stach II [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]wrote:

  On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Paras pradhan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Hi,
  I am running a cluster having 2 nodes using red hat cluster suite. node
 1
  has a para virtualized guest(centOS)  running under Xen. My question is
 when
  node1 is rebooted, guest is automatically relocated to node 2 . Instead
 of
  relocation, is migration possible in this case which can result in Zero
 down
  time?

 If you're using the xendomains init script, you can set
 XENDOMAINS_MIGRATE in /etc/sysconfig/xendomains.

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Added as:

XENDOMAINS_MIGRATE = ipaddress --live


where ipaddress is the address of the another node in the cluster.


Still relocation is going on instead of migration.


Thanks
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RE: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org

2008-09-02 Thread Julio Martinez
Cuenta conmigo tambien,
Julio Martinez.



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Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org

2008-09-02 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez



Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez wrote:

hola Estimados

la gente de CentOS está valorando la posibilidad, a ver, en realidad es 
que quieren sacar el sitio de CentOS.org en varios idiomas.



bien, buena cantidad de respuestas, eso es bueno, gracias!

En un rato postearé en centos-devel la lista de nombres y emails de los 
interesados, así me indica karan, para darle más fuerza a la propuesta 
de es.centos.org


les comento cuando ya todo comience (si desean pueden suscribirse a 
centos-devel y LEER lo que va sucediendo por esa vía).

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Re: Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org

2008-09-02 Thread Luis Feo
 Inmensamente de acuerdo. 

Luis J. Feo M.



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 Cuenta conmigo!
 
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  Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez wrote:
 
  hola Estimados
 
  la gente de CentOS está valorando la posibilidad, a ver, en realidad es
  que quieren sacar el sitio de CentOS.org en varios idiomas.
 
  bien, buena cantidad de respuestas, eso es bueno, gracias!
 
  En un rato postearé en centos-devel la lista de nombres y emails de los
  interesados, así me indica karan, para darle más fuerza a la propuesta
 de
  es.centos.org
 
  les comento cuando ya todo comience (si desean pueden suscribirse a
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[CentOS-es] Mensajes de samba

2008-09-02 Thread Benjamin Pinazo
Hola:
Tengo una duda, espero que alguien de la lista me puede ayudar.

En un servidor Centos 5.0 tengo instalado Samba como servidor de dominio,
autenticando usuarios y algunas carpetas. 
Tengo también instalado Logwatch 7.3 y me reporta todos los días errores
como los siguientes:

 - samba Begin 

 **Unmatched Entries**
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 32641 bytes to
client 192.168.1.104. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 1 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to
client 192.168.1.101. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 1 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to
client 192.168.1.103. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 10 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to
client 192.168.1.104. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 2 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to
client 192.168.1.106. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 4 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 4 bytes to
client 192.168.1.108. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 1 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:read_data(534)  read_data: read failure for 55384 bytes to
client 192.168.1.106. Error = Conexión reinicializada por la máquina
remota : 1 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(769)  Error writing 75 bytes to client. -1.
(Tubería rota) : 16 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:write_data(562)  write_data: write failure in writing to
client 192.168.1.101. Error Tubería rota : 1 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:write_data(562)  write_data: write failure in writing to
client 192.168.1.103. Error Tubería rota : 7 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:write_data(562)  write_data: write failure in writing to
client 192.168.1.104. Error Tubería rota : 3 Time(s)
 lib/util_sock.c:write_data(562)  write_data: write failure in writing to
client 192.168.1.106. Error Tubería rota : 5 Time(s)
 libsmb/nmblib.c:send_udp(791)  Packet send failed to 192.168.1.108(138)
ERRNO=Operación no permitida : 3 Time(s)
 smbd/service.c:make_connection(1191)  et04 (192.168.1.104) couldn't find
service  : 2 Time(s)

 -- samba End -
 


Alguien sabe si estos errores son normales, o tengo que preocuparme??

No se si está relacionado o no?, pero alguna vez me ha pasado que accediendo
a un fichero de texto del servidor con TextPad a través de un cliente
Windows, al modificarlo y guardarlo se me queda cortado a mitad.
Posiblemente sea un error de escritura.
Con Excel me ha dicho que no se ha podido guardar, pero como la información
se mantiene en un temporal, espero un rato y vuelvo a guardar sin problemas.

Si alguien me da algún consejo para saber lo que pasa se lo agradecería.

Un saludo,
Benjamín Pinazo

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Re: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos

2008-09-02 Thread moncho
Nadie con conocimiento de cluster bajo centos?



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De: moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Enviado: lunes, 1 de septiembre, 2008 11:35:24
Asunto: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos


Hola lista,
Soy nuevo en la lista, ya he usado centos para otras aplicaciones, pero ahora 
me quiero proponer usarlo en un cluster de 4 equipos, pero nunca he tenido la 
oportunidad de aprender de alguien o a través de algún cursillo, por lo que me 
quiero remangar las mangas para hacerlo yo solo.

Primero necesito me indiquen el hardaware necesario para un cluster de alta 
disponibilidad y balanceo de carga.
Segundo las herramientas necesarias para esto

Ya he revisado las guías de red hat respecto a la suite, y me gustaría saber de 
las experiencias de ustedes.
Tengo 4 equipos para usarlos en este cluster como no hay más plata no se me 
ocurre un SAN o algo por el estilo, por lo que la información deber ser 
compartida entre todos los nodos.

En principio es mi primera vez en probar, por lo tanto no tengo ni idea de como 
empezar.

Saludes cordiales y espero que puedan compartir sus experiencias 

moncho


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[CentOS-es] no bootea dvd centos

2008-09-02 Thread moncho
Me he bajado el dvd de Centos 5.2 vía torrent, lo quemo con nero, pero a la 
hora de probarlo no bootea

Hay algo especial que se debe hacer a la hora de quemarlo?



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Re: [CentOS-es] no bootea dvd centos

2008-09-02 Thread O. T. Suarez
hola.

2008/9/2 moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Me he bajado el dvd de Centos 5.2 vía torrent, lo quemo con nero, pero a la
 hora de probarlo no bootea

 Hay algo especial que se debe hacer a la hora de quemarlo?
quemar como imagen debiera ser suficiente.
otra cosa, bajarte el checksum md5 y comprobar que el dvd te bajo bien.
esto seria obvio pero te asegurastes de que el bios tiene habilitada
la opcion de botear por cd/dvd? (yo se la deshabilito a veces para
ganar tiempo cuando inicio).
sls
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Re: [CentOS-es] no bootea dvd centos

2008-09-02 Thread moncho
He hecho todo lo que me han indicado, lo quemaré a la velocidad más baja que se 
pueda, además quiero probar esa nota de maquinas virtuales, por lo que quiero 
instalarlo en un equipo winxp. luego les cuento si funca.


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Re: [CentOS-es] no bootea dvd centos

2008-09-02 Thread Gino Francisco Alania Hurtado

quemalo como archivo imagen y no como archivo de datos

slds

moncho escribió:
Me he bajado el dvd de Centos 5.2 vía torrent, lo quemo con nero, pero 
a la hora de probarlo no bootea


Hay algo especial que se debe hacer a la hora de quemarlo?



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Re: [CentOS-es] no bootea dvd centos

2008-09-02 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On 9/2/08, moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Me he bajado el dvd de Centos 5.2 vía torrent, lo quemo con nero, pero a la
 hora de probarlo no bootea

 Hay algo especial que se debe hacer a la hora de quemarlo?
Prueba a verificar el digest SHA1SUM o MD5, a veces el Torrent me ha
dado malas descargas.


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Re: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos

2008-09-02 Thread moncho
Tengo entendido que Red Hat tien una suite para cluster y centos tambien lo 
trae, por eso me gustaría saber si alguien a usado esta suite.



- Mensaje original 
De: Martin Peirano Facal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Enviado: martes, 2 de septiembre, 2008 12:17:47
Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos


En si, según mi experiencia no es fácil encontrar mucha gente con experiencia 
en clusters, te comento por que en algún momento intente hacer algo.
Te recomiendo ir a alguna lista de linux no de la distro en si donde vas a 
correrlo, en una lista de linux general te pueden aclarar muchas cosas y luego 
tu buscar por dudas en particular al implementarlo en Centos.

Martin


2008/9/2 moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nadie con conocimiento de cluster bajo centos?



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De: moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: centos-es@centos.org
Enviado: lunes, 1 de septiembre, 2008 11:35:24
Asunto: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos



Hola lista,
Soy nuevo en la lista, ya he usado centos para otras aplicaciones, pero ahora 
me quiero proponer usarlo en un cluster de 4 equipos, pero nunca he tenido la 
oportunidad de aprender de alguien o a través de algún cursillo, por lo que me 
quiero remangar las mangas para hacerlo yo solo.

Primero necesito me indiquen el hardaware necesario para un cluster de alta 
disponibilidad y balanceo de carga.
Segundo las herramientas necesarias para esto

Ya he revisado las guías de red hat respecto a la suite, y me gustaría saber de 
las experiencias de ustedes.
Tengo 4 equipos para usarlos en este cluster como no hay más plata no se me 
ocurre un SAN o algo por el estilo, por lo que la información deber ser 
compartida entre todos los nodos.

En principio es mi primera vez en probar, por lo tanto no tengo ni idea de como 
empezar.

Saludes cordiales y espero que puedan compartir sus experiencias 

moncho



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Re: [CentOS-es] no bootea dvd centos

2008-09-02 Thread moncho
Ya me funca, gracias a todos por sus comentarios. Queme el dvd a 2x.

Saludes



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He hecho todo lo que me han indicado, lo quemaré a la velocidad más baja que se 
pueda, además quiero probar esa nota de maquinas virtuales, por lo que quiero 
instalarlo en un equipo winxp. luego les cuento si funca.



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Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org

2008-09-02 Thread Gustavo Pardo
El Tuesday 02 September 2008 09:22:30 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió:
 Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez wrote:
  hola Estimados
 
  la gente de CentOS está valorando la posibilidad, a ver, en realidad es
  que quieren sacar el sitio de CentOS.org en varios idiomas.


También me sumo!

Saludos.
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Re: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos

2008-09-02 Thread Victor Padro
2008/9/2 moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Tengo entendido que Red Hat tien una suite para cluster y centos tambien lo
 trae, por eso me gustaría saber si alguien a usado esta suite.

 - Mensaje original 
 De: Martin Peirano Facal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: centos-es@centos.org
 Enviado: martes, 2 de septiembre, 2008 12:17:47
 Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos


 En si, según mi experiencia no es fácil encontrar mucha gente con
 experiencia en clusters, te comento por que en algún momento intente hacer
 algo.
 Te recomiendo ir a alguna lista de linux no de la distro en si donde vas a
 correrlo, en una lista de linux general te pueden aclarar muchas cosas y
 luego tu buscar por dudas en particular al implementarlo en Centos.

 Martin

 2008/9/2 moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nadie con conocimiento de cluster bajo centos?

 - Mensaje original 
 De: moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: centos-es@centos.org
 Enviado: lunes, 1 de septiembre, 2008 11:35:24
 Asunto: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos


 Hola lista,
 Soy nuevo en la lista, ya he usado centos para otras aplicaciones, pero
 ahora me quiero proponer usarlo en un cluster de 4 equipos, pero nunca he
 tenido la oportunidad de aprender de alguien o a través de algún cursillo,
 por lo que me quiero remangar las mangas para hacerlo yo solo.

 Primero necesito me indiquen el hardaware necesario para un cluster de
 alta disponibilidad y balanceo de carga.
 Segundo las herramientas necesarias para esto

 Ya he revisado las guías de red hat respecto a la suite, y me gustaría
 saber de las experiencias de ustedes.
 Tengo 4 equipos para usarlos en este cluster como no hay más plata no se
 me ocurre un SAN o algo por el estilo, por lo que la información deber ser
 compartida entre todos los nodos.

 En principio es mi primera vez en probar, por lo tanto no tengo ni idea de
 como empezar.

 Saludes cordiales y espero que puedan compartir sus experiencias

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Por mi parte he intentado hacer un cluster en mi laboratorio de casa, sin
embargo por cuestiones de tiempo solo he puesto en marcha varios servidores
CentOS como maquinas virtuales, algun dia de estos levantare el HA que viene
integrado en CentOS, sin embargo, en la lista principal de correo de
CentOS(que esta en ingles) encontraras mucha ayuda, ya que hay varios
usuarios que usan clusters usando Heartbeat, o tal vez si leyeras un poco
mas en los manuales en linea en www.centos.org podria ser que aclararas tus
dudas, ahora segun tengo entendido con cuestion de hardware lo mas
recomendable seria que usaras servidores Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, etc.
que no tengan problemas con incompatibilidad bajo Red Hat que es el upstream
de CentOS, de alguna manera que los servidores tambien tengan similares
caracteristicas en hardware, esto es por ejemplo que sean Xeon con 2Gb de
RAM,  2 discos duros en RAID1(esto es super importante hablando de alta
disponibilidad), dos tarjetas de red intel de preferencia, etc, etc.

Pues solo es una nocion que tengo de ello, como dije antes, no me dedicado
de lleno a levantar un cluster, pero espero en mis proximas vacaciones
hacerlo.

Saludos.

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Re: [CentOS-es] Squid y ftp

2008-09-02 Thread Enrique Rosario

 Ok Gracias. 


-Original Message-
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To: centos-es@centos.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:44:04 -0500
Subject: Re: [CentOS-es] Squid y ftp


Saludos.

1)
Revisa la directiva no cache y combinala con una ACL que identifique el 
trafico FTP

2)
Hasta donde recuerdo squid es únicamente un proxy HTTP con soporte 
limitado para FTP. En otras palabras, hacer uploads FTP y administrar 
carpetas y archivos por FTP no es posible

Tienes entonces dos opciones:

a) permites conexion directa a los FTP que quieres administrar sin que pasen 
por squid y colocas en la lista de sitios que no pasan por el proxy del 
navegador el nombre y/o IP del sitio FTP

b) Implementas un proxy FTP como Frox o ftp.proxy (me da la impresión de 
que son la misma cosa) y usas un cliente FTP y no un navegador como explorer 
(ojo que un cliente FTP y un explorador son dos cosas distintas y funcionan 
muy distinto ante un proxy FTP)

Hasta la proxima.
Carlos.


2008/9/2 Enrique Rosario [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Saludos.
 
Necesito me ayuden en dos cosas.
 
1- Como hacer para que squid no me cachee el contenido de los sitios FTP que 
visito.
2- Como hago para poder subir cosas a un ftp remoto pasando como proxy por 
el squid. Con cliente Iexplorer o Firefox.
 

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Re: [CentOS-es] Controlar load.

2008-09-02 Thread O. T. Suarez
Hola:

2008/9/2 Martin - SofPc [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 con
 #cat /proc/loadavg
 sacas el load average
 con #top o #htop (mas lindo) podes saber que proceso esta consumiendo mas
 recuros
 y para scripting con #ps podes saber muchas cosas de los procesos.
Le sumaria el munin:
yum install munin munin-node
y google para las dudas
pero seria cuestion de iniciar el servicio, dejar que recopile un poco
de datos y luego
http://localhost/munin/
El problema es que soluciones de ese tipo hay una cuantas (cacti es
otra muy utilizada).
Pero que te monitoreen una app en particular no conozco ninguna y la
verdad, si la encuentras avisa porque seria muy util.
Yo por lo general resuelvo con el munin, me permite llevar un
historico del funcionamiento del servidor.
Saludos
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[CentOS-es] Quemar CD CentOS en NERO

2008-09-02 Thread Marco Gordillo
Para quemar el CD de CentOS con nero, deberías ubicar el archivo .ISO click
derecho, quemar con NERO y listo.

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[CentOS-es] Sitio de centos en español

2008-09-02 Thread Marco Gordillo
Ernesto que tal, cuenta conmigo para lo del sitio de Centos en español

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[CentOS-es] Ayuda con OpenVPN

2008-09-02 Thread Freddy Angulo
 
amigos necesito su ayuda, he configurado mi server vpn con openvpn en centos 
5, el cual funciona correctamente, el problema que tengo es que necesito crear 
nuevos usuarios, para esto utilizo lo siguiente:
 
sh build-key client1
 
pero luego que genero ese comando me arroja la siguiente respuesta:
 
sh: build-key: No such file or directory
 
saben a que  se debe este error, estare agradecido de sus respuestas.
 
saludos
 


  

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[CentOS-es] FW: Como instalar driver GeForce 6200

2008-09-02 Thread V1CT0R £D£R
Hola ante todo gracias por tu respuesta MArtin como dije he intentado varias 
veces tambien he intentado descargando el controlador de la pagina el 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run lo desempaqueta pero sale un ventanita de 
color azul con un mensaje q esta en ingles diciendo algo que no corresponde con 
la tarjeta y un ok de color rojo, todo esto lo hago desde la consola (terminal)
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Re: [CentOS-es] es.centos.org

2008-09-02 Thread Carlos Hernandez

Cuenta conmigo

Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez escribió:

hola Estimados

la gente de CentOS está valorando la posibilidad, a ver, en realidad 
es que quieren sacar el sitio de CentOS.org en varios idiomas.


Al momento han sacaro fr.centos.org (si te fijas no es totalmente 
igual al www.centos.org y eso ha provocado algunas quejas). Lo que 
hallo más interesante es la posibilidad de tener un foro en español.


Personalmente no tengo mucho tiempo, pero me lancé como Bartolo (el 
que se brinda sólo) a ver si puedo ayudar, pero solicitaría si algunos 
de uds tiene interés en ayudar a implementarlo me lo comuniquen para 
yo pasarle a Karanbir Singh uno de los más populares colaboradores de 
CentOS que está solicitando gente que se brinde al tema.


En principio tengo claro que hará falta gente para crear el sitio, o 
mejor aún para traducir las partes estáticas. Hacer los enlaces a la 
lista en español, en fin todo cuando pueda hacerse sobre el tema.. y 
después irían los foros. Si la cosa va como fr.centos.org sería 
interesante poder separar en foros los temas.


¿Les parece?



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Re: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos

2008-09-02 Thread Walter Cervini
El tema es algo largo como para ayudarte por correo, intenta buscar la
documentacion de centos acerca de GFS, y Cluster Manager, son parte de la
Documentacion de Centos para que tengas la base y reformula la pregunta,
para poder echar una mano.

Saludos

2008/9/3 moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nadie con conocimiento de cluster bajo centos?

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 De: moncho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: centos-es@centos.org
 Enviado: lunes, 1 de septiembre, 2008 11:35:24
 Asunto: [CentOS-es] cluster en centos


 Hola lista,
 Soy nuevo en la lista, ya he usado centos para otras aplicaciones, pero
 ahora me quiero proponer usarlo en un cluster de 4 equipos, pero nunca he
 tenido la oportunidad de aprender de alguien o a través de algún cursillo,
 por lo que me quiero remangar las mangas para hacerlo yo solo.

 Primero necesito me indiquen el hardaware necesario para un cluster de alta
 disponibilidad y balanceo de carga.
 Segundo las herramientas necesarias para esto

 Ya he revisado las guías de red hat respecto a la suite, y me gustaría
 saber de las experiencias de ustedes.
 Tengo 4 equipos para usarlos en este cluster como no hay más plata no se me
 ocurre un SAN o algo por el estilo, por lo que la información deber ser
 compartida entre todos los nodos.

 En principio es mi primera vez en probar, por lo tanto no tengo ni idea de
 como empezar.

 Saludes cordiales y espero que puedan compartir sus experiencias

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Re: [CentOS-es] Controlar load.

2008-09-02 Thread Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez

Solucions Informatiques JM SL wrote:

Hola a todos, resulta que tengo un servidor web con CenOS con varios
dominios alojados en él (+ de 200) y quisiera saber si conocen algún
Es un poco de magia negra y adivinación, combinado con todo lo que 
puedas conocer de Linux y de redes y eso sí unas relaciones sociales 
excelentes porque al menos los enflautes (enojos) que cojo con el 
usuario cuando lo atrapo son fuertes...


sugerencias: leer los logs, analizarlos, conocer cuál es el cliente 
camorrero, mirar los procesos, correr algun rootkit hunter de vez en 
cuando. Herramientas de monitoreo muchísimas (mailwatch, vispan, munin, 
mytop uf sabe dios cuanto) Pero lo importante es saber dónde buscar y 
esto nos tomó años aprenderlo y te garantizo que no hay una receta sino 
te la diera con gusto


eso sí, muchas noches sentado aqui frente a la máquina te ayudará! Te lo 
digo de buena fé y de buena fuente ;-)


Normalmente en los servidores web te topas con maravillas, pero lo más 
tipico:

1- sistemas mal programados y fáciles de invadir por atacantes
2- spammers conscientes o inconscientes
3- programas conejo que se multiplican por error
4- programas y/o BD ineficientemente creadas (mal creados)
5- sistemas operativos no actualizados ni optimizados
6- un sistema que está siendo sobreexplotado por avaricia nuestra o por 
avaricia del usuario (Esto es muy tipico).


uf.. . de todo...todos los días aprendes algo nuevo.
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread nate
Paolo Supino wrote:
 Hi Nate


 3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup configuration screen with
 the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered them in the
 pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart configuration file
 and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the installation
 to a successful completion.

If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

 url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
config does not mean that the installation process will work
with that NIC.

Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with kickstart over
the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
installer.

But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem. Check
the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

nate

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paolo Supino wrote:
  Hi Nate
 

  3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup configuration screen
 with
  the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered them in the
  pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart configuration
 file
  and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the
 installation
  to a successful completion.

 If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

  url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


 Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
 config does not mean that the installation process will work
 with that NIC.

 Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with kickstart over
 the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
 revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
 installer.

 But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
 at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem. Check
 the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

 nate

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Hi Nate

  I found the problem and it was easier than expected ...
The problem seems to be that anaconda has a problem with having a network
card statically configured :-( All I had to do is change the bootproto for
eth0 from 'static' to 'DHCP'. Now it successfully retrieves 'stage2.img'
file from the web server and completes the installation with zero
intervention. For the time being this will do, but I'd rather the clients
have everything configured locally once when installing than accessing the
network for any information they need (this configuration is for a HPC
cluster and every network access decreases performance).






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[CentOS] small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread Paul Bijnens


What is an alternative X window manager, supported by CentOS,
that has very small memory footprint?

I want to avoid twm, because it defaults to interactive placement when
not giving geometry options.  No other requirements.

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Re: [CentOS] small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 11:01 +0200, Paul Bijnens wrote:
 What is an alternative X window manager, supported by CentOS,
 that has very small memory footprint?
 
 I want to avoid twm, because it defaults to interactive placement when
 not giving geometry options.  No other requirements.

Within CentOS there's xfwm. If you're willing to look outside then
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Re: [CentOS] small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread Pintér Tibor

Paul Bijnens wrote:


What is an alternative X window manager, supported by CentOS,
that has very small memory footprint?

I want to avoid twm, because it defaults to interactive placement when
not giving geometry options.  No other requirements.



dwm, fwm, xfce, fluxbox?

ps: your signature is very nice, but... ehh rings a bell?

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RE: [CentOS] small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread Geoff Galitz



I use XFCE for my resource starved environments (cluster simulations using
virtualization environments).  It works well and integrates nicely into the
Centos deployments.

-geoff


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Re: [CentOS] Changing swap resume signature location

2008-09-02 Thread Karanbir Singh

Patrice Guay wrote:

I cannot find the /etc/initramfs-tools directory on my system. Which
package provides it under CentOS 5?



isnt that just mkinitrd on CentOS ?


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[CentOS] Unable to compile mod_jk on Centos 5.2 64-bit

2008-09-02 Thread ankush grover
Hi Friends,

I am trying to compile mod_jk on Centos 5.2 64-bit but I am getting
apxs not found. Whereas apxs is already there on the server

type apxs
apxs is /usr/sbin/apxs


./configure CFLAGS=' -arch x86_64 ' APXSLDFLAGS=' -arch x86_64 '
--with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs

checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c

checking whether build environment is sane... yes

checking for gawk... gawk

checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes

checking for test... /usr/bin/test

checking for rm... /bin/rm

checking for grep... /bin/grep

checking for echo... /bin/echo

checking for sed... /bin/sed

checking for cp... /bin/cp

checking for mkdir... /bin/mkdir

need to check for Perl first, apxs depends on it...

checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl

could not find /usr/sbin/apxs

configure: error: You must specify a valid --with-apxs path


httpd-devel is already installed on this server but still the error persisting.

Installed Packages
httpd.x86_64 2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos. installed
httpd-devel.x86_64   2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos. installed
httpd-manual.x86_64  2.2.3-11.el5_1.centos. installed


Below is the config.log file


This file contains any messages produced by compilers while

running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.



It was created by configure, which was

generated by GNU Autoconf 2.60.  Invocation command line was



  $ ./configure CFLAGS=-arch x86_64 APXSLDFLAGS=-arch x86_64
--with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs



## - ##

## Platform. ##

## - ##



hostname = webserver.example.com

uname -m = x86_64

uname -r = 2.6.18-92.el5

uname -s = Linux

uname -v = #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 18:51:06 EDT 2008



/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown

/bin/uname -X = unknown



/bin/arch  = x86_64

/usr/bin/arch -k   = unknown

/usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown

/usr/bin/hostinfo  = unknown

/bin/machine   = unknown

/usr/bin/oslevel   = unknown

/bin/universe  = unknown



PATH: /usr/kerberos/sbin

PATH: /usr/kerberos/bin

PATH: /usr/local/sbin

PATH: /usr/local/bin

PATH: /sbin

PATH: /bin

PATH: /usr/sbin

PATH: /usr/bin

PATH: /root/bin



/configure CFLAGS=' -arch x86_64 ' APXSLDFLAGS=' -arch x86_64 '
--with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs

checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c

checking whether build environment is sane... yes

checking for gawk... gawk

checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes

checking for test... /usr/bin/test

checking for rm... /bin/rm

checking for grep... /bin/grep

checking for echo... /bin/echo

checking for sed... /bin/sed

checking for cp... /bin/cp

checking for mkdir... /bin/mkdir

need to check for Perl first, apxs depends on it...

checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl

could not find /usr/sbin/apxs

configure: error: You must specify a valid --with-apxs path







cat config.log | more

This file contains any messages produced by compilers while

running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.



It was created by configure, which was

generated by GNU Autoconf 2.60.  Invocation command line was



  $ ./configure CFLAGS=-arch x86_64 APXSLDFLAGS=-arch x86_64
--with-apxs=/usr/sbin/apxs



## - ##

## Platform. ##

## - ##



hostname = webserver.example.com

uname -m = x86_64

uname -r = 2.6.18-92.el5

uname -s = Linux

uname -v = #1 SMP Tue Jun 10 18:51:06 EDT 2008



/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown

/bin/uname -X = unknown



/bin/arch  = x86_64

/usr/bin/arch -k   = unknown

/usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown

/usr/bin/hostinfo  = unknown

/bin/machine   = unknown

/usr/bin/oslevel   = unknown

/bin/universe  = unknown



PATH: /usr/kerberos/sbin

PATH: /usr/kerberos/bin

PATH: /usr/local/sbin

PATH: /usr/local/bin

PATH: /sbin

PATH: /bin

PATH: /usr/sbin

PATH: /usr/bin

PATH: /root/bin











## --- ##

## Core tests. ##

## --- ##



configure:1996: checking build system type

configure:2014: result: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

configure:2036: checking host system type

configure:2051: result: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

configure:2073: checking target system type

configure:2088: result: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu

configure:2134: checking for a BSD-compatible install

configure:2190: result: /usr/bin/install -c

configure:2201: checking whether build environment is sane

configure:2244: result: yes

configure:2309: checking for gawk

configure:2325: found /bin/gawk

configure:2336: result: gawk

configure:2347: checking whether make sets $(MAKE)

configure:2368: result: yes

configure:2563: checking for test


Re: [CentOS] Unable to compile mod_jk on Centos 5.2 64-bit

2008-09-02 Thread Farkas Levente
ankush grover wrote:
 Hi Friends,
 
 I am trying to compile mod_jk on Centos 5.2 64-bit but I am getting
 apxs not found. Whereas apxs is already there on the server

why not use jpackage packages?

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[CentOS] Backup and reinstall a CentOS server

2008-09-02 Thread josh donovan
I've got a CentOS server that crashes due to a bad hard disk. I have got a 
spare disk and need to format and reinstall CentOS from the SERVER CD. Backup 
and reinstall is a major PITA because of some of the customisations that I've 
done e.g. the DNS Server is set to log queries (the default does not do this). 
Any tips on :-

- backing up and reinstalling (is a script available)?
- is the SERVER CD still 4.4?
- Any suggestions on BIND to log queries without SELINUX throwing a fuss?


Thanks for any help!
Josh





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Re: [CentOS] Backup and reinstall a CentOS server

2008-09-02 Thread Jussi Hirvi
josh donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio (2.9.2008 13:42)
 I've got a CentOS server that crashes due to a bad hard disk. I have got a
 spare disk and need to format and reinstall CentOS from the SERVER CD. Backup
 and reinstall is a major PITA because of some of the customisations that I've
 done e.g. the DNS Server is set to log queries (the default does not do this).
 Any tips on :-
 
 - backing up and reinstalling (is a script available)?
 - is the SERVER CD still 4.4?
 - Any suggestions on BIND to log queries without SELINUX throwing a fuss?

This may not be directly useful to you.

As a general strategy, I have been thinking of making / and other important
partitions (if any) raid1 at system install - even when there is no second
disk. Someone just wrote that even the /boot partition can be raid1.

This way it will be easy later to clone the disk. Just bring in a blank
disk, format, add to the raid array and let it sync. :-) Then you would
still have to install grub, if the disk needs be bootable, but that's fast.

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Re: [CentOS] Backup and reinstall a CentOS server

2008-09-02 Thread Marco Fretz
josh donovan wrote:
 I've got a CentOS server that crashes due to a bad hard disk. I have got a 
 spare disk and need to format and reinstall CentOS from the SERVER CD. Backup 
 and reinstall is a major PITA because of some of the customisations that I've 
 done e.g. the DNS Server is set to log queries (the default does not do 
 this). Any tips on :-
 
 - backing up and reinstalling (is a script available)?

If you want to copy the whole server, use cpio. We use this to convert
phys servers to virtual.

find / | cpio -o -Hnewc | ssh -c blowfish remote server cpio -u -i -m
-d -Hnewc

or use the -p switch in cpio for pass-through mode. see the cpio info pages.

You might exclude /dev, /sys/, /proc, etc

 - is the SERVER CD still 4.4?

the one in the web, no. would be difficult to find one... with the cpio
trick you dont need a CD to reinstall. just attach the new HD do the
runnig server...

but, you might want to use cenots 5? my recommendation at all is to do a
fresh cenots 5 install, copy over and merge the configs...

 - Any suggestions on BIND to log queries without SELINUX throwing a fuss?

Is selinux obstructing query log? do you use rndc querylog to turn it on?

 
 
 Thanks for any help!
 Josh
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Re: [CentOS] Backup and reinstall a CentOS server

2008-09-02 Thread Marco Fretz
Jussi Hirvi wrote:
 This may not be directly useful to you.
 
 As a general strategy, I have been thinking of making / and other important
 partitions (if any) raid1 at system install - even when there is no second
 disk. Someone just wrote that even the /boot partition can be raid1.

Yes, the /boot partition can be md raid. But it can't be LVM. We're
using md raid for all server that have no hardware raid controllers.
GRUB can be installed on both drives at the same time, no problem.

 This way it will be easy later to clone the disk. Just bring in a blank
 disk, format, add to the raid array and let it sync. :-) Then you would
 still have to install grub, if the disk needs be bootable, but that's fast.

Good idea and I think it should be no performance problem. But use LVM!
Don't do md raid for each partition you need. Make 2 md raids and put
LVM on the 2nd (first for /boot) and use logicalvolumes for your
partitions...

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Re: [CentOS] Backup and reinstall a CentOS server

2008-09-02 Thread Sergej Kandyla

Marco Fretz wrote:

If you want to copy the whole server, use cpio. We use this to convert
phys servers to virtual.

find / | cpio -o -Hnewc | ssh -c blowfish remote server cpio -u -i -m
-d -Hnewc
  

Also you could use dump\restore utilites

mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
cd /mnt/hdb1
dump -0uan -f - /boot  | restore -r -f -


http://linuxscrew.com/2007/08/13/move-linux-to-another-hard-drive-dump-restore-backup/


  

- Any suggestions on BIND to log queries without SELINUX throwing a fuss?



You could use dns logining.
some example from one of my servers:

options {
.
};

logging {
channel default_log {
   file /var/log/named.log size 5k;
   severity info;
   print-time yes;
   print-category yes;
   print-severity yes;
};
channel more_log {
   file /var/log/named_extend.log size 2k;
   severity info;
   print-time yes;
   print-category yes;
   print-severity yes;
};

category default { default_log; };
category xfer-in { default_log; };
category xfer-out { default_log; };
category notify { default_log; };
category network { default_log; };

category security { more_log; };
category resolver { more_log; };
category client { more_log; };
category unmatched { more_log; };
category database { more_log; };
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RE: [CentOS] small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread John Kordash
 What is an alternative X window manager, supported by CentOS,
 that has very small memory footprint?

 I want to avoid twm, because it defaults to interactive placement when
 not giving geometry options.  No other requirements.

You found twm's 'RandomPlacment' unsuitable?

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paolo Supino wrote:
  Hi Nate
 

  3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup configuration screen
 with
  the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered them in the
  pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart configuration
 file
  and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the
 installation
  to a successful completion.

 If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

  url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


 Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
 config does not mean that the installation process will work
 with that NIC.

 Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with kickstart over
 the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
 revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
 installer.

 But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
 at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem. Check
 the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

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Hi Nate

  After figuring what I was doing wrong (see previous reply ...) I started
going through each of my systems in order to boot them and install CentOS
5.2 on each. For the most part it works, but only for the most part? Because
once in a few boots (not machine specific) anaconda stops and either asks me
what interface it needs to configure or fails to load 'stage2.img' from the
web server on 192.168.11.1 ... All cables are good cables. The network
switch is a Cisco 3750G with no configuration) and all the NICs are broadcom
with firmware 3.8.9. Can you throw a guess where the problem might be lying
(I hate inconsistencies)?


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Romeo Ninov



Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Paolo Supino wrote:
 Hi Nate


 3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup configuration
screen with
 the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered
them in the
 pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart
configuration file
 and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the
installation
 to a successful completion.

If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

 url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
config does not mean that the installation process will work
with that NIC.

Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with kickstart over
the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
installer.

But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem. Check
the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

nate

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Hi Nate

  After figuring what I was doing wrong (see previous reply ...) I 
started going through each of my systems in order to boot them and 
install CentOS 5.2 on each. For the most part it works, but only for 
the most part? Because once in a few boots (not machine specific) 
anaconda stops and either asks me what interface it needs to configure 
or fails to load 'stage2.img' from the web server on 192.168.11.1 
http://192.168.11.1 ... All cables are good cables. The network 
switch is a Cisco 3750G with no configuration) and all the NICs are 
broadcom with firmware 3.8.9. http://3.8.9. Can you throw a guess 
where the problem might be lying (I hate inconsistencies)?




Have you check apache logs for something. Check also the server messages
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[CentOS] NFS static ports configuration

2008-09-02 Thread admin
A couple of RHEL5 books I'm reading at the moment suggest port numbers 
above 1024 for statd, lockd, mountd and rquotad (eg 38001-38006 or 
32764-32767) when configuring NFS to work with a firewall.


The default /etc/sysconfig/nfs on CentOS5 however has defaults under 
1024, such as


mountd  892
statd   662
rquotad 875

Is there something security-related going on here that I'm not aware of, 
or some other explanation? Neither text mentions the use of ports under 
1024 at all.


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Paolo Supino wrote:
 Hi Nate


 3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup configuration
screen with
 the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered
them in the
 pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart
configuration file
 and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the
installation
 to a successful completion.

If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

 url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
config does not mean that the installation process will work
with that NIC.

Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with kickstart over
the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
installer.

But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem. Check
the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

nate

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 Hi Nate

  After figuring what I was doing wrong (see previous reply ...) I started
 going through each of my systems in order to boot them and install CentOS
 5.2 on each. For the most part it works, but only for the most part? Because
 once in a few boots (not machine specific) anaconda stops and either asks me
 what interface it needs to configure or fails to load 'stage2.img' from the
 web server on 192.168.11.1 http://192.168.11.1 ... All cables are good
 cables. The network switch is a Cisco 3750G with no configuration) and all
 the NICs are broadcom with firmware 3.8.9. http://3.8.9. Can you throw
 a guess where the problem might be lying (I hate inconsistencies)?


  Have you check apache logs for something. Check also the server messages

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Hi Romeo

  Yes I did, and nothing shows up in either access_log or error_log :-(
I just had a node that stopped asking me for IP configuration (twice) and
only on the second time (checked on the server using tcpdump) did it
actually try to contact the server to retrieve network configuration
continue and it successfully retrieved 'stage2.img' from the web server :-(



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[CentOS] Re: small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread Michael Ekstrand
Paul Bijnens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 What is an alternative X window manager, supported by CentOS,
 that has very small memory footprint?

I'm not sure what your standard is for supported by CentOS, but Window
Maker works well and is available from EPEL.

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Re: [CentOS] Backup and reinstall a CentOS server

2008-09-02 Thread admin




Yes, the /boot partition can be md raid. But it can't be LVM. We're
using md raid for all server that have no hardware raid controllers.
GRUB can be installed on both drives at the same time, no problem.

Good idea and I think it should be no performance problem. But use LVM!
Don't do md raid for each partition you need. Make 2 md raids and put
LVM on the 2nd (first for /boot) and use logicalvolumes for your
partitions...


I believe that if /boot is on RAID1, that md partition has to be on one 
of the first two disks (eg hda, hdb)?


Is there any problem with having /boot on a RAID1 partition across 4 
disks as follows?


/boot   / (LVM)
hda RAID1   RAID5
hdb RAID1   RAID5
hdc RAID1   RAID5
hdd RAID1   RAID5

What about swap? It is best on RAID1, RAID5, LVM, something else or 
doesn't matter?


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Romeo Ninov



Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Paolo Supino wrote:
Hi Nate
   

3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup
configuration
   screen with
the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered
   them in the
pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart
   configuration file
and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the
   installation
to a successful completion.

   If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


   Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
   config does not mean that the installation process will work
   with that NIC.

   Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with
kickstart over
   the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
   revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
   installer.

   But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
   at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem.
Check
   the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

   nate

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Hi Nate

 After figuring what I was doing wrong (see previous reply
...) I started going through each of my systems in order to
boot them and install CentOS 5.2 on each. For the most part it
works, but only for the most part? Because once in a few boots
(not machine specific) anaconda stops and either asks me what
interface it needs to configure or fails to load 'stage2.img'
from the web server on 192.168.11.1 http://192.168.11.1
http://192.168.11.1 ... All cables are good cables. The
network switch is a Cisco 3750G with no configuration) and all
the NICs are broadcom with firmware 3.8.9. http://3.8.9.
http://3.8.9. Can you throw a guess where the problem might
be lying (I hate inconsistencies)?


Have you check apache logs for something. Check also the server
messages

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Hi Romeo

  Yes I did, and nothing shows up in either access_log or error_log :-(
I just had a node that stopped asking me for IP configuration (twice) 
and only on the second time (checked on the server using tcpdump) did 
it actually try to contact the server to retrieve network 
configuration continue and it successfully retrieved 'stage2.img' from 
the web server :-(


Paolo, what about DHCP or bootp servers. Check the logs, flush ARP cache 
from server(s)

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Re: [CentOS] small window manager

2008-09-02 Thread Paul Bijnens

On 2008-09-02 14:07, John Kordash wrote:

What is an alternative X window manager, supported by CentOS,
that has very small memory footprint?

I want to avoid twm, because it defaults to interactive placement when
not giving geometry options.  No other requirements.


You found twm's 'RandomPlacment' unsuitable?


That's an even better answer.
I did not read that far in the man page yet.
Thanks for pointing it out.


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Paolo Supino  wrote / napísal(a):



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:14 AM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Paolo Supino wrote:
Hi Nate
   

3: After the error comes up I get the HTTP setup
configuration
   screen with
the source website (in IP) and CentOS directory as I entered
   them in the
pxeconfiguration file and as it appears in the kickstart
   configuration file
and all I have to do is press the 'OK' button to continue the
   installation
to a successful completion.

   If that's the case the next most likely culprit is

url --url http://192.168.11.1/source


   Just because the PXE boot loader can download the kickstart
   config does not mean that the installation process will work
   with that NIC.

   Also I've had lots of broadcom systems not work with
kickstart over
   the years, it's not uncommon for newer systems to have newer
   revs of the chipsets and those revs not being supported by the
   installer.

   But it sounds like in your case it does work, so I would look
   at the url above, as it likely is the cause of the problem.
Check
   the http access logs on the server for 404s and similar errors.

   nate

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Hi Nate

 After figuring what I was doing wrong (see previous reply
...) I started going through each of my systems in order to
boot them and install CentOS 5.2 on each. For the most part it
works, but only for the most part? Because once in a few boots
(not machine specific) anaconda stops and either asks me what
interface it needs to configure or fails to load 'stage2.img'
from the web server on 192.168.11.1 http://192.168.11.1
http://192.168.11.1 ... All cables are good cables. The
network switch is a Cisco 3750G with no configuration) and all
the NICs are broadcom with firmware 3.8.9. http://3.8.9.
http://3.8.9. Can you throw a guess where the problem might
be lying (I hate inconsistencies)?


Have you check apache logs for something. Check also the server
messages

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 Hi Romeo

  Yes I did, and nothing shows up in either access_log or error_log :-(
 I just had a node that stopped asking me for IP configuration (twice) and
 only on the second time (checked on the server using tcpdump) did it
 actually try to contact the server to retrieve network configuration
 continue and it successfully retrieved 'stage2.img' from the web server :-(

  Paolo, what about DHCP or bootp servers. Check the logs, flush ARP cache
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Hi Romeo

  The more systems I boot the more I'm starting to feel that it's hardware
problem related ... I just booted a system in which the ELOM says that NIC0
has 1 MAC address, but when I boot the system I saw on the network a
different MAC address altogether ...
  I'm checking at the lowest level: on the wire (using tcpdump) so if
nothing shows in the capture I'm sure I won't find anything in the logs :-(




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RE: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Network autoconfiguration failed, most likely there is not
a compatible driver for the network card in your system.

Paolo,
You are using multihomed systems, I remember a problem with pxe booting
whereby the install switched to the wrong nic and setup may fail as a result.

How are you statring these installs?

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[CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Is there a way to nice the IO on a process such as dd?
If not, what could be a way to control the IO level of
such a process from bogging down a server to severely.

Thanks,
jlc
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[CentOS] CN=Nasreddine Kroun/OU=Benefits/O=Vitech is out of the office.

2008-09-02 Thread Nasreddine Kroun

I will be out of the office starting  09/02/2008 and will not return until
09/04/2008.


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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Joseph L. Casale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Network autoconfiguration failed, most likely there is not
 a compatible driver for the network card in your system.

 Paolo,
 You are using multihomed systems, I remember a problem with pxe booting
 whereby the install switched to the wrong nic and setup may fail as a
 result.

 How are you statring these installs?

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Hi Joseph

  WHat do you mean?




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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

On Sun, August 31, 2008 04:03, Ric Moore wrote:

 On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 10:51 -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

 I've also still got a laptop that's probably older than him.  It runs
 CP/M.

 I once had a pretty large collection of CP/M machines. I had three
 IMSAI's. a VDP-80 and two VDP-44's. I think I had every Televideo ever
 made, including the luggable and the server that ran MP/M. Altos,
 Osborn, and a bunch of others. Man, think of what CP/M could do running
 on a Pentium. grins Ric

I got into the home computing scene late (the systems at work were so much
more powerful and attractive, and it was normal to play with them for
personal use).  But I've still got my very first computer, a DEC VT-180
Robin (a VT-100 terminal with a CP/M board in the card cage, and an
external pair of 5.25 floppies; mine actually has two pair of floppies,
and they've been upgraded to 400kb or some such).

The laptop is an Epson PX-8.  Software resided on PROM chips on little
carriers.  It had a built-in microcassette drive for data storage.

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RE: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
WHat do you mean?

Do you boot from one of the NICS, or a CD, or what?
If you boot from a NIC via a TFTP server, you may be encountering the issue
I describe which simply needs a kernel arg to fix you up.
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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
Joseph L. Casale ha scritto:
 Is there a way to nice the IO on a process such as dd?
 If not, what could be a way to control the IO level of
 such a process from bogging down a server to severely.
 

As I was told few days ago you cold nice the whole process, eg.

nice 19 if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn

This should give all the other process priority over dd

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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Quatrini
Lorenzo Quatrini ha scritto:
 Joseph L. Casale ha scritto:
 Is there a way to nice the IO on a process such as dd?
 If not, what could be a way to control the IO level of
 such a process from bogging down a server to severely.

 
 As I was told few days ago you cold nice the whole process, eg.
 
 nice 19 if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn


Obviously there is a typo...

nice 19 dd if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn
^^

 This should give all the other process priority over dd
 
 Hope this helps
 
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Joseph L. Casale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 WHat do you mean?

 Do you boot from one of the NICS, or a CD, or what?
 If you boot from a NIC via a TFTP server, you may be encountering the issue
 I describe which simply needs a kernel arg to fix you up.
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Hi Joseph

  I boot via NIC0 and my configurations are as follows:
pxe (for node3):
default ks
prompt 0
label ks
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.img ramdisk_size=9216 ksdevice=bootif noapic
acpi=off ks=http://192.168.11.1/kickstart/n03.ks
ipappend 2

kickstart file (for node3):
# Kickstart file automatically generated by anaconda.

install
lang en_US.UTF-8
keyboard us
network --device eth0 --bootproto dhcp --hostname n003.example.com
network --device eth1 --onboot no --bootproto dhcp --hostname
n003.example.com
network --device eth2 --onboot no --bootproto dhcp --hostname
n003.example.com
network --device eth3 --onboot no --bootproto dhcp --hostname
n003.example.com
url --url http://192.168.11.1/source
rootpw --iscrypted ?
firewall --disabled
authconfig --enableshadow --enablemd5
selinux --disabled
timezone --utc Asia/Jerusalem
bootloader --location=mbr --driveorder=sda --append=noapic acpi=off
# The following is the partition information you requested
# Note that any partitions you deleted are not expressed
# here so unless you clear all partitions first, this is
# not guaranteed to work
zerombr
clearpart --all --drives=sda
part /boot --fstype ext3 --size=100 --ondisk=sda
part pv.2 --size=0 --grow --ondisk=sda
volgroup VolGroup00 --pesize=32768 pv.2
.
.
.


If you made it all the way down here ... I did try to put ksdevice=eth0 in
the PXE configuration file, but it only made things worse :-(




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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread nate
Paolo Supino wrote:

   I boot via NIC0 and my configurations are as follows:
 pxe (for node3):

Just to rule it out try plugging in all NICs to the same
switch/VLAN and kickstart again and see if it works better.
Sometimes the NIC detected as eth0 at PXE time is not the
same NIC as at installation time. My systems typically have
both NICs connected to the same switch(for redundancy using
bonding driver) so I often forget about this issue.

If it works then you can adjust the kickstart config's
ksdevice= option to point to the real NIC your system
will use.

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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 Is there a way to nice the IO on a process such as dd?
 If not, what could be a way to control the IO level of
 such a process from bogging down a server to severely.

There is ionice (assuming CentOS-5) in the util-linux package. It's by no 
means perfect but unlike nice it atleast tries to do what you want :-)

Try it out.

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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Sergej Kandyla

Lorenzo Quatrini wrote:

Lorenzo Quatrini ha scritto:
  


nice 19 dd if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn
^^

  

probably

- nice 19 dd if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn
+ nice  -n 19dd if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn

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RE: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I boot via NIC0 and my configurations are as follows:

Yeah, that's what I thought.
Have a look at:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html/Installation_Guide/ch-pxe.html

http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_80_531.shtm

The latter might shed some light. I am thinking you need tweak that a bit.
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RE: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
nice doesn't really do anything with respect to I/O.

Yes I tried it and it never made a diff from one end of
the spectrum to the other:)

The best way to control I/O in this manor is to physically
isolate it from the rest of the system(be it on a different
controller connected to different disks etc).

Well, not always possible!

I am going to try Peter's suggestion of ionice tonight.

Thanks everyone!
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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 16:28 +0200, Lorenzo Quatrini wrote:
 Joseph L. Casale ha scritto:
  Is there a way to nice the IO on a process such as dd?
  If not, what could be a way to control the IO level of
  such a process from bogging down a server to severely.
  
 
 As I was told few days ago you cold nice the whole process, eg.
 
 nice 19 if=/xxx of=/xxx bs=nnn
 
 This should give all the other process priority over dd

Saw the type fix. Just want to mention that the bs= can have a
substantial beneficial effect. By increasing the blocksize to a relative
large value, the number of system and I/O calls is reduced. This *may*
reduce the adverse effects that you see on overall system
responsiveness.

I often use 8192, 16384 and even 8Mb, a cylinder size.

Give it a try. YMMV.

 
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:04 PM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Paolo Supino wrote:

I boot via NIC0 and my configurations are as follows:
  pxe (for node3):

 Just to rule it out try plugging in all NICs to the same
 switch/VLAN and kickstart again and see if it works better.
 Sometimes the NIC detected as eth0 at PXE time is not the
 same NIC as at installation time. My systems typically have
 both NICs connected to the same switch(for redundancy using
 bonding driver) so I often forget about this issue.

 If it works then you can adjust the kickstart config's
 ksdevice= option to point to the real NIC your system
 will use.

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Hi Nate

  It's a nice thing and I thought of doing it, but it's impractical and here
is why: I have 42 systems in this cabinet. Each system as 4 NICs and I only
have 1 48 port switch. If I had the additional switches to stack I would
have done it a long time ago (and I would have sniffed the network to see
where the heck it sending the packets). I checked all the systems that did
install successfully (right now stands at 29) and in all of them the MAC
address of NIC0 matches the MAC address for eth0 in Linux (which makes sense
otherwise the install would have hung up).




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[CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I need to replace a slow HP MSA20 that's a bottleneck right now (We are an HP 
shop).
HP's only option with 3.5 SATA drives is stuck at SATA I behind a SAS 
controller.
Dell makes an MD1000 that claims SATA II speeds behind a SAS Perc 5/E (Don't 
know anything about dell).

Anyone got any real world info they can share? I need 3.5 SATA II at least 12 
drives behind SAS,
I am not concerned about space and could use multiple 1u chassis if I had to.

Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Joseph L. Casale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I boot via NIC0 and my configurations are as follows:

 Yeah, that's what I thought.
 Have a look at:

 http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html/Installation_Guide/ch-pxe.html
 
 http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_80_531.shtm

 The latter might shed some light. I am thinking you need tweak that a bit.
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Hi Joseph

  Since I have 4 NICs in each node the kickstart config file has 4 network
statements (one for each of the NICs). The --device eth0 appears in the
first network statement. The thing that I noticed that is missing in the
eth0 network statement is --onboot=yes (in the others it's --onboot=no).
Do you thing I should remove the other network statements from the kickstart
configuration file?





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Re: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread Rainer Duffner

Joseph L. Casale schrieb:


I need to replace a slow HP MSA20 that’s a bottleneck right now (We 
are an HP shop).
HP’s only option with 3.5” SATA drives is stuck at SATA I behind a SAS 
controller.


Dell makes an MD1000 that claims SATA II speeds behind a SAS Perc 5/E 
(Don’t know anything about dell).


 

Anyone got any real world info they can share? I need 3.5” SATA II at 
least 12 drives behind SAS,


I am not concerned about space and could use multiple 1u chassis if I 
had to.





Promise VTRAK J610sS?

We use it with Solaris and ZFS - I'm not too keen on using LVM on more 
than a handful of disks.
IMO, 16 disks is probably the minimum to get some decent non-linear 
performance out of SATA.


If you have the money, you can go for a SUN J4500 ;-)




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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread nate
Paolo Supino wrote:

   It's a nice thing and I thought of doing it, but it's impractical and here
 is why: I have 42 systems in this cabinet. Each system as 4 NICs and I only
 have 1 48 port switch. If I had the additional switches to stack I would
 have done it a long time ago (and I would have sniffed the network to see
 where the heck it sending the packets). I checked all the systems that did
 install successfully (right now stands at 29) and in all of them the MAC
 address of NIC0 matches the MAC address for eth0 in Linux (which makes sense
 otherwise the install would have hung up).

I think you misunderstood.

Do it once, so you can see which NIC(s) are actually being used.

Then adjust the kickstart config(if needed) to specify the NIC(s)
you want to use.

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[CentOS] Re: Help me

2008-09-02 Thread Scott Silva

on 9-1-2008 10:36 AM Martyn Hare spake the following:

Top is preferred, it's a standard just like it's a standard to put:

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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Paolo Supino
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Joseph L. Casale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I boot via NIC0 and my configurations are as follows:

 Yeah, that's what I thought.
 Have a look at:

 http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.2/html/Installation_Guide/ch-pxe.html
 
 http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_80_531.shtm

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Hi Joseph

   After sending the last reply I fixed the kickstart config files and added
--boot=yes to the network statement of eth0, but going through the consoles
of each of the systems to see if the installation completed successfully I
found a few that got stuck on the network interface configuration screen
(where it asks for IPv4 and IPv6 static/dynamic configuration information:
Configure TCP/IP).





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[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread Scott Silva

snip


This discussion really should be on the classic computers mail list.

Hmmm 2Mhz 8080a vs 3.0Ghz Core 2 duo ... things have changed a bit on
the personal computer side.


But Windows for Workgroups 3.1 really screams on the newer hardware!  ;-P



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RE: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Peter Kjellstrom wrote:
 On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
  Is there a way to nice the IO on a process such as dd?
  If not, what could be a way to control the IO level of
  such a process from bogging down a server to severely.
 
 There is ionice (assuming CentOS-5) in the util-linux package. It's by no 
 means perfect but unlike nice it atleast tries to do what you want :-)

If that doesn't do it for you then maybe choosing a different
scheduler then cfq can help. Something like 'deadline' may
work better for the workload.

AFAIK ionice will only work with the cfq scheduler for now.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread John R Pierce

Ric Moore wrote:

I once had a pretty large collection of CP/M machines. I had three
IMSAI's


ok, now you've done it.

lets play Name that old computer!

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RE: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
If that doesn't do it for you then maybe choosing a different
scheduler then cfq can help. Something like 'deadline' may
work better for the workload.

AFAIK ionice will only work with the cfq scheduler for now.

Appreciate that info, I have just been reading about the difference but
cant say I understand in real life what the difference between deadline
versus cfq is. I will try changing it on the fly and running my tests.

Thanks!
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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread MHR
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Joseph L. Casale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Appreciate that info, I have just been reading about the difference but
 cant say I understand in real life what the difference between deadline
 versus cfq is. I will try changing it on the fly and running my tests.


The CFQ elevator algorithm attempts to be fair to all i/o requests,
without specific regard to performance.  The deadline elevator is more
aggressive in scheduling for minimal latency per device.

For example, if you have one process that is doing more or less random
i/o and another that is doing large block sequential i/o, the deadline
elevator will pander to the latter whereas the cfq elevator will try
to be fair in scheduling the i/os between the processes.

Here's a decent, short write up on them:
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/schedulers/

HTH

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread MHR
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But Windows for Workgroups 3.1 really screams on the newer hardware!  ;-P


For shame!  WfW was 3.11, and it just screams, or did, or so I heard -
never used it.  I stuck with 3.1 until 98 was due out and then,
finally, caved and bought (!) a copy of 95.

In fact, my son is still using 98, but I think I've finally convinced
him to go to XP - I bought him some really neat flash drives that he
really likes but that do not work with 98 at all.  Heh, heh, heh,...

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Re: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Arremann
Hi,

I assume you're talking about the MSA60? We have several of those installed 
and haven't seen any bottle necks there. Even the fastest SATA drives fall 
short of the 150MB/sec max SATA I throughput. And if you could push the 
1.5Gb/sec on the SATA side, then the SAS side with a 4x port (4x3Gb/sec) 
would become your bottleneck. 

Peter.


On Tuesday 02 September 2008 11:23:00 am Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 I need to replace a slow HP MSA20 that’s a bottleneck right now (We are an
 HP shop). HP’s only option with 3.5” SATA drives is stuck at SATA I behind
 a SAS controller. Dell makes an MD1000 that claims SATA II speeds behind a
 SAS Perc 5/E (Don’t know anything about dell). 
 Anyone got any real world info they can share? I need 3.5” SATA II at least
 12 drives behind SAS, I am not concerned about space and could use multiple
 1u chassis if I had to. 
 Thanks!


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RE: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I assume you're talking about the MSA60?

Yup

We have several of those installed
and haven't seen any bottle necks there. Even the fastest SATA drives fall
short of the 150MB/sec max SATA I throughput. And if you could push the
1.5Gb/sec on the SATA side, then the SAS side with a 4x port (4x3Gb/sec)
would become your bottleneck.

Good to know! I think I am actually going to get an MSA50 and go SAS.
The cheaper enclosure affords me the chance to get good drives and if
the need to expand comes I will just get another, it can be cascaded 1+1
and there are two ports on a P800 so I can hook up 4 of the things.

Thanks,
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Re: [CentOS] kickstart problems

2008-09-02 Thread Richard Karhuse
On 9/2/08, Paolo Supino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 :

 Hi Joseph

After sending the last reply I fixed the kickstart config files and
 added --boot=yes to the network statement of eth0, but going through the
 consoles of each of the systems to see if the installation completed
 successfully I found a few that got stuck on the network interface
 configuration screen (where it asks for IPv4 and IPv6 static/dynamic
 configuration information: Configure TCP/IP).


 I've only been half reading this thread, so feel free to ignore this
interruption ...

Just plug one and only one NIC into the switch
Add ksdevice=link to your boot-up line (e.g. syslinux.cfg??).

Configure network (if you must) or just let DHCP take over.

Kickstart away 
(works for me on boxes where during anaconda installation the NICs are
labeled one way,
but CentOS running system does another).

Just a thought ...

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 18:25:10 MHR wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  But Windows for Workgroups 3.1 really screams on the newer hardware!  ;-P

 For shame!  WfW was 3.11,

3.1.1,  IIRC

 and it just screams, or did, or so I heard - 
 never used it.  

I did.  It was better than 95, and better than 98 first edition.

 I stuck with 3.1 until 98 was due out and then, 
 finally, caved and bought (!) a copy of 95.

 In fact, my son is still using 98, but I think I've finally convinced
 him to go to XP - I bought him some really neat flash drives that he
 really likes but that do not work with 98 at all.  Heh, heh, heh,...

USB drives should work without any problem at all, assuming he is using 98SE.

They didn't work in 98 first edition, nor in NT4 or Win2000 - again, from 
memory, which could be faulty.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread MHR
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3.1.1,  IIRC

Nope, 3.11.

 I did.  It was better than 95, and better than 98 first edition.

I was making a joke about WfW screaming.

 USB drives should work without any problem at all, assuming he is using 98SE.

No, the newer generation drives, mostly 1GB and up, explicitly do not
have drivers for 98SE at all.  In theory, one could tweak a
pre-existing driver to handle the extra memory, but in fact, a
Kingston 1GB drive will not work with 98SE.  That's the beauty of
Windows

 They didn't work in 98 first edition, nor in NT4 or Win2000 - again, from
 memory, which could be faulty.

 In Win2k, Micro$oft finally got up to speed and most flash drives
will work with it, but XP is better.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread John R Pierce



For shame!  WfW was 3.11,



3.1.1,  IIRC
  


actually, there was a 3.10 and 3.11 release of Windows for Workgroups.   
The 3.11 release introduced the use of 32 bit protected mode 
implementation of the network stack and file system via extensive use of 
VxD drivers, and set the stage for Windows95 where almost the whole OS 
kernel ran in VxD space (prior versions used 16bit realmode IO 
components from MSDOS).

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Re: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread nate
Joseph L. Casale wrote:

 Anyone got any real world info they can share? I need 3.5 SATA II at least
 12 drives behind SAS,
 I am not concerned about space and could use multiple 1u chassis if I had
 to.

What about this?

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13045_na/13045_na.html

The MSA2000sa is a 2U direct attach, external shared storage
solution designed for small to medium size deployments or
remote locations. It comes in two models - a basic single
controller model for low initial cost with the ability to
upgrade later; and a model with dual controllers standard
for maximum performance. This solution offers a SAS host
nterface to accommodate twelve 3.5 inch enterprise class
SAS drives and archival-class SATA drives. Additional
capacity can easily be added when needed by attaching up
to three MSA2000 12 bay drive enclosures. Maximum raw
capacity ranges from 3.6TB SAS or 12TB SATA in the base
cabinet, to over 14.4TB SAS or 48TB SATA with the addition
of the maximum number of drive enclosures.

This page says it supports SATA II
http://h18006.www1.hp.com/storage/disk_storage/msa_diskarrays/san_arrays/index.html

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 19:10:32 MHR wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  3.1.1,  IIRC

 Nope, 3.11.

You could be right.

  I did.  It was better than 95, and better than 98 first edition.

 I was making a joke about WfW screaming.

  USB drives should work without any problem at all, assuming he is using
  98SE.

 No, the newer generation drives, mostly 1GB and up, explicitly do not
 have drivers for 98SE at all.  In theory, one could tweak a
 pre-existing driver to handle the extra memory, but in fact, a
 Kingston 1GB drive will not work with 98SE.  That's the beauty of
 Windows

Can't argue with you :-)  It does seem likely, as 1GB flash drives wouldn't 
have been a possibility at that time.  I never owned one at all until 
relatively recently.

  They didn't work in 98 first edition, nor in NT4 or Win2000 - again, from
  memory, which could be faulty.

  In Win2k, Micro$oft finally got up to speed and most flash drives
 will work with it, but XP is better.

Fair enough.  Out of curiosity - do they work in W2K out of the box, or 
require some update?  I ask because I'm considering W2K as a 
VM.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread MHR
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Fair enough.  Out of curiosity - do they work in W2K out of the box, or
 require some update?  I ask because I'm considering W2K as a
 VM.


Ya got me there - I /think/ so, but am not sure.

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Re: [CentOS] Control IO related to a process

2008-09-02 Thread Martyn Hare
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:21:31 -0700
MHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Joseph L. Casale
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Appreciate that info, I have just been reading about the difference but
  cant say I understand in real life what the difference between deadline
  versus cfq is. I will try changing it on the fly and running my tests.
 
 
 The CFQ elevator algorithm attempts to be fair to all i/o requests,
 without specific regard to performance.  The deadline elevator is more
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 For example, if you have one process that is doing more or less random
 i/o and another that is doing large block sequential i/o, the deadline
 elevator will pander to the latter whereas the cfq elevator will try
 to be fair in scheduling the i/os between the processes.
 
 Here's a decent, short write up on them:
 http://www.redhat.com/magazine/008jun05/features/schedulers/
 
 HTH
 
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[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread Scott Silva

snip

Can't argue with you :-)  It does seem likely, as 1GB flash drives wouldn't 
have been a possibility at that time.  I never owned one at all until 
relatively recently.



I remember when 1 GB *hard* drives didn't exist!

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread William L. Maltby

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:26 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
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  Can't argue with you :-)  It does seem likely, as 1GB flash drives wouldn't 
  have been a possibility at that time.  I never owned one at all until 
  relatively recently.
  
 I remember when 1 GB *hard* drives didn't exist!

I swear, I'll never use a word like curmudgeon again! Sheesh!

Anyway, 5 and 10 MB HDs were the common PC drives back in the 80s and
90s. 20MB was a *big* one. Seek (average) of  60ms was usual and fast
ones were less than that.

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[CentOS] Re: Anti Virus and Anti Spam

2008-09-02 Thread Scott Silva

on 8-29-2008 7:55 PM horas simalango spake the following:

New be in linux!
Currently I have Install DNS, Email and Web server using centos 4.3.
All functions are running properly!
What anti virus and anti spam recomended for me to install to my
server? What I have to configure after installing anti virus and anti
spam?
Would some one help me please.! Now many spam mail come to user mailbox!

Thank's 'n Regards


Horasima

Look no further then here:
www.mailscanner.info

Very easy to set-up, and very powerful. When you get the feel of the software 
it is very easy to customize, and very efficient for spam and virus detection.


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[CentOS] Re: CentOS 4.7 status

2008-09-02 Thread Scott Silva

on 8-30-2008 6:37 PM Adrian Sevcenco spake the following:

Hi,
i was wondering what is the status of 4.7
Thank you,
Best regards,
Adrian

4.7 was delayed so the buildservers could get 5.2 ready. 4.7 is probably in 
the queue now, but it takes a while because CentOS doesn't have a million 
dollar hardware budget, and has to schedule things to best use the hardware 
available.


When it is ready and synced to the mirrors, it will be announced.

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Re: [CentOS] CN=Nasreddine Kroun/OU=Benefits/O=Vitech is out of the office.

2008-09-02 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Nasreddine Kroun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I will be out of the office starting  09/02/2008 and will not return until
 09/04/2008.

Cool. Please do not put an auto responder on an email address where
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:32 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ric Moore wrote:
 I once had a pretty large collection of CP/M machines. I had three
 IMSAI's
 ok, now you've done it.
 lets play Name that old computer!
 http://hogranch.com/digital.research/My_office_upstairs_at_734_Lighthouse.jpg
 (my office circa 1979)

Circa  1979? Yesterday, I spoke with a man I worked with in 1978 -
1979. To my astonishment, the customer (DoD) is still using one of the
systems I worked on then. They are paying a company to upgrade the
Software, as they upgrade the Hardware. I am probably one of a few
people who can understand the original Assembly language code written
years ago for that.
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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread MHR
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remember when 1 GB *hard* drives didn't exist!


I still have a few - a 20MB Tulin TL225 that was HUGE when it first
came out, and a couple of Seagates, one is 120MB and one is 512MB.
Oh, and I almost forgot my Priam 780 FULL height 320MB drive, and I
think I may have a couple of Maxtor 140MB drives, too.  I also have a
pile of five or six 4-8GB hard drives.

I should be putting these up for auction on eBay in the not too
distant future - they all work, but they take up a fair amount of
space.  Feel free to look aorund and buy, if you like dinosaurs,
doorstops and other old stuff

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

On Tue, September 2, 2008 14:31, William L. Maltby wrote:

 On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:26 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
 snip

  Can't argue with you :-)  It does seem likely, as 1GB flash drives
 wouldn't
  have been a possibility at that time.  I never owned one at all until
  relatively recently.
 
 I remember when 1 GB *hard* drives didn't exist!

 I swear, I'll never use a word like curmudgeon again! Sheesh!

 Anyway, 5 and 10 MB HDs were the common PC drives back in the 80s and
 90s. 20MB was a *big* one. Seek (average) of  60ms was usual and fast
 ones were less than that.

I got my first PC with a 20MB (Seagate ST-225) drive in 1985, they were
fairly affordable by then.  I don't think 5s were even still available in
normal retail channels (a friend, slightly earlier, took some time looking
for a 5 hoping to save some money over a 10MB that was so inconceivably
big, more than he needed, but couldn't find one for sale).  And that was a
half-height 5.25 20MB drive.

(Today, I couldn't fit two RAW photos from my current DSLR onto that
drive.  And that camera can shoot 5 frames a second and has a 19-shot
internal buffer.  And cost less than half what that first PC cost.)

I'm sure it was in the 80s still when I was using 30MB RLL drives.

Around 1992 I got a 40MB 5.25 full height drive in a new 386-based PC,
and also my first laser printer.

By 1995 I had 3.5 720MB drives in my PCs.  In the earlier 90s I had
purchased two 300MB drives, 5.25 half height (for $1500 each, sigh). 
Also by 1995 I had my first CD drive (not CD-R, though I went to a seminar
at 3M and saw one; an external SCSI device that sold for only $15,000).

So I think you are lumping together too large a span of time to claim disk
sizes were fairly stable over.




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Re: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:44 PM, nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Joseph L. Casale wrote:

  Anyone got any real world info they can share? I need 3.5 SATA II at
 least
  12 drives behind SAS,
  I am not concerned about space and could use multiple 1u chassis if I had
  to.

 What about this?

 http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13045_na/13045_na.html

 The MSA2000sa is a 2U direct attach, external shared storage
 solution designed for small to medium size deployments or
 remote locations. It comes in two models - a basic single
 controller model for low initial cost with the ability to
 upgrade later; and a model with dual controllers standard
 for maximum performance. This solution offers a SAS host
 nterface to accommodate twelve 3.5 inch enterprise class
 SAS drives and archival-class SATA drives. Additional
 capacity can easily be added when needed by attaching up
 to three MSA2000 12 bay drive enclosures. Maximum raw
 capacity ranges from 3.6TB SAS or 12TB SATA in the base
 cabinet, to over 14.4TB SAS or 48TB SATA with the addition
 of the maximum number of drive enclosures.

 This page says it supports SATA II

 http://h18006.www1.hp.com/storage/disk_storage/msa_diskarrays/san_arrays/index.html

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RE: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but it's very interesting. What's the 
difference, apart from the speed  price between SAS  SATAII?

SAS is more enterprise geared, relating to speed and MTBU (probably a load of 
crap on that point)
and SATA is cheaper and does not perform as well, supposedly less reliable to.

SAS usually only come in higher spindle speeds and the 2.5 variety actually 
only have 300 Gb ratings.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-02 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008, William L. Maltby wrote:

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:26 -0700, Scott Silva wrote:
 snip
 
  Can't argue with you :-)  It does seem likely, as 1GB flash drives 
  wouldn't 
  have been a possibility at that time.  I never owned one at all until 
  relatively recently.
  
 I remember when 1 GB *hard* drives didn't exist!

I swear, I'll never use a word like curmudgeon again! Sheesh!

Anyway, 5 and 10 MB HDs were the common PC drives back in the 80s and
90s. 20MB was a *big* one. Seek (average) of  60ms was usual and fast
ones were less than that.

The first HDs that Radio Shack sold for their Model 16s were 8in
8MB units and the primary HD which came with the disk controller
sold for about $4,500.00.  This was replaced with 5.25in 12MB
drives in January 1983 at the same price, about the same time
that the Model 16s were replaced by the Model 6000s (I learned
Xenix on these boxes).  If I remember correctly, Xenix came on 3
8in 1.2MB floppies plus another for the Development System which
had things like the ``vi'' editor and *roff text processing tools.

The Apple Lisa came with a 5MB drive, and also ran Xenix,
although I never could figure out where they would put any data.

The Kaypro-10 was a real bargain in 1984 or so, selling for
$2,500 including a hard drive, around 10MB if I remember.  It ran
only CP/M, but was a reasonable alternative to the IBM PC then.

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Re: [CentOS] SAS/SATA DAS

2008-09-02 Thread John R Pierce
 
 Sorry for hi-jacking this thread, but it's very interesting. What's the 
 difference, apart from the speed  price between SAS  SATAII?
 
 SAS is more enterprise geared, relating to speed and MTBU (probably a load of 
 crap on that point)
 and SATA is cheaper and does not perform as well, supposedly less reliable to.
 
 SAS usually only come in higher spindle speeds and the 2.5 variety actually 
 only have 300 Gb ratings.


SAS supports proper multiplexor technology, and multichannel bonding... a 
typical external SAS connector has FOUR sas channels, and the multiplexor in a 
drive chassis can connect any drive to any channel at any time, while SATA only 
supports simple expanders (1 channel to N drives).  SAS understands NCQ 
natively, while this was a kludge added to SATA (and, from various field 
reports, not very well).


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